CapnPlaty: Guns n' Farkin Roses: Pocket Ninja: And I loathe, absolutely loathe, Carl.

If they kill of Carl, it will be the highest rated episode ever. I haven't met a single person who likes that little douche.

Carl = Dawn Summers of the zombie apocalypse.

No way. Dawn at least at the decency to sprout breasts in her second season.

/aisle seat please

Outrageous Muff: stebain:
How else is he to assure that YOU hate it too? DUH!?!?

I also want some kind of religious connection, but nothing about dealing with loss and it's effect on one's faith, but like in Boondock Saints where it useless plot item that makes me feel like I'm learning. I also want more boobs, and maybe some chicks in short skirts. Also, can a brother get an AR-15 with a rocket launcher is that too much to ask?

Starring???....????

jasimo: Coupla things:
1) There are tens of thousands of abandoned farms, beach houses, mountain retreats, etc. yet they cling to this one farm like it's the last place on earth
2) Why was that zombie strong enough to rip open whathisname's stomach with his fingers?
3) There are tens of thousands of abandoned RVs. Why are they using that old one?
4) Everyone is incredibly annoying and all they ever do is biatch at each other.
5) Why do dozens of zombies all mill around certain locations for no good reason, then move/attack only when it provides a convenient plot point?

Ok, I'll play.

1) Because that was Hershel's family home. They were attached to it and felt safe there even if it wasn't the best choice.

2) Dude was soft, man. Soft.

3) See #1, although I agree with you. Not only was it constantly breaking down, it probably sucked down some serious gas. Most likely, they just never came across one that wasn't jammed in abandoned traffic or filled with corpses.

4) Agreed.

5) I'll guess there's some sort of herding instinct at play. They'll move en masse when something piques their interest. The solo Walkers are maybe ones that have been separated from groups by chance or hunger, or maybe just haven't found a herd of their own yet (so sad).

redmid17: jasimo: indarwinsshadow: chewielouie: In before the people who hate the show but continue to watch it chime in.

It reminds me of Heroes. It started great, lots of action, nice tight editing...good dialogue. Now it's just like every other soap opera on television. The stories are weak. Plot thin and contrived and it's short on the main characters. The Zombies. Occasionally a couple will pop up, but for the most part. I've written the show off. I like AMC (Breaking Bad is f*cking brilliant. I'll never forget this years ending with half of Gus's head blown off), but they need to ditch the writers and bring in some action. Move the plot forward. Get off the farm. Tell us what that government scientist whispered to Rick at the end of Season 1.

You asshole! Some of us haven't seen all of Breaking Bad's season 4 yet. Don't give away spoilers for fark's sake.

You're biatching about spoilers to a show whose season ended back in October?

Yeah, I was late to the game. Just finished watching season three on Netflix, season 4 isn't yet available.

stebain: Outrageous Muff: stebain:
How else is he to assure that YOU hate it too? DUH!?!?

I also want some kind of religious connection, but nothing about dealing with loss and it's effect on one's faith, but like in Boondock Saints where it useless plot item that makes me feel like I'm learning. I also want more boobs, and maybe some chicks in short skirts. Also, can a brother get an AR-15 with a rocket launcher is that too much to ask?

Starring???....????

Willem Dafoe.

Aw, c'mon! You KNOW you'd love to see Willem all Platoon'ed out with a machete and claw hammer running some guerilla tactics on those zombie bastards.

mooseyfate: Just like the show.

/how are people still not getting this?

In their minds, the conversation parts are all "blah blah blah halb" and the action scenes are full color renditions of imaginary CGI zombies on display like Boobs-A-Poppin' from back in the day. They even have zombies in the background in beavershot poses (even dudes, since it's all just hanging flesh) and stapled on pasties doing some slow version of a bump-n-grind. Probably on T-Dawg after he fired the rocket from the Trans Am and crashed the Apache into the zombie crowd he corralled into a thimble.

T.M.S.: What are these "happy ending" zombie movies you describe?


The Notebook.

T.M.S.: But, and correct me if I am wrong, you seem to be saying TWD is unique in the genre because it is about human survivor looking for a safe place only to have it ruined due to human stupidity and the break down of society.

To be honest I cannot think of a single major example of Zombie fiction that is not about that.

What are these "happy ending" zombie movies you describe? And how are they different from TWD?

The only one I can think of is Shawn of the Dead.

Of all the zombie movies that attempted to show the scope of the end of the world and weren't just a gore horror movie(Dawn of the Dead), most have ended in some kind of "happy ending" Either they find a cure, or like in 28 Days Later, the characters find a peaceful place to leave where it's assumed they don't have to worry about the zombies again. Just like in most survival movies, it's always Mad Max-esqe or Red Dawn-esqe. Rarely do you get a logical look at what happens when society breaks down, and when you do, you there isn't time to get into the emotional toll that takes on normal people(End of Children of Men). Hollywood normally decides to express that visually (The Book of Eli). Correct me if I'm wrong, but outside of The Walking Dead comic, there hasn't been a movie or TV show that deals with the emotional effects of fall of society. Jerico tried to do that, but it end up being a gun-nuts wet dream by the end.

jasimo: Yeah, I was late to the game. Just finished watching season three on Netflix, season 4 isn't yet available.

The whole season is good. Don't sweat knowing that one point.

mooseyfate: Mentat: MagSeven: I just assumed that they had been keeping up the target practice, but there was no need to show that every single episode. Also with Glen, I don't think he was "killing" the Walkers, but really just knocking them down with the force of the shotgun.

Glenn is the Fark Survivor. He's supposed to represent the Average Guy. I can't even hit a moving target with a bow and arrow in Skyrim. Even with weeks of target practice (and considering their ammo situation, that's a stretch), it's unlikely he would hit anything in that situation. They even established that earlier in the season when Shane was taunting Andrea when she was trying to hit a moving target. He was trying to get the point across to her that a real combat situation was nothing like hitting a stationary bottle. But then again, this is also the show where Ninja Carl can get off a headshot against an oncoming walker even though he had no line of sight.

In what world did he not have a line of sight? Rick wasn't standing directly between Carl and Shane. The camera shot of Zombie Shane getting his head blown off made that obvious. Could Carl have accidentally shot Rick? Absolutely. Doesn't mean he curved the bullet around him Wanted style.

Maybe Rick carries a bible making him bullet proof.
/Ahh the book of Eli and the endless quiver.

jasimo: Coupla things:
1) There are tens of thousands of abandoned farms, beach houses, mountain retreats, etc. yet they cling to this one farm like it's the last place on earth
2) Why was that zombie strong enough to rip open whathisname's stomach with his fingers?
3) There are tens of thousands of abandoned RVs. Why are they using that old one?
4) Everyone is incredibly annoying and all they ever do is biatch at each other.
5) Why do dozens of zombies all mill around certain locations for no good reason, then move/attack only when it provides a convenient plot point?

1. Because it was Hershel's farm. He wanted to stay there. You want the doctor, you stay at the farm.
2. Superhumanly strong maybe? Or maybe Dale ate some bad chili. Does it really matter?
3. Because it was Dale's. He drove it, maintained it, and knew how to maintain it.
4. Welcome to life, Wyatt. Or FARK.
5. Because the characters can't seem to stop making noise at inconvenient times. Watch the first three minutes of the finale again.

mooseyfate: stebain: Outrageous Muff: stebain:
How else is he to assure that YOU hate it too? DUH!?!?

I also want some kind of religious connection, but nothing about dealing with loss and it's effect on one's faith, but like in Boondock Saints where it useless plot item that makes me feel like I'm learning. I also want more boobs, and maybe some chicks in short skirts. Also, can a brother get an AR-15 with a rocket launcher is that too much to ask?

Starring???....????

Willem Dafoe

Look again, brother...

Outrageous Muff: Mentat: I think this needs to be the Boobies in every TWD thread:

B..b..b...but that means I have to think beyond OMG Zombies! I want wall to wall zombie killing, ninjas coming down the sky raining glorious death on walkers, miniguns and chain saw rocket launchers! I want it to be a Mad Max survival wasteland, but without any of the emotional crap that makes the characters seem like real people and not programmed zombie-killing machines. I want to spend one hour a week beating it to hot broads with big tits who carry a shotgun.

Zombies or no the characters/writing on the show SUUUCK. If the cast and dialogue was good then people wouldn't complain about the lack of action. The show would have benefited greatly from more Lennie James/Michael Rooker and less T-Dog/Lori/etc.

Iceberg659: Lennie James/Michael Rooker and less T-Dog/

less T-Dog? What, you gonna put a negative space where his character should be?

MagSeven: I read the 28 days later comic. I'm not sure if it's canon (I assume it isn't) but it's bleak.

SPOILERS
Jim is tried and executed for killing that soldier at the end of the first movie, Hannah is placed in social services, and Selena leads an expedition into infected territory. By the end of the series, the infection has reached Paris.

The comic was an attempt by the writers to do make trio of movies. If you watch the original DVD release of 28 Days Later at the last minute they rewrote the end of movie in the hopes of expanding the story. They also shot two endings where Jim dies from his wounds after getting the girls to safety. I love the original movie, but there were lots of plot holes that would have made it impossible to make a trilogy out of it. 28 Weeks Later is an abortion of a movie.

Outrageous Muff: T.M.S.: But, and correct me if I am wrong, you seem to be saying TWD is unique in the genre because it is about human survivor looking for a safe place only to have it ruined due to human stupidity and the break down of society.

To be honest I cannot think of a single major example of Zombie fiction that is not about that.

What are these "happy ending" zombie movies you describe? And how are they different from TWD?

The only one I can think of is Shawn of the Dead.

Of all the zombie movies that attempted to show the scope of the end of the world and weren't just a gore horror movie(Dawn of the Dead), most have ended in some kind of "happy ending" Either they find a cure, or like in 28 Days Later, the characters find a peaceful place to leave where it's assumed they don't have to worry about the zombies again. Just like in most survival movies, it's always Mad Max-esqe or Red Dawn-esqe. Rarely do you get a logical look at what happens when society breaks down, and when you do, you there isn't time to get into the emotional toll that takes on normal people(End of Children of Men). Hollywood normally decides to express that visually (The Book of Eli). Correct me if I'm wrong, but outside of The Walking Dead comic, there hasn't been a movie or TV show that deals with the emotional effects of fall of society. Jerico tried to do that, but it end up being a gun-nuts wet dream by the end.

All of that right there. My main complaint about 99% of the zombie genre is that it treats itself like a farking joke. Sometimes that's fun (Shaun of the Dead, parts of the Dawn of the Dead remake). Most of the time it's downright shiatty (almost everything George Romero has attached his name to). But I definitely enjoy seeing a more human side to the genre, where you actually WANT some of the characters survive instead of eagerly waiting to see which farkmook exaggerated archetype is going to get eviscerated next.

Uh, T-Dawg has been cast for quite sometime.

stebain: mooseyfate: stebain: Outrageous Muff: stebain:
How else is he to assure that YOU hate it too? DUH!?!?

I also want some kind of religious connection, but nothing about dealing with loss and it's effect on one's faith, but like in Boondock Saints where it useless plot item that makes me feel like I'm learning. I also want more boobs, and maybe some chicks in short skirts. Also, can a brother get an AR-15 with a rocket launcher is that too much to ask?

Starring???....????

Willem Dafoe

Look again, brother...

I know, sir, I was making a joke.

mooseyfate: I know, sir, I was making a joke.

Damn. I hoped I was giving you a sweet, sweet epiphany.

Outrageous Muff: MagSeven: I read the 28 days later comic. I'm not sure if it's canon (I assume it isn't) but it's bleak.

SPOILERS
Jim is tried and executed for killing that soldier at the end of the first movie, Hannah is placed in social services, and Selena leads an expedition into infected territory. By the end of the series, the infection has reached Paris.

The comic was an attempt by the writers to do make trio of movies. If you watch the original DVD release of 28 Days Later at the last minute they rewrote the end of movie in the hopes of expanding the story. They also shot two endings where Jim dies from his wounds after getting the girls to safety. I love the original movie, but there were lots of plot holes that would have made it impossible to make a trilogy out of it. 28 Weeks Later is an abortion of a movie.

I love how Jim is replaced in the final scene with the jets flying over by a rooster.

oh jesus christ Mad Men is a much more superior show to Walking Dead (a show I really enjoy).

Must be nice writing a show where you can kill off a character at any second, if it doesn't suit the direction you want to take the show in.

Oh we're lost in the woods, let's just drop a giant prison a 1/4 of a mile away.

We need a season finale, let's materialize 600 zombies to ensure everyone has to leave.

If Mad Men needs a cheap device, at least they usually incorporate a hot chick.



//love both shows, but giving Walking Dead all this heaping praise in the face of really obvious plot issues is annoying.

stebain: T.M.S.: What are these "happy ending" zombie movies you describe?


The Notebook.

Man that movie would be WAAAYYY more tolerable if it had zombies.



Anywho back to the subject at hand. Never read the comics, but Michonne's reveal was pretty badass, chained up zombies n all. I'll be honest though, I loved the episode but I was sincerely hoping a few more main characters would be taken out this season. Shane and Dale were great starts, even though Shane still could have been a good plot device to hold on to his death was awesome none-the-less. Lets face it though, this show could do with some trimming of the fat. Carol needs to go, she's just taking up space especially now that Sophia's story is done. I vote she gets zombiefied and then finds a zombie husband like her old husband who beats the shiat out of her in the afterlife too. She's that annoying that I wish domestic violence on her alive or zombiefied.

Andrea. Man did I kind of wish she'd be gone too. Pick a team biatch. First you're all about Shane. Leaving with Shane, taking his side with the whole prisoner debacle, etc, etc. Then, out of nowhere, you're all "no Shane's just nuts we should do what Dale wants." Regardless of what stance you take, you're annoying. While she was running through the woods, and stopping like every 30 feet(seriously does she not get there's a big horde of zombies behind her?), I was sitting there screaming for one of those deadites to just take a chunk out. Alas my desires were not to become reality.

Herschel, when did your balls drop there bud? You went from pussy footing around the end of the world, to Farmer Badass with your 500 round pump action shotgun. Even became the self-sacrificing type by telling Rick to go get safety while he stays behind to link up with the group. You can live.... for now.

T-Dawg, I forgot you existed until the last couple episodes. Somehow you have outlived every black man in any horror story ever recorded to any medium. Kudos to you for that, but you survived by not having more than 20 minutes of screen time across this entire season. Now that black hooded ninja biatch is here, maybe you'll get lucky since your d-bag of a wife decided committing suicide with Jenner was the best plan(seriously, that's love right there. fark you baby you want to live, but I don't love you THAT much.). Your plan is TERRIBLE by the way. "Zombies everywhere in the country side, we should head east! Where it was more densely populated and probably CRAWLING with even more walkers!" That's why nobody takes you seriously and would rather risk their lives to save Carl than listen to you. If you didn't have obvious plot devices requiring someone of your... *ahem* photo negativity(whitey can't get with Michonne, not yet) then you'd be as expendable as Carol.

Carl, you've outlived your usefulness. At this point you're more of a burden than someone worth sticking your neck out for. Frankly, I would be surprised if someone just offs you for the sake of the groups safety. That will be your punishment for perpetually endangering the group with your stupidity. What part of zombies want to eat you do you still fail to comprehend?

Lori, find a goddamn pharmacy and get the medication you so obviously had before the zombie apocalypse. You seriously could not be more bi-polar if you tried Lady MacBeth. I don't care if you gave Rick that speech in the hopes he would off Shane, or if you just wanted Shane to take out Rick so you could go back to guilt-freely sucking that bald mother farker off. Regardless of your motivation I hope you die a horrible, terrible, agonizing, slow, painful, gory death and we get to enjoy every second of it. You don't deserve the luxury of having someone end your suffering, because you existing makes me(the viewer) suffer.

Daryl, you deserve your own show. One where you split off from the group, fit your bike with some wheel spikes(think Scythed Chariot (new window), and drive around the country side ridding the world of zombies one shambling corpse at a time. You sir, are the best character on this show.

Maggie and Glenn, you're both going to bite the dust in some cheesy romantic way. Kissing each other while the zombies crawl towards you or some crap. One way or another though, you're not long for this world. Shame too, I actually like Glenn. Though, I liked him better in season 1.


Am I also the only one who finds it kind of funny that the first half of the season was Darabont's, while the second half was the new writers? Don't get me wrong, Darabont's original idea(that got REJECTED) was awesome. I just find it hysterical that so many people blame this season sucking on Darabont being canned, yet the best episodes of the season were the ones that came after he left.

/can't wait for Season 3. fall cannot come fast enough.

NeoCortex42: noheadphones:

If Mad Men needs a cheap device, at least they usually incorporate a hot chick.


And a lawnmower. Now that was an unexpected scene.

I forgot about that--Very Walking Dead-ish actually!

MagSeven: NeoCortex42: noheadphones:

If Mad Men needs a cheap device, at least they usually incorporate a hot chick.


And a lawnmower. Now that was an unexpected scene.

Didn't you just make a pretty valid point about spoilers?

Difference there is the latest season of Mad Men has been on Netflix instant for a while.

Strategeryz0r: Now that black hooded ninja biatch is here, maybe you'll get lucky since your d-bag of a wife decided committing suicide with Jenner was the best plan(seriously, that's love right there. fark you baby you want to live, but I don't love you THAT much.).

Jacqui was not T-Dog's wife.

Outrageous Muff:

Of all the zombie movies that attempted to show the scope of the end of the world and weren't just a gore horror movie(Dawn of the Dead), most have ended in some kind of "happy ending" Either they find a cure, or like in 28 Days Later, the characters find a peaceful place to leave where it's assumed they don't have to worry about the zombies again.

Honestly, which zombie movies are you speaking of that have happy endings?

Strategeryz0r: Daryl, you deserve your own show. One where you split off from the group, fit your bike with some wheel spikes(think Scythed Chariot (new window), and drive around the country side ridding the world of zombies one shambling corpse at a time. You sir, are the best character on this show.
Maybe a variety show or a boy band type show like Big Time Rush.

Maggie and Glenn, you're both going to bite the dust in some cheesy romantic way. Kissing each other while the zombies crawl towards you or some crap. One way or another though, you're not long for this world. Shame too, I actually like Glenn. Though, I liked him better in season 1.

He did evolve this show. People talk about Rick and his balls descending, I think Glenn had that type of show as well. The whole "Get off the farm" yelling wasn't just "drive this truck off the farm" but was telling Maggie, in a way, to get the fu over it and fast. Plus the I love you scene wasn't mushy or timid, like he had been before.

noheadphones: oh jesus christ Mad Men is a much more superior show to Walking Dead (a show I really enjoy).

Must be nice writing a show where you can kill off a character at any second, if it doesn't suit the direction you want to take the show in.

Oh we're lost in the woods, let's just drop a giant prison a 1/4 of a mile away.

We need a season finale, let's materialize 600 zombies to ensure everyone has to leave.

If Mad Men needs a cheap device, at least they usually incorporate a hot chick.



//love both shows, but giving Walking Dead all this heaping praise in the face of really obvious plot issues is annoying.

The show is just following it's source material. When the survivors left their initial camp outside Atlanta, they ended up at the farm. There was another failed attempt at "settling in" that happened before the events at the farm. After the walkers invade the farm, the Rick is dealing with a lot of distress over two failed attempts at fortifying a position of safety for the group. Just when they think things might work out, things get worse (any of this sounding familiar?). So as they're wandering, trying to find a place that actually offers protection, not just the illusion of it, they stumble upon a prison. They move in and a LOT of internal drama occurs. Seems this show is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, because it's staying pretty damn close to the spirit of the comics so far. Maybe their execution could use some tweaking here and there, but I'd say they're doing a pretty solid job of nailing the bullet points from the comics that they intended to.

/just my opinion
//I'd be insane if I insisted everyone liked what I like

Mentat: In her defense, the actress said that they filmed all of her scenes in one day, so she spent about 12 hours running from zombies. In the scenes where she collapses from exhaustion, she's actually exhausted. As for the rest though, kudos, but no one can kill Ninja Carl.

I could see that actually. I'll let it slide..... this time.

Ninja Carl on the other hand. Goddamn man, how many times can they lose track of that farking kid. First you get shot, then you're just nosing around every damn thing in sight, then you steal Daryl's gun(yea lets steal the gun that belongs to the groups biggest badass. He'll totally appreciate that), and then you go taunt a walker! Kid, be glad you're white. I'm 90% certain there are actual horror film rules that state any non-white can only cheat death so many times before the show/film is legally obligated to kill you. T-Dawg avoided this by only being on screen for 30 seconds per episode.

stebain: Jacqui was not T-Dog's wife.

Really? I thought she was, my mistake then. They put so much emphasis on him being torn up over her staying that I just naturally assumed there was a romantic link. I guess, in the end, they still had one commonality that made him want her to stay. I mean the show is rather monochromatic.

Speaking of that one commonality. Having never read the comics I had no idea Michonne was black until I saw the actress they picked to play her. I naturally assumed we had another asian since she's got the katana. I figured, if she was black, she would battle the zombie hordes with her insane ass implants like some sort of post-apocalyptic Nicki Minaj. Stereotypes broken!

mooseyfate: noheadphones: oh jesus christ Mad Men is a much more superior show to Walking Dead (a show I really enjoy).

Must be nice writing a show where you can kill off a character at any second, if it doesn't suit the direction you want to take the show in.

Oh we're lost in the woods, let's just drop a giant prison a 1/4 of a mile away.

We need a season finale, let's materialize 600 zombies to ensure everyone has to leave.

If Mad Men needs a cheap device, at least they usually incorporate a hot chick.



//love both shows, but giving Walking Dead all this heaping praise in the face of really obvious plot issues is annoying.

The show is just following it's source material. When the survivors left their initial camp outside Atlanta, they ended up at the farm. There was another failed attempt at "settling in" that happened before the events at the farm. After the walkers invade the farm, the Rick is dealing with a lot of distress over two failed attempts at fortifying a position of safety for the group. Just when they think things might work out, things get worse (any of this sounding familiar?). So as they're wandering, trying to find a place that actually offers protection, not just the illusion of it, they stumble upon a prison. They move in and a LOT of internal drama occurs. Seems this show is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, because it's staying pretty damn close to the spirit of the comics so far. Maybe their execution could use some tweaking here and there, but I'd say they're doing a pretty solid job of nailing the bullet points from the comics that they intended to.

/just my opinion
//I'd be insane if I insisted everyone liked what I like

THANK YOU! Why can't people just take the show for what it is and just enjoy it. If you don't, then STFU and GTFO and let the fans that enjoy the show have their fun.

discgolfguru: indarwinsshadow: Get off the farm.

They just did.

indarwinsshadow: Tell us what that government scientist whispered to Rick at the end of Season 1.

I'm pretty sure that's apparent now, as well.

"Your fly's open."

NeoCortex42: mooseyfate:
The show is just following it's source material. When the survivors left their initial camp outside Atlanta, they ended up at the farm. There was another failed attempt at "settling in" that happened before the events at the farm. After the walkers invade the farm, the Rick is dealing with a lot of distress over two failed attempts at fortifying a position of safety for the group. Just when they think things might work out, things get worse (any of this sounding familiar?). So as they're wandering, trying to find a place that actually offers protection, not just the illusion of it, they stumble upon a prison. They move in and a LOT of internal drama occurs. Seems this show is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, because it's staying pretty damn close to the spirit of the comics so far. Maybe their execution could use some tweaking here and there, but I'd say they're doing a pretty solid job of nailing the bullet points from the comics that they intended to.

/just my opinion
//I'd be insane if I insisted everyone liked what I like

I really think the Sophia plot of the first half of the season hurt the show way too much. That should have taken two episodes at most. It reminds me of the first half of Lost's third season with the cages: The plot ground to a halt and a lot of fans decided to abandon ship or simply got really into bashing the show whenever they had the chance.

Say what you will about the Sophia plot, but the parts involving Daryl were compelling, Shane finally setting into motion the events that would lead to his inevitable death, and the final moments of the barn scene where all pretty excellent for setting the tone of the second half of the season. The arc could have been shorter, but I could tell they really wanted to save the prison for season 3.

stebain:
Maggie and Glenn, you're both going to bite the dust in some cheesy romantic way. Kissing each other while the zombies crawl towards you or some crap. One way or another though, you're not long for this world. Shame too, I actually like Glenn. Though, I liked him better in season 1.

He did evolve this show. People talk about Rick and his balls descending, I think Glenn had that type of show as well. The whole "Get off the farm" yelling wasn't just "drive this truck off the farm" but was telling Maggie, in a way, to get the fu over it and fast. Plus the I love you scene wasn't mushy or timid, like he had been before.

Oh I'm not saying he didn't evolve. He was just a more enjoyable character to me in the first season. He's gone from almost comic relief(something this show sorely needs, it takes itself TOO seriously sometimes), to what he is now(which is borderline whiny biatch at times). I still contend that the love story is way too forced. They're like the Bugatti Veyron of romance. From havin a quickie in town to "I love you sooooo much!" in less than 3.4 episodes. Either Glenn's cock is smeared in chocolate and smells like fresh roses, or they just REALLY wanted to shoehorn that one in there.

Plus he still needs to grow a pair. Even after Herschel gives him the watch and basically gives him carte blanche permission to bone his daughter in his house, Glenn's still all "I can't share a bed with you cuz your daddy scares me!" Come on man, really? The one issue you were worried about has literally become a non-issue. He couldn't be any more of a non-issue. Yet you're still scared of that?

Screaming at Maggie to ditch the farm was probably the most sensible thing anybody has said across the entire season though. So he does have that going for him.

Mr.Poops: THANK YOU! Why can't people just take the show for what it is and just enjoy it. If you don't, then STFU and GTFO and let the fans that enjoy the show have their fun.



/Me?
//I don't like the show, but I don't rag on it _much.
///But, I can definitely understand all the disappointment.

Strategeryz0r:Plus he still needs to grow a pair. Even after Herschel gives him the watch and basically gives him carte blanche permission to bone his daughter in his house, Glenn's still all "I can't share a bed with you cuz your daddy scares me!" Come on man, really? The one issue you were worried about has literally become a non-issue. He couldn't be any more of a non-issue. Yet you're still scared of that?

Interesting. I read that as not wanting to form any kind of close emotional bond with her because he didn't want to have to worry about her dying all the time. I also figured he knew he wasn't strong enough mentally to deal with her getting killed in the future. Basically, he didn't want to have anything to lose - even crazy monkey sex with the best -looking woman in Postapocalyptia.

Have none of these people ever heard of anti personnel devices?With explosives laying around and nails,ect.with a basic bit of knowhow not that hard to rig.