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(Huffington Post)   John McCain says Republicans need to "get off" the issue of birth control and "respect the right of women to make choices." If only this guy would run for President, or something   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 101
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2012-03-19 08:20:03 AM
Why are the Democrats always the voice of reason?

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2012-03-19 08:35:22 AM
And get back to the important things like nuking Iran
 
2012-03-19 08:35:48 AM
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2012-03-19 08:37:20 AM
"McCain's staunch opposition to the contraception measure might be surprising to some, considering that he recently voted for Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt's similar amendment, calling for employers to deny contraception coverage to women for religious or moral reasons."

You can say that McCain can finally get the message, after his fingers get banged in the car door half a dozen times. The party zealots don't. That doesn't mean McCain won't go along with the zealots, if he thinks it's the expedient course.
 
2012-03-19 08:37:36 AM
Congratulations to Senator John McCain for finding his meds.
 
2012-03-19 08:41:35 AM
Shut up, old man. You're the reason Palin didn't win! is how I imagine the derp squad's response.
 
2012-03-19 08:42:44 AM
John McCain says Republicans need to "get off" the issue of birth control because it's going to kill them in November and pretend to "respect the right of women to make choices."

Fixed for accuracy.
 
2012-03-19 08:45:29 AM
Another crazy old man who should be one of the first colonists with Newt establishing a moon base. Conservatia it shall be called. No women. Just stupid old men grumbling about everything and shining derplight in every crater on the moon. Just one important stipulation. No spacesuits! None. Nada. Nyet! Oh.... and no return module either!
 
2012-03-19 08:46:09 AM
'00 maverick McCain shows up occasionally to remind us all what could have been. Then, bitter '08 McCain appears shortly after, demanding that we start new wars and intensify old ones.
 
2012-03-19 08:46:29 AM
McCain run for president? Nah. He'd probably do something stupid, like pick a retard running mate.
 
2012-03-19 08:49:00 AM
 
2012-03-19 08:53:53 AM

Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)


So, according to TFA, The Republican Party, who perfected attack politics in the internet age, is now complaining because the shoe is on the other foot.

i.e., they can dish it out, but they can't take it.

With each passing day, these guys remind me of the schoolyard bullies that pick on kids, then go whining to the principal when one of those kids gives them a pop on the lip.
 
2012-03-19 08:54:33 AM
So, how long until he issues a "clarification" of his position that basically reverses what he just said? That seems to be his SOP.

This guy sucks. Period.
 
2012-03-19 08:56:52 AM
... says the man who voted last week for the Blunt Amendment.
 
2012-03-19 08:58:51 AM
McCain suddenly found to be incompetant and shuffled off to a private care facility in 3 2 1...
 
2012-03-19 09:02:53 AM
Average age of Americans: about 36 years old.
Average age of American congressperson: 57 years old.

Why do we elect rich old people?
 
2012-03-19 09:04:06 AM
Republicans need to "get off"

And how!
 
2012-03-19 09:09:05 AM

stoli n coke: Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)

So, according to TFA, The Republican Party, who perfected attack politics in the internet age, is now complaining because the shoe is on the other foot.

i.e., they can dish it out, but they can't take it.

With each passing day, these guys remind me of the schoolyard bullies that pick on kids, then go whining to the principal when one of those kids gives them a pop on the lip.


The success of such tactics has a lot more to do with perception than execution.

The GOP was riding high after 9/11, but now there has been a complete role reversal. Nobody really likes the Democrats, but the Republicans look like complete lunatics. Even if they're obviously being set up (e.g. adding temporary visas to a domestic violence bill), the more they take the bait, the more they play into the narrative.
 
2012-03-19 09:11:22 AM

jrw8778: Average age of Americans: about 36 years old.
Average age of American congressperson: 57 years old.

Why do we elect rich old people?


What's the average age of the voter?
Average age of all Americans, particularly those under 18 or those who don't vote, is irrelevant compared to average age of Congressmen.
 
2012-03-19 09:12:13 AM

Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)


They are and they aren't. The Democrats certainly would like the Republicans to keep putting their feet in their mouth, but no one has tricked Rick Santorum in persisting in coming up with new ways to take us back to the 1950s. No one has tricked all of these Republican state legislators into proposing that we rape pregnant women and treat them like cattle. Something about Santorum's candidacy has brought out all the reactionary woman-hating loonies, and the Democrats can't take credit for that.
 
2012-03-19 09:13:46 AM

jrw8778: Why do we elect rich old people?


Politicking takes money, effort, and time eliminating poor old people (no money) and rich young people (either no work ethic or no time because they're busy doing whatever it is that makes them rich)
 
2012-03-19 09:15:32 AM

jrw8778: Average age of Americans: about 36 years old.
Average age of American congressperson: 57 years old.

Why do we elect rich old people?


Because they've spent the time necessary to prove themselves to be effective leaders through business success and public service ventures. Don't you want our best, brightest, and most successful people serving in the leadership?
 
2012-03-19 09:16:52 AM
Because if you don't pander to racism, gun control and religion there really is no reason for anyone making less than $250k to vote for the GOP.
 
2012-03-19 09:18:10 AM

Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)


What some may call "getting played", others may call "being an asshole, and paying for it eventually".
 
2012-03-19 09:18:18 AM

Lost Thought 00: Don't you want our best, brightest, and most successful people serving in the leadership?


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2012-03-19 09:19:04 AM

indylaw: Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)

They are and they aren't. The Democrats certainly would like the Republicans to keep putting their feet in their mouth, but no one has tricked Rick Santorum in persisting in coming up with new ways to take us back to the 1950s. No one has tricked all of these Republican state legislators into proposing that we rape pregnant women and treat them like cattle. Something about Santorum's candidacy has brought out all the reactionary woman-hating loonies, and the Democrats can't take credit for that.


They, wisely, are saying very little. The more the GOP wages the war on women, the more campaign ads write themselves for the democrats.

If the rest of the year goes like this, it will be an easy win for them in November.
 
2012-03-19 09:19:11 AM

Lost Thought 00: jrw8778: Average age of Americans: about 36 years old.
Average age of American congressperson: 57 years old.

Why do we elect rich old people?

Because they've spent the time necessary to prove themselves to be effective leaders through business success and public service ventures. Don't you want our best, brightest, and most successful people serving in the leadership?


I tried to make it through your whole post without laughing, but failed. Thanks for starting my morning with a chuckle.
 
2012-03-19 09:20:10 AM
If he got nominated, he would have his strings pulled by the GOP insiders and veer away from what got him nominated in the 1st place, which arguably could have cost him the election. He'd probably pick a tard for a running mate to insure he snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
2012-03-19 09:23:34 AM
Too late, John. You fizzled out fully four years ago, and you've been humiliating yourself for the past decade. Just retire and shut up while some people still think you have dignity.

I might agree with his words, but I have no illusions that he actually believes them with any conviction.
 
2012-03-19 09:33:49 AM

Lost Thought 00: Because they've spent the time necessary to prove themselves to be effective leaders through business success and public service ventures. Don't you want our best, brightest, and most successful people serving in the leadership?


Pull the other one!
 
2012-03-19 09:35:50 AM
He has become the Bob Dole of the Vietnam generation: someone who thinks
that they 'deserve' the nomination due to their time in service.

He gave up his principles after being trounced by the derp brigade in '00 and
decided to join them rather than continue to fight them. That wipes out any
respect he might have accrued in my book.
 
2012-03-19 09:36:10 AM

Dr.Zom: John McCain says Republicans need to "get off" the issue of birth control because it's going to kill them in November and pretend to "respect the right of women to make choices."

Fixed for accuracy.


America, fark YEAH!

No, really: That's the way this shiat is SUPPOSED to work.
 
2012-03-19 09:36:29 AM

Antimatter: indylaw: Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)

They are and they aren't. The Democrats certainly would like the Republicans to keep putting their feet in their mouth, but no one has tricked Rick Santorum in persisting in coming up with new ways to take us back to the 1950s. No one has tricked all of these Republican state legislators into proposing that we rape pregnant women and treat them like cattle. Something about Santorum's candidacy has brought out all the reactionary woman-hating loonies, and the Democrats can't take credit for that.

They, wisely, are saying very little. The more the GOP wages the war on women, the more campaign ads write themselves for the democrats.

If the rest of the year goes like this, it will be an easy win for them in November.


I really don't want people to start thinking that, to be honest. Because thinking an easy win against batsh*t crazy politicians leads to less people actually voting on election day. The loonies on the Republican side are already whipped into a massive frenzy of fear, insecurity, and intolerance. And they will vote. Misogynists will vote, racists will vote, people who are scared of the strawman of death panels will vote, the NRA is trying to instill fear into their members about the Dems taking guns away and you know they'll vote, pro-lifers will vote, and religious moral absolutists will vote. And almost all of them will be voting for the Republican. And there are a surprising amount of all of them, as these past few months have shown.

Obama is a pretty good centrist leader. He could stand to improve in several important ways, but overall he is the best candidate for the job who is currently running. A win for him will come from people being very concerned about what life would be like under a Romney or Santorum presidency, and if people get it in their heads that either of those is very likely to happen, they might be less inclined to actually spend a few hours of their life on election day voicing their opinion. The way I see it, and I may very well be wrong, is that people thinking it will be an easy win will make it either a loss or a smaller margin of victory for a just-right-of-center Democrat like Obama.
 
2012-03-19 09:37:28 AM
That's nice, Grandpa... I'm glad you had a moment of clarity in between bouts of screaming about invading Syria and bombing Iran.

Tel
 
2012-03-19 09:38:42 AM

Kibbler: That doesn't mean McCain won't go along with the zealots, if he thinks it's the expedient course.


You just described his 2008 campaign. John McCain v.2000 would have been a good president. McCain v.2008 sold out to the nutjobs because he had to in order to be nominated. The man is a perfect example of why the GOP is hopeless.
 
2012-03-19 09:42:38 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: You just described his 2008 campaign. John McCain v.2000 would have been a good president. McCain v.2008 sold out to the nutjobs because he had to in order to be nominated. The man is a perfect example of why the GOP is hopeless.


This. He went the Bob Dole route and let them put a ring in his nose and RNC lead him around. When he caved on the torture issue, it was obvious the man had zero integrity.
 
2012-03-19 09:44:23 AM

stoli n coke: Starving Zimbabwe Trillionaire: I don't think McCain knows the Republicans are being played. (new window)

So, according to TFA, The Republican Party, who perfected attack politics in the internet age, is now complaining because the shoe is on the other foot.

i.e., they can dish it out, but they can't take it.

With each passing day, these guys remind me of the schoolyard bullies that pick on kids, then go whining to the principal when one of those kids gives them a pop on the lip.


GOP: 'How dare you defend yourselves from our attacks! I'M TELLING!!!!'
 
2012-03-19 09:44:33 AM
McCain = Horsesh*t. That's all.
 
2012-03-19 09:50:21 AM
The party elders are going to start trying to turn the Titanic away from the contraception iceberg. If the economy takes a dive, they might be successful.
 
2012-03-19 09:54:57 AM
He wants us to bomb Syria and Iran and everyone else we don't like.
 
2012-03-19 10:02:02 AM
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2012-03-19 10:06:39 AM
MODERATOR: Tonight's topic of debate is "Should presidential candidates be married to mob bosses' daughers.

MCCAIN: Coont!

[crickets]
 
2012-03-19 10:09:52 AM
I've always thought it would help conservatives if they could "get off."
 
2012-03-19 10:11:34 AM

DrippinBalls: McCain = Horsesh*t. That's all.


That sums it up nicely.
 
2012-03-19 10:12:05 AM
It's on his bucket list.
 
2012-03-19 10:12:27 AM
I am so tired of seeing my fellow female-Americans being so sexist against our nation's poor, innocent, virginal people of faith! I mean, who are we to decide how they use the most sacred thing of all, their money?
 
2012-03-19 10:17:18 AM
John McCain circa 2000 would have been a great president. Ya know - the truly moderate guy who spoke out against the "agents of intolerance" on the far right and the far left. John McCain circa 2008 was so scared of losing again that he sold out to the far right and lost his credibility.
 
2012-03-19 10:24:57 AM

velvet_fog: John McCain circa 2000 would have been a great president. Ya know - the truly moderate guy who spoke out against the "agents of intolerance" on the far right and the far left. John McCain circa 2008 was so scared of losing again that he sold out to the far right and lost his credibility.


This.

I tend to be a left leaning moderate, which means I would vote for a Republican if they gave me a good reason to. McCain in 2000 would have been such a reason. McCain in 2008 -- not so much. If you pander to the batshiat insane demographic (either end), I'm likely not going to vote for you.
 
2012-03-19 10:26:20 AM
If John McCain entered the race right now, and was Real John McCain and not Presidential Hopeful John McCain, he would win that nomination going away. He probably lose to Obama again, so it's not worth him doing so, but he'd take the nomination no sweat.
 
2012-03-19 10:26:30 AM
At this point, the GOP is a caricature of a caricature. I don't think there's any going back to something resembling sanity for them.
 
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