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2012-03-18 06:46:05 PM
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2012-03-18 06:50:10 PM

zekebullseye: 20/20: Can we do away with rebates? I hate them.

This. What a scam.


They are only a scam for those that forget to send them in, or send them in late or wrong. Granted, they can be a pain in the arse, but I have saved a ton of money and indeed gotten many things for free or even made money after rebates.

Staples Easy Rebates are the best!

If they got rid of them, i would no longer shop at staples.
 
2012-03-18 06:55:13 PM

12349876: some_beer_drinker: 3 boxes of tissue is $7????? seriously?

I paid 8.49 for a pack of 4 boxes recently. I could get a lot cheaper for a store brand, but tissues are one thing that the quality is worth the extra price especially when you're sick and going through 100 tissues a day.

/i go for quality with toilet paper too, but i go cheap with napkins and paper towels


Know how I can tell you are not familiar with the SLICKDEALS websight?! Because I got 4 boxes of Kleenex (real Kleenex brand) for free last month at Staples, and you seriously overpaid for them!
 
2012-03-18 06:56:25 PM

Summa cum loudly: 12349876: some_beer_drinker: 3 boxes of tissue is $7????? seriously?

I paid 8.49 for a pack of 4 boxes recently. I could get a lot cheaper for a store brand, but tissues are one thing that the quality is worth the extra price especially when you're sick and going through 100 tissues a day.

/i go for quality with toilet paper too, but i go cheap with napkins and paper towels

Know how I can tell you are not familiar with the SLICKDEALS websight?! Because I got 4 boxes of Kleenex (real Kleenex brand) for free last month at Staples, and you seriously overpaid for them!


I'm not going to waste my time going to staples for just one thing.
 
2012-03-18 06:59:22 PM

downstairs: Wal-Mart offers insurance?!?

Serious question, I know someone in a similar situation... willing to take *any* job while she looks for something better.


You only get health/dental as a full-timer, and good luck finding a position anymore. She used to work in the cash office in back, which was rather nice, as she only dealt with her co-workers and the money. But, some son of a b*tch bean-counter up the food chain realized that they could save boatloads of money by cutting all of the full-time positions and turning them into part-time ones. *Poof!* Fewer full-timers = less insurance to have to pay for. As such, in order to keep her benefits she took one of the few remaining FT posts, which is, sadly, cashier. Criminy, I don't even know if new hires get health benefits anymore, she might have simply held onto hers because she was already there when they did their cuts.

Most any other place she'd be a manager by now, but nooooooo, some dog-farking asshole tried to save a few more pennies by screwing over their employees. Fark Wal-Mart and all of their cheap-assed crap that breaks within a month of use. I refuse to shop there, and my friend completely agrees with my decision. Hell, when she goes shopping for supplies, she goes to other places unless her employee discount reeeeeeally makes a difference. :(


moonshadow210: Heh and then I post my thread below...

/I keed


I thought the juxtaposition of them was rather funny, myself. :P
 
2012-03-18 07:05:02 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: a9735z: I saw some clip of that fat little crazy girl from Toddler's and Tiara's on YouTube and her mother was apparently one of those and called herself the "Coupon Queen"

That family is the perfect storm of fail

Hah!

Cripes... why am I not surprised?


Kraut10: One can only hope..

Keep 'em crossed, mammajamma.


Guidette Frankentits: Someone want to explain to me how a person can extreme coupon and get a 7$ item that doesn't have a coupon or deal for 35 cents?

By holding that coupon while slamming down a Mountain Dew while that person's jetski is being pulled over a waterfall by wild horses.

THAT'S how, because EXTREEEEEEEEEEME.


all u really need is a 2 liter and chug it with your fat gut hanging out. do the dew!!
 
2012-03-18 07:11:22 PM

L33t Squirrel: downstairs: Wal-Mart offers insurance?!?

Serious question, I know someone in a similar situation... willing to take *any* job while she looks for something better.

You only get health/dental as a full-timer, and good luck finding a position anymore. She used to work in the cash office in back, which was rather nice, as she only dealt with her co-workers and the money. But, some son of a b*tch bean-counter up the food chain realized that they could save boatloads of money by cutting all of the full-time positions and turning them into part-time ones. *Poof!* Fewer full-timers = less insurance to have to pay for. As such, in order to keep her benefits she took one of the few remaining FT posts, which is, sadly, cashier. Criminy, I don't even know if new hires get health benefits anymore, she might have simply held onto hers because she was already there when they did their cuts.

Most any other place she'd be a manager by now, but nooooooo, some dog-farking asshole tried to save a few more pennies by screwing over their employees. Fark Wal-Mart and all of their cheap-assed crap that breaks within a month of use. I refuse to shop there, and my friend completely agrees with my decision. Hell, when she goes shopping for supplies, she goes to other places unless her employee discount reeeeeeally makes a difference. :(


moonshadow210: Heh and then I post my thread below...

/I keed

I thought the juxtaposition of them was rather funny, myself. :P


Thanks. Figured it was too good to be true. But yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do nowadays.
 
b3x
2012-03-18 07:12:04 PM
since i have never seen a coupon for beer, this does not bother me at all.
 
2012-03-18 07:16:46 PM
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2012-03-18 07:20:01 PM

12349876: Summa cum loudly: 12349876: some_beer_drinker: 3 boxes of tissue is $7????? seriously?

I paid 8.49 for a pack of 4 boxes recently. I could get a lot cheaper for a store brand, but tissues are one thing that the quality is worth the extra price especially when you're sick and going through 100 tissues a day.

/i go for quality with toilet paper too, but i go cheap with napkins and paper towels

Know how I can tell you are not familiar with the SLICKDEALS websight?! Because I got 4 boxes of Kleenex (real Kleenex brand) for free last month at Staples, and you seriously overpaid for them!

I'm not going to waste my time going to staples for just one thing.


Where did I say I went there for just one thing? I also got two reams of paper and assorted other things for free on the same trip!! And Staples is very close to where I live. Still, I shouldn't complain, if it weren't for all the people like you who are not interested in rebates and coupons, there would be less for me and others who are. To each their own.
 
2012-03-18 07:28:52 PM

whidbey: moothemagiccow: whidbey: Good. It's a waste of paper, anyway.

Just lower your farking prices. Can you do that? Hm?

It's an ad. Im buying tropicana and minute maid wants me to buy minute maid, so they advertise a few cents off.

Well then they should learn how to do it electronically. You could just read off the promotion code at the checkout.

Done.


Isn't that what groupon is?

//seriously
//i have no idea what groupon is
 
2012-03-18 07:29:50 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mother of mercy!

Is this the end of Extreme Couponing?


I would hope so. When I first heard about that "movement" I thought "These savers are really losers.". Just sayin'.
 
2012-03-18 07:34:41 PM

b3x: since i have never seen a coupon for beer, this does not bother me at all.


Get elite status with an airline. Free drink coupons!
 
2012-03-18 07:36:57 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: What's next? food hoarding?
i guess it's *slightly* better than used diaper collections.


Yep, haven't you seen doomsday prepper's yet?
 
2012-03-18 07:39:21 PM

Summa cum loudly: 12349876: Summa cum loudly: 12349876: some_beer_drinker: 3 boxes of tissue is $7????? seriously?

I paid 8.49 for a pack of 4 boxes recently. I could get a lot cheaper for a store brand, but tissues are one thing that the quality is worth the extra price especially when you're sick and going through 100 tissues a day.

/i go for quality with toilet paper too, but i go cheap with napkins and paper towels

Know how I can tell you are not familiar with the SLICKDEALS websight?! Because I got 4 boxes of Kleenex (real Kleenex brand) for free last month at Staples, and you seriously overpaid for them!

I'm not going to waste my time going to staples for just one thing.

Where did I say I went there for just one thing? I also got two reams of paper and assorted other things for free on the same trip!! And Staples is very close to where I live. Still, I shouldn't complain, if it weren't for all the people like you who are not interested in rebates and coupons, there would be less for me and others who are. To each their own.


Maybe you go to the office supply shop once a week, but I only go about once a year. I hate shopping and get my tissues when I get my food.
 
2012-03-18 07:40:46 PM

12349876: Summa cum loudly: 12349876: Summa cum loudly: 12349876: some_beer_drinker: 3 boxes of tissue is $7????? seriously?

I paid 8.49 for a pack of 4 boxes recently. I could get a lot cheaper for a store brand, but tissues are one thing that the quality is worth the extra price especially when you're sick and going through 100 tissues a day.

/i go for quality with toilet paper too, but i go cheap with napkins and paper towels

Know how I can tell you are not familiar with the SLICKDEALS websight?! Because I got 4 boxes of Kleenex (real Kleenex brand) for free last month at Staples, and you seriously overpaid for them!

I'm not going to waste my time going to staples for just one thing.

Where did I say I went there for just one thing? I also got two reams of paper and assorted other things for free on the same trip!! And Staples is very close to where I live. Still, I shouldn't complain, if it weren't for all the people like you who are not interested in rebates and coupons, there would be less for me and others who are. To each their own.

Maybe you go to the office supply shop once a week, but I only go about once a year. I hate shopping and get my tissues when I get my food.


That's what I was thinking. I go to Staples seriously once a year at most.

That may be partly because I sometimes borrow printer paper from work (and I don't print much anyways, maybe 5 sheets a month).
 
2012-03-18 07:51:58 PM

Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.


No, the new pricing is not far better and more honest at JCP. JCP is the only place that sells T-shirts in the tall size that I need. Before their new business model, a package of 3 tall t-shirts was $28.00. Now they come in two packs for $20.00. So previously if I wanted 6 t-shirts, I would buy 2 of the 3 packs for $56.00. Now I would have to buy 3 of the 2 packs for $60.00. Those same 6 t-shirts now cost me 4 dollars more! But here's the real kicker - I never paid $28.00 for the pack of three before - I always got them when the coupons came out. So in reality I really paid more like $40.00 for 6 t-shirts. Now, with no more coupons I will always have to pay $60.00.

Nice try, JC Penney, but big fail. I'll look for those shirts online now, and I know I'm not the first to notice this scam.
 
2012-03-18 07:59:20 PM
Good. Giant waste of time. I don't think most stores around here do them like they used to anyways. I remember my mom clipping coupons from the newspaper, now they just have a flyer of sales. Makes sense to me, you want to charge less then charge less no need to fark around with slips of paper. They are probably saving on labour costs and improving service by doing it this way.
 
2012-03-18 08:03:30 PM

downstairs: Thanks. Figured it was too good to be true. But yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do nowadays.


Yeah, hate to be a Debbie Downer, but that's what it looks like. However, that could just be our area (Central California), and your mileage may vary and all. Pickings might be better elsewhere. :-\
 
2012-03-18 08:05:49 PM
I still use coupons...not where I'm getting my whole order for free, but matching sale items with "$x dollars off your next shopping order" deals, and coupons on top of it, works out pretty well. I'll spend maybe 1/2 hour tops once a week..going through HotCouponWorld.com and my local grocery stores (they post match-ups to coupons available and what is on sale). Then i'll print out the coupons I need (the ones in the newspaper suck now-a-days) and put them on my list. i don't really buy that much junk food, but a couple bucks off of toilet paper, and free deodorants are things everyone (hopefully) use. I can usually end up with nearly free frozen veggies, yogurts, etc. Stuff that isn't "50 cents off this tiny box of frosted coated sugar balls".

As someone else mentioned, buying things at stores that you don't really think about (tissues at Staples, etc.) seems to be a growing trend. My Bed Bath & Beyond just moved and added a health and beauty department that is already priced lower than Walgreens. I can use manufacturer coupons there plus the flood of "20% off" coupons and really save some cash. It is near the grocery stores I shop at too, so not really inconvenient.
 
2012-03-18 08:11:14 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mother of mercy!

Is this the end of Extreme Couponing?


ninjamonkey.us
 
2012-03-18 08:21:19 PM

Hermione_Granger: I went through a Coupon phase in the 90's. I quickly realized that the amount of time I was spending finding coupons was not worth the savings. I decided to pare down my shopping expenes by:

1. Making 2-week menus of what we were going to eat for dinner. Plan other meals or staple items (flourk sugar, spices) around dinner: The fam knows to use leftovers for breakfast or lunch. Sometimes I make a two-day dinner meal. Then I just let the fam knows to eat other things for breakfast or lunch.

2. Shop for what I needed for dinner using Aldi and Biggs (later Wal-Mart when Wal-Mart ran Biggs out of business and later Kroger when i got sick of waiting in line for an hour at Wal-Mart because they had 37 lines and only 4 open).

3. At Kroger, shopping for off brands or discount items and only buying the name brand if it is really better quality or a family favorite (Oreos, Mott's Apple Juice and Kraft or Sargento cheese)

4. Straight dollar store (Dollar Tree or Family Dollar) for household items: cleaners, paper goods or items that just aren't worth paying full price for.

5. Use farmer's markets for in-season produce.

I've got our grocery/ household items bill to around $100 - $150 perweek for a family of four which is flexible enough to include a fast food meal or Chinese if no one feels like cooking. But fast food prices are creeping up - damn near $10 for a single combo, so we rarely do this anymore.



But couponing now is 100x easier. There are so many forums, so many printables. You don't even have to work much, just go to the forums and people post everything.

$100 to $150 a week for 4 is EXPENSIVE in my book. I feed 4 very well for $50 to $75 a week.
 
2012-03-18 08:22:50 PM

Gramma: Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.

You have gained me as a customer. I don't do coupons and I like the lower prices.


This is great to hear. Many of my co-wokers, management and regular associates are convinced the new company changes are not going to work and the company will go out of business. And our new Apple C.E.O. guy will be the cause. Personally, I think the changes are for the better.
 
2012-03-18 08:25:48 PM

Mistymtnhop: Gramma: Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.

You have gained me as a customer. I don't do coupons and I like the lower prices.

This is great to hear. Many of my co-wokers, management and regular associates are convinced the new company changes are not going to work and the company will go out of business. And our new Apple C.E.O. guy will be the cause. Personally, I think the changes are for the better.


How do customers like the logo change? I work at Gap and when we tried to change ours last year, customers resoundingly told the company to change it back
 
2012-03-18 08:25:52 PM

Rotisserie: Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.

Well, I can tell you that my mother appreciates it. I know because I had to listen to a 15-minute speech about how awful it used to be and how refreshing it is that she can now -gasp!- go in there and buy something on the spur of the moment and not worry she's missing some 20% coupon. So thank you from my mother.

/I thank wine, for enabling me to listen to her discuss it.


That's also great to hear! We have so many older customers threaten to leave us because of the whole revamp and then the fall out from the whole Ellen thing. But they are mostly conservatives old folks.
 
2012-03-18 08:33:14 PM

Dr J Zoidberg: Mistymtnhop: Gramma: Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.

You have gained me as a customer. I don't do coupons and I like the lower prices.

This is great to hear. Many of my co-wokers, management and regular associates are convinced the new company changes are not going to work and the company will go out of business. And our new Apple C.E.O. guy will be the cause. Personally, I think the changes are for the better.

How do customers like the logo change? I work at Gap and when we tried to change ours last year, customers resoundingly told the company to change it back


Logo change hasn't had much impact. Its the price changes and coupons that have got the most attention. And the whole attack from the conservative group about having Ellen as a spokesperson. I was tripping, I thought everyone digs Ellen!
 
2012-03-18 08:34:02 PM

rhiannon: rebelyell2006: TheShavingofOccam123: Instead of giving me 10 cents off an item, add value to it. Pre-peel the banana for me. That I would buy.

Why would you pre-peel it? It takes less than five seconds to peel a banana. Plus they would have to seal the banana and the peel in plastic to keep them from going bad while sitting on the shelf.

Oh wow I misconstrued his comment and jumped to the conclusion the peel would be missing completely. Now that I realize it'd still be there, I'm totally digging his idea.


When they pre peel the banana they remove the bananus that's the value added.
 
2012-03-18 08:36:09 PM

Hermione_Granger: I went through a Coupon phase in the 90's. I quickly realized that the amount of time I was spending finding coupons was not worth the savings. I decided to pare down my shopping expenes by:

1. Making 2-week menus of what we were going to eat for dinner. Plan other meals or staple items (flourk sugar, spices) around dinner: The fam knows to use leftovers for breakfast or lunch. Sometimes I make a two-day dinner meal. Then I just let the fam knows to eat other things for breakfast or lunch.

2. Shop for what I needed for dinner using Aldi and Biggs (later Wal-Mart when Wal-Mart ran Biggs out of business and later Kroger when i got sick of waiting in line for an hour at Wal-Mart because they had 37 lines and only 4 open).

3. At Kroger, shopping for off brands or discount items and only buying the name brand if it is really better quality or a family favorite (Oreos, Mott's Apple Juice and Kraft or Sargento cheese)

4. Straight dollar store (Dollar Tree or Family Dollar) for household items: cleaners, paper goods or items that just aren't worth paying full price for.

5. Use farmer's markets for in-season produce.

I've got our grocery/ household items bill to around $100 - $150 perweek for a family of four which is flexible enough to include a fast food meal or Chinese if no one feels like cooking. But fast food prices are creeping up - damn near $10 for a single combo, so we rarely do this anymore.


i'm impressed. you're a top-notch shopper, kudos.
 
2012-03-18 08:39:22 PM

fortheloveofgod: Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.

No, the new pricing is not far better and more honest at JCP. JCP is the only place that sells T-shirts in the tall size that I need. Before their new business model, a package of 3 tall t-shirts was $28.00. Now they come in two packs for $20.00. So previously if I wanted 6 t-shirts, I would buy 2 of the 3 packs for $56.00. Now I would have to buy 3 of the 2 packs for $60.00. Those same 6 t-shirts now cost me 4 dollars more! But here's the real kicker - I never paid $28.00 for the pack of three before - I always got them when the coupons came out. So in reality I really paid more like $40.00 for 6 t-shirts. Now, with no more coupons I will always have to pay $60.00.

Nice try, JC Penney, but big fail. I'll look for those shirts online now, and I know I'm not the first to notice this scam.


Are these the Stafford brand or a name brand? Some name brand companies require us to follow certain guidelines with their merchandise. This was part of the reason there were so many exclusions of certain brands on the coupons.
 
2012-03-18 08:54:04 PM
moefuggenbrew: I don't like people that save money by doing more work than I am willing to do.

I don't care what they do, as long as they're just wasting their own time. But if I'm standing behind them in line, they're wasting my time as well. I personally make an effort to waste as little of other peoples precious time as possible. In fact, you should all stop reading this post right now and skip the statements below.

/I could do extreme couponing, but my free time is worth more to me than the money I would save. Barring that, I could take the time I would spend extreme couponing, remote connect to my workstation and log some overtime, and earn more money in the process than I could save via extreme couponing.

/The people that do this don't value their personal time as much as I do.

// ask me how I feel about useless meetings, where a dozen people with six figure salaries are listening to two people argue back and forth about what label a field should have or what color a UI element should be.
 
2012-03-18 09:19:19 PM

rev. dave: Does not affect me. Coupons are too much trouble and only work for organized people who plan ahead when they shop. I remember I am out of something when I walk by it in the aisle.


I'm right there with you. But it does effect us. We end up paying higher prices.

The companies raise their price so that they can offer a coupon and end up with the same profit. Coupons cost them money, to print, distribute, redeem, in addition to whatever the user saves.. Since I'm not spending my time trying to figure out what has a coupon and where I can get one, I end up paying extra.
 
2012-03-18 09:20:55 PM
It is true that the coupons that are put out by manufacturers now are worth much less. It used to be .50/1 or $1/1 but now it is $.50/2 or $1.00/3. Prices are going up as well.

That's fine. I'll just buy less of their product. Either way, I'm not giving them more of my money.

There are quite a few coupons out there for produce, meat & staples such as flour. I think it is regional though. On some of the coupon forums that I read, I notice the Midwest seems to have a lot of variety when it comes to those types of coupons but you don't see as much in the South or on the Coasts.

The South seems to do triple coupons a lot & at a higher limit than other areas (max. 4 like coupons per visit or max. 4 like coupons doubled/tripled.). Tripling is very nice but not when you have to make multiple trips.

The Coasts seem to have higher value coupons but the cost of living is higher.

It really doesn't take a whole lot of time to coupon and save a decent amount of money off a grocery trip but it does require organization. It is the setting up of your organization system that can be time-consuming.

It took me about maybe 45 min.-1 hr to get my list together & coupons gathered for today's grocery trip. I do use a coupon service so that makes it a lot easier. It tells me what the sale price is, which paper the coupon was out of & pre-tax price of what I want. I just just check off the items I need & fill in how many I want & then print out my list.

I went to 4 stores today & spent a total of $98.72 (I live in a state that still charges sales tax on food so potentially it could have been lower). I saved $139.81. If you count the time I took shopping (about 2 hours) there is about 3 hours invested in. $139.81/3 = $46.30/hr.

However, if I was one of those EC people, it simply would not be worth the time considering that most of them claim to spend 40-60 hrs/week looking for coupons. Even if it resulted in me paying nothing for all my purchases today, it would end up only being $5.96/hr for my time. That is not that great of a return on your time investment.

/css
 
2012-03-18 09:23:11 PM
I think I might have used a Coupon once. But as someone who has worked retail for many years, let me express wholeheartedly: fark check writers.
 
2012-03-18 09:24:10 PM

JuggleGeek: rev. dave: Does not affect me. Coupons are too much trouble and only work for organized people who plan ahead when they shop. I remember I am out of something when I walk by it in the aisle.

I'm right there with you. But it does effect us. We end up paying higher prices.

The companies raise their price so that they can offer a coupon and end up with the same profit. Coupons cost them money, to print, distribute, redeem, in addition to whatever the user saves.. Since I'm not spending my time trying to figure out what has a coupon and where I can get one, I end up paying extra.


That is not how that works. Coupons are part of a company's advertising budget. Part of that also gets to be a tax write-off as some of those expenses are deductible.
 
2012-03-18 09:47:03 PM
I miss the 10% Home Depot and Lowe's coupons that you used to be able to get at the post office.
 
2012-03-18 09:55:57 PM

Froggy: Coupons are farking retarded as well as anyone who believes that using coupons (mostly incorrectly) saves them 40% to 50% off their grocery trip. Does anyone understand how retailing works? You have to charge more than it takes you to buy it OR YOU WILL GO BANKRUPT.

Seriously. Find a new farking hobby.


You apparently don't. Ever hear of 'loss leaders' ?
 
2012-03-18 09:57:37 PM

lordargent: moefuggenbrew: I don't like people that save money by doing more work than I am willing to do.

I don't care what they do, as long as they're just wasting their own time. But if I'm standing behind them in line, they're wasting my time as well. I personally make an effort to waste as little of other peoples precious time as possible. In fact, you should all stop reading this post right now and skip the statements below.

/I could do extreme couponing, but my free time is worth more to me than the money I would save. Barring that, I could take the time I would spend extreme couponing, remote connect to my workstation and log some overtime, and earn more money in the process than I could save via extreme couponing.

/The people that do this don't value their personal time as much as I do.

// ask me how I feel about useless meetings, where a dozen people with six figure salaries are listening to two people argue back and forth about what label a field should have or what color a UI element should be.


Wow that's retarded. No, seriously, that's farking retarded. By that reasoning they're wasting your time just by doing their shopping on that day.

You're not a special snowflake, asshat. Wait your damn turn like everyone else.
 
2012-03-18 10:01:10 PM

some.old.lady.: The tv programs that publicized extreme couponers were widely recognized from the beginning as the death knells for coupon usage.

Up until this time, coupons were a valid bit of advertising and PR for a company's brands. Coupons generated much more income than they "gave away" in reduced costs to the consumer.

Now that the "coupon craze" has caught on, these companies' begin to see their cost/profit profile change enough to warrant major changes in the whole coupon structure.

The extreme couponers, via their new publicity, have undermined the very system they have relied upon to save/make their money.


And the only way this didn't happen from the start was a fear of being accused of bait-and-switch tactics.

Here's how I roll with coupons. I get a bunch of them in the mail. I spend a few minutes going through them. I throw most of them away. I see a few for stores I actually shop at for things I actually buy. I save those. Half the time I forget to take them with me making them useless.

Weird that liquor stores take coupons where I live. That's not how it was where I grew up. One liquor store even takes anyone's coupons. I should print up fake ones for them, but they actually seem interested in what the competition is doing so they would probably know if they were fake.

Grrrr.......I'm pissed off now. Did you know that I pay more in taxes for a 12-pack of beer than I do for a single pack of cigarettes? Fark them! $1.28 per 12pack if I calculated and remember right so take that with a grain of salt.

And no, the taxes on cigarettes are not as high as most people think. They really have increased that much in price since I first started smoking.

Fark 'em both.

RJR and Phillip Morris are laughing at you when you think MOST of the cost goes to taxes. That's bullshiat. Most of the cost is pure profit to them and they make you mad at the state at the same time. Not that you shouldn't be pissed off about taxes and hate what the "state" is doing, but don't give RJR or PM a free pass.
 
2012-03-18 10:06:14 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mother of mercy!

Is this the end of Extreme Couponing?


Proving conclusively there is a God.
 
2012-03-18 10:06:49 PM

lordargent: moefuggenbrew: I don't like people that save money by doing more work than I am willing to do.

I don't care what they do, as long as they're just wasting their own time. But if I'm standing behind them in line, they're wasting my time as well. I personally make an effort to waste as little of other peoples precious time as possible. In fact, you should all stop reading this post right now and skip the statements below.

/I could do extreme couponing, but my free time is worth more to me than the money I would save. Barring that, I could take the time I would spend extreme couponing, remote connect to my workstation and log some overtime, and earn more money in the process than I could save via extreme couponing.

/The people that do this don't value their personal time as much as I do.

// ask me how I feel about useless meetings, where a dozen people with six figure salaries are listening to two people argue back and forth about what label a field should have or what color a UI element should be.


You had me going up until that last bit. I hate wasting time. When I go to the grocery store, people can tell I am serious about getting in and out fast. They move out of my way because they can see in my face that I ain't wasting time and I'm just barely nice enough NOT to run over them with my shopping cart.

But you know - those "useless meetings"? Well, they probably are useless but you know who thinks they're not? The people paying your farking salary you dumbass.
 
2012-03-18 10:11:59 PM
Heh - speaking about just being barely nice enough NOT to run over people with my shopping cart, I went to a store today. I had to go through a roundabout to get there. I rolled down my window and yelled at 6 farking adult pedestrians who just jumped into traffic in front of my car. The car in the lane to the right of me stopped for them so I did too, but they did not have the right of way. I was this close to running them over, but you know I don't want blood on my car and there's always a bunch of paperwork to fill out when you run people over - so I didn't.

But goddammit, WTF is wrong with adults that they just walk in front of your car?
 
2012-03-18 10:13:18 PM
bag of Queso Ruffles potato chips at supermarket - $4.29
same bag at corner 7/11 - $2.99

Bottle 50 Aspirin, store brand, at supermarket - $4.99, on sale at $2.99
Bottle 50 Aspirin, Swan, 7/11 - $1.89

I dunno
 
2012-03-18 10:15:21 PM

Mistymtnhop: JCP associate, here. Our customers are pissed that the stupid ass coupons are gone. Doesn't matter that the coupons did nothing to help them save anything. Everything is marked up, then we take ten bucks off and it makes our customers feel better, some how. This new pricing that we have is far better and more honest, yet every weekend we get customers who complain and then head on over to Macy's.


Sorry, but the day my wife came out of Penny's with 3 items off the clearance rack for $10.12 - $10 coupon she most certainly saved money. It's pretty hard to beat t-shirts for 4 cents each.

GiveMeFiveDollars: Or just buy store brand and save more than buying name brand with a coupon.


Generally that's the case. Other than the off-your-whole-purchase type coupons we basically never use them because it's always a discount on overpriced stuff.

JesseL: Took a while, but I finally got my wife trained to pay attention to the price/unit of things and figure out whether buying a name brand product on sale or with a coupon really makes sense compared to the generic equivalent.

The hardest part is breaking away from that tricky psychological reward when the cashier tells you that you saved $X and circles it on your receipt. Sure you saved something compared to the same purchases with the sales or coupons, but you still spent more than you would have if you were a bit smarter.


Yeah. My wife understands this but still sometimes falls for the you-saved-$x bit.

Hermione_Granger: I went through a Coupon phase in the 90's. I quickly realized that the amount of time I was spending finding coupons was not worth the savings. I decided to pare down my shopping expenes by:

1. Making 2-week menus of what we were going to eat for dinner. Plan other meals or staple items (flourk sugar, spices) around dinner: The fam knows to use leftovers for breakfast or lunch. Sometimes I make a two-day dinner meal. Then I just let the fam knows to eat other things for breakfast or lunch.


Even more effective--look at the sales first, then worry about what to eat.

quadcam: I dont care, just GTFO of the 10 items or less aisle with your 50 items. just because 40 of them are free with the coupons doesnt negate the 10 item limit


What they should do is make the item lanes charge extra if you have too many items.

downstairs: L33t Squirrel: Urgh, I should show this thread to my friend, who works at Wal-Mart. (She's looking for new employment, but jobs with health insurance are scarce out here right now.)

Wal-Mart offers insurance?!?

Serious question, I know someone in a similar situation... willing to take *any* job while she looks for something better.


Yeah, my understanding is that they do, it's just not 100% employer paid and so an awful lot of people don't get it. Wal-Mart isn't really the demon the unions make it out to be.

Summa cum loudly: zekebullseye: 20/20: Can we do away with rebates? I hate them.

This. What a scam.

They are only a scam for those that forget to send them in, or send them in late or wrong. Granted, they can be a pain in the arse, but I have saved a ton of money and indeed gotten many things for free or even made money after rebates.

Staples Easy Rebates are the best!

If they got rid of them, i would no longer shop at staples.


Some companies are bad about them. That reminds me, I have to yet again nag ByteCC about a rebate--it appears the check doesn't come unless you call and ask about it and they tell you it's on the way. (They do send it when nagged, though.)
 
2012-03-18 10:26:18 PM

BronyMedic: Guidette Frankentits: HempHead: Guidette Frankentits: Someone want to explain to me how a person can extreme coupon and get a 7$ item that dToshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Guidette Frankentits: Someone want to explain to me how a person can extreme coupon and get a 7$ item that doesn't have a coupon or deal for 35 cents?

By holding that coupon while slamming down a Mountain DewJolt ColaSurge while that person's jetski is being pulled over a waterfall by wild horses.

THAT'S how, because EXTREEEEEEEEEEME.

Not extreme enough

20% More Extreme


And 20% cooler.
 
2012-03-18 10:30:39 PM

Happy Hours: lordargent: moefuggenbrew: I don't like people that save money by doing more work than I am willing to do.

I don't care what they do, as long as they're just wasting their own time. But if I'm standing behind them in line, they're wasting my time as well. I personally make an effort to waste as little of other peoples precious time as possible. In fact, you should all stop reading this post right now and skip the statements below.

/I could do extreme couponing, but my free time is worth more to me than the money I would save. Barring that, I could take the time I would spend extreme couponing, remote connect to my workstation and log some overtime, and earn more money in the process than I could save via extreme couponing.

/The people that do this don't value their personal time as much as I do.

// ask me how I feel about useless meetings, where a dozen people with six figure salaries are listening to two people argue back and forth about what label a field should have or what color a UI element should be.

You had me going up until that last bit. I hate wasting time. When I go to the grocery store, people can tell I am serious about getting in and out fast. They move out of my way because they can see in my face that I ain't wasting time and I'm just barely nice enough NOT to run over them with my shopping cart.

But you know - those "useless meetings"? Well, they probably are useless but you know who thinks they're not? The people paying your farking salary you dumbass.


If it probably is useless, then it is useless, and who cares what anyone else "thinks" about it? Just because somebody who signs my check thinks that something is of vital importance to his sense of underarm protection does not make it true. Especially when said meeting consists of people trading information in quadruplicate that everyone already knows but which makes Mr. Bigshot feel important because he's sitting at the head of the table.
 
2012-03-18 10:31:55 PM
Happy Hours : But you know - those "useless meetings"? Well, they probably are useless but you know who thinks they're not? The people paying your farking salary you dumbass.

My bosses bosses boss has specifically told me that I should attend these meetings so that I can be available for questions that come up. Even though they're mostly a waste of time. He also said that I could work on other projects during the meeting if the current discussion topic was not relevant to me.

That being said

What industry do you work in that you've never encountered a meeting that was a waste of your time? I was under the impression that useless meetings was a meme.

www.jocelynarsenault.com

and that people have done studies regarding how much times meetings waste.
How 3 Billion Meetings Per Year Waste Time, Money and Productivity in the Enterprise

"Like email, people are "cc'd" into meetings when they don't really need to be present. According to a Microsoft survey, employees globally spend an average of 5.6 hours a week in meetings. 69 percent of participants feel that these meetings are unproductive and unnecessary. Not only is the mental cost of these meetings high, they also affect a company's bottom line. These weekly 5.6 hours of unproductive time is like giving each employee 12 additional days of paid vacation per year. In fact, Group Vision estimates that Fortune 500 companies waste an estimated $75 million per year in meetings. The numbers clearly make the case that meetings are costly beyond their value."
 
2012-03-18 10:33:00 PM

Carousel Beast: Froggy: Coupons are farking retarded as well as anyone who believes that using coupons (mostly incorrectly) saves them 40% to 50% off their grocery trip. Does anyone understand how retailing works? You have to charge more than it takes you to buy it OR YOU WILL GO BANKRUPT.

Seriously. Find a new farking hobby.

You apparently don't. Ever hear of 'loss leaders' ?


Actually, smartass, I do because I run a retail establishment. "Loss leaders" only really work for very large retailers that can afford to do such things. Most small retailers simply get hosed on the deal as people tend to just get the loss-leader product and nothing else. Customers expect everything to be sold at ridiculously low prices with margins of mere pennies, regardless of product quality or customer service. Not everything can be sold at slickdeals or dealextreme firesale prices.
 
2012-03-18 10:43:02 PM
Carousel Beast : Wow that's retarded. No, seriously, that's farking retarded. By that reasoning they're wasting your time just by doing their shopping on that day.

You're not a special snowflake, asshat. Wait your damn turn like everyone else.


They're wasting my time, just like I'm wasting the time of everyone behind me.

But society has determined that there's an acceptable amount of time to spend doing this particular activity. The snowflakes are the ones that choose to go go well over this time.

Personally, I go out of my way to make sure that I waste as little of other people's time as possible.

//When it gets to the point where they call another cashier to the front because it has already taken 10 minutes to scan a person's coupons in, it's gone well over the line of what's reasonable and prudent.

// you can't put the full blame of this on them though, a better way of managing coupons would basically solve this issue.
 
2012-03-18 10:44:29 PM

lordargent: Happy Hours : But you know - those "useless meetings"? Well, they probably are useless but you know who thinks they're not? The people paying your farking salary you dumbass.

My bosses bosses boss has specifically told me that I should attend these meetings so that I can be available for questions that come up. Even though they're mostly a waste of time. He also said that I could work on other projects during the meeting if the current discussion topic was not relevant to me.

That being said

What industry do you work in that you've never encountered a meeting that was a waste of your time? I was under the impression that useless meetings was a meme.



and that people have done studies regarding how much times meetings waste.
How 3 Billion Meetings Per Year Waste Time, Money and Productivity in the Enterprise

"Like email, people are "cc'd" into meetings when they don't really need to be present. According to a Microsoft survey, employees globally spend an average of 5.6 hours a week in meetings. 69 percent of participants feel that these meetings are unproductive and unnecessary. Not only is the mental cost of these meetings high, they also affect a company's bottom line. These weekly 5.6 hours of unproductive time is like giving each employee 12 additional days of paid vacation per year. In fact, Group Vision estimates that Fortune 500 companies waste an estimated $75 million per year in meetings. The numbers clearly make the case that meetings are costly beyond their value."


Our place came up with a fantastic idea. All meeting time on an employee's timesheet is deducted from the budget of the meeting caller, to 'pay' for the meeting.

We have fewer meetings now.
 
2012-03-18 10:47:20 PM

RogermcAllen: moefuggenbrew: I don't like people that save money by doing more work than I am willing to do....

...and make me wait in line while the cashier has to scan 26 coupons.


The best is when the coupon doesn't ring up as advertised, and the whole line shuts down for 10 minutes while the customer argues about 10 cents and demands to talk to the manager, etc.
 
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