Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(ESPN)   HRT disqualified from Australian GP. This is not a repeat from 2011   (en.espnf1.com ) divider line
    More: Fail, Australian GP, HRT, uphill, permissions  
•       •       •

1771 clicks; posted to Sports » on 17 Mar 2012 at 4:44 PM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



166 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2012-03-17 11:14:09 AM  
In somewhat related news, Ferrari is now a mid-field team and Mercedes a leader team.


/oh, and the race begins tonight at 2AM Eastern/11PM Pacific
 
2012-03-17 12:35:40 PM  

King Something: Ferrari is now a mid-field team and Mercedes a leader team


I'm wondering if Vittel will pull off the threepeat. I hope he does. With a good car he could finish this season in the top 5 all time for wins. And he'll be 25 by the end of the season.
 
2012-03-17 04:55:50 PM  
There's an estrogen joke headline in there somewhere, but noone in the Sports tab would get it.

/ why didn't my tivo catch that the race was coming up? Thanks for the heads up, Fark!
 
2012-03-17 05:01:52 PM  
For the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to Indycar more than F1 this year.

And if I'm not too drunk/sleepy I may use this thread to rant alone about the race tonight.
 
2012-03-17 05:02:39 PM  
Not disqualified, Subby. They never qualified in the first place, since they couldn't hit the 107% mark... just like last year. Since they didn't qualify, they couldn't be DISqualified.
 
2012-03-17 05:10:11 PM  
Ugh, that team is pretty hopeless.

Glad to see Caterham is closing in on the midfield, last year they were 2s off the midfield, this year they're only 1s away. Having some suspense in Q1 will be nice.

At the front of the field, I can see any of the top 7 winning this race. I expect Schumacher to win at least once, and Rosberg to finally get one as well.
 
2012-03-17 05:14:13 PM  

crotchgrabber: For the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to Indycar more than F1 this year.

And if I'm not too drunk/sleepy I may use this thread to rant alone about the race tonight.


Not sure why you feel that way, this year has one of the tightest grids in recent memory. Seeing Kimi, Jense, Lewis, Michael, Fernando, and Seb all battle it out in competitive cars is going to be epic!
 
2012-03-17 05:24:49 PM  
Bristol/F1 opener/Bristol weekends are like the junior version of Monaco/Indy/Charlotte Sundays.

Also, I'm booked to go to the NYC race next year. Anyone else planning to attend?
 
2012-03-17 05:27:41 PM  

afghanwhiggle: crotchgrabber: For the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to Indycar more than F1 this year.

And if I'm not too drunk/sleepy I may use this thread to rant alone about the race tonight.

Not sure why you feel that way, this year has one of the tightest grids in recent memory. Seeing Kimi, Jense, Lewis, Michael, Fernando, and Seb all battle it out in competitive cars is going to be epic!


I'm not saying that I'm not stoked for F1, I'm just saying I'm really excited for Indycar. New car, multiple engines, possible engine failure drama, no Danica, Indycar has a really strong field, and I don't have to spend a small fortune to go to one of the races.
 
2012-03-17 05:38:33 PM  
I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season. That being said, I still think Marussia will fold first, and Narain is paying for the most expensive spectator seat in the house.

This is going to be an amazing season:

McLaren looks to be in fine shape.
Those Ferrari tossers are getting a healthy dose of karma.
Seb doesn't look unbeatable.
Mercedes can compete.
Kimi-bob is as reckless as ever.
Sky doesn't suck balls.
Eddie Jordan is still Eddie.


This is Lewis' year, again (I hope).
 
2012-03-17 05:48:32 PM  
Wait, do people actually buy the preseason hype year after year thinking there won't be a team destined for the trophy after the first 3 races?

/is this the race thread?
 
2012-03-17 05:53:32 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season.


They did, then Colin Kolles left the team, taking not only all the designs with him, but ALL the manufacturing equipment too (he owned it all). This season's car is 100% new, and the they had to purchase all new stuff to build it with. I'll be surprised if they qualify in Malaysia next week, too.
 
2012-03-17 05:55:15 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season. That being said, I still think Marussia will fold first, and Narain is paying for the most expensive spectator seat in the house.

This is going to be an amazing season:

McLaren looks to be in fine shape.
Those Ferrari tossers are getting a healthy dose of karma.
Seb doesn't look unbeatable.
Mercedes can compete.
Kimi-bob is as reckless as ever.
Sky doesn't suck balls.
Eddie Jordan is still Eddie.


This is Lewis' year, again (I hope).


Generally, I agree with you. However I hope that it's Jenson's year rather than Lewis. Still, it should be a fantastic season.
 
2012-03-17 06:02:23 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season. That being said, I still think Marussia will fold first, and Narain is paying for the most expensive spectator seat in the house.

This is going to be an amazing season:

McLaren looks to be in fine shape.
Those Ferrari tossers are getting a healthy dose of karma.
Seb doesn't look unbeatable.
Mercedes can compete.
Kimi-bob is as reckless as ever.
Sky doesn't suck balls.
Eddie Jordan is still Eddie.


This is Lewis' year, again (I hope).


Heh, ya had me till Lewis...I think what's most exciting is Lotus giving Kimi a car he can stir things up in. And I'm not sure who is partnered with Brundle on Sky but I'm really tired of him yelling at me.
 
2012-03-17 06:07:06 PM  

Wonderduck: UNC_Samurai: I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season.

They did, then Colin Kolles left the team, taking not only all the designs with him, but ALL the manufacturing equipment too (he owned it all). This season's car is 100% new, and the they had to purchase all new stuff to build it with. I'll be surprised if they qualify in Malaysia next week, too.


They'll be surprised too. (new window)

"It's going to be damn hard in Malaysia. It's going to be a lot hotter and we have cooling problems already, so it's going to be very hard. We don't want to bulls**t ourselves; it's going to be very difficult."
 
2012-03-17 06:16:16 PM  
By the way, I just got a couple of Senna... looking forward to watching that tonight instead of going out with the raging drunks.
 
2012-03-17 08:25:58 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm really surprised. I was convinced Marussia would have been the team struggling to stay on the grid this year. Yes, they have a bigger budget than HRT, but that team went nowhere with Virgin's resources behind them, and it seemed like Hispania got their shiat together by the end of last season. That being said, I still think Marussia will fold first, and Narain is paying for the most expensive spectator seat in the house.

This is going to be an amazing season:

McLaren looks to be in fine shape.
Those Ferrari tossers are getting a healthy dose of karma.
Seb doesn't look unbeatable.
Mercedes can compete.
Kimi-bob is as reckless as ever.
Sky doesn't suck balls.
Eddie Jordan is still Eddie.


This is Lewis' year, again (I hope).



Check out Joe Saward's F1 blog. He does a good job of covering the politics and behind the scenes manuvering. HRT pretty much imploded during the off season, it's suprising they even put together a car at all.

Link (new window)
 
2012-03-17 08:53:52 PM  
Here's a good question: Why is HRT even racing?

Seriously. They have no chance, nor did they ever of winning. A complete waste of money.

I love F1 as much as anyone, but the current landscape is a farking disgrace. There is no competitive balance other than the top few factory teams. I am all for blowing the whole thing up and re-working the entire series.

/Morgan is having an impressive showing at Sebring..only 11 seconds off top place in LMP2
 
2012-03-17 08:56:12 PM  

the biggest redneck here: Also, I'm booked to go to the NYC race next year. Anyone else planning to attend?


If I can afford the trip and the tickets, I'll be there.

/probably will not be there


Jensaarai: is this the race thread?


Ummm....

Sure, why not.
 
2012-03-17 08:57:50 PM  
Schumacher in a competitive car again. First ever Hamilton and Button 1-2 start. Kimmy is back. Senna is getting better, Vettel has to really prove himself now. This season could be amazing.
 
2012-03-17 09:04:04 PM  

crotchgrabber: By the way, I just got a couple of Senna... looking forward to watching that tonight instead of going out with the raging drunks.


You don't have Netflix? It's been on there for awhile. It's great.

Also, this season is shaping up to be awesome. I will be watching this on SPEED, hopefully wasted.
 
2012-03-17 09:04:37 PM  

fatalvenom: , but the current landscape is a farking disgrace.


It's still not not as bad as 1989 to about 1991 was, right now we have what one team with both cars DNQ? Back then you could expect three or four teams to DNQ for each race.
 
2012-03-17 09:15:19 PM  
I think we're going to have to have a Fark F1 Party in Austin. I expect to be there in November.
 
2012-03-17 09:21:20 PM  

WhyteRaven74: fatalvenom: , but the current landscape is a farking disgrace.

It's still not not as bad as 1989 to about 1991 was, right now we have what one team with both cars DNQ? Back then you could expect three or four teams to DNQ for each race.


Those were the glory days for sure...but I'd like to see a degree of competitive balance. Not quite NASCAR type rules, but something to make it somewhat fair.
 
2012-03-17 09:27:25 PM  
F1 @ Bristol.

You know you want it.
 
2012-03-17 09:28:29 PM  

fatalvenom: but something to make it somewhat fair.


As soon as Eccelstone is pushing up daisies, it'll happen. Of course F1 might not be in good shape by the time that happens. Last year, they gave Ferrari 2.5% more revenue sharing than other teams got, because well Ferrari must be appeased at all costs. Stuff like that, and the sliding scale revenue sharing stuff, where the teams that win get the most of ad revenues, even though they need it the least, is all Eccelstone's doing. He honestly doesn't give a damn how competitive F1 is, never has. He doesn't care about fans or growing a fan base. Never has either.
 
2012-03-17 09:29:41 PM  

Jensaarai: You know you want it.


I'd love to see what sort of lap time an F1 car could do at Bristol, sadly except for Red Bull none of the teams have any sense of mass entertainment and I'm sure somehow some way Bernie Eccelstone would never let it happen.
 
2012-03-17 09:33:23 PM  
actually what I'd really love to see, an F-1 car turning a few laps at Road America
 
2012-03-17 09:43:02 PM  

WhyteRaven74: actually what I'd really love to see, an F-1 car turning a few laps at Road America


Also, instead of the two proposed US GP sites, I'd prefer:

The Indy 500 being an official F1 event (Again? I forgot, I'm drunk.)
Watkins Glen getting its deserved recognition
Daytona Road course
Laguna Seca

Actually, the Jersey circuit looks nice if they actually pull it off. I'm much closer to the Austin one, so I'm hoping for a series of miracles there.
 
2012-03-17 10:24:49 PM  

King Something: the biggest redneck here: Also, I'm booked to go to the NYC race next year. Anyone else planning to attend?

If I can afford the trip and the tickets, I'll be there.

/probably will not be there


Jensaarai: is this the race thread?

Ummm....

Sure, why not.


If I didn't have a free place to stay and folks to split the gas money with, I wouldn't be going. But a weekend of F1 in NYC in June for the price of a ticket? Yeah, I'm all over that.
 
2012-03-17 10:35:03 PM  
Meanwhile, in Bristol TN, Nelson Piquet jr. won the K&N race.
 
2012-03-17 10:51:34 PM  

good_2_go: Meanwhile, in Bristol TN, Nelson Piquet jr. won the K&N race.


No doubt Flavio had something to do with this.
 
2012-03-17 11:14:25 PM  

Jensaarai: WhyteRaven74: actually what I'd really love to see, an F-1 car turning a few laps at Road America

Also, instead of the two proposed US GP sites, I'd prefer:

The Indy 500 being an official F1 event (Again? I forgot, I'm drunk.)
Watkins Glen getting its deserved recognition
Daytona Road course
Laguna Seca

Actually, the Jersey circuit looks nice if they actually pull it off. I'm much closer to the Austin one, so I'm hoping for a series of miracles there.


The Indy 500 was a World Driver's Championship points-paying race between 1950 and 1960.

I seem to remember reading not that long ago that Watkins Glen needs to have roughly a gazillion dollars worth of improvements to be up to current F1 safety and technical standards. A new pit lane would be the easiest part.

The biggest problem with Laguna Seca is the same one that Road America has: allegedly too remote and too small. Having said that, the French Grand Prix ran for 18 years at Magny-Cours, which is similar to running a race in Podunk Iowa. I'd kill to see 24 F1 cars try to handle the Corkscrew...

The Daytona Road course has the problem of those huge banked turns. F1 cars had problems with the relatively minor banking at Indy; the 31-degree turns would probably play hob with the engines. But oh, it would be glorious to see for however long they lasted.
 
2012-03-17 11:32:22 PM  

Wonderduck: The Daytona Road course has the problem of those huge banked turns. F1 cars had problems with the relatively minor banking at Indy; the 31-degree turns would probably play hob with the engines. But oh, it would be glorious to see for however long they lasted.


The problem at Indy was the tires they were running that year couldn't handle the sustained speeds and the resulting heat. The drivers' association had a working solution, to put a chicane in the banked corner that would have solved the problem.

Guess which team pitched a biatch-fit and wouldn't let it happen?

Ferrari - one of only three teams that were using Bridgestones that year. They waltzed to victory against Jordan and Minardi.

/Bernie is not the problem with F1. The problem is how much influence Ferrari has on the FIA.
 
2012-03-17 11:33:40 PM  

Wonderduck: The Daytona Road course has the problem of those huge banked turns. F1 cars had problems with the relatively minor banking at Indy; the 31-degree turns would probably play hob with the engines. But oh, it would be glorious to see for however long they lasted.


Hey, watching aero-grip cars taking banked corners at high speed is entertaining, in a Russian roulette sort of way.

fatalvenom: Those were the glory days for sure...but I'd like to see a degree of competitive balance. Not quite NASCAR type rules, but something to make it somewhat fair.


I'm conflicted on that one. The very thing that got me into F1 was the variation between cars, so the idea of more restrictive rules in an attempt at parity leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But at the same time, it'd be nice to see 5 or 6 competitive teams instead of 2, in any given season.

If it turns into a spec series though, I'm out. The engineering is what makes it so much more interesting than most other racing series.
 
2012-03-17 11:34:53 PM  

UNC_Samurai: The problem is how much influence Ferrari has on the FIA.


That said, oh lord it's fun to watch them shiat the bed in qualie.
 
2012-03-18 12:03:09 AM  

UNC_Samurai: The problem at Indy was the tires they were running that year couldn't handle the sustained speeds and the resulting heat. The drivers' association had a working solution, to put a chicane in the banked corner that would have solved the problem.

Guess which team pitched a biatch-fit and wouldn't let it happen?

Ferrari - one of only three teams that were using Bridgestones that year. They waltzed to victory against Jordan and Minardi.

/Bernie is not the problem with F1. The problem is how much influence Ferrari has on the FIA.


God I hated that. I nearly went to the USGP that year and am abundantly glad that I didn't. I would have been livid. Even Jordan and Minardi, who also ran Bridgestones, wanted the chicane. That's one of the many reasons why I STILL hate Jean Todt.
 
2012-03-18 12:10:26 AM  

WhyteRaven74: I'd love to see what sort of lap time an F1 car could do at Bristol, sadly except for Red Bull none of the teams have any sense of mass entertainment and I'm sure somehow some way Bernie Eccelstone would never let it happen.


If a sponsor says jump, someone will do it. McLaren have run cars at Bathurst and Watkins Glen just within the last year.

Qualifying was great. There's actually some potential for an interesting and entertaining season. I shall now attempt to sleep for a couple of hours before the race gets going...
 
2012-03-18 12:32:38 AM  

Siamese Bream: If a sponsor says jump, someone will do it. McLaren have run cars at Bathurst and Watkins Glen just within the last year.


Holy shiat why did I not know about this until now??? I had to find the video - Hot lap onboard camera with Jenson Button. I'd love to know what time they could pull if they actually set up the car correctly for the circuit. He maxed the car out about half way down conrod straight.
 
2012-03-18 12:49:18 AM  

WhyteRaven74: fatalvenom: but something to make it somewhat fair.

As soon as Eccelstone is pushing up daisies, it'll happen. Of course F1 might not be in good shape by the time that happens. Last year, they gave Ferrari 2.5% more revenue sharing than other teams got, because well Ferrari must be appeased at all costs. Stuff like that, and the sliding scale revenue sharing stuff, where the teams that win get the most of ad revenues, even though they need it the least, is all Eccelstone's doing. He honestly doesn't give a damn how competitive F1 is, never has. He doesn't care about fans or growing a fan base. Never has either.


I love the cars, the technology etc...

But for farks sake.....qualifying is more fun to watch than the actual race.

Eccelstone and his twat daughter need to die of farking AIDS as far as I'm concerned. These stupid techno-hippie, douche-bag, "plug my car in because I'm the piece of shiat asshole who eats roots, recycles beer bottles, and loves to hate people that aren't like me because they might be able to bang a piece of pussy that doesn't smell like the business end of a saturated Birkenstock that were in a Subaru Outback."

I mean for farks sake....
 
2012-03-18 12:51:38 AM  

Wonderduck: Jensaarai: WhyteRaven74: actually what I'd really love to see, an F-1 car turning a few laps at Road America

Also, instead of the two proposed US GP sites, I'd prefer:

The Indy 500 being an official F1 event (Again? I forgot, I'm drunk.)
Watkins Glen getting its deserved recognition
Daytona Road course
Laguna Seca

Actually, the Jersey circuit looks nice if they actually pull it off. I'm much closer to the Austin one, so I'm hoping for a series of miracles there.

The Indy 500 was a World Driver's Championship points-paying race between 1950 and 1960.

I seem to remember reading not that long ago that Watkins Glen needs to have roughly a gazillion dollars worth of improvements to be up to current F1 safety and technical standards. A new pit lane would be the easiest part.

The biggest problem with Laguna Seca is the same one that Road America has: allegedly too remote and too small. Having said that, the French Grand Prix ran for 18 years at Magny-Cours, which is similar to running a race in Podunk Iowa. I'd kill to see 24 F1 cars try to handle the Corkscrew...

The Daytona Road course has the problem of those huge banked turns. F1 cars had problems with the relatively minor banking at Indy; the 31-degree turns would probably play hob with the engines. But oh, it would be glorious to see for however long they lasted.



Yeah, this is why there will never be an F1 race at Laguna Seca. Not to mention that it's kinda a short course to have an F1 race.

The location of the track isn't too much of an issue, usually. Magny-Cours was in the boonies, and so is KIC. I say "usually" because sometimes the nearest town can't handle all the people who come to town for the week (team mechanics, marshalls, film crew, fans, etc.) and this is a big part of why they don't have the Japanese GP at Fuji anymore -- it would be like hosting the Super Bowl in Billings, Montana.

----------------

Also, I seem to recall Bernie saying something about how he'd like just 5 races per year in (western) Europe. If this ever happens while he's the head honcho of F1, I'm guessing the 5 tracks that stay on the calendar will be, in no particular order:
+ Silverstone, because Bernie's a Briton;
+ Monza, because Ferrari will call for his head on a pike if that one is ever dropped;
+ Monaco, because EVERYONE will call for his head on a pike (and seriously, an F1 season without Monaco is like a bacon cheeseburger without bacon);
+ Paul Ricard in France, because Bernie owns that track (which is why it's the host of the French GP when it returns next year instead of Magny-Cours); and
+ Valencia, because Tilke designed that circuit.

Those five would be "every year" races, while other European tracks would be "every other year" tracks (the way Nuerburgring and Hockenheimring are, Fuji and Suzuka were supposed to be, and Paul Ricard and Spa will be) if not just outright dropped from the calendar like Turkey. Russia would be an "every year" track only until their contract ended, Hungaroring might look around nervously while the FIA looks at the Red Bull Ring (formerly A-1 Ring, and Osterreichring before that) and Imola will continue collecting dust because they can't afford to rebuild the paddock.

Meanwhile, Mexico and South Africa are being given consideration, Argentina is offering a quickie in exchange for a new street track, and the Texas legislature are less than pleased with the street track in Bayonne or whatever-the-hell-township-on-the-wrong-side-of-the-Hudson.

For that last one, Texas is partially subsidizing the track's construction in exchange for it being the only Grand Prix in the United States for a few years. They probably didn't know that the FIA doesn't really mind countries breaking the "only one GP per country per season" rule by naming their second GP after a continent, ocean or another country - resulting in the German GP at Hockenheimring and the Luxembourg GP or European GP at Nuerburgring; the San Marino GP in Imola, Italy and the Italian GP in Monza; the US having THREE Grands Prix in 1982 (the US Grand Prix West in Phoenix, the Detroit Grand Prix, and the Caesar's Palace Grand Prix in the parking lot of the Las Vegas hotel) and two in several other seasons (USGP at Watkins Glen and USGP West at Long Beach; and starting next year, the USGP in Austin and the Grand Prix of America in New York); the Pacific GP in Okayama in 1994 and 1995 while Suzuka had the Japanese GP; and the Grands Prix in Spain, with the Spanish GP in Barcelona and the European GP, formerly in Jerez and currently in Valencia.
 
2012-03-18 01:26:19 AM  
So who's awake for this thing?
 
2012-03-18 01:31:35 AM  

Tsrwedge: So who's awake for this thing?


Me. Mind you, its in my home city so its a reasonable hour for me. Bad luck for you guys I spose...
 
2012-03-18 01:36:01 AM  
Awake here on the East Coast! Sitting here in my Honda F1 shirt.
 
mjg
2012-03-18 01:37:00 AM  
Count me in.
 
2012-03-18 01:41:08 AM  
Race starts in about 20 minutes.
 
2012-03-18 01:56:14 AM  

SniperJoe: Awake here on the East Coast! Sitting here in my Honda F1 shirt.


We are insane
 
mjg
2012-03-18 01:57:28 AM  
 
2012-03-18 01:59:58 AM  

UNC_Samurai: as the tires they were running that year couldn't handle the sustained speeds and the resulting heat


That's actually something the tire maker needs to fix and could fix easily.
 
2012-03-18 02:00:26 AM  

UNC_Samurai: We are insane


I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. But it's a good kind of crazy.
 
Displayed 50 of 166 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report