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(ESPN)   HRT disqualified from Australian GP. This is not a repeat from 2011   (en.espnf1.com) divider line 166
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2012-03-18 02:03:11 AM

Wonderduck: technical standards


ie get rid of anything that would make it actually interesting, Tilke must be appeased. The safety stuff really isn't a big hurdle, the technical standards stuff is just garbage. As long as the track meets safety requirements, who cares about anything else?
 
2012-03-18 02:03:23 AM

WhyteRaven74: UNC_Samurai: as the tires they were running that year couldn't handle the sustained speeds and the resulting heat

That's actually something the tire maker needs to fix and could fix easily.


That was 2005. Michelin and Bridgestone were the makers. Now it's Pirelli
 
2012-03-18 02:03:41 AM
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2012-03-18 02:03:44 AM
... and it's go!
 
mjg
2012-03-18 02:04:44 AM
Cummon Schumi
 
2012-03-18 02:06:55 AM
Vettel overtaking? Oh yeah, he needs to do that on occasion.

/dammit, Moldanado
 
2012-03-18 02:06:57 AM
Hulk is out, and so is Grosjean.
 
2012-03-18 02:07:39 AM
Good pass by Vettel there.
 
2012-03-18 02:07:47 AM
Disappointing for Grosjean. I was hoping for something special from him.
 
2012-03-18 02:08:12 AM
Quite a bit of early contact, but it wouldn't be Albert Park if there wasn't.
 
2012-03-18 02:09:36 AM
Oh yeah the other part of F1 that sucks, the broadcasters don't control what they show, F1 controls it.
 
mjg
2012-03-18 02:10:39 AM

WhyteRaven74: Oh yeah the other part of F1 that sucks, the broadcasters don't control what they show, F1 Bernie controls it.

 
2012-03-18 02:11:54 AM

WhyteRaven74: Oh yeah the other part of F1 that sucks, the broadcasters don't control what they show, F1 controls it.


Honestly, I think that's for the better. I'd trust the BBC, but ESPN, Sky, and STAR? I've seen too much American sports to think they wouldn't try and cut away to celebrity interviews or other nonsense.
 
2012-03-18 02:11:55 AM
I'm working a few minutes behind on DVR, will try to catch up...
 
2012-03-18 02:12:24 AM
Tough luck, Seb.
 
2012-03-18 02:13:13 AM

WhyteRaven74: Oh yeah the other part of F1 that sucks, the broadcasters don't control what they show, F1 controls it.


Yeah, that can be problematic. Production quality used to vary hugely (as it was always local personnel), but it seems to have gotten better as of late
 
2012-03-18 02:13:51 AM

UNC_Samurai: Honestly, I think that's for the better. I'd trust the BBC, but ESPN, Sky, and STAR? I've seen too much American sports to think they wouldn't try and cut away to celebrity interviews or other nonsense.


It's Speed that does the races in the US not ESPN. And you can have F1 control when you have commercial breaks but let the broadcasters decide which cameras to show and when to show replays and such.
 
2012-03-18 02:14:50 AM
So how long until the first engine letting go?
 
2012-03-18 02:15:28 AM
Anyone know if these tyres still suffer from the cliff like last year?
 
2012-03-18 02:15:43 AM
5 of the top 6 are former champions. Pick up the pace, Kimi.
 
2012-03-18 02:17:42 AM

UNC_Samurai: 5 of the top 6 are former champions. Pick up the pace, Kimi.


He started in 18th, so he's working his way up there!
 
2012-03-18 02:18:15 AM

WhyteRaven74: UNC_Samurai: Honestly, I think that's for the better. I'd trust the BBC, but ESPN, Sky, and STAR? I've seen too much American sports to think they wouldn't try and cut away to celebrity interviews or other nonsense.

It's Speed that does the races in the US not ESPN. And you can have F1 control when you have commercial breaks but let the broadcasters decide which cameras to show and when to show replays and such.


I was referring to all the different locations where those places broadcast. Sky (an arm of the Fox/Murdoch media empire) has rights in the UK. ESPN has rights in Singapore and Hong Kong. STAR has rights in India.

Speed isn't terrible, but they're shiatty compared to BBC. I loved streaming the BBC feed just to listen to Brundle and The Chin, but Bob Varsha needs to EABOD.
 
2012-03-18 02:19:23 AM

UNC_Samurai: ESPN has rights in Singapore and Hong Kong


ahh gotcha :)
 
2012-03-18 02:20:03 AM
Seb in P3
 
2012-03-18 02:20:14 AM
Ah, the first utterance of "young Mexican rookie" from Hobbo about Perez.
 
2012-03-18 02:20:51 AM
King Something: Not to mention that [Laguna Seca]'s kinda a short course to have an F1 race.

IIRC, it's just long enough to be certified. (Not that it changes anything you said, mind)

King Something: the US Grand Prix West in Phoenix Long Beach

FTFY

/ PHX was 89-91
 
2012-03-18 02:21:27 AM
As much as I love this track, I'll always be partial the track at Surfer's Paradise that CART raced at.
 
2012-03-18 02:21:42 AM
Someone is doing some lawn maintence.
 
2012-03-18 02:23:04 AM
Surfer's was a fantastic circuit.

Gearbox for Michael, that's a shame.
 
2012-03-18 02:23:13 AM

Victoly: King Something: the US Grand Prix West in Phoenix Long Beach

FTFY

/ PHX was 89-91


Yeah. Brain fart.

/Schumi is in the box
 
mjg
2012-03-18 02:23:16 AM
Schumi out
Kimi in 10th
 
2012-03-18 02:24:32 AM

Tsrwedge: Surfer's was a fantastic circuit.


One thing that made CART so awesome was how many street circuits they ran. And Surfer's was probably the best of the bunch.
 
2012-03-18 02:25:09 AM
Bob Varsha, "Kimster"? Really?
 
2012-03-18 02:25:18 AM
God, those noses are even uglier from head-on.
 
2012-03-18 02:26:24 AM
WhyteRaven74: It's still not not as bad as 1989 to about 1991 was, right now we have what one team with both cars DNQ? Back then you could expect three or four teams to DNQ for each race.

To be fair, you had about ten-thirteen more entries than grid spots back then, and if you were part of the prequalifying crowd, it was really hard to break out and improve.

/ On the other hand, Life
 
2012-03-18 02:27:42 AM

Victoly: On the other hand, Life


Yeah, though at least Life tried to run, remember Lola?
 
2012-03-18 02:28:05 AM
UNC_Samurai: Speed isn't terrible, but they're shiatty compared to BBC. I loved streaming the BBC feed just to listen to Brundle and The Chin, but Bob Varsha needs to EABOD.

You sound like a smug Canadian hockey fan complaining that NBCSN coverage sucks compared to HNIC.
 
2012-03-18 02:28:24 AM

UNC_Samurai: God, those noses are even uglier from head-on.


Yeah, they really are god-awful. All the more reason to root for McLaren, I guess.
 
2012-03-18 02:28:37 AM

Victoly: WhyteRaven74: It's still not not as bad as 1989 to about 1991 was, right now we have what one team with both cars DNQ? Back then you could expect three or four teams to DNQ for each race.

To be fair, you had about ten-thirteen more entries than grid spots back then, and if you were part of the prequalifying crowd, it was really hard to break out and improve.

/ On the other hand, Life


The sport is also insanely more expensive now. Teams' sponsors aren't exactly going to be willing to throw cash at teams that can't put their car on the track.
 
2012-03-18 02:29:33 AM

fatalvenom: UNC_Samurai: Speed isn't terrible, but they're shiatty compared to BBC. I loved streaming the BBC feed just to listen to Brundle and The Chin, but Bob Varsha needs to EABOD.

You sound like a smug Canadian hockey fan complaining that NBCSN coverage sucks compared to HNIC.


Well, Don Cherry and Eddie Jordan DO get their wardrobe from the same upholsterer.
 
2012-03-18 02:31:14 AM
I'm thinking of going o to a F1 race this or next year. I'm thinking of Spa (I'm guessing Monaco would be far too much money) or Singapore. Any thoughts on what would be best to go to (other than those two)?
 
2012-03-18 02:31:41 AM

WhyteRaven74: Tsrwedge: Surfer's was a fantastic circuit.

One thing that made CART so awesome was how many street circuits they ran. And Surfer's was probably the best of the bunch.


Ummm....Elkhart Lake and Mid-Ohio would like a word.
 
2012-03-18 02:33:20 AM

UNC_Samurai: fatalvenom: UNC_Samurai: Speed isn't terrible, but they're shiatty compared to BBC. I loved streaming the BBC feed just to listen to Brundle and The Chin, but Bob Varsha needs to EABOD.

You sound like a smug Canadian hockey fan complaining that NBCSN coverage sucks compared to HNIC.

Well, Don Cherry and Eddie Jordan DO get their wardrobe from the same upholsterer.


Touche, Sir.
 
2012-03-18 02:33:41 AM

carnifex2005: I'm thinking of going o to a F1 race this or next year. I'm thinking of Spa (I'm guessing Monaco would be far too much money) or Singapore. Any thoughts on what would be best to go to (other than those two)?


Keep an eye on Spa - Bernie is talking about alternating it with Paul Ricard (because Bernie owns the company that owns the track, shocking).
 
2012-03-18 02:34:47 AM

fatalvenom: .Elkhart Lake and Mid-Ohio would like a word.


Those aren't street circuits :) those two are permanent road courses not temporary tracks.
 
2012-03-18 02:35:16 AM

UNC_Samurai: Well, Don Cherry and Eddie Jordan DO get their wardrobe from the same upholsterer.


As both a hockey fan and a racing fan, that's farking funny.
 
mjg
2012-03-18 02:35:30 AM

carnifex2005: I'm thinking of going o to a F1 race this or next year. I'm thinking of Spa (I'm guessing Monaco would be far too much money) or Singapore. Any thoughts on what would be best to go to (other than those two)?


Least expensive would be Montreal. Most exciting (and expensive) would be Monaco. imo
 
2012-03-18 02:37:02 AM

UNC_Samurai: carnifex2005: I'm thinking of going o to a F1 race this or next year. I'm thinking of Spa (I'm guessing Monaco would be far too much money) or Singapore. Any thoughts on what would be best to go to (other than those two)?

Keep an eye on Spa - Bernie is talking about alternating it with Paul Ricard (because Bernie owns the company that owns the track, shocking).



If Spa gets taken off the schedule, I will boycott F1 endlessly.

/Will Buxon is freaking annoying
 
2012-03-18 02:39:03 AM

fatalvenom: UNC_Samurai: carnifex2005: I'm thinking of going o to a F1 race this or next year. I'm thinking of Spa (I'm guessing Monaco would be far too much money) or Singapore. Any thoughts on what would be best to go to (other than those two)?

Keep an eye on Spa - Bernie is talking about alternating it with Paul Ricard (because Bernie owns the company that owns the track, shocking).


If Spa gets taken off the schedule, I will boycott F1 endlessly.

/Will Buxon is freaking annoying


Not eliminating it entirely - one year they'd run Spa, the next Paul Ricard.

The tradeoff is they'll likely alternate those terrible Spanish tracks at Barcelona and Valencia. This makes room for tracks like Austin and (eventually) Russia.
 
2012-03-18 02:40:23 AM

WhyteRaven74: fatalvenom: .Elkhart Lake and Mid-Ohio would like a word.

Those aren't street circuits :) those two are permanent road courses not temporary tracks.



Yeah, I'm drunk. Sorry.


/loving the Speed broadcast crew getting a chuckle about Varsha saying "stuck behind a Mexican"
 
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