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2001-11-11 04:58:32 PM
Noam Chomsky is a great linguist, but a lousy politcian. Stick to transformational grammar, numbnuts.
 
2001-11-11 05:00:05 PM
Blows dick? I bet that's not all he does... that anul farker.
 
2001-11-11 05:00:25 PM
He is a nut but in many ways he is right. Though I would not say Americans are terrorists and I would not say the US gov are terrorists.. but what they are doing and what they have done is just as bad as terrorists have done.
 
2001-11-11 05:02:23 PM
S0lidus
No problem, but you have to pay first :P
 
2001-11-11 05:03:26 PM
well, I'd have to say that he is pretty much correct. america has been one of the greatest terrorist countries since world war II.
 
2001-11-11 05:03:56 PM
Yes, he is talking out of his ass, but so are you who go on about faggot this and faggot that.
Both you and he need to grow up and get a frelling life.
 
2001-11-11 05:05:06 PM
Among Chomsky's other great crimes is that he provides documentation for his arguments, which his enemies don't do because it will show who's right. Read a couple of his books sometime.

Chomsky is an anarchist of the Kropotikinist mode. For you Republicans out there, that means that when he says "get the government off our backs" or "smaller government" he's not jerking us off, as have Reagan and his disciples.
 
2001-11-11 05:06:44 PM
S0lidus
Here is an example
http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts/murder.htm
Now go and try and blow yourself
 
2001-11-11 05:06:49 PM
Well done, Chomsky. If more Americans were aware of the terrible acts of war and terrorism that have been perpetrated in their names, we'd be hearing less of this godawful "fighting for freedom and democracy" rhetoric. In fact, monkeyboy Presidents who spouted that shiat would be laughed out of office.
 
2001-11-11 05:07:14 PM
soldius> grow up.

so what if I'm gay? That's my right.
 
2001-11-11 05:08:02 PM
Woo Hoo,
Fag Party in this thread!

Everyone is a Fag!

now, does everyone feel better?
 
2001-11-11 05:09:35 PM
Oh yeah, the targeted killings of several hundred Afghan soliders is a worse crime than the indiscriminant slaying of several thousand US civilians. I can see that Chomsky has as much to add to the field of logic as he does to linguistics.
 
2001-11-11 05:10:06 PM
Arresting people in the name of Freedom
Killing people in the name of Life

Full Metal Jacket "It is about the duality of men"
That is what america is about.
 
2001-11-11 05:10:35 PM
Go Noam! I may not agree entirely, but someone, at least, has to cause us to question the acts of our governments and consider, even for a moment, that they may be wrong. This questioning will ensure the US government dosnt become another taleban.
 
2001-11-11 05:10:41 PM
Chomsky must have a book coming out he needs to promote.
 
2001-11-11 05:11:08 PM
CHUMSKY?? A RENOWNED SCHOLAR??

OXYMORON??


CZAR-"No problem, but you have to pay first :P"
I'll bet it gets pretty lonely in Iceland?

S0Lidus 2pts
 
2001-11-11 05:11:50 PM
this is why the West is doomed
 
2001-11-11 05:12:45 PM
JOHNDX,
Yeah ;) sometimes sucks to live here... you on anandtech?
 
2001-11-11 05:12:46 PM
wow. the current government structure in America seems to be Orwellian. the people don't even know the lies that their government perpetuates!
 
2001-11-11 05:13:12 PM
thought thinking thought, ivory tower academix
 
2001-11-11 05:15:01 PM
haha, the fark article number of this article is 69999.

http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=69999
 
2001-11-11 05:17:02 PM
S0lidus, you said earlier you dont even know who chomsky is. grow up.
 
2001-11-11 05:18:18 PM
So S0lidus, whats an "ordy"?
 
2001-11-11 05:18:55 PM
S0lidus
yeah, lucky us, want to join us?
 
2001-11-11 05:20:04 PM
Hahahaha..

What a tool. WTF is an ordy?? If your going to insult/flame someone, at least get the spelling right.

anyway...

I think that we should try and find bin laden and his terrorist network and all, but the continuing use of "war on terrorism" is starting to bug me. Seems it is being used to the effect of writing a blank check for the defense and government to do what they want in the name of defending us helpless 'American People' from evil dastardly bad guy people persons. Interesting times indeed. I just don't trust the gubment.
 
DIG
2001-11-11 05:21:29 PM
person 1: this is a terrorist countrie
person 2: no it isn't!
person 3: yes it is!
etc...

feels like home...

Dat Israely Guy
 
lbo
2001-11-11 05:23:08 PM
I'll listen to chomsky if I want to hear linguistic academia. That's what he's good at, after all.
 
2001-11-11 05:23:28 PM
Bah.

 
2001-11-11 05:24:46 PM
I'd just like it said, so that it is known, that the people who agree with him and the people who don't both just suck.
 
2001-11-11 05:25:41 PM
S0lidus -2pts for apologizing
 
2001-11-11 05:28:08 PM
S0lidus = Jelloboy?
 
lbo
2001-11-11 05:28:28 PM
Who hasn't been called a terrorist in the past few months, anyway? The US government calls Al Queda terrorists, Arabs call Isrealis terrorists, Isralies call Arafat a terrorist, Muslims call the US terrorists, and the US citizens call afghanis terrorists.

Oh yeah, and now chomsky calls the government terrorist. Who's next?
 
2001-11-11 05:29:36 PM
This is really old. He is correct, by defination we are terrorists (we being America). if you are interested in hearing the whole thing, http://www.nada.kth.se/~d96-jja/chomsky-mit-18oct01.mp3 Check the Date.

anyways IMHO it is worth listening too.
 
2001-11-11 05:29:39 PM
Kukester has the right idea.

Whether or not you agree with Chomsky is almost beside the point. Someone NEEDS to be out there saying those things that will shake up the American ideology of laziness and complacency.

If this is truly a democracy, then we are truly responsible for what our country does in our name. A lot of this recent "patriotism" is really just a front for a bunch of middle-Americans being upset over having their illusions of grandeur and safety taken away from them. It is a far more patriotic act to try and understand the reality of our current situation, what brought us here, and think about how we can fix it.

It will take provocations such as Chomsky's to get people to think and react.

It's perfectly okay to support the home team WHILE holding it accountable for its actions.
 
2001-11-11 05:30:40 PM
SOlidus, you terrorist!
 
2001-11-11 05:31:36 PM
You terrorist whore!
 
2001-11-11 05:32:35 PM
When will the inflammatory posts end?
 
2001-11-11 05:33:32 PM
(begin apathy string)Mr. Chomsky can blow it out his ass for all I care,and the government can have their way with Afghanistan as much as they want.So long as I have my fishsticks and big screen TV I'm a happy camper.(end apathy string)Although Noam Chomsky may have a point(we tend to mess around in world affairs more often than we should,and we do not always do a good job about it),calling our military targeted war in Afghanistan a bigger terrorist act than the intentionally civilian targeted attacks on September 11th is an asinine,inflammatory statement,designed to put him in the spotlight.He may cause us to question what our government is doing for a moment,but does this really do any good,beyond giving Chomskyists a feel good sensation?Like it or not,the US is in Afghanistan,and lighting candles while chanting catchy slogans is not going to stop that,and neither are the beliefs of Noam Chomsky.
 
2001-11-11 05:35:33 PM
Hey all of you that are sitting in your comfortable house throwing jokes into the wind about America. Remember your country can be the next target. Especially France and England.
 
2001-11-11 05:35:34 PM
Chomnsky gave a lecture at M.I.T. (where he has been a professor for like thirty some years) and over 2000 people showed up. I got there an hour early and it was already full. they even filled up two overflow rooms. i didn't really care to see it so i went back to my room and listened to the real time feed. as it turns out i'm really glad it was full. i knew there would be a lot of insipid rhetoric flying around but it truly was pretentious and self-righteous and self-congradulatory and just the biugest waste of time. it lasted two hours and was so farking boring. everyone there was so annoying with their pseudo-sensitive back-patting concerned faces. the whole scene sucked. nothing was accomplished. morons. everyone.
ignorant activits suck almost more than terrorits.
at least terrorits get things done.
 
2001-11-11 05:38:03 PM
having reread the article it seems chomsky is a troll. either literaly or figuratively.
 
2001-11-11 05:38:04 PM
I wonder if his opinion would change if he'd lost an offspring or a spouse in the sept 11 tragedy. It's so easy to criticize those showing emotion -- even if that anger and loss is legitimate. He's a true Starbucks hero.
 
2001-11-11 05:40:56 PM
Blink, murder does never justify murder. Then we just have two murderers.
 
2001-11-11 05:41:01 PM
While it wanted the extradition of Osama bin Laden in connection with the attacks, it was unwilling to grant Haiti's request for the extradition of a criminal wanted in connection with atrocities committed in the Nineties.

Yes, I'm sure whatever that Haitian did was just as bad as what bin Laden did, and I'm sure the circumstances are identical...

Insisting that the U.S. was not a democracy,

That's right, as any astute Gov 101 student can tell you, it's a republic. d u h

...indoctrinated with a consumerist culture of sports, music and purchasing...

In other words, Chomsky is against advertising. Well, more or less; he's against advertising-supported media, because he believes that makes the media's agenda pro-business.

At this point, examples are given such as NBC News being prevented from airing bad GE news since they are owned by GE.

And it all SOUNDS like it falls together, and FEELS fashionable, hating corporations and being anti-business and finding some weird loophole that seems to poison the entire system.

The point where it all fell apart is during the 90s, when the economic boom went on so long that nobody was left unemployed (well, for reasonable values of "nobody", anyway). Saying that business and corporations and the media are all making things terrible is a hard sell, when they seem to be making things pretty good. They made a lot of poor people middle-class, and a lot of middle-class people rich, or at least they gave them a lot of fun toys.

And as far as globalization goes, you'd think the massive success of NAFTA -- which must have created two jobs for everyone one sucked out of the US -- would have shut a lot of people up.
 
2001-11-11 05:41:18 PM
I think a lot of the anger coming from Americans about this war is that we were told that every possible thing would be done to ensure that the Taliban and the terrorists would be the only ones targeted, and that the innocent civilians of Afghanistan would not only be spared, but aided by us. Instead, we're killing scores of innocents over there by bombing everything in sight, hoping along the way that we might kill someone who is guilty. This "new way of fighting a war" isn't anything of the kind. George W. is doing the same thing every other president has done before him.

Yes, civilian casualties are always going to occur in a war. But our government is supposed to be taking added measures to decrease those numbers. Dropping aide packets on corpses is an empty gesture at best.
 
2001-11-11 05:41:42 PM
Perhaps after this war is over our country needs to take a more isolationist stance,since it seems that no matter what we do,we're either villainized for it or it bites us back in the ass.Basically we should leave the UN,remove foreign and multinational corporate aid,and let the world run itself for a while,then we'll see how well they do.It'd probably change the world's tune on us.
 
2001-11-11 05:41:49 PM
Curious: The article kinda warps what he said, Look at my other post where I put the URL to the MP3 of the speech, I disagree with need for tweed, and I found most of it pretty solid, with decent content.
 
2001-11-11 05:42:07 PM
I agree with Noam on this one.
 
2001-11-11 05:43:59 PM
Wake up people! He is right, why can't you admit it?
 
2001-11-11 05:46:02 PM
I just don't think that I could possibly take anyone named 'Noam' seriously.
 
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