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(Yahoo)   Arizona GOP pushing a bill that would bar women from purchasing birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy. Acne prevention though? Go right ahead   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 501
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2012-03-16 09:55:21 AM
And I thought the PA governor's "just close your eyes" line from yesterday was the icing on the cake.

Jesus Christ on a farking Cracker - WTF is wrong with these people?
 
2012-03-16 10:00:04 AM
OK. Then men can't use Viagra for anything other than management of pulmonary arterial hypertension.
 
2012-03-16 10:00:44 AM
FTFA:

"We don't live in the Soviet Union," said the Arizona bill's sponsor, Republican Rep. Debbie Lesko."


I'd say violating HIPAA and forcing private citizens to reveal to the state the reason why they wish to take a medication sounds very Soviet-ish to me.
 
2012-03-16 10:03:36 AM
"I'm taking birth control to help my pinkeye. I'll get fewer infections if he doesn't have to pull out every time"
 
2012-03-16 10:07:40 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: And I thought the PA governor's "just close your eyes" line from yesterday was the icing on the cake.

Jesus Christ on a farking Cracker - WTF is wrong with these people?


They're Republicans. They're awful farking people that nobody would miss if they all died.
 
2012-03-16 10:07:47 AM
"If they're looking for some sort of tussle with the federal government, I just wish they would keep in mind the consequences for Arizona women and families because they're the ones that are ultimately hurt by this bill," she said.

Such a hearty THIS.

While the politicos and pundits play around with this, real people with real needs are impacted.
 
2012-03-16 10:10:08 AM
BurnShrike: "I'm taking birth control to help my pinkeye. I'll get fewer infections if he doesn't have to pull out every time"

+1
 
2012-03-16 10:10:44 AM
At this point, I think keeping some women from severe PMS is protecting the lives of certain politicians that are getting all up in their business.
 
2012-03-16 10:12:22 AM
If I'm the Obama campaign team, I'm certainly putting AZ on the "possible flip" list this time around.
 
2012-03-16 10:12:56 AM
I really think, while we all weren't looking, the GOP adopted self-annihilation as their core value. We're just seeing the ripple effects.
 
2012-03-16 10:15:36 AM
THOSE CLEAR COMPLEXIONED WHORES!
 
2012-03-16 10:19:04 AM
I notice that half the articles about this bill don't mention a specific part of the bill- a part that excises an anti-discrimination provision from CURRENT law, effectively making it legal to discriminate in firing/hiring women who use birth control.
 
2012-03-16 10:19:56 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: FTFA:

"We don't live in the Soviet Union," said the Arizona bill's sponsor, Republican Rep. Debbie Lesko."


I'd say violating HIPAA and forcing private citizens to reveal to the state the reason why they wish to take a medication sounds very Soviet-ish to me.


heh.
 
2012-03-16 10:21:46 AM
kingoomieiii: I notice that half the articles about this bill don't mention a specific part of the bill- a part that excises an anti-discrimination provision from CURRENT law, effectively making it legal to discriminate in firing/hiring women who use birth control.

How odd. It used to be women who wanted to have babies that were discriminated against.
 
2012-03-16 10:23:02 AM
kingoomieiii: I notice that half the articles about this bill don't mention a specific part of the bill- a part that excises an anti-discrimination provision from CURRENT law, effectively making it legal to discriminate in firing/hiring women who use birth control.

True.

The way I see it though, that too would not hold up in court. An employer can only gain that knowledge in one of two ways: Force the employee/prospect to divulge said information, violating their right to privacy, OR, force the insurance company or doctor to divulge said information, which violates HIPAA and doctor/patient confidentiality and will likely allow the patient to sue the medical provider.
 
2012-03-16 10:28:23 AM
And another week of them not talking about the economy.
 
2012-03-16 10:29:06 AM
acner.org

Seriously, you don't want this thing getting preggers
 
2012-03-16 10:29:43 AM
The law doesn't bar anybody from doing anything from what I read.

It just allows employers to not reimburse birth control costs.

the bill would allow an employer who opted out to require her to reveal what she was taking it for in order to get reimbursed.


but keep with the hyperbole
 
2012-03-16 10:29:59 AM
Just force them to wear bukas and be done with it. God damn.
 
2012-03-16 10:30:47 AM
This battle was fought in 1960. Conservatives lost. Get over it or die
 
2012-03-16 10:31:00 AM
mrshowrules: At this point, I think keeping some women from severe PMS is protecting the lives of certain politicians that are getting all up in their business.

THIS.

+gazillions
 
2012-03-16 10:31:46 AM
how about no on that, gentlemen
 
2012-03-16 10:32:02 AM
MugzyBrown: The law doesn't bar anybody from doing anything from what I read.

It just allows employers to not reimburse birth control costs.

the bill would allow an employer who opted out to require her to reveal what she was taking it for in order to get reimbursed.

but keep with the hyperbole


So it's ok for employers to pry into the personal medical records of their employees?
 
2012-03-16 10:32:11 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: If I'm the Obama campaign team, I'm certainly putting AZ on the "possible flip" list this time around.

Don't underestimate the power of the derp side.
 
2012-03-16 10:32:47 AM
So it's ok for employers to pry into the personal medical records of their employees?

Did I say that?
 
2012-03-16 10:32:47 AM
Rev.K: THOSE CLEAR COMPLEXIONED WHORES!

If she's not greasy, then she's easy.

/If her skin ain't clear, she takes it in the rear.
 
2012-03-16 10:33:10 AM
WE GET IT. THEY'RE WOMEN.
 
2012-03-16 10:33:21 AM
"The bill thrusts the state into a raging national debate..."

On a related note, Viagra is still covered without explanation because, well, it's for dudes...
 
2012-03-16 10:33:45 AM
I think the most important thing to take away from this is to acknowledge how the GOP's war on women is totally a MSM fabrication.
 
2012-03-16 10:34:39 AM
MugzyBrown: The law doesn't bar anybody from doing anything from what I read.

It just allows employers to not reimburse birth control costs.

the bill would allow an employer who opted out to require her to reveal what she was taking it for in order to get reimbursed.


but keep with the hyperbole


Employer offers coverage only for BC used to treat illnesses and disorders. Employee buys this coverage. Employee gets BC pills. Employee deals with the insurance company. Why the hell would the employer be involved?
 
2012-03-16 10:34:47 AM
blackminded: Grand_Moff_Joseph: If I'm the Obama campaign team, I'm certainly putting AZ on the "possible flip" list this time around.

Don't underestimate the power of the derp side.


Don't get me wrong, I'd still be shocked if they did flip AZ, though they still kept it relatively close in 2008, even with McSame on the ballot. If they can keep it even closer, it will at the least force the GOP to pour money in there to keep it, taking money away from more critical areas.
 
2012-03-16 10:34:59 AM
Lost Thought 00: MugzyBrown: The law doesn't bar anybody from doing anything from what I read.

It just allows employers to not reimburse birth control costs.

the bill would allow an employer who opted out to require her to reveal what she was taking it for in order to get reimbursed.

but keep with the hyperbole

So it's ok for employers to pry into the personal medical records of their employees?


Yes if they are whores. We must shame the whores. "I'll pay for your WHORE pills, whore, but you have to come in my office and tell me about your sex life. WHORE!"

/Vote GOP
 
2012-03-16 10:35:24 AM

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Good. Our first popcorn thread of the day.
 
2012-03-16 10:35:41 AM
Mikey1969: "The bill thrusts the state into a raging national debate..."

On a related note, Viagra is still covered without explanation because, well, it's for dudes...


the Viagara stuff is a red herring Mikey. There's no legislation pending that an employer must offer coverage that includes woody pills
 
2012-03-16 10:36:26 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'd say violating HIPAA and forcing private citizens to reveal to the state the reason why they wish to take a medication sounds very Soviet-ish to me.

Oh, but they got that particular base covered.... Covered in Derp, but still covered, nonetheless.

"A supporter, Republican Rep. Edie Farnsworth, said it wouldn't because seeking reimbursements is voluntary."

See? All wrapped up with a nice little bow...
 
2012-03-16 10:36:28 AM
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Good. Our first popcorn thread of the day.


You owe me a new soda...and possibly a keyboard. :D
 
2012-03-16 10:36:35 AM
Republicans say it's ok to violate the ethics of medicine.

Think about that. It sets precedent for insurance companies to deny more claims.
 
2012-03-16 10:36:51 AM
Employeres aren't exactly thrilled to have women go on maternity leave. Birth control is much cheaper.
 
2012-03-16 10:37:16 AM
Why the hell would the employer be involved?

They wouldn't be involved. The claim would just get rejected by the insurance carrier.

If my company doesn't offer accupuncture in their plan, and I get accupuncture and submit a claim, my employer doesn't ask me into their office and make me explain why I needed accupuncture.

The claim gets denied. If I want to fight, I got to the insurance company. My employer doesn't even know.
 
2012-03-16 10:37:24 AM
 
2012-03-16 10:37:32 AM
skullkrusher: Mikey1969: "The bill thrusts the state into a raging national debate..."

On a related note, Viagra is still covered without explanation because, well, it's for dudes...

the Viagara stuff is a red herring Mikey. There's no legislation pending that an employer must offer coverage that includes woody pills


That's because most insurance plans already cover it, no questions asked, and no explanations needed by the patient.
 
2012-03-16 10:37:56 AM
isolated incident.

along with the other 2,582 attacks on women by the GOP.

/how any woman could vote republican anymore is a mystery to me.
 
2012-03-16 10:38:05 AM
Fark you, Arizona.
 
2012-03-16 10:38:29 AM
Arizona GOP pushing a bill that would bar women allow employers from purchasing to exclude coverage for non-medically necessary birth control based upon religious or moral beliefs

FTF History

Your rewriting of reality reflects your desperation. Not that the AP did much better with "Ariz. bill could require reason for birth control."

Better still, want to fight a battle in this supposed war on women? Petition the FDA to eliminate the middlemen. Why the fark is this stuff still prescription medicine? It should have been available over the counter for a decade by now.
 
2012-03-16 10:39:07 AM
MugzyBrown: but keep with the hyperbole

TFA
The Arizona bill would also erase a law that bans religion-based employers from punishing or firing workers who get contraceptives from a source other than through their employers' health plans.

Sooooooooo.... Could you point out the hyperbole please?
 
2012-03-16 10:39:38 AM
I keep hearing about how this violates freedom of religion, do we have any data on polls taken of employers and how they feel?
 
2012-03-16 10:40:19 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: "The bill thrusts the state into a raging national debate..."

On a related note, Viagra is still covered without explanation because, well, it's for dudes...

the Viagara stuff is a red herring Mikey. There's no legislation pending that an employer must offer coverage that includes woody pills

That's because most insurance plans already cover it, no questions asked, and no explanations needed by the patient.


whatever the case, it doesn't matter to this situation since it is not mandated by the government. If it weren't covered by most, do you think it would be required? Doubtful.
 
2012-03-16 10:40:20 AM
skullkrusher: MugzyBrown: The law doesn't bar anybody from doing anything from what I read.

It just allows employers to not reimburse birth control costs.

the bill would allow an employer who opted out to require her to reveal what she was taking it for in order to get reimbursed.


but keep with the hyperbole

Employer offers coverage only for BC used to treat illnesses and disorders. Employee buys this coverage. Employee gets BC pills. Employee deals with the insurance company. Why the hell would the employer be involved?



Because it's the ultimate Republican dream: Corporations in charge of every little thing people do.
Their goal is to replace Government with Corporations. Sure they're "small government", but they're "large corporation". Makes it easy to get rid of democracy that way. You know, prevent them poors and minorities from votin'.
 
2012-03-16 10:40:41 AM
Diogenes: I really think, while we all weren't looking, the GOP adopted self-annihilation as their core value. We're just seeing the ripple effects.

I disagree, I thing the Derp base will eat this shiat up with a spoon. These idiots cannot see the broader implications of well anything. They think that by doing this they'll stop sluts from acting like whores. Even if they themselves wind up embarassed in a drug store someday by this law they'll find some way to blame Obamacare because puppies on crack have a better long term memory than these tards
 
2012-03-16 10:41:27 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Jesus Christ on a farking Cracker - WTF is wrong with these people?
 
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