The only way this makes sense is if he knows the Bills are going to draft the RB (new window) from BYU.

In either case, his Lombardi trophy is definately waiting in another castle.

Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

GO BILLS!!

Yay it's that time of year again where us Bills fans think things might change. I like the move if they can give Mario a supporting cast if not the D is still the same bad D.

A wild card this year would be super but I won't get my hopes up.

I guess Manning won't be going to Miami now.

KingKauff: If he says that he signed there to win a Super Bowl, he's a lying sack of cow dung. For once, I'd like to see a player say they signed somewhere because of the money.

Not quite the same but Stevie Johnson did blame god for a dropped pass

I knew that he was leaving town when he entered free agency without a deal or the franchise tag. While 100 million seems a bit steep, even the 50 million guaranteed, he can definately make a difference. But he was also coupled with Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing and JJ Watts, he didn't turn everything around on his own.

Tommy Moo: Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

They have a 1 number WR, he just needs to grow up.

goofycaca: I knew that he was leaving town when he entered free agency without a deal or the franchise tag. While 100 million seems a bit steep, even the 50 million guaranteed, he can definately make a difference. But he was also coupled with Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing and JJ Watts, he didn't turn everything around on his own.

Kyle Williams (injured most of last year) and Marcell Dareus are pretty good. They are interior guys though, and need someone who can rush from the edge.

Tommy Moo: Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

Seriously? An entire offensive line? Their line last year wasnt even that bad considering how crippled it was by injuries. What don't you like about Wood and Levitre?

Chelle82: Tommy Moo: Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

Seriously? An entire offensive line? Their line last year wasnt even that bad considering how crippled it was by injuries. What don't you like about Wood and Levitre?

And Scott Chandler appeared to be a good, average TE in this league (at least in the redzone). You're not going to get a Gronkowski on every team,

Like I said, I guess Williams found out what the playoffs were like last year and decided he wanted no part of that ever again.

Still need a shutdown corner, another WR, and some help on the offensive line.

But not bad. The Bills just solved their most glaring need, and are slowly putting the pieces together.

With Mario, a healthy Kyle Williams, and Marcell Dareus, the Bills probably now have the best D-line in the division. They locked up their #1 WR. They have two RBs who have shown they can really play.

I'm a long embittered Bills fan with seldom good things to say about the organization. But they've earned some kudos. Maybe they are finally serious about rebuilding. Maybe Ralph decided he'd like to see another playoff game before he dies.

As a non-Bills fan living in Western NY, I don't care how much they paid him, it's still a good signing. They've thrown money at a few other big name free agents before without much success; the fact that one is actually willing to sign with them now shows a lot. It's a step in the right direction to getting more guys to sign there. Not to mention, they haven't won a playoff game in 17 years, haven't been in them in 13 years, and haven't even been in the same breath as the playoffs for about 10 years. At this point, they're already at rock bottom. Why not try to make a splash to turn things around?

Lost Thought 00: He very good, maybe even great, but no defensive lineman is worth that much money. From a strict cap-management standpoint, it's a terrible long term decision, and the Bills still aren't going to be competing in the short term

I'm pretty sure the cap explodes in the next few years, doesn't it? Unfortunately, of you want good players, you have to "overpay" for them, especially if you're a bottom feeder. There was no way he was getting less than an older Julius Peppers got two years ago.

Lost Thought 00: He very good, maybe even great, but no defensive lineman is worth that much money. From a strict cap-management standpoint, it's a terrible long term decision, and the Bills still aren't going to be competing in the short term

Not exactly....In 2014 a new TV deal kicks in, this means that the salary cap numbers will also go up by a sizable amount (probably). It's unknown what that new number will be...but a for a team like the bills, it might make sense to take a little gamble now, build up some fan goodwill, and hope for the best in 2014.

Lost Thought 00: He very good, maybe even great, but no defensive lineman is worth that much money. From a strict cap-management standpoint, it's a terrible long term decision, and the Bills still aren't going to be competing in the short term

How can you say for sure that they can't contend in the short-term?

After all, they started out 5-2 with a gangbusters offense before being decimated by key injuries. I don't think Bills management would have gone after a big FA acquisition like this if they didn't think they were close to contention.

Keep in mind teams now have to spend a % of the cap. So when that kicks in teams like the bills are going to have to pay somebody, Would much rather give it in overpayment to get a big name guy here then another teams backups

It's not that much of a stretch for a team to go from 6-10 to 10-6 and a wildcard.

With the parity of the NFL, that sort of thing happens all the time.

Lost Thought 00: He very good, maybe even great, but no defensive lineman is worth that much money. From a strict cap-management standpoint, it's a terrible long term decision, and the Bills still aren't going to be competing in the short term

The Bills have never even spent up to the cap. If they start having cap problems, that would be a step in the right direction. There is no such thing as wasting money until you approach the cap.

Doc Daneeka: Lost Thought 00: He very good, maybe even great, but no defensive lineman is worth that much money. From a strict cap-management standpoint, it's a terrible long term decision, and the Bills still aren't going to be competing in the short term

How can you say for sure that they can't contend in the short-term?

After all, they started out 5-2 with a gangbusters offense before being decimated by key injuries. I don't think Bills management would have gone after a big FA acquisition like this if they didn't think they were close to contention.

Indeed, they were doing pretty well until the injury bug hit. Lost a few key defensive players and had no depth, there goes the season.

Haha, Mario tried to use the Bills for financial leverage, and now he's stuck in Buffalo.

At the very least, the Patriots didn't get him. And Tommy is probably scared to face them twice a year now... Mario only once though because he will likely be hurt for the second game.

bhcompy: Indeed, they were doing pretty well until the injury bug hit. Lost a few key defensive players and had no depth, there goes the season.

They feasted on a lot of flukey defensive plays, and their injury luck made their regression to the mean truly humbling. if they don't draft spectacular, the forecast is more humbling, bitter cold.

The "kill Tom Brady" defense might just work this year

Has Mario Williams ever actually injured a QB? I don't remember it ever happening, yet everyone's acting as though he's this super-monster who destroys all quarterbacks he comes up against.

Doc Daneeka: But not bad. The Bills just solved their most glaring need, and are slowly putting the pieces together.

Indeed - in the long run, this may turn out to be a bigger deal than a certain QB's decision.

Tommy Moo: Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

They're getting there, all right?!

IAmRight: Has Mario Williams ever actually injured a QB? I don't remember it ever happening, yet everyone's acting as though he's this super-monster who destroys all quarterbacks he comes up against.

Here's a recent interview with the super-monster after causing an injury:

star_topology: Haha, Mario tried to use the Bills for financial leverage, and now he's stuck in Buffalo.

At the very least, the Patriots didn't get him. And Tommy is probably scared to face them twice a year now... Mario only once though because he will likely be hurt for the second game.

He was an unrestricted free agent. I know it's beyond the ken of a member of pink hat nation like yourself but unrestricted means without restriction, the restriction in this case being his current team's right to match any offer. He signed with the team that offered the most money.

\Because like God told Reggie White and Albert Pujols, God likes it when you sign with the team that offers the most money.
\\WWJD- evidently grab an assload of cash from whoever wants to give it to him.

themeaningoflifeisnot: IAmRight: Has Mario Williams ever actually injured a QB? I don't remember it ever happening, yet everyone's acting as though he's this super-monster who destroys all quarterbacks he comes up against.

Yeah. Great idea. We always measured how great Bruce Smith was by how many QBs he injured. Not sacks. Not pressure. Not double teams. Just how many QB injuries.

Yeah, who cares? Are injuries-induced a stat now?

So long as he brings some pass rush and helps stop the run, I'm happy.

themeaningoflifeisnot: Yeah. Great idea. We always measured how great Bruce Smith was by how many QBs he injured. Not sacks. Not pressure. Not double teams. Just how many QB injuries.

I'm just referring to some of the tweets from around the league, treating him as though he's really THAT scary. Sacks aren't a big deal, QBs get sacked multiple times in a lot of games.

IAmRight: I'm just referring to some of the tweets from around the league, treating him as though he's really THAT scary. Sacks aren't a big deal, QBs get sacked multiple times in a lot of games.

I remember you knowing more about football than this.

Sacks and the pass rush throw the QB off their game, disrupts the timing with the receivers and prevents the offense from getting into a groove that can tear up defense. This goes along with forced fumbles, interceptions and throwing the ball away. While not a serious injury, a hand hitting a helmet can also cause more than a few problems.

goofycaca: I remember you knowing more about football than this.

Sacks and the pass rush throw the QB off their game, disrupts the timing with the receivers and prevents the offense from getting into a groove that can tear up defense. This goes along with forced fumbles, interceptions and throwing the ball away. While not a serious injury, a hand hitting a helmet can also cause more than a few problems.

Again, I know. People in this thread, too, are talking about how Peyton Manning won't be coming to the AFC East now because of this, and Tom Brady's so scared! These guys take tons of hits all season, every season (okay, Brady didn't take many in 2008 and Manning didn't take any in 2011).

2007 was the only year he finished in the top 5 in the league in sacks. He's hasn't posted a double-digit sack year in the past three seasons, and finished last season with an injury. He did have five sacks last year in five games, I suppose... but 2 against Curtis Painter in his first start, and 2 against the sieve that is the Steelers' offensive line.

He's not THAT much of a difference-maker.

IAmRight: goofycaca: I remember you knowing more about football than this.

Sacks and the pass rush throw the QB off their game, disrupts the timing with the receivers and prevents the offense from getting into a groove that can tear up defense. This goes along with forced fumbles, interceptions and throwing the ball away. While not a serious injury, a hand hitting a helmet can also cause more than a few problems.

Again, I know. People in this thread, too, are talking about how Peyton Manning won't be coming to the AFC East now because of this, and Tom Brady's so scared! These guys take tons of hits all season, every season (okay, Brady didn't take many in 2008 and Manning didn't take any in 2011).

2007 was the only year he finished in the top 5 in the league in sacks. He's hasn't posted a double-digit sack year in the past three seasons, and finished last season with an injury. He did have five sacks last year in five games, I suppose... but 2 against Curtis Painter in his first start, and 2 against the sieve that is the Steelers' offensive line.

He's not THAT much of a difference-maker.

Clearly, every defensive end gets the same amount of attention and scheming by the offense to prevent them from sacking the QB. Obviously Jason Babin is a better defensive end because of he's produced 30 sacks over the past two seasons.

Tommy Moo: Well... It's a start. Now get an entire offensive line, a TE, and a number 1 WR.

O-line? You know Fitz was one of the least sacked quarterbacks last year, right?

TE? Chandler nearly gave Gronk a run for his money before injuries ended the Bills season.

#1 WR? The best WR in the history of the Bills franchise isn't good enough?

Mr.Tangent: Yay it's that time of year again where us Bills fans think things might change. I like the move if they can give Mario a supporting cast if not the D is still the same bad D.

A wild card this year would be super but I won't get my hopes up.

The Bills now have the best D line in football. What more does he need exactly?


Assuming the pass rush goes well, the weakness at CB won't look as bad.

bhcompy: IAmRight: Has Mario Williams ever actually injured a QB? I don't remember it ever happening, yet everyone's acting as though he's this super-monster who destroys all quarterbacks he comes up against.

Here's a recent interview with the super-monster after causing an injury:

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You sir get one internet for mentioning that awesome game.

Bullseyed: #1 WR? The best WR in the history of the Bills franchise isn't good enough?

Andre Reed is wondering WTF you're smoking. And so am I.

Bullseyed: #1 WR? The best WR in the history of the Bills franchise isn't good enough?



Andre just rolled his eyes so hard he has a headache.

Houston team sacks went from a high of 31 in Williams' tenure to 44 last year, where they played most of the season without him.

I realize this has more to do with 1) Wade Phillips being a hell of a DC, 2) Revamped secondary, and 3) Painter instead of Manning...but let's be real, his value is way overstated. I'm not saying he's not a huge pickup for the Bills, but let's stop pretending like they're going to run the NFC East. Their best hope (assuming no injuries) is 2nd in the division and they'll probably still finish 3rd.

Doc Daneeka: Bullseyed: #1 WR? The best WR in the history of the Bills franchise isn't good enough?

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Andre just rolled his eyes so hard he has a headache.

Even Eric Moulds had to sit down for a second!

I wouldn't say the BEST, but #13 has promise. He's the ONLY Bills player to get back to back 1000yd receiving seasons. Ever.

The Bills need the following:
- One solid LT (and guess what there are 3 that will go in round 1 of the draft).
- Another WR, a speed demon on the outside who can catch
- #13 is good but he is NOT a #1...not yet anyway.
- A lockdown CB

Anything beyond that they just need depth. Bills can address all of these needs in the draft easily. Everyone is saying that Mario is and isn't a savior. I'm in the ISN'T category. However, I do believe he's critical to the Bills.

K. Williams and Dareus were double teamed all freaking year because the Bills had no legitimate edge threat. Many, many, many observers of the NFL are saying that this one addition possibly makes the Bills D-Line #1 in the NFL and a Top 10 D overall. The Bills are a turnover making machine, and now with even more pressure from the front 7 I expect those numbers to increase more.

Mario hurt his pectoral last season and some other minor injury in his 3rd season. Other than that he has been perfectly healthy. He is a GREAT pickup and the Bills really made the most sense. He wanted a smaller market, he wanted a family like team, he wanted fans, he wanted to be an important piece to help. He's going to be a superstar here (already is) and has already sold 1000 NEW season ticket sets and renewed 1000 more from fans.

Best pickup in Bills history, and brings validation and a national spotlight back to the city. All good things and well worth the crazy contract.