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2012-03-15 11:41:34 PM  
still 66 here at 10:30 at night. in march.
 
2012-03-15 11:43:17 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This picture of a traffic jam is a photoshop.


Really? It looks just like the Sepulveda Pass.
 
2012-03-15 11:43:35 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 325x347]

See this bastard? I want him DEAD! I want his minions DEAD! I want to see his bruised and broken carcass rolled into a vat of acid!


Threats are dangerous. Even to imaginary characters...

AND, read is dead, threater. Please don't. I am a bear with claws of rage SO deep, that should we meet in the shallows, I will not tarry...

I bite deep.

I claw freep.

;)
 
2012-03-15 11:44:00 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: ARRROOOOOGAAAANT!
[www.telecoms.com image 640x653]

This picture of a traffic jam is a photoshop.


Yeah, it doesn't look right, but it's still a valid representation of reality. If anything, I'd point to the first two pictures as bad shoops. The third is shoop'd, but realistic.
 
2012-03-15 11:53:37 PM  

amerikanespur: Last year we didn't get any real summer weather til august. I guess this is the new normal.


New? I can count on one hand the number of fourth of Julys I had in Seattle that it didn't rain on (and two of them were in water-restriction drought years). Summer arriving as early as August was awesome. And I lived then until I was 24.
 
Oak
2012-03-16 12:03:25 AM  
Chicagoan living in Los Angeles; I see my entire Gloating Season went down the drain, wasted. Now we move into Earthquake without even having a decent Mudslide. Oh, well - I have next Gloating to look forward to!

/Chicago makes out like a bandit under many Global Warming scenarios
 
2012-03-16 12:07:08 AM  
the hotter it is the less clothes fat people will have on

some days you'll wish you were blind
 
2012-03-16 12:07:20 AM  
No, more snow is what you get from global warming. I have this on "good authority."

Really, admit you don't know and clean up the planet just because it NEEDS cleaning. There's no reason to bastardize science to achieve an ideology. We're too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to use our collective resources to get off this rock so we're going to have to rely on this one for the duration and likely forever. The reality is that we can't abuse what we have, this is obvious. However, basing theoretical fixes on theoretical problems backed by shoddy data and political agendas is doing more harm to the reputation of science than is good.

Anyone find any phlogiston yet?
 
2012-03-16 12:08:29 AM  
I live IN the Rocky Mountains at 8,000ft above sea level. I'm looking at the Continental divide from my window, and there's Longs Peak, which is just above 14,000ft. There should be big time snow up there right now. Most of the mountain range should be covered with snow. Today I stood on my patio, staring at the mountains around me saddened to see a lack of snow. A major lack of snow. It's the kind of snow coverage you expect to see in June, when most of it is melting away. I've not seen this little snow up here before. Very mild winter up here.
 
2012-03-16 12:10:48 AM  

Daraymann: 60 in the Colorado Rockies today and NO F'N SNOW.
Mud season is two months early this year. Not good.


That's what i keep thinking. A month early here. My floor is filthy.
 
2012-03-16 12:11:59 AM  

ontariolightning: the hotter it is the less clothes fat people will have on



And the more fragrant they'll be.
 
2012-03-16 12:13:22 AM  
You know what I wanna do?

Blow Yellowstone.

That would be awesome.

That would change everything.

Shoot, the world, i.e. humanity, would never be the same, no?

Boom on a big scale...

Hmmm.

P.S. I suggest you can avert that: make peace and love across culture now; that is all.
 
2012-03-16 12:18:26 AM  

TheJoe03: ShirleySerious: Austin, the Anti-Texas

No it ain't, it's actually very Texan, just a different aspect of the state. That's like saying San Antonio or El Paso are anti-Texan since they are very Mexican inspired cities.


No it's not. It's not like that at all. Austin is to Texas as San Francisco is to Utah. Yes.. I said Utah.

/lived in Austin for 18 years.
//Austin is an Oasis
///So is the Salt Lick.
 
2012-03-16 12:19:18 AM  
I've only worn a hoodie 4 times all freaking "winter". Granted, I do live in South Florida, but I usually get at least a month of 40-50's.

All that means is that it's going to be hot as all fark this summer.
 
2012-03-16 12:21:09 AM  
So is this "just weather" or "climate" because when we have a cold snap, it's always "just weather".
 
2012-03-16 12:21:59 AM  

UnspokenVoice: No, more snow is what you get from global warming. I have this on "good authority."

Really, admit you don't know and clean up the planet just because it NEEDS cleaning. There's no reason to bastardize science to achieve an ideology.


Then stop doing it. Your paraphrasing of what Fox News chooses represent the science as isn't helping.
 
2012-03-16 12:22:42 AM  

kbotc: common sense is an oxymoron: steamingpile: Its amazing all of you are so arrogant to think man alone controls the earth, it has been around for millions of years but for some reason man has had more impact on our little piss-ant time on the planet.

Man, the most arrogant creature in existence.

The arrogance is in thinking that we can do anything we damn well please to the planet with no negative consequences. Most nonhuman creatures know enough not to shiat in their own nests, but some people seem to think such concerns are trivial and uneconomical, and that humans are somehow "above" all that.

Arrogance, indeed.

LOL, we don't even get close to the first critter who modified the global climate. The early O2 creating critters ended up changing the earth's climate a TON.

/They also changed it WAY more than we did.


True, but irrelevant. The fact that some other organisms pumped large amounts of a corrosive gas into the atmosphere billions of years ago has no bearing on the effects of the large amounts of a greenhouse gas which humans are pumping into the atmosphere right now.
 
2012-03-16 12:25:26 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: UnspokenVoice: No, more snow is what you get from global warming. I have this on "good authority."

Really, admit you don't know and clean up the planet just because it NEEDS cleaning. There's no reason to bastardize science to achieve an ideology.

Then stop doing it. Your paraphrasing of what Fox News chooses represent the science as isn't helping.


Oh, so gonna nuke youm metaphorically...

Bam and boom.

;)
 
2012-03-16 12:27:11 AM  
Corpus Christi has not been smacked by any hurricane since 1980, or a big one since 1971.

Mathematically at least, we are long overdue, and a hot dry summer is perfectly conducive to hurricane formation.
 
2012-03-16 12:28:28 AM  

olddinosaur: Corpus Christi has not been smacked by any hurricane since 1980, or a big one since 1971.

Mathematically at least, we are long overdue, and a hot dry summer is perfectly conducive to hurricane formation.


Okay, so you asked for thuis, right?

'Tis yours...

;)
 
2012-03-16 12:30:21 AM  

soupbone: I hate you.


Whistler is my local hill. It's closer than the North Shore mountains in Vancouver and way closer than anything in the interior or on Vancouver Island.

The plethora of good food, delightful female companions, great liquor and top-shelf drugs just seals the deal. I've never skied anywhere else in this province.

(but, yeah, I know that I'm a lucky son of a bich)
 
2012-03-16 12:31:47 AM  

UnspokenVoice: No, more snow is what you get from global warming. I have this on "good authority."

Really, admit you don't know and clean up the planet just because it NEEDS cleaning. There's no reason to bastardize science to achieve an ideology. We're too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to use our collective resources to get off this rock so we're going to have to rely on this one for the duration and likely forever. The reality is that we can't abuse what we have, this is obvious. However, basing theoretical fixes on theoretical problems backed by shoddy data and political agendas is doing more harm to the reputation of science than is good.


Which data is "shoddy" and what are the political agendas backing it?

Anyone find any phlogiston yet?

It's on the shelf right next to the luminiferous ether, but who needs it?
 
2012-03-16 12:32:50 AM  
Well, I fully expect since we missed winter this year it's going to be farking miserable next year.

Two years ago I was under three feet of snow just north of Richmond, Va and the power was out for 4 days, which meant we were shoving the cats under the blankets to keep us warm at night because we don't have a fireplace in the bedroom.

This isn't a statement on global warming - it's my understanding that wild weather patterns are part and parcel of the whole problem. It's a statement that anyone who thinks we're going to have a warm winter next year could be completely, utterly wrong. Given the weather karma around here, next year I'll be buried under 6 feet of snow and the power will be out for 8 days. In June.

Wasn't this year's unusually warm winter on the east coast because of some stream that didn't get pushed down as far south as it should go?
 
2012-03-16 12:35:45 AM  
Naw, the Sepulveda Pass is only 12 lanes across, including both sides with carpool lanes. Now, the amount of traffic depicted is about right (adjusting for the correct number of lanes), based upon my personal experiences having driven that route many times during rush hour.
 
2012-03-16 12:37:51 AM  

santadog: I live IN the Rocky Mountains at 8,000ft above sea level. I'm looking at the Continental divide from my window, and there's Longs Peak, which is just above 14,000ft. There should be big time snow up there right now. Most of the mountain range should be covered with snow. Today I stood on my patio, staring at the mountains around me saddened to see a lack of snow. A major lack of snow. It's the kind of snow coverage you expect to see in June, when most of it is melting away. I've not seen this little snow up here before. Very mild winter up here.


I think Oregon is getting your snow.
 
2012-03-16 12:40:13 AM  
Bugs. There will be so many bugs.
 
2012-03-16 12:41:50 AM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: soupbone: I hate you.

Whistler is my local hill. It's closer than the North Shore mountains in Vancouver and way closer than anything in the interior or on Vancouver Island.

The plethora of good food, delightful female companions, great liquor and top-shelf drugs just seals the deal. I've never skied anywhere else in this province.

(but, yeah, I know that I'm a lucky son of a bich)


Hi,

I want to live there.

Hook me up, son.

Educator rolls...

;)
 
2012-03-16 12:43:06 AM  

Confabulat: Bugs. There will be so many bugs.


Gremlins, really.

Neglect watering.

;)
 
2012-03-16 12:44:26 AM  

Indubitably: Bill_Wick's_Friend: soupbone: I hate you.

Whistler is my local hill. It's closer than the North Shore mountains in Vancouver and way closer than anything in the interior or on Vancouver Island.

The plethora of good food, delightful female companions, great liquor and top-shelf drugs just seals the deal. I've never skied anywhere else in this province.

(but, yeah, I know that I'm a lucky son of a bich)

Hi,

I want to live there.

Hook me up, son.

Educator rolls...

;)


I'd rather roll in deep blue than rue...
 
2012-03-16 12:45:11 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: santadog: I live IN the Rocky Mountains at 8,000ft above sea level. I'm looking at the Continental divide from my window, and there's Longs Peak, which is just above 14,000ft. There should be big time snow up there right now. Most of the mountain range should be covered with snow. Today I stood on my patio, staring at the mountains around me saddened to see a lack of snow. A major lack of snow. It's the kind of snow coverage you expect to see in June, when most of it is melting away. I've not seen this little snow up here before. Very mild winter up here.

I think Oregon is getting your snow.


You are absolutely right about that. Watching the weather channel, you see these fronts just stop dead and hang over Oregon.

Vail did not have enough snow to open the hills up until Mid-January.
If we don't get a shiat ton of rain in the next 3 months, all the rivers, streams, ponds and lakes that these mountains drain into on it's way to the Gulf, and the Pacific.. all you flat landers out there are going to be in a world of hurt.
 
2012-03-16 12:51:13 AM  

foo monkey: kbotc: common sense is an oxymoron: steamingpile: Its amazing all of you are so arrogant to think man alone controls the earth, it has been around for millions of years but for some reason man has had more impact on our little piss-ant time on the planet.

Man, the most arrogant creature in existence.

The arrogance is in thinking that we can do anything we damn well please to the planet with no negative consequences. Most nonhuman creatures know enough not to shiat in their own nests, but some people seem to think such concerns are trivial and uneconomical, and that humans are somehow "above" all that.

Arrogance, indeed.

LOL, we don't even get close to the first critter who modified the global climate. The early O2 creating critters ended up changing the earth's climate a TON.

/They also changed it WAY more than we did.

Which makes it OK for us to fark it up more? Let's take that logic and go straight to Godwin. Hitler only killed 6M Jews, so if we kill some too, that's OK!


*sigh* Are you going to stop using fossil fuels totally? No? OK, then if someone who knows as much as you cannot stop, how do you expect everyone else to? In WHAT way does this count as the holocaust?

/Learn to mitigate, please.
//It's too late, and there's no tech that can stop global warming, not that we shouldn't try (We're going to run out of burnable carbon before we kill ourselves most likely).
 
2012-03-16 12:58:35 AM  
*heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.
 
2012-03-16 12:58:52 AM  

whatshisname: steamingpile: Current shifts does not mean we caused it, global warming has happened eons ago when man was nothing more than a tadpole but for some reason we alone are causing this climate shift

Do you have any idea how ignorant you have to be to believe that?

I guess not. I mean, people have been ignorant BEFORE.


Do you have anything other than circumstantial evidence to support your claim that climate change is directly linked to human activities?

I mean, the climate is constantly changing. Sometimes it can change very quickly.

I am against pollution in general. I think that pollution should be minimized. But pinning it to something as volatile as the global climate seems to be a waste of time. This planet experiences an ice age every couple of thousand years. Do we really think we can micro-manage the temperature of the earth?

I think we should just try not to pollute it as much as possible, and hope that we don't fark it up too much. I'm sure that we have some influence on the planet, but when I see governments committing to controlling the earth's temperature, I know they are full of shiat.

We may fark up the planet, to some extent, but even in the worst case scenario, where every single human dies, the other species will figure it out. It's all a human-based circle jerk that makes us feel important. I'm sure our pollution will matter for a while, but when we're gone, it won't make any difference.

Don't forget how old this planet is. The dinosaurs existed hundreds of millions of years ago. And in hundreds of millions of years, totally new species will exist. We are only concerned about ourselves. Just stop filling the world with shiat, and we will be fine. Just stop making so much shiat. It's that simple.
 
2012-03-16 01:01:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.


Yeah, and?
 
2012-03-16 01:02:02 AM  
Everything seems to be blooming about a month early here in good ol' Indiana. It's nice for now. Makes me fear the actual summer.
 
2012-03-16 01:02:57 AM  

dennysgod: tinfoil-hat maggie: [www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov image 640x594]
/hot
[www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov image 640x594]
/dry

It's gonna be a long summer.

Keep in mind that these NOAA outlooks only talk about the likelihood of above/below normal temperatures and precipitation and makes no predictions about the severity of those departures. Could be that the areas in orange over the next 3 months only have temperatures of 2 degrees above normal, even though nobody would notice that it was 72 instead of 70 the whole time, this map would nonetheless be spot on.


Oh, I know but their last three month was spot on (warmer and wetter for here) and we're forecast for 80+ highs till at least Monday and our frost free date here isn't till April 15th and every thing is budding or blooming so if we get a hard frost, sigh..
 
2012-03-16 01:04:12 AM  

Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.


Very true.
 
2012-03-16 01:11:24 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.

Very true.


*even heavier sigh* Yes, but they're linked. Climate is the best source of weather prediction we have, and weather is the source of those climate models that we use to predict the weather. I know they're very different on a temporal scale, but weather begets climate. A is not B, but (B + C + D + E + F + G + H)/8 is A where C,D,E,F,G ~= B.
 
2012-03-16 01:12:50 AM  
I actually feel sorry for Texas.

/And they thought the drought was bad last year.
 
2012-03-16 01:12:52 AM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: soupbone: I hate you.

Whistler is my local hill. It's closer than the North Shore mountains in Vancouver and way closer than anything in the interior or on Vancouver Island.

The plethora of good food, delightful female companions, great liquor and top-shelf drugs just seals the deal. I've never skied anywhere else in this province.

(but, yeah, I know that I'm a lucky son of a bich)


That's the second time on Fark today that I've seen plethora. It must be El Guapo day or something.
 
2012-03-16 01:14:10 AM  
There is a ski area not far from my house I used to work at in my younger days. Last year at this time they had 377 inches of snow for the season.

This year: 219
 
2012-03-16 01:14:19 AM  

kbotc: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.

Very true.

*even heavier sigh* Yes, but they're linked. Climate is the best source of weather prediction we have, and weather is the source of those climate models that we use to predict the weather. I know they're very different on a temporal scale, but weather begets climate. A is not B, but (B + C + D + E + F + G + H)/87 is A where C,D,E,F,G ~= B.


And I should learn to count when drunk.
 
2012-03-16 01:14:36 AM  

santadog: Bathia_Mapes: santadog: I live IN the Rocky Mountains at 8,000ft above sea level. I'm looking at the Continental divide from my window, and there's Longs Peak, which is just above 14,000ft. There should be big time snow up there right now. Most of the mountain range should be covered with snow. Today I stood on my patio, staring at the mountains around me saddened to see a lack of snow. A major lack of snow. It's the kind of snow coverage you expect to see in June, when most of it is melting away. I've not seen this little snow up here before. Very mild winter up here.

I think Oregon is getting your snow.

You are absolutely right about that. Watching the weather channel, you see these fronts just stop dead and hang over Oregon.

Vail did not have enough snow to open the hills up until Mid-January.
If we don't get a shiat ton of rain in the next 3 months, all the rivers, streams, ponds and lakes that these mountains drain into on it's way to the Gulf, and the Pacific.. all you flat landers out there are going to be in a world of hurt.


Earlier this week there was snow on the Oregon Coast. On beaches, golf courses, etc., in friggin' March. Last time that happened in March was a good 60 years ago.
 
2012-03-16 01:18:59 AM  

kbotc: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.

Very true.

*even heavier sigh* Yes, but they're linked. Climate is the best source of weather prediction we have, and weather is the source of those climate models that we use to predict the weather. I know they're very different on a temporal scale, but weather begets climate. A is not B, but (B + C + D + E + F + G + H)/8 is A where C,D,E,F,G ~= B.


Well it's sorta like this spring and warmer temps have been coming earlier every year it seems and taking each year independently it's weather but when you start to add up 10 -20 years like that it's starting to become climate at least a pattern in the climate although I think I just said what you did but I'm tired and that was to much alphabet soup for me ; )
 
2012-03-16 01:19:58 AM  

epoc_tnac: whatshisname: steamingpile: Current shifts does not mean we caused it, global warming has happened eons ago when man was nothing more than a tadpole but for some reason we alone are causing this climate shift

Do you have any idea how ignorant you have to be to believe that?

I guess not. I mean, people have been ignorant BEFORE.

Do you have anything other than circumstantial evidence to support your claim that climate change is directly linked to human activities?

I mean, the climate is constantly changing. Sometimes it can change very quickly.

I am against pollution in general. I think that pollution should be minimized. But pinning it to something as volatile as the global climate seems to be a waste of time. This planet experiences an ice age every couple of thousand years. Do we really think we can micro-manage the temperature of the earth?

I think we should just try not to pollute it as much as possible, and hope that we don't fark it up too much. I'm sure that we have some influence on the planet, but when I see governments committing to controlling the earth's temperature, I know they are full of shiat.

We may fark up the planet, to some extent, but even in the worst case scenario, where every single human dies, the other species will figure it out. It's all a human-based circle jerk that makes us feel important. I'm sure our pollution will matter for a while, but when we're gone, it won't make any difference.

Don't forget how old this planet is. The dinosaurs existed hundreds of millions of years ago. And in hundreds of millions of years, totally new species will exist. We are only concerned about ourselves. Just stop filling the world with shiat, and we will be fine. Just stop making so much shiat. It's that simple.


It won't make any difference to humans, but why do "we" have to make a difference for everything else that exists on this planet?

If you've ever been to a large city in the midst of a real hot summer, you may have noticed that the heart of the pavement, and brick man made environment.. with it's lack of trees and grass.. shade.. that the temp is higher than that just outside the city where the scenery changes to yards, less pavement, less brick, etc..
That is a micro example of humans capacity to change a climate.

Have you lived in a city at a time where there were no "ozone" days, then over a couple years you started to here about it, noticed smog starting to hang over the city where it didn't before.. and then ozone days started to be declared? I experienced that in Austin in the early 90s. And oh so coincidentally, those ozone days became our record heat days. You can't entertain the idea that the fog of pollution over the city might hold heat a bit longer than if it were to more easily escape the area and disperse? I see that as another micro example of humans impact on the climate.

Now, you take all the town, and all the countries on the planet.. some worse than others.. I can see the possibilities.

Of course there are cycles to it all, but the way I see it, our booming existence since the industrial revolution may have sped up the process of the cycles.
 
2012-03-16 01:21:44 AM  

santadog: No it's not. It's not like that at all. Austin is to Texas as San Francisco is to Utah. Yes.. I said Utah.


Whatever you say dude, but Austin is just a liberal Texan city, big deal. The attitude is still Texan, despite the politics. Ya know, Dallas and Houston are also pretty liberal, but the hipster douches and the ignorant coastal people are too closed minded to understand that urban areas anywhere are and they love dick riding Austin. It's only anti-Texas to those who wish to see the world in stereotypes. If you wish to give actual reasons to why it is so anti-Texas, I would welcome them. I've been to places like SF, Berkeley, and Portland, and they do not have the same culture as Austin since they aren't Texan cities. Austin has Texan music, food, people, and the freakin Longhorns, it's not anti-Texan, just young and liberal.
 
2012-03-16 01:22:03 AM  

kbotc: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: *heavy sigh*

A hot dry summer has about as much to do with "global warming" or "global cooling" or "global climate change" as a cool wet summer does.

WEATHER and CLIMATE are two different things. Altogether.

Very true.

*even heavier sigh* Yes, but they're linked. Climate is the best source of weather prediction we have, and weather is the source of those climate models that we use to predict the weather. I know they're very different on a temporal scale, but weather begets climate. A is not B, but (B + C + D + E + F + G + H)/8 is A where C,D,E,F,G ~= B.


I know, but you and I both know that's not what anyone is talking about when they say crap like "It's hotter this year! Global warming!"
 
2012-03-16 01:22:03 AM  

Daraymann: There is a ski area not far from my house I used to work at in my younger days. Last year at this time they had 377 inches of snow for the season.

This year: 219


Last year was a record setting year for much of the CONUS with regards to snow. This year was supremely underperforming. I'm honestly impressed any place in the US got 219 inches this year. (Excluding Alaska). It turns out the North Atlantic Oscillation has quite a bit to do with the weather for the CONUS and we had tried to look at Southern Oscillation to be the primary driving force. Once again, going back to the "We suck at climatology" aspect of this.
 
2012-03-16 01:22:11 AM  
Guh. I get queasy really easily in warm weather. Nebraska summers are horrible, and I'm not eager for this one to start so soon. Can I have winter back, please?
 
2012-03-16 01:23:21 AM  
I live in the middle of Alaska. I don't think I"m legally allowed to complain, no matter what the weather is like.

HOWEVER, if ya'll Southerners (um, that's everyone in the U.S., fyi) would keep your heat waves to yourselves, we'd be mighty obliged.

I can handle -55F for days in a row MUCH more easily that +90F.
 
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