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2012-03-15 10:04:56 PM

dehehn: I wouldn't really call that a spoiler as it's the same in the comics.

And he had several suits in the last 2 movies.


God, I hope they don't have SarcasmMan in the movies, because you guys would be like you're watching "My Dinner With Andre 2" in 3D.
 
2012-03-15 10:06:47 PM

Mugato: Aquapope: But, yes, it should be a movie. Maybe animated...?

That would be the only possible way to go, unfortunately. But live action, Tommy Lee Jones (although he has the stink of Schumacker's Two Face on him and Two Face is a major character in the book which would be confusing) or maybe in the interest of symmetry, Michael Keaton.

The reason why I brought up Paul Verhoeven (RoboCop, Starship Troopers) is because the book has a real dystopian satirical thing going on, which is his thing. As for "Robin", I'd go with Ellen Page, although she already played a superhero.

But it'll never happen, even in animated form, especially since Superman is a quasi-villain. Maybe an underground project....



ummm ... not sure if serious..? It's coming to Blu-ray and DVD in a few months.
 
2012-03-15 10:08:53 PM

Rush Mountmore: The Usual Suspects reference. Steve Buscemi puts her head in a box and sends it to Tom Cruise.

That was Con Air. John Cusak gets the box from John Malkovitch's jail cell.


No, that was Se7en - Brad Pitt gets Pepper Pott's head in a box from Kevin Kline.
 
2012-03-15 10:17:06 PM

Mugato: But it'll never happen, even in animated form, especially since Superman is a quasi-villain. Maybe an underground project....


Did you read Dark Knight Returns 2. I loved how Supes wasn't just a government lackey, he was a complete tool of his worst enemies, until Bats busts his ass (again) to show we should stand up to that kind of shiat. At first I didn't like it as much as the first DK Returns, but I've read it a few times since and think it's much more politically savvy than the first (9/11, fascist takeover of US, crazy media, and all that).
 
2012-03-15 10:52:36 PM
Sooooooo... where does one sign up to be a stuntman that has his head between Scarlett's thighs, even if it is only for a couple seconds?

/I ask for a friend...
//yeah, that's it...
 
2012-03-15 11:08:29 PM
Oh shiat. Now I actually want to see this movie.
 
2012-03-15 11:14:39 PM
And still no greenlight for making a Damage Control movie?
 
2012-03-15 11:16:21 PM
They still owe me a flying Ferrari.
 
2012-03-15 11:17:24 PM

Iczer: Sooooooo... where does one sign up to be a stuntman that has his head between Scarlett's thighs, even if it is only for a couple seconds?

/I ask for a friend...
//yeah, that's it...


Go make friends with Hank Amos or Jon Eusebio (stunt coordinator and fight coordinator for Avengers, respectively). Attend Dave Boushey's stunt school (new window) and get your utility stuntman's certification - it's about $4500 now. Make sure you work with Michael Chin when you're there; he's a Fight Master with the Society of American Fight Directors and he's the guy who does most of the combat work there (other folks do precision driving, falls, wire work, and so forth). It'll help if you join the SAFD and make your way to at least the Advanced Actor/Combatant rank, with at least 2 consecutive Recommended Passes in Unarmed (since you want to do unarmed combat with Ms. Johanssen). There's your basic qualifications. Assuming you go the SAFD route as well, it'll take about 4 years and cost about $7000 all told.

Oh, and go back in time a year or so to when they were actually casting stunt people for the film. That'll help too.

/but being where you describe is totally worth it, in all honesty.
 
2012-03-15 11:19:43 PM

Mugato: Mentat: Hawkeye is the world's greatest marksman. He can pretty much hit anyone with anything.

Yeah I get it. It just seems like Iron Man could achieve the same effect with some laser sighting. He seems like the Aquaman of the group.


From the trailer I gather that Black Widow and Hawkeye are there because both are trained SHIELD Agents who, while hopelessly outclassed by the actual superheroes, will bring some professionalism to the team. Black Widow is there to be lusted after, Hawkeye is there so the audience has someone to identify with -- he's the Regular Joe caught up in a situation way, way, way above his paygrade.

Also, Hawkeye uses some really and truly badass trick arrows. Not Green Arrow "I put a boxing glove on my arrow to knock out badguys!" trick arrows, but trick arrows that are actually farking awesome. He's a pretty badass character in the comics, especially if you like loveable losers.

In the comics he's the guy who isn't the fastest, the strongest, the smartest (he's often portrayed as being kinda dumb really), or really the anythingist. He's not even the greatest marksman ever (the guy who trained him, Trick Shot, is supposedly better, and the villain Bullseye is definitively better), but he is the guy who absolutely 100% refuses to let anyone tell him he doesn't have a place at the table. He's got moxie, lots and lots of moxie. You gotta love a guy who goes toe to toe with world class supervillains armed with nothing but a bow, some fancy gadget arrows, and a shiatload of can-do attitude based on nothing but a huge chip on his shoulder that anyone, anywhere, might dare think they're better than him.

He's definitely not the Aquaman. Aquaman in canon isn't aware that everyone thinks he's a loser, and DC Comics doesn't run with the "he's a loser" thing. Hawkeye, on the other hand, knows everyone thinks he's a pathetic wanna-be and lives in constant dread that they might all be right, which just pushes him to go further and further past his own limits, trying to get the respect he thinks he deserves.

/huge Hawkeye fan, right here
 
2012-03-15 11:23:31 PM

DarthBrooks: And still no greenlight for making a Damage Control movie?


I imagine from the destruction scene in the trailer, they'll be there working behind the scenes.
 
2012-03-15 11:25:54 PM
Oh, and one other thing about Hawkeye: In his first solo mini-series, a villain called Crossfire tried to kill him. Crossfire targeted him because he knew the death of an Avenger would cause all the other Avengers to gather in one place (Hawkeye's funeral), and because he assumed that Hawkeye would be pretty easy to kill. Hawkeye spent the whole series so proud of himself that a villain was coming after him, and it turned out that he was targeted because everyone in the MU thinks Hawkeye is a chump. That's how much the villains respect him.
 
2012-03-15 11:26:52 PM

9beers: Why does the Iron Man suit have a triangular light at the beginning and a round one at the end?


triangle = MK VI armor (the one from end of IM2)

circle = MK VII (upgraded MK VI)
 
2012-03-15 11:29:16 PM

FightDirector: Iczer: Sooooooo... where does one sign up to be a stuntman that has his head between Scarlett's thighs, even if it is only for a couple seconds?

/I ask for a friend...
//yeah, that's it...

Go make friends with Hank Amos or Jon Eusebio (stunt coordinator and fight coordinator for Avengers, respectively). Attend Dave Boushey's stunt school (new window) and get your utility stuntman's certification - it's about $4500 now. Make sure you work with Michael Chin when you're there; he's a Fight Master with the Society of American Fight Directors and he's the guy who does most of the combat work there (other folks do precision driving, falls, wire work, and so forth). It'll help if you join the SAFD and make your way to at least the Advanced Actor/Combatant rank, with at least 2 consecutive Recommended Passes in Unarmed (since you want to do unarmed combat with Ms. Johanssen). There's your basic qualifications. Assuming you go the SAFD route as well, it'll take about 4 years and cost about $7000 all told.

Oh, and go back in time a year or so to when they were actually casting stunt people for the film. That'll help too.

/but being where you describe is totally worth it, in all honesty.


Also, it helps to not spend much time in school, but teach ladies plenty

/and never be with anything less than a nine, so fine
 
2012-03-15 11:31:57 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost:
Wasp
Ant-Man/Giant-Man
Vision
Falcon
Mockingbird


These are the only listed character I see as being likely to show up in an Avengers 2.

Wasp and Ant-Man are classic, Vision is a walking plot device, Falcon adds a token minority and has easy-to-understand powers (he flies, that's it), and Mockingbird is just a blonde Black Widow.
 
2012-03-15 11:37:20 PM

jaytkay: Wait, I'm confused

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x400]


That just gets funnier every time someone inevitably does it in an Avengers thread.
 
2012-03-15 11:57:04 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Captain Marvel/Photon


They need to include her in a future Avengers movie just to set up a batshiat-crazy Nextwave movie.
 
2012-03-16 12:22:58 AM

skepticultist: Mugato: Mentat: Hawkeye is the world's greatest marksman. He can pretty much hit anyone with anything.

Yeah I get it. It just seems like Iron Man could achieve the same effect with some laser sighting. He seems like the Aquaman of the group.

From the trailer I gather that Black Widow and Hawkeye are there because both are trained SHIELD Agents who, while hopelessly outclassed by the actual superheroes, will bring some professionalism to the team. Black Widow is there to be lusted after, Hawkeye is there so the audience has someone to identify with -- he's the Regular Joe caught up in a situation way, way, way above his paygrade.

Also, Hawkeye uses some really and truly badass trick arrows. Not Green Arrow "I put a boxing glove on my arrow to knock out badguys!" trick arrows, but trick arrows that are actually farking awesome. He's a pretty badass character in the comics, especially if you like loveable losers.

In the comics he's the guy who isn't the fastest, the strongest, the smartest (he's often portrayed as being kinda dumb really), or really the anythingist. He's not even the greatest marksman ever (the guy who trained him, Trick Shot, is supposedly better, and the villain Bullseye is definitively better), but he is the guy who absolutely 100% refuses to let anyone tell him he doesn't have a place at the table. He's got moxie, lots and lots of moxie. You gotta love a guy who goes toe to toe with world class supervillains armed with nothing but a bow, some fancy gadget arrows, and a shiatload of can-do attitude based on nothing but a huge chip on his shoulder that anyone, anywhere, might dare think they're better than him.

He's definitely not the Aquaman. Aquaman in canon isn't aware that everyone thinks he's a loser, and DC Comics doesn't run with the "he's a loser" thing. Hawkeye, on the other hand, knows everyone thinks he's a pathetic wanna-be and lives in constant dread that they might all be right, which just pushes him to go further and furth ...


Hawkeye is, was, and forever will be the farking man. Even if he is being played by Jeremy "punch me in the face as hard as you can, because I always look like a massive douchebag" Renner.
 
2012-03-16 12:26:44 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: ShawnDoc: Meethos: But he's still just a farking dude with pretty awesome aim on a team with Ironman, Thor, Captain America, and the God Damn Hulk. What in the chocolate hell will badass aim do, that they can't?

Look, they only have so many heroes left that they can use. The rights for any mutant, plus the Fantastic Four and Spiderman family of characters are controlled by other studios. And since 99% of all people in existing in the Marvel Universe are mutants, it doesn't leave much left to pick from.

I fully expect an Avenger's 2, with requisite larger Avenger's team to feature such winners as "Guy in a bear suit", "The Garbage Man", and "The barista who makes a really nice heart shape in the foam".

Partial Avengers List minus mutants (for legal reasons, not racism)

Wasp
Ant-Man/Giant-Man
She Hulk
Luke Cage
Captain Marvel/Photon
Ms. Marvel
Hercules
Starfox
Black Knight
Black Panther
Dr. Druid
Sersi
Wonder Man
Tigra
Vision
Moon Knight
Swordsman
Mantis
Moondragon
Hellcat
Falcon
Mockingbird
Firebird
Quasar
Stingray
Machine Man
Living Lightning
Jack of Hearts
Valkyrie
Iron Fist

I'm sure I'm missing some here


Dude! How could you forget Triathlon?!?!

2.bp.blogspot.com

/Delroy Garrett. He's 3-D Man now.
//Actually, you missed Jocasta. She's important.
///And of course, Spider-Man, but Sony will never give him up.
 
2012-03-16 12:51:30 AM

Nix Nightbird:
Dude! How could you forget Triathlon?!?!

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 200x423]

/Delroy Garrett. He's 3-D Man now.
//Actually, you missed Jocasta. She's important.
///And of course, Spider-Man, but Sony will never give him up.


Same reason why I forgot Rage; poorly written and conceived characters forced on the team to increase diversity need to be forgotten.

Jocasta is actually important, but I don't think she'll be in one of the movies.

My bet for who's going to make the cut for future movies:
Wasp, Hank Pym, Ms. Marvel, She Hulk, Quasar, Black Panther

Maybe get a shot:
Falcon, Living Lightning, Tigra, Captain Marvel

No chance in Hell:
Starfox ("What's your power?" "Emotion Control. I make women and men fall instantly in love with me and take them to bed" "So....Roofie-kenisis?")
 
2012-03-16 12:55:30 AM

Mad_Radhu: James Scameron: Mad_Radhu: 9beers: Why does the Iron Man suit have a triangular light at the beginning and a round one at the end?

Joss prefers the round light suit, so there's going to be a scene at some point in the movie where that suit is trashed (probably by either Thor or Hulk) and replaced with a new version of the round-light suit that is compatible with the updated Arc Reactor he built in Iron Man 2. You know how it works with Iron Man.

hey , when Joss is over at your house next week, can you remind him to get me the 400 bux he owes me?
i know you two are close personal friends so...he ain't takin my calls...

The info was from a recent interview I read. (new window)


OH so you ain't on a first name basis....oh that's too bad i might have to call him myself then.
 
2012-03-16 12:56:56 AM
Just for reference, Ultimate Hawkeye (take that for what it's worth) once killed a man while strapped in a chair by pulling off one of his fingernails and flicking it into the guy's throat. Yeah, that's a bit comic booky even by Marvel standards, but pretty much anything is a weapon in Hawkeye's hands.
 
2012-03-16 12:58:00 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Nix Nightbird:
Dude! How could you forget Triathlon?!?!

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 200x423]

/Delroy Garrett. He's 3-D Man now.
//Actually, you missed Jocasta. She's important.
///And of course, Spider-Man, but Sony will never give him up.

Same reason why I forgot Rage; poorly written and conceived characters forced on the team to increase diversity need to be forgotten.

Jocasta is actually important, but I don't think she'll be in one of the movies.

My bet for who's going to make the cut for future movies:
Wasp, Hank Pym, Ms. Marvel, She Hulk, Quasar, Black Panther

Maybe get a shot:
Falcon, Living Lightning, Tigra, Captain Marvel

No chance in Hell:
Starfox ("What's your power?" "Emotion Control. I make women and men fall instantly in love with me and take them to bed" "So....Roofie-kenisis?")


Hercules could work out. Also, maybe Sentry
 
2012-03-16 01:00:24 AM

Aquapope: Rush Mountmore: The Usual Suspects reference. Steve Buscemi puts her head in a box and sends it to Tom Cruise.

That was Con Air. John Cusak gets the box from John Malkovitch's jail cell.

No, that was Se7en - Brad Pitt gets Pepper Pott's head in a box from Kevin Kline.


no no...you're thinkin about the Tonight Show with Kevin Eubanks on the idiot box...

It was Kevin Costner in the batters box in A League of Their Own and Madonna gave him well...you know.


you know what would be good! draping caskets in Avengers Swag! YEAH!
 
2012-03-16 01:03:37 AM

James Scameron:
OH so you ain't on a first name basis....oh that's too bad i might have to call him myself then.


I'm on first name terms with Joss.

I call him Joss. He calls me "He! What the hell are you doing looking through my trash at 3AM!" We're that close.

/Did actually meet him a few times during the writers strike. He's a cool guy.
//Didn't go through his trash at 3AM.
///Well, he didn't catch me anyway...
////Met Harlan Ellison as well. He was actually really nice, despite his rep.
 
2012-03-16 01:33:39 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Ms. Marvel


Could happen, but unlikely. Certainly not in any form recognizable as the comics version. Ms. Marvel's origin story is like beyond weird. I could almost see her getting her own movie, but you could never summarize that origin inside an ensemble film. Plus her powers are...what the fark are her powers anyways? She's strong and she flies, has energy blasts? I can't even remember and I've collected both of her series. Also, no actress will ever live up to Frank Cho's drawings of her.

She Hulk

Too hokey. It works in the comics because her own title is always a goofy comic, but wouldn't fit in a semi-serious actioner. She could show up if they ever do a Hulk 3 though.

Quasar

Way too obscure, plus weird origin, plus weird and hard to explain powers equals never gonna happen. Plus he's bland as hell.

Black Panther

Could happen, but way more likely to get his own film. Wasted in a team ensemble where he'll just come off as Black Batman. He really needs the whole Wakanda angle to shine. Also might be part of the Fantastic Four package since he's originally an FF character.

Falcon

I see this as very likely. He's already on the Ultimates team, and so far they seem to be relying on Avengers who are also Ultimates, plus he has an easy to explain origin and powers (he's a SHIELD Agent with mechanical wings, it's pretty self-explanatory), plus he's a minority so you get the token advantage that Hollywood loves.

Living Lightning

Yeah, right. Sure. Dude, I'm a diehard True Believer and I can't recall a single damn thing about Living Lightning. Way too obscure. ::does research:: OH, that guy. Yeah, when you can be made permanently gay for a three panel gag in the pages of Great Lake Avengers, that's a pretty sure sign you're going nowhere as a character.

Tigra

Costuming seems like it would be nearly impossible to pull off. Making people furry is just really difficult. Making a woman furry and sexy at the same time? I don't think its possible. Also, you want to talk farking weird ass origins, that is one hell of a convoluted story. Demonic cat sorcerer scientists from another dimension use super magic science to ...oh farking hell, I give up. If they could get the costuming right (and I don't see how they could), then I could see them using her with an entirely different origin, but she's such a minor character, I just don't see it happening.

Captain Marvel

Maybe, her powers are kind of hard to explain to anyone who doesn't understand basic physics (and anyone who does understand physics is going to get a migraine from the implausibility of it all), and her name doesn't make a lot of sense unless you really know your MU history (unless she goes by Photon, which makes more sense but is really boring), and I have serious doubts about the ability to actually make an outfit wearable by a human being out of her iconic costume.

No chance in Hell: Starfox ("What's your power?" "Emotion Control. I make women and men fall instantly in love with me and take them to bed" "So....Roofie-kenisis?")

Totally agree with you here. When your power is now understood to be essentially the ability to get away with rape via mind control, you are pretty much doomed.

Mentat: Just for reference, Ultimate Hawkeye (take that for what it's worth) once killed a man while strapped in a chair by pulling off one of his fingernails and flicking it into the guy's throat. Yeah, that's a bit comic booky even by Marvel standards, but pretty much anything is a weapon in Hawkeye's hands.


Which was totally BS, because they ripped that off from something Bullseye did in Thunderbolts like two or three years earlier. It was literally the exact same trick. Ultimate Hawkeye is basically Bullseye in Hawkeye's costume. It pisses me off so much.
 
2012-03-16 01:37:28 AM

AKTurkey: Hercules could work out.


Too much like a poor man's Thor. Won't happen.

Also, maybe Sentry

Too universally despised by Marvel fans. Also too Supermany.
 
2012-03-16 01:45:13 AM

James Scameron: you know what would be good! draping caskets in Avengers Swag! YEAH!


go back to 4chan. you belong there.
 
2012-03-16 01:57:28 AM
skepticultist:


I could see them trying to do Quasar. Just do the Quantum Bands, skip the earlier Marvel Boy incarnation. I could see the brass at Marvel pushing him as a way of 'one upping' DC over Green Lantern. 'See? Our cosmically powered guy that makes energy constructs was awesome.'


Ms. Marvel is also very possible. They simplified the origin in the new Avengers cartoon and they're bringing her onto the team in Season 2.


I put Mockingbird out there since she's such a stalwart, but I think they're going to do the romance between Natasha and Clint, so there's not that much need for Bobbi. I'd still like to see her in the film, though.


Black Panther should get his own film, starring Issah Mustafah. Also, Luke Cage and Iron Fist should get a Heroes for Hire film, staring Terry Crews as Luke; not sure who could play Danny, though.
 
2012-03-16 02:13:44 AM

CarnySaur: I did not know Gwyneth Paltrow was making an appearance. Thanks, Japan!


She's been listed in the IMDB credits for a while, plus the guy who does the voice of Jarvis.
 
2012-03-16 02:26:44 AM

Mugato: Tony Stark gets a box delivered to him....


What's in the box? What's in the box!?!
 
2012-03-16 02:35:22 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Starfox ("What's your power?" "Emotion Control. I make women and men fall instantly in love with me and take them to bed" "So....Roofie-kenisis?")


I'm not even familiar with Starfox, but I loled hard at Roofie-kenisis.
 
2012-03-16 02:45:17 AM

Alphax: RoyFokker'sGhost: Starfox ("What's your power?" "Emotion Control. I make women and men fall instantly in love with me and take them to bed" "So....Roofie-kenisis?")

I'm not even familiar with Starfox, but I loled hard at Roofie-kenisis.


Here ya go...Link (new window)

From the character entry:

Starfox possesses the psionic ability to stimulate the pleasure centers of the brains of people within 25 feet of himself. This power, which emanates from him at all times causes other beings to feel good around him. By concentrating, he can magnify these emanations, provoking such extreme pleasurable sensations that a person becomes highly aroused, euphoric, or totally sedated, as the case may be. When using it at full magnitude he was able to render a captured Hydra agent to be completely enamored with him for month if not years despite having a wife.

/giggity
 
2012-03-16 02:52:49 AM
"He can also draw ire from those who are aware he is using his powers on then, and anger from those who discover he did so to them previously. He received a vicious kick to the groin from She-Hulk when she discovered that he had used his powers to seduce her."

Ow. Careful there.
 
2012-03-16 03:43:00 AM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Black Panther should get his own film, starring Issah Mustafah


Please tell me you don't mean Isaiah Mustafa? The Old Spice Commercial guy? How about NO.

How about instead we have a Black Panther movie starring Idris Elba. How about that? Because that would be farking awesome.
 
2012-03-16 03:52:41 AM

Alphax: "He can also draw ire from those who are aware he is using his powers on then, and anger from those who discover he did so to them previously. He received a vicious kick to the groin from She-Hulk when she discovered that he had used his powers to seduce her."

Ow. Careful there.


I'm tired of women getting the pass on domestic violence. Charges against She-Hulk!
 
2012-03-16 06:48:17 AM
What kind of superhero team-up show is this? There's no wacky kid sidekicks with their talking dog roaming the Hall of Justice? There at least better be a reference to the greatest superhero ever put to film(ation) or this movie will be inked into the annals of film history next to Ishtar and anything Kevin Coster filmed after Avatar...ERRRRRRR, Dances With Wolves:


www.internationalhero.co.uk">

/Of. All. Time.
 
2012-03-16 06:55:55 AM

9beers: Why does the Iron Man suit have a triangular light at the beginning and a round one at the end?


My guess is that because it's all but states that the triangular power-source is a product of cosmic-cube research, it has to do with that?
 
2012-03-16 08:15:57 AM

Mugato: Kurmudgeon: Mugato: He seems like the Aquaman of the group.

That would be Namor, luckily not along for this episode.

I just meant in the DC universe, Aquaman is kind of the load of the Justice League. That's what this guy seems to be with the Avengers.

Whatever, my power went out last night and I read The Dark Knight Returns again. That needs to be a movie. And it has Paul Verhoeven written all over it. Yeah I know. But still.


totally agree...

2 words....

Clint Eastwood

/pleasepleaseplease
 
2012-03-16 09:31:14 AM

Ninepoundhammer: Mugato: Kurmudgeon: Mugato: He seems like the Aquaman of the group.

That would be Namor, luckily not along for this episode.

I just meant in the DC universe, Aquaman is kind of the load of the Justice League. That's what this guy seems to be with the Avengers.

Whatever, my power went out last night and I read The Dark Knight Returns again. That needs to be a movie. And it has Paul Verhoeven written all over it. Yeah I know. But still.

totally agree...

2 words....

Clint Eastwood

/pleasepleaseplease


I'm guessing there will be a lot taken from DKR for the new movie. Look how much BB used Year One. We already know the new film

*SPOILERS*

takes place 8 years ofter TDK. I'm guessing that won't be the only element taken from DKR. Perhaps Batman is getting to old and worn down, and Bane is like the mutant leader? Just spitballing.
 
2012-03-16 09:47:18 AM

skepticultist: RoyFokker'sGhost: Black Panther should get his own film, starring Issah Mustafah

Please tell me you don't mean Isaiah Mustafa? The Old Spice Commercial guy? How about NO.

How about instead we have a Black Panther movie starring Idris Elba. How about that? Because that would be farking awesome.


Yeah, I agree, this would make a fantastic Black Panther movie. Who would you have direct it? What type of feel would you go for?

There are two iterations on television right now with the Avengers and BET versions.
 
2012-03-16 10:10:41 AM

Motogp69: skepticultist: RoyFokker'sGhost: Black Panther should get his own film, starring Issah Mustafah

Please tell me you don't mean Isaiah Mustafa? The Old Spice Commercial guy? How about NO.

How about instead we have a Black Panther movie starring Idris Elba. How about that? Because that would be farking awesome.

Yeah, I agree, this would make a fantastic Black Panther movie. Who would you have direct it? What type of feel would you go for?

There are two iterations on television right now with the Avengers and BET versions.


In it, while serving as an avenger, black panther secretly attends community college on the side to earn a degree in business and begins a high end real estate business. In the end, black panther defeats the movie's arch-nemesis Kony 2012 by making a suspect deal with the blob.
 
2012-03-16 10:29:01 AM
Woo Hoo! All the Hawkeye love! Thanks guys.

I thought I was going to have to come in and explain how good he is but you did that for me.
 
2012-03-16 10:46:51 AM
Seems like a lot of DC fanboys hating in the thread.

Maybe they should re-direct their hate at DC for taking their characters for granted.
 
2012-03-16 10:48:56 AM

Trackball: timujin: Mugato: Ah, Gamera! A friend to children!

So being that it's Joss Whedon I know what Scarlet Johanson's role is but what does the guy with the bow and arrow bring the the table?


She's Black Widow^. She was the same character in Iron Man 2, but I think most people have washed that movie from their mind.

He's Hawkeye^

I liked Iron Man 2. Then again I appear to be one of the few people that remembered that these movies are based on comic books. Comic books.....


Yeah, this. "Iron Man" set the bar ridiculously high; didn't expect IM2 to do the same, but it was enjoyable nonetheless.

/And c'mon guys: Black Widow looking hot and kicking ass doesn't get you going? Really?
 
2012-03-16 10:51:41 AM

Mad_Radhu: RoyFokker'sGhost: Captain Marvel/Photon

They need to include her in a future Avengers movie just to set up a batshiat-crazy Nextwave movie.


Oh...sooooooooo much this. Suggestions?
 
2012-03-16 10:53:37 AM

skepticultist: Mugato: Mentat: Hawkeye is the world's greatest marksman. He can pretty much hit anyone with anything.

Yeah I get it. It just seems like Iron Man could achieve the same effect with some laser sighting. He seems like the Aquaman of the group.

From the trailer I gather that Black Widow and Hawkeye are there because both are trained SHIELD Agents who, while hopelessly outclassed by the actual superheroes, will bring some professionalism to the team. Black Widow is there to be lusted after, Hawkeye is there so the audience has someone to identify with -- he's the Regular Joe caught up in a situation way, way, way above his paygrade.

Also, Hawkeye uses some really and truly badass trick arrows. Not Green Arrow "I put a boxing glove on my arrow to knock out badguys!" trick arrows, but trick arrows that are actually farking awesome. He's a pretty badass character in the comics, especially if you like loveable losers.

In the comics he's the guy who isn't the fastest, the strongest, the smartest (he's often portrayed as being kinda dumb really), or really the anythingist. He's not even the greatest marksman ever (the guy who trained him, Trick Shot, is supposedly better, and the villain Bullseye is definitively better), but he is the guy who absolutely 100% refuses to let anyone tell him he doesn't have a place at the table. He's got moxie, lots and lots of moxie. You gotta love a guy who goes toe to toe with world class supervillains armed with nothing but a bow, some fancy gadget arrows, and a shiatload of can-do attitude based on nothing but a huge chip on his shoulder that anyone, anywhere, might dare think they're better than him.

He's definitely not the Aquaman. Aquaman in canon isn't aware that everyone thinks he's a loser, and DC Comics doesn't run with the "he's a loser" thing. Hawkeye, on the other hand, knows everyone thinks he's a pathetic wanna-be and lives in constant dread that they might all be right, which just pushes him to go further and furth ...


Nail. Head.

/loves me some Hawkeye and his shiat-eating grin.
 
2012-03-16 11:25:25 AM

skepticultist: How about instead we have a Black Panther movie starring Idris Elba. How about that? Because that would be farking awesome.


Except he's already busy being awesome as Heimdall. At least Chris Evans was recast as a second Marvel character out of the FF series, which Marvel doesn't have the rights to, so that version of Human Torch and this version of Captain America can't meet one another.
 
2012-03-16 11:29:05 AM
P.S. Cap's shield is made of vibranium in the movies, and Black Panther is one of the IM2 easter eggs.

/Michael Jai White
//even better, Jaleel White
 
2012-03-16 12:49:45 PM

Trocadero: It makes you wonder. When Fox signed their X-Men deal, Marvel Studios couldn't use any mutants in their movies. Fox has all movie rights to any Marvel Mutants. However, when they signed that deal, Namor wasn't a mutant. He's now a mutant. So, would he be fair game in a Marvel Studios movie? Or what about Wasp? Normally, she's not a mutant, but she was a mutant in the Ultimate universe (you know, the one w/ the black Nick Fury). So, if a non-mutant all of a sudden becomes a mutant, who is allowed to make a movie about them?


I would think that in lieu of "Mutants" any contract between Fox & Marvel stipulates specifically which characters film rights are owned by which company.
If not, Marvel could simply put out a new books centered on Earth 40, which is entirely cow-based and the x-men, et. al. are MOOtants - thereby invalidating Fox's film rights...

What we really needs a comic's lawyer to answer this question. Someone get me Matt Murdock!
 
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