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2012-03-15 01:57:45 PM
Is Texas constitutional?
 
2012-03-15 02:07:33 PM
Republicans.
 
2012-03-15 02:14:28 PM
US to Texas: Please secede
 
2012-03-15 02:15:10 PM
Of course they are, how else can you keep the dusky races from voting?
 
2012-03-15 02:16:22 PM
Texas to SCOTUS: Voting rights are Letting Democrats vote is unconstitutional  
 
2012-03-15 02:19:12 PM
mlkshk.com
 
2012-03-15 02:19:49 PM
Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option. I cannot keep up with all the crazy things our politicians are trying to make stick, and I'm afraid people will get so used to it, they'll stop caring and stop fighting it until it's too late.

We've all but resigned ourselves to the TSA, for example... we'll resign ourselves to anything. I don't really want to live in these manaics' happylands.
 
2012-03-15 02:23:12 PM

serpent_sky: Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option. I cannot keep up with all the crazy things our politicians are trying to make stick, and I'm afraid people will get so used to it, they'll stop caring and stop fighting it until it's too late.


Go look up how Harper is running Canada right now. They have a super right wing, evangelical government right now
 
2012-03-15 02:23:44 PM

propasaurus: Letting Democrats vote


Sounds like voter fraud.
 
2012-03-15 02:25:05 PM
I don't want to live in this state anymore!
 
2012-03-15 02:26:57 PM
Yeah Texas, you tell 'em. Sure, you've had a history of racially divisive laws. But those were mistake, and one can hardly hold the current incarnation of the Lone Star State responsible for the oversights of old. This voter ID law has no racial animus or political aim, and the federal government should totally take your word for it.
 
2012-03-15 02:30:25 PM
Surprisingly enough, this story did not come in a time warp from 1850.
 
2012-03-15 02:32:29 PM

serpent_sky: Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option. I cannot keep up with all the crazy things our politicians are trying to make stick, and I'm afraid people will get so used to it, they'll stop caring and stop fighting it until it's too late.

We've all but resigned ourselves to the TSA, for example... we'll resign ourselves to anything. I don't really want to live in these manaics' happylands.


Don't run. Fight.
 
2012-03-15 02:34:11 PM
The problem with democracy is that people participate.
 
2012-03-15 02:39:13 PM

FloydA: Don't run. Fight.


I love the thought of that, but honestly... I don't even know where to begin, beyond "running my mouth on the Internet".
 
2012-03-15 02:41:38 PM
Funny how the folks who scream about voter fraud are never able to point out any widespread voter fraud at the polls, which would justify the measures they are proposing.

It's almost like they have some other reason for demanding everyone show ID to vote that they don't want to articulate to the public.
 
2012-03-15 02:42:16 PM

SnakeLee: serpent_sky: Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option. I cannot keep up with all the crazy things our politicians are trying to make stick, and I'm afraid people will get so used to it, they'll stop caring and stop fighting it until it's too late.

Go look up how Harper is running Canada right now. They have a super right wing, evangelical government right now


Which is still to the left of the US.
 
2012-03-15 02:48:03 PM
Pay attention to the headline, children, this is how ye troll
 
2012-03-15 02:48:10 PM

serpent_sky: Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option.


We have lots of room!

Lots of frozen, snow-filled, cold-as-f*ck room.
 
2012-03-15 02:50:27 PM

serpent_sky: FloydA: Don't run. Fight.

I love the thought of that, but honestly... I don't even know where to begin, beyond "running my mouth on the Internet".


Shoot me an email (EIP), let me know which congressional district you live in, and I'll send you some contact information.
 
2012-03-15 02:56:35 PM

FloydA: Shoot me an email (EIP), let me know which congressional district you live in, and I'll send you some contact information.


Oh, I have all of that information and happily write letters and make phone calls to them. I also live in NY, so usually, I'm in agreement with my representatives, as much as one can be, anyway. We don't have it so bad at the top in this state, though I was dismayed that not a single one of them answered anything I wrote about SOPA and the like.

I dislike not getting an answer since I don't just use form letters and slap my name and address on there. I take the time to actually write something and feel it deserves at least some response. As I always say, when true, "I voted for you and would like to continue to do so in the future, with faith that you vote in line with the wants and needs of your constituents." Ignoring me doesn't do much to encourage me to do so.

I wish I could run for office of some sort, but unfortunately, a fairly broke chick who works full-time and is otherwise the singer of a punk band isn't exactly a viable political candidate -- unless I want to go hang with Supreme Vermin and The Rent is Too Damned High Guy.
 
2012-03-15 03:03:45 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Which is still to the left of the US.


Harper is the equivalent of electing Santorum. Obama is to the left of Canada's PM and most of Europe's heads of state at this point
 
2012-03-15 03:29:29 PM

serpent_sky: FloydA: Shoot me an email (EIP), let me know which congressional district you live in, and I'll send you some contact information.

Oh, I have all of that information and happily write letters and make phone calls to them. I also live in NY, so usually, I'm in agreement with my representatives, as much as one can be, anyway. We don't have it so bad at the top in this state, though I was dismayed that not a single one of them answered anything I wrote about SOPA and the like.

I dislike not getting an answer since I don't just use form letters and slap my name and address on there. I take the time to actually write something and feel it deserves at least some response. As I always say, when true, "I voted for you and would like to continue to do so in the future, with faith that you vote in line with the wants and needs of your constituents." Ignoring me doesn't do much to encourage me to do so.

I wish I could run for office of some sort, but unfortunately, a fairly broke chick who works full-time and is otherwise the singer of a punk band isn't exactly a viable political candidate -- unless I want to go hang with Supreme Vermin and The Rent is Too Damned High Guy.



I was actually thinking of more local activism. Your Senators and Representatives (even at the state level) are effectively isolated from most voters, simply by the nature of their jobs. Letters to them are important, but if you want to get something done, you need to get involved at the district level. While it's not true that all politics is local, that's the scale where an individual can have the most influence. Get to know your precinct captain, and go to your local "Drinking Liberally" meetings (if you drink), those are good ways to get to know your neighbors who are also interested in politics. The national scale stuff is built out of lots of small-scale stuff, and in most places, local precincts are absolutely desperate for people. You're one of millions of people represented by your US Senators, but you may be only one of a dozen or so people involved in your local precinct, and that gives your voice much more influence.
 
2012-03-15 03:54:59 PM

cman: Pay attention to the headline, children, this is how ye troll


More accurate headline would be SORRY ILLEGALS NO ILLEGAL VOTE FRAUD

but you wont see a headline like that getting greenlit on the msm media lib website fark.com
 
2012-03-15 03:57:07 PM
This republican bullshiat is the reason I'm working on getting my Ontario bar license now. I need to get the hell out of this place before they turn it up to 12. There's no way to fight anymore. Most of the moderates have become discouraged, disillusioned and apathetic. The far left wing is by and large not militant, nor am I. It's impossible to fight a war without an army, and there's nowhere near enough people to stem the tide of militant right wing idiots coming into our political system.
 
2012-03-15 03:58:00 PM

wedun: cman: Pay attention to the headline, children, this is how ye troll

More accurate headline would be SORRY ILLEGALS NO ILLEGAL VOTE FRAUD

but you wont see a headline like that getting greenlit on the msm media lib website fark.com


I can't take anyone seriously who uses the term "msm media" and "lib"
 
2012-03-15 03:58:10 PM
Oh, so we're doing this now

/sigh
 
2012-03-15 03:58:34 PM

serpent_sky: We've all but resigned ourselves to the TSA, for example... we'll resign ourselves to anything. I don't really want to live in these manaics' happylands.


Speak for yourself. I used to fly 6-8 times a year but now I drive.
 
2012-03-15 03:59:07 PM

FloydA: serpent_sky: FloydA: Shoot me an email (EIP), let me know which congressional district you live in, and I'll send you some contact information.

Oh, I have all of that information and happily write letters and make phone calls to them. I also live in NY, so usually, I'm in agreement with my representatives, as much as one can be, anyway. We don't have it so bad at the top in this state, though I was dismayed that not a single one of them answered anything I wrote about SOPA and the like.

I dislike not getting an answer since I don't just use form letters and slap my name and address on there. I take the time to actually write something and feel it deserves at least some response. As I always say, when true, "I voted for you and would like to continue to do so in the future, with faith that you vote in line with the wants and needs of your constituents." Ignoring me doesn't do much to encourage me to do so.

I wish I could run for office of some sort, but unfortunately, a fairly broke chick who works full-time and is otherwise the singer of a punk band isn't exactly a viable political candidate -- unless I want to go hang with Supreme Vermin and The Rent is Too Damned High Guy.


I was actually thinking of more local activism. Your Senators and Representatives (even at the state level) are effectively isolated from most voters, simply by the nature of their jobs. Letters to them are important, but if you want to get something done, you need to get involved at the district level. While it's not true that all politics is local, that's the scale where an individual can have the most influence. Get to know your precinct captain, and go to your local "Drinking Liberally" meetings (if you drink), those are good ways to get to know your neighbors who are also interested in politics. The national scale stuff is built out of lots of small-scale stuff, and in most places, local precincts are absolutely desperate for people. You're one of millions of people represent ...


This right here. Local politics are probably the easiest place to get involved, and they do need the help. I jokingly wrote myself in for Committeeman in the 2010 elections and won, and it has been a real eye opening experience. Also, decisions made on the local/state level will likely have a greater impact on you than ones at a federal level.
 
2012-03-15 04:00:14 PM
Since Texas was illegally annexed by the USA from Mexico, instead of properly stolen from the Indians, can we just give it back?
 
2012-03-15 04:00:20 PM
www.dreamstime.com
 
2012-03-15 04:00:38 PM

wedun: cman: Pay attention to the headline, children, this is how ye troll

More accurate headline would be SORRY ILLEGALS NO ILLEGAL VOTE FRAUD

but you wont see a headline like that getting greenlit on the msm media lib website fark.com



You tell 'em, Sparky!

i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-15 04:02:51 PM
Well then.
 
2012-03-15 04:03:32 PM
"exceeds the enumerated powers of Congress and conflicts with Article IV of the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment."

www.bolgernow.com
 
2012-03-15 04:04:09 PM
Once again the Republicans think they are being clever and will screw themselves harder then their worst enemy ever could.
 
2012-03-15 04:04:12 PM

SnakeLee: serpent_sky: Every day, Canada looks like a more and more appealing option. I cannot keep up with all the crazy things our politicians are trying to make stick, and I'm afraid people will get so used to it, they'll stop caring and stop fighting it until it's too late.

Go look up how Harper is running Canada right now. They have a super right wing, evangelical government right now


Now with election fraud and voter suppression! Thanks, GOP!
 
2012-03-15 04:09:05 PM

keylock71: Funny how the folks who scream about voter fraud are never able to point out any widespread voter fraud at the polls, which would justify the measures they are proposing.


Yep, in a world where congress has like a 9% approval rating the democrats have legions of people willing to commit a federal felony so they each could get an extra vote for them. Seems reasonable...
 
2012-03-15 04:09:21 PM
It's always the farking 10th amendment with these cockholes. Just admit it; you want to force voters to buy a state ID because you want to disenfranchise people who can't afford to pay for them, like the poor (all races), the indigent (homeless or elderly), or anyone else who doesn't "look" like a voter to you. Just come out with it, own it, and we'll loathe you less than when you couch behind either "STATES RIGHTS!!11!!" or "ZOMG THE 10TH AMENDMENT!!11!!"
 
2012-03-15 04:10:09 PM

keylock71: Funny how the folks who scream about voter fraud are never able to point out any widespread voter fraud at the polls, which would justify the measures they are proposing.


i believe the statistic is that you're more likely to get hit with lightning than commit voter fraud in the US. so yes, its important we make these laws.

whar jobs bill? whar?
 
2012-03-15 04:13:13 PM
Is the purpose of this to prevent non-citizens from voting?

Do non-citizens get to vote anyway?

How does one normally prove citizenship if not with some kind of ID?
 
2012-03-15 04:15:22 PM
I don't see why it's a problem to show identification to vote. If you are a legal citizen you should have ID anyway. Now, if I supported voter fraud and wanted illegals to vote I would be upset at having to prove a legal right to vote. It seems pretty black and white. You are either for or against voter fraud.

/Democrat
 
2012-03-15 04:15:25 PM
The easy solution is for the Federal Government to just say "Ok, fine, you states can implement all the voter ID laws you want - with the caveat that any state with voter ID laws will not have their electoral college votes counted."
 
2012-03-15 04:16:36 PM

scarmig: Do non-citizens get to vote anyway?


no they just get to influence our elections with money.
 
2012-03-15 04:17:40 PM

Mija: I don't see why it's a problem to show identification to vote.


Because it's unnecessary. Voter ID laws are a solution in search of a problem.
 
2012-03-15 04:18:15 PM

Famous Thamas: This right here. Local politics are probably the easiest place to get involved, and they do need the help. I jokingly wrote myself in for Committeeman in the 2010 elections and won, and it has been a real eye opening experience. Also, decisions made on the local/state level will likely have a greater impact on you than ones at a federal level.


Local politics is how Republicans are able to do all of this. Half of these people don't even have college degrees or any political experience whatsoever, they just believe in their ideals and have the courage to get involved. Liberals complain and don't vote, then don't get any representation at any level, then they complain that they don't have representation. The only good part is I am able to get awesome board positions in a major city at 29.
 
2012-03-15 04:18:45 PM

scarmig: Is the purpose of this to prevent non-citizens from voting?

Do non-citizens get to vote anyway?

How does one normally prove citizenship if not with some kind of ID?


As I understand it, most states do not offer state ID cards free of charge. Meaning, one needs to go to the DMV with all necessary documentation, which some people may not have, and buy them. Putting laws on the books requiring people to present a state ID in order to vote is no different than a poll tax, if the state ID is not provided to anyone who wants one at no cost to them.

The purpose of this isn't to prevent non-citizens from voting, it's to disenfranchise certain groups of voters by making the hoops they have to jump through in order to vote, difficult if not impossible to get through.
 
2012-03-15 04:19:34 PM
We just need to kick Texas and the rest of the old confederacy out of the United States. Would improve the country to a great degree.
 
2012-03-15 04:19:36 PM

Mija: I don't see why it's a problem to show identification to vote



If they make a state or national id card, and make it free, then it won't be a problem. Otherwise, no matter how you spin it, you are charging people to vote which is not at all legal no way no how...
 
2012-03-15 04:20:47 PM

Mija: If you are a legal citizen you should have ID anyway.


Spoken like someone who has a drivers license.
 
2012-03-15 04:22:16 PM

Mija: I don't see why it's a problem to show identification to vote. If you are a legal citizen you should have ID anyway. Now, if I supported voter fraud and wanted illegals to vote I would be upset at having to prove a legal right to vote. It seems pretty black and white. You are either for or against voter fraud.

/Democrat


Are you going to buy mine for me? Because I'm not paying the state for the right to vote... and no you don't need to "show your papers" in this country--yet
 
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