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(ESPN)   Dwight Howard to Orlando Magic: "On second thought I think I would like to stay in Orlando now"   (espn.go.com) divider line 118
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2012-03-15 12:52:32 PM  
and yet in the very same article they state he didnt fully understand the ETO and isnt going to sign it...
 
2012-03-15 12:54:04 PM  
I can't wait for this drama to be over. He wants to be traded, then calls a team meeting and says he's all in, then "doesn't realize" what he was committing to and won't sign, and now he wants to stay again. Who is advising these guys? Careful what you wish for Dwight...look at Carmelo.
 
2012-03-15 01:06:10 PM  

markyp09: I can't wait for this drama to be over. He wants to be traded, then calls a team meeting and says he's all in, then "doesn't realize" what he was committing to and won't sign, and now he wants to stay again. Who is advising these guys? Careful what you wish for Dwight...look at Carmelo.


He's getting his advice from God, if you listen to Dwight. God wants him to stay in Orlando.

God pointed out Orlando can pay him more.

That's the way it is with God, he's all about the Benjamins. Just ask Albert Pujols or, if you can get a hold of a good medium, Reggie White.
 
2012-03-15 01:06:39 PM  
This guy...I don't think he's an attention whore like other Gunslingers or Kings out there. But he has this amazing knack for saying the wrong things at every opportunity. It's verbal slapstick. If he had stopped to take a breath once in a while (or just refuse to answer reporters when pressed for an answer) the world wouldn't be utterly tired of him by now.
 
2012-03-15 01:08:44 PM  
Is he retarded? I don't mean that in a "makes bad decisions" way, I mean that in the "significantly impaired cognitive function" way. It would kind of make sense if he's a mental 12 year old in a huge body.
 
2012-03-15 01:11:12 PM  
The balls on this guy. I tells ya!
 
2012-03-15 01:12:07 PM  
He's afraid of exiting in such way and end up looking like villain a la 'melo and Lebron... too bad all this flip-flopping is pissing everyone off, including the fans

He's really dense... like when he was criticizing his teammates for not playing harder, for not committing earlier this season, when everyone was like "what's the point? every city you visit, you say you'd love to play for them -- why should I bust my ass to make you look good?"
 
2012-03-15 01:25:38 PM  
IMO, he's the polar opposite of LeBron; just as annoying and distracting, but it's completely unintentional. I hates me some Stephen A. Smith, but he was going off on DHoward this morning on ESPN and for once, I thought his hyperbole was justified.
 
2012-03-15 01:26:55 PM  

you have pee hands: Is he retarded? I don't mean that in a "makes bad decisions" way, I mean that in the "significantly impaired cognitive function" way. It would kind of make sense if he's a mental 12 year old in a huge body.


Overall, it sounds like he doesn't know what he wants. More specifically, he's stuck in a no win situation. He saw what happened to James - playing coy with everybody saying he'll make his decision when the time comes and getting killed for it. And he saw what happened in Denver with 'Melo being honest and straightforward with everybody about his intensions and desires and getting killed for it.

To make matters worse, he's in a reasonably good basketball and living situation. Cleveland was run by total idiots. Denver was caught in an insanely deep Western Conference. In Orlando he'll always have a chance to reach the NBA Championship - the team is built well. No income tax in Florida. Plenty of outside opportunities (you know that whole Disney thing). And good weather.
 
2012-03-15 01:31:15 PM  
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2012-03-15 01:35:25 PM  

Dinobot: He's afraid of exiting in such way and end up looking like villain a la 'melo and Lebron... too bad all this flip-flopping is pissing everyone off, including the fans

He's really dense... like when he was criticizing his teammates for not playing harder, for not committing earlier this season, when everyone was like "what's the point? every city you visit, you say you'd love to play for them -- why should I bust my ass to make you look good?"


This is way beyond Melo and LeBron territory now. Way worse. GM's in several stories I've read have called it a "historic debacle".

At least with Melo, he said from the jump that he wanted to go to the Knicks and wouldn't sign an extension. And while LeBron looked like a fool with the Decision special, at least everyone knew that he was going to test free agency after that season.

Howard basically admitted that he was a puppet throughout this situation, saying he had received "bad advice". This really shows me how mentally weak the guy is. He couldn't handle the confrontation at any point in the process.

Now I think he has to stay long term. I don't see how Deron Williams is going to stay with the Nets with no one to put next to him, so he's probably going home to Dallas.
 
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2012-03-15 01:36:19 PM  

StubhyGraham: The balls on this guy. I tells ya!


if he had balls, he would stuck to his guns.
 
2012-03-15 01:37:12 PM  
Second thought? More like 15th thought.
 
2012-03-15 01:51:52 PM  
I love how people will bash LeBron (who said he was going to wait until after his contract was up before making a decision as to where he wanted to go) and think Howard is a good guy.

Newsflash: Howard also has 0 titles, despite having had a VASTLY superior team to any of Cleveland's teams around LeBron. He also has underachieved. He wants to go to a big city to be with other stars. He can't even be on the floor most of the time in clutch situations because his free throw shooting is so awful. He claims to be a hardcore Christian then knocks up a dance team member. He whines as much as anyone in the league about calls, gets more calls than anyone, throws elbows at people's heads intentionally...and he's considered a good guy.

He rips off the same nickname as the last good Orlando center and yet isn't half as good as the original. He wants to be traded, then he doesn't want to, then he demands it, then he says he's happy where he is. And yet you jackwagons think he's a great guy.

And maybe he is, off the court. Lord knows we don't have people stalking him every time he goes out to find out if he didn't tip enough or his friends are rude, so maybe we don't know about this.

But when it comes to basketball, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA. It's not hard to block a lot of shots when you're never assigned to guard a man, you're always just floating around the rim because your opponent is never a threat. Zone defense is for sissies.
 
2012-03-15 01:53:23 PM  
FFS. Dwight's constant waffling and overcompensating to try and save his image is bad enough, but the fact Otis Smith is still the GM of the team has me somewhat convinced that whatever happens, to either Dwight or the team itself, will be catastrophically bad and have repercussions that make that of the Chernobyl meltdown look mundane in comparison.
 
2012-03-15 01:54:43 PM  
As a fan of the Magic, I just want him to make up his farking mind before the deadline.

He stays, great. He doesn't want to stay? Also great, move him for some pieces to keep teh team strong.
 
2012-03-15 01:59:04 PM  

IAmRight: I love how people will bash LeBron (who said he was going to wait until after his contract was up before making a decision as to where he wanted to go) and think Howard is a good guy.

Newsflash: Howard also has 0 titles, despite having had a VASTLY superior team to any of Cleveland's teams around LeBron. He also has underachieved. He wants to go to a big city to be with other stars. He can't even be on the floor most of the time in clutch situations because his free throw shooting is so awful. He claims to be a hardcore Christian then knocks up a dance team member. He whines as much as anyone in the league about calls, gets more calls than anyone, throws elbows at people's heads intentionally...and he's considered a good guy.

He rips off the same nickname as the last good Orlando center and yet isn't half as good as the original. He wants to be traded, then he doesn't want to, then he demands it, then he says he's happy where he is. And yet you jackwagons think he's a great guy.

And maybe he is, off the court. Lord knows we don't have people stalking him every time he goes out to find out if he didn't tip enough or his friends are rude, so maybe we don't know about this.

But when it comes to basketball, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA. It's not hard to block a lot of shots when you're never assigned to guard a man, you're always just floating around the rim because your opponent is never a threat. Zone defense is for sissies.


I don't care, I just want him to be somewhere that'll prevent the Heat/James from winning a title
 
2012-03-15 02:00:40 PM  
Guys with barely more than a High School education are confused by the inner workings of a contract !? Unpossible! Especially when they surround themselves with people who only really care about the dollas'.

Its part of the reason I think its dumb for kids to not play in college for a couple years. You might be good enough to make it in the pros, but the education or lack of it, will factor into your life sooner or later.
 
2012-03-15 02:01:03 PM  
I don't know, most of the reaction I've heard from Dwight waffling this way and that way has been "You know, I don't think I like this dude anymore. Pick and shut up already."
 
2012-03-15 02:05:25 PM  
Is this the Sidney Crosby Episode 3: Revenge of the wrist shot thread?
 
2012-03-15 02:08:20 PM  

konigsforst: I don't care, I just want him to be somewhere that'll prevent the Heat/James from winning a title


He really has nothing to do with it. Howard is a joke.

robsul82: I don't know, most of the reaction I've heard from Dwight waffling this way and that way has been "You know, I don't think I like this dude anymore. Pick and shut up already."


Yeah, but 90% of the things I listed have been known about for years and everyone always acted as though he was a "good guy" prior to this just because they hated LeBron.

Kind of like how they decided Wade was LeBron's rival even though their teams NEVER played in the playoffs, they don't play the same position, they'd never been in contention for the same thing, etc.

/rivalries are born in the playoffs - other "rivalries" are horsesh*t
 
2012-03-15 02:11:31 PM  
Cleveland finally gets someone to replace Lebron Link (new window)
 
2012-03-15 02:14:00 PM  

LucklessWonder: As a fan of the Magic, I just want him to make up his farking mind before the deadline.

He stays, great. He doesn't want to stay? Also great, move him for some pieces to keep teh team strong.


If he doesn't waive his FA option, no team is going to give you anything valuable in return.
 
2012-03-15 02:15:31 PM  
As someone who doesn't follow basketball all that closely, why is it up to Howard whether or not the team trades him? He doesn't seem happy there, so wouldn't it be better for the Magic to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing? Why does he have to say he wants to be traded (something he already said in December according to TFA) for him to be traded?

Personally, I think the Magic are farking morans if they don't trade him.
 
2012-03-15 02:16:27 PM  

coolio mack: Dinobot: He's afraid of exiting in such way and end up looking like villain a la 'melo and Lebron... too bad all this flip-flopping is pissing everyone off, including the fans

He's really dense... like when he was criticizing his teammates for not playing harder, for not committing earlier this season, when everyone was like "what's the point? every city you visit, you say you'd love to play for them -- why should I bust my ass to make you look good?"

This is way beyond Melo and LeBron territory now. Way worse. GM's in several stories I've read have called it a "historic debacle".

At least with Melo, he said from the jump that he wanted to go to the Knicks and wouldn't sign an extension. And while LeBron looked like a fool with the Decision special, at least everyone knew that he was going to test free agency after that season.

Howard basically admitted that he was a puppet throughout this situation, saying he had received "bad advice". This really shows me how mentally weak the guy is. He couldn't handle the confrontation at any point in the process.

Now I think he has to stay long term. I don't see how Deron Williams is going to stay with the Nets with no one to put next to him, so he's probably going home to Dallas.


Oh, I know its way worse than Melo and Lebron at this point -- but he's too dense to see that.
 
2012-03-15 02:18:44 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: As someone who doesn't follow basketball all that closely, why is it up to Howard whether or not the team trades him? He doesn't seem happy there, so wouldn't it be better for the Magic to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing? Why does he have to say he wants to be traded (something he already said in December according to TFA) for him to be traded?

Personally, I think the Magic are farking morans if they don't trade him.



I agree the Magics are morons if they don't trade him -- what's even more idiotic is that at the beginning of the season, the Nets were offering 7 picks for him and they balked at that.

Either he has a no trade clause or a team will only take him in with a guaranteed extension -- what's the point of renting him for a couple of months while giving away draft picks/young talent for him?
 
2012-03-15 02:20:22 PM  

Komplex: More specifically, he's stuck in a no win situation. He saw what happened to James - playing coy with everybody saying he'll make his decision when the time comes and getting killed for it. And he saw what happened in Denver with 'Melo being honest and straightforward with everybody about his intensions and desires and getting killed for it.


I don't know if he saw anything and reacted. I don't think he has any idea what's going on. LeBron dramatically misjudged the public reaction to "the Decision" but he clearly had a plan the whole time. Carmelo just dramatically overestimates how important his skillset is to winning NBA games. Dwight doesn't know what he wants is probably right, but I think it's because he's Lenny and he needs George to tell him what to do.
 
2012-03-15 02:25:12 PM  
Howard seems very immature, even worse than Lebron if that's possible, probably coddled his whole life as a superstar, I had the impression he wasn't that way at all.

And why would anyone want to leave orlando for new jersey? Even worse owners, shiatty taxes, and a longer trip to get on a decent beach.
 
2012-03-15 02:25:45 PM  

IAmRight: I love how people will bash LeBron (who said he was going to wait until after his contract was up before making a decision as to where he wanted to go) and think Howard is a good guy.

Newsflash: Howard also has 0 titles, despite having had a VASTLY superior team to any of Cleveland's teams around LeBron. He also has underachieved. He wants to go to a big city to be with other stars. He can't even be on the floor most of the time in clutch situations because his free throw shooting is so awful. He claims to be a hardcore Christian then knocks up a dance team member. He whines as much as anyone in the league about calls, gets more calls than anyone, throws elbows at people's heads intentionally...and he's considered a good guy.

He rips off the same nickname as the last good Orlando center and yet isn't half as good as the original. He wants to be traded, then he doesn't want to, then he demands it, then he says he's happy where he is. And yet you jackwagons think he's a great guy.

And maybe he is, off the court. Lord knows we don't have people stalking him every time he goes out to find out if he didn't tip enough or his friends are rude, so maybe we don't know about this.

But when it comes to basketball, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA. It's not hard to block a lot of shots when you're never assigned to guard a man, you're always just floating around the rim because your opponent is never a threat. Zone defense is for sissies.


I'm 100% with you on this. As a Lakers fan myself, I've been consistently ridiculed by saying I wouldn't trade Bynum for Howard straight up. It does sound dumb given Bynum's injury history, but as far as pure talent and basketball IQ, I'm taking Bynum all day.

I just think it's pathetic on Howard's part that this is his eighth year in the league and he hasn't developed any sort of consistent post game. In a league so devoid of centers, any of the greats from the past could be playing now and averaging an easy 30 a game. It makes me question how hard Dwight works on his game and if he's really driven to get any better. He's also a turnover machine and lacks any sort of passing ability.

Bynum, on the other hand, has shown great growth offensively and defensively in his first season playing starters minutes. And he also gets credit for being able to deal with Kobe "ship his ass out of town" Bryant on a daily basis. Howard would crumble under that pressure. Another thing that made me like Bynum a lot more was when he was brought up in trade talks, and he responded "there's a bank in every city". It's not the politically correct thing to say, but I love it from a 'keeping it real' standpoint. He's ready to take on the challenge of being the top dog if it was presented to him. For the next 5 years, I want Bynum over Dwight.
 
2012-03-15 02:25:49 PM  
Who is going to play Center for the Nets?
 
2012-03-15 02:27:02 PM  

steamingpile: Howard seems very immature, even worse than Lebron if that's possible, probably coddled his whole life as a superstar, I had the impression he wasn't that way at all.

And why would anyone want to leave orlando for new jersey? Even worse owners, shiatty taxes, and a longer trip to get on a decent beach.


because the cool people are in NYC and who would want to go to the Knicks? Next year, the Nets are going to be in Brooklyn, so...
 
2012-03-15 02:31:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: As someone who doesn't follow basketball all that closely, why is it up to Howard whether or not the team trades him? He doesn't seem happy there, so wouldn't it be better for the Magic to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing? Why does he have to say he wants to be traded (something he already said in December according to TFA) for him to be traded?


Because there are maybe 4-5 potentially dominant centers in the league, and only one of them is in the conference. So if there's a chance he'll stay there, they obviously want to keep him. Unless you have Michael Jordan, you want a big man or two in the middle, since that's how you get championships.

He's basically doing the same thing LeBron got so much sh*t for except he's pretending like he's going to sign with his old team. With LeBron saying he wouldn't decide until the end, it was pretty obvious he was leaving town (except for the one-hour special thing, where no one thought he'd be dumb enough to leave like that, knowing how Cleveland would take it).

Howard is saying "well I really wanna stay, but if you could trade me, great. But I might stay if you wanted me to. But I wouldn't be sad about a trade. He's being really, really passive-aggressive about the whole thing.

Basically, he's saying "I want to go away but I don't want to say that because then everyone will be mad at me and they'll start actually expecting me to perform."

He's basically a chick that's out of your league that's telling you she can see you having a future together and she's really happy with the relationship, but she wants to go see other people. You don't wanna just cut her loose because you're not going to get someone like that again. But you really can't keep her because you know she's got a wandering eye. So you convince yourself that if she's happy then you can make this work. That's where the Magic are.
 
2012-03-15 02:36:40 PM  

Dinobot: AdmirableSnackbar: As someone who doesn't follow basketball all that closely, why is it up to Howard whether or not the team trades him? He doesn't seem happy there, so wouldn't it be better for the Magic to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing? Why does he have to say he wants to be traded (something he already said in December according to TFA) for him to be traded?

Personally, I think the Magic are farking morans if they don't trade him.


I agree the Magics are morons if they don't trade him -- what's even more idiotic is that at the beginning of the season, the Nets were offering 7 picks for him and they balked at that.

Either he has a no trade clause or a team will only take him in with a guaranteed extension -- what's the point of renting him for a couple of months while giving away draft picks/young talent for him?


It doesn't seem that he has a no-trade clause. And you're never going to get equal value in return for a rent-a-player. So the Magic seem to be in a position where they can either trade Howard and get something in return - and I would guess that that something would not be insignificant, just not amazing - or let him walk at the end of the season. It's stupid to assume that Howard will opt for another year with Orlando and not for free agency. Basically, the Magic are putting this decision all on Howard, which is not only stupid but gutless as well.
 
2012-03-15 02:41:49 PM  

steamingpile: Howard seems very immature, even worse than Lebron if that's possible, probably coddled his whole life as a superstar, I had the impression he wasn't that way at all.

And why would anyone want to leave orlando for new jersey? Even worse owners, shiatty taxes, and a longer trip to get on a decent beach.


Not sure how true it is, but I've heard his main interest in New Jersey/Brooklyn is due to his contract with Adidas, which is expiring too. Adidas wants him in New York because their brand is underrepresented there. This also explains why he is not interested in Chicago, where Adidas already has D Rose under contract and dominating that market.

It's just something I've heard, I'm not sure if that is true. Consider the size of the recent contract Rose signed with Adidas though, and you can see why they would have so much influence over where Howard would want to play.
 
2012-03-15 02:42:15 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: So the Magic seem to be in a position where they can either trade Howard and get something in return - and I would guess that that something would not be insignificant, just not amazing


But he's saying "yeah, I'll opt in for another year."

Also, because of the way the league works, Orlando can sign him for more money than anyone else can pay him. So they have an advantage if he goes to free agency, too.

And no one's going to want to trade for him unless they're sure he'll sign there - since he apparently has no clue where he wants to be, that makes it hard to get a deal done from that perspective.

If they keep him, they at least have an outside shot at a title this year (they won't because he's gutless and useless in a close game, but that's beside the point). If they don't, they'll have to absorb a bunch of crappy contracts to make the trade work out and then they'll have inferior players.

/trades do have to balance out somewhat money-wise, right? Basketball people who worry about the off-court stuff, help me out on this one.
 
2012-03-15 02:42:49 PM  

IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: As someone who doesn't follow basketball all that closely, why is it up to Howard whether or not the team trades him? He doesn't seem happy there, so wouldn't it be better for the Magic to get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing? Why does he have to say he wants to be traded (something he already said in December according to TFA) for him to be traded?

Because there are maybe 4-5 potentially dominant centers in the league, and only one of them is in the conference. So if there's a chance he'll stay there, they obviously want to keep him. Unless you have Michael Jordan, you want a big man or two in the middle, since that's how you get championships.

He's basically doing the same thing LeBron got so much sh*t for except he's pretending like he's going to sign with his old team. With LeBron saying he wouldn't decide until the end, it was pretty obvious he was leaving town (except for the one-hour special thing, where no one thought he'd be dumb enough to leave like that, knowing how Cleveland would take it).

Howard is saying "well I really wanna stay, but if you could trade me, great. But I might stay if you wanted me to. But I wouldn't be sad about a trade. He's being really, really passive-aggressive about the whole thing.

Basically, he's saying "I want to go away but I don't want to say that because then everyone will be mad at me and they'll start actually expecting me to perform."

He's basically a chick that's out of your league that's telling you she can see you having a future together and she's really happy with the relationship, but she wants to go see other people. You don't wanna just cut her loose because you're not going to get someone like that again. But you really can't keep her because you know she's got a wandering eye. So you convince yourself that if she's happy then you can make this work. That's where the Magic are.


I get all of that, but seriously, how stupid do you (not really you personally, but the Magic) have to be to believe that Howard wants to stay at this point? Again, why does he have to say (again) that he wants out? He's already said it, the rest is obviously Howard trying to not offend the Magic fans. I didn't see a turnip truck come through recently but it certainly seems that a lot of people fell off of it.
 
2012-03-15 02:46:06 PM  

IAmRight: But he's saying "yeah, I'll opt in for another year."


I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing him say that he doesn't want to leave Orlando.

"I don't want to leave" =/= "I want to stay"

This is especially true when just a few weeks ago Howard was asking to be traded.
 
2012-03-15 02:47:35 PM  

Conthan: Not sure how true it is, but I've heard his main interest in New Jersey/Brooklyn is due to his contract with Adidas, which is expiring too. Adidas wants him in New York because their brand is underrepresented there. This also explains why he is not interested in Chicago, where Adidas already has D Rose under contract and dominating that market.

It's just something I've heard, I'm not sure if that is true. Consider the size of the recent contract Rose signed with Adidas though, and you can see why they would have so much influence over where Howard would want to play.


That's a myth. Dwight Howard wants to go to Brooklyn for the same reason a lot of athletes want to make they moves they want to make these days: lifestyle and/or playing with their buddies. He wants to live the New York life, be the man in the New York media. It's also the reason he wouldn't turn down an offer from Los Angeles. Lifestyle.

I'm not making a value judgement but it does seem like a pretty odd trend. You're going to be on the road for half the year and you'll make enough money that you can buy a permanent residence anywhere in the world. So why not angle yourself for a move that affords you that which money can't buy: championships?
 
2012-03-15 02:49:53 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing him say that he doesn't want to leave Orlando.

"I don't want to leave" =/= "I want to stay"


FTA: "Dwight Howard informed Orlando Magic management late Wednesday night that he wants to stay with the team through next season and will not opt out of his contract, according to sources close to the situation."

Sh*t or get off the pot, Dwight. Take your overrated ass anywhere where you can go and sit on the bench during the end of games because you can't hit FTs. Go throw a couple of cheap shots at guys' heads because you didn't get calls you felt you were entitled to despite the fact that you constantly go over people's backs and rarely get called on it AND you might as well bring a tent with you into the lane for how long you camp out there on virtually every possession.
 
2012-03-15 02:51:29 PM  

The Great EZE: So why not angle yourself for a move that affords you that which money can't buy: championships?


Apparently people got mad at LeBron for trying to do that.

/though he should've really picked Chicago if he wanted those
//but then again, based on his other off-court decisions, we can't really say he's great at determining what puts him in the best position for things
 
2012-03-15 02:55:55 PM  

The Great EZE: Conthan: Not sure how true it is, but I've heard his main interest in New Jersey/Brooklyn is due to his contract with Adidas, which is expiring too. Adidas wants him in New York because their brand is underrepresented there. This also explains why he is not interested in Chicago, where Adidas already has D Rose under contract and dominating that market.

It's just something I've heard, I'm not sure if that is true. Consider the size of the recent contract Rose signed with Adidas though, and you can see why they would have so much influence over where Howard would want to play.

That's a myth. Dwight Howard wants to go to Brooklyn for the same reason a lot of athletes want to make they moves they want to make these days: lifestyle and/or playing with their buddies. He wants to live the New York life, be the man in the New York media. It's also the reason he wouldn't turn down an offer from Los Angeles. Lifestyle.


How do you know that the marketing angle is a myth? There's been many whispers about it already, and Howard himself said that he's received "bad advice" from his people over the past few weeks. If he really wanted to be in Brooklyn for the lifestyle and to be the man there, he'd be there already and wouldn't have agreed to stay in Orlando. It'd be the same exact situation that Melo had last year. Not to mention by opting into his final year next year, he's running the risk of Deron Williams not being there. I wouldn't discount the marketing aspect of this at all.

And he's already said he wouldn't sign an extension with the Lakers. Supposedly, he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Kobe.
 
2012-03-15 02:56:19 PM  

IAmRight: /trades do have to balance out somewhat money-wise, right? Basketball people who worry about the off-court stuff, help me out on this one.


If the teams is over the cap, they can't acquire more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary they trade away

Example: Dwight's salary is $18,091,770 this year so if the Magic were to get rid of him they could not take back more than $22,714,713 or so in salary.
 
2012-03-15 02:56:52 PM  

IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing him say that he doesn't want to leave Orlando.

"I don't want to leave" =/= "I want to stay"

FTA: "Dwight Howard informed Orlando Magic management late Wednesday night that he wants to stay with the team through next season and will not opt out of his contract, according to sources close to the situation."

Sh*t or get off the pot, Dwight. Take your overrated ass anywhere where you can go and sit on the bench during the end of games because you can't hit FTs. Go throw a couple of cheap shots at guys' heads because you didn't get calls you felt you were entitled to despite the fact that you constantly go over people's backs and rarely get called on it AND you might as well bring a tent with you into the lane for how long you camp out there on virtually every possession.


I'll take that with a grain of salt without a direct, public quote. Plus, it's pretty obvious that the Magic can't take Howard at his word. They need to assume that he's already made up his mind and he's not going to stay in Orlando. I would think of him as Tracy Morgan's "character" from 30 Rock. Just because he made his sick wife a sandwich in the kitchen doesn't prevent him from taking that sandwich to a strip club rather than the bedroom where his wife is laid up. You know that Howard is going to end up at the strip club, so the only reason you ask him to make you a sandwich in the first place is so you can make a big stink about it later when he leaves you high and dry. The Magic's management would rather paint him as the bad guy than make the correct decision for the future of their franchise.
 
2012-03-15 02:58:32 PM  

IAmRight: He's basically doing the same thing LeBron got so much sh*t for except he's pretending like he's going to sign with his old team. With LeBron saying he wouldn't decide until the end, it was pretty obvious he was leaving town (except for the one-hour special thing, where no one thought he'd be dumb enough to leave like that, knowing how Cleveland would take it).



For fark sake...the bulk of the shiat that LeBron caught was for the SPECIAL, not because he was going to wait until the end. If Dwight does anything as remotely narcissistic as that, I guarantee he'll catch shiat for it too.
 
2012-03-15 02:58:51 PM  

The Great EZE: I'm not making a value judgement but it does seem like a pretty odd trend.


It is especially strange when you consider that the internet and social media is a great leveler when it comes to creating your own "brand". Logan Morrison didn't even play a full year in the majors last year for the Marlins but has a "brand". Paul Bissonnette barely f*cking plays, and it's in the probably the least-deserving NHL market of Phoenix, but has a "brand". All because those two are smart enough to have active Twitter accounts and proactively look into other business ventures.

If you're not content with simply taking a paycheck as a professional athlete and living a quiet life outside of it, you don't need to play in a "bigger market" to suddenly have other opportunities fall into your lap.
 
2012-03-15 02:59:20 PM  
My problem with Dwight Howard is how athletic and talented he is. I'll stick to college basketball, thanks.
 
2012-03-15 02:59:51 PM  
I don't trust this guy...never trust a man in a cape.
 
2012-03-15 03:02:20 PM  

oMaJoJ: If the teams is over the cap, they can't acquire more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary they trade away

Example: Dwight's salary is $18,091,770 this year so if the Magic were to get rid of him they could not take back more than $22,714,713 or so in salary.


Well, if they were to try to trade to another team, then the other team would have to give back something close to the amount in contracts, which would likely be crappy players who are overpaid and wouldn't contribute much. Not to mention Otis Smith isn't a great GM.

AdmirableSnackbar: I'll take that with a grain of salt without a direct, public quote.


Well, then there's this, breaking today:

"Howard signed papers Thursday agreeing to waive the early termination option in his contract, guaranteeing he will be with the Magic at the beginning of the 2012-13 season. His decision that ends the season-long drama on whether he would be dealt prior to the trade deadline and before the Magic risked losing him in free agency."
 
2012-03-15 03:06:01 PM  

IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: I'll take that with a grain of salt without a direct, public quote.

Well, then there's this, breaking today:

"Howard signed papers Thursday agreeing to waive the early termination option in his contract, guaranteeing he will be with the Magic at the beginning of the 2012-13 season. His decision that ends the season-long drama on whether he would be dealt prior to the trade deadline and before the Magic risked losing him in free agency."


Well, then, there we go. Discussion tabled for ~12 months.
 
2012-03-15 03:06:08 PM  

guestguy: For fark sake...the bulk of the shiat that LeBron caught was for the SPECIAL, not because he was going to wait until the end.


I know. What I was saying is that it was obvious he was going to leave...then he said it was going to be a one-hour special announcement, and people started saying "well, he HAS to be staying. No way he's dumb enough to sh*t on Cleveland in a one-hour nationally televised special."

But apparently he was.

Mike_LowELL: My problem with Dwight Howard is how athletic and talented he is. I'll stick to college basketball, thanks.


It's more of that he's a waste of athleticism and talent. He did finally develop a post move this offseason though! And he should never be DPoY. Let someone who can actually man up a player or two earn that award. A zone-playing center who never has any responsibilities being DPoY is a joke when you have several guys who can guard anyone on the court, 1 through 5.

And blocks are inferior stats to steals. A block doesn't even necessarily stop the other team from scoring on that possession.
 
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