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2012-03-15 01:01:50 PM

wrs1864: Smokers are good for health care costs and the economy. They tend to die quickly and often right around the age of retirement. It is the non-smokers who tend to require long-term medicines and soak up all the SS money, while they wander around retirement homes doing producing nothing.

Of course, it would be even cheaper to just shoot everyone over the age of 40.


Hey! Still payin taxes here!

/shoot myself when it's time
 
2012-03-15 01:04:52 PM
Wait. What? Cigarettes are bad for us? Why didn't someone tell us!?!?! The next thing you know, they're going to start telling us that eating at McDonalds isn't good for us. What else is the government keeping from us?

I blame Lyndon Johnson.
 
2012-03-15 01:05:01 PM

firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: I quit two weeks ago using Chantix, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
.

How many murderous dreams have you had?

No murderous ones. Some really vivid mind bending ones, but no nightmares. I've been on it 3 weeks and I seem to have avoided the especially crazy side-effects. It's honestly been the easiest time I've ever had quitting. Obviously that's not true for everyone who tries Chantix, but it is for me.


Cool. A couple of my co-workers tried it and said the thoughts and dreams they had scared the crap out of them. I went on the patch instead (again). Three weeks so far so good but I've been fighting a cold and cough for the last week which has helped keep down the urge to smoke.
 
2012-03-15 01:07:04 PM

vwarb: LeroyBourne: My cut-off is $7 bucks a pack. They go that high, I'm done. And considering they're like $9 a pack in places like NYC it's only a matter of time.

Marlboro 100s are 10 bucks where I live. When that happened, I switched to a pipe. It tastes better and is way cheaper. Best decision I ever made.


I use to roll my own (no filter) and would lose my breath getting out of bed in the morning. Not worth it.
 
2012-03-15 01:08:35 PM

SweetSilverBlues: jkneeds: SweetSilverBlues: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Thinking of trying those Njoy ones, I have yet to find one I like.

Weird I'm so picky about it.

I got an eGo-T MEGA last week and a bottle of maple syrup flavored juice. Haven't had an analog since. I highly recommend the switch, even if just for the money savings. I was previously a 1.5 pack a day smoker and now use about .5ml of juice a day. At $15.00 per 30ml bottle it's a huge savings.

I've heard good things about the eGo. Maybe I'll try them instead of the Njoy.

Thanks!


I'd recommend trying a Blu as well. It turned out to be the one for me. I think I tried maybe 6 or 7 before I found one I liked.
 
2012-03-15 01:14:09 PM

struct: Mr. Parker: Great use of 54 million tax dollars, these haven't worked in the past they will not work now.

But haven't smoking rates been collapsing? what evidence do you have that they don't work? Because what I've seen is that cancer deaths, and the money that would go to treat them ( a hell of a lot more than 54 million) have finally started to fall in large part to anti-smoking campaigns from the past.


What the fark do I look like? Google? Figure it out yourself,don't spend tax payers money, get a rich women whose son died of lung cancer to front the bill. People are always gonna smoke its not gonna go away cause the government makes too much money off it.
 
2012-03-15 01:14:36 PM

SweetSilverBlues: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Thinking of trying those Njoy ones, I have yet to find one I like.

Weird I'm so picky about it.


the best ones are online, such as the cignot. The njoy and such types do not have a very long battery life and the filter only lasts maybe one day. The higher priced ones have more variety of flavors, longer battery life, and the liquid lasts much longer than the filters. You spend more up front for the starter kits, but save on the liquid refills.

/csb
//no advertising
///just my research from usage
 
2012-03-15 01:14:58 PM

cig-mkr: So I can expect to see diseased liver ads from drinking when ?


When you see diabetic ulcers on the Little Debbie packages.
 
2012-03-15 01:15:01 PM

soopey: firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: I quit two weeks ago using Chantix, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
.

How many murderous dreams have you had?

No murderous ones. Some really vivid mind bending ones, but no nightmares. I've been on it 3 weeks and I seem to have avoided the especially crazy side-effects. It's honestly been the easiest time I've ever had quitting. Obviously that's not true for everyone who tries Chantix, but it is for me.

Cool. A couple of my co-workers tried it and said the thoughts and dreams they had scared the crap out of them. I went on the patch instead (again). Three weeks so far so good but I've been fighting a cold and cough for the last week which has helped keep down the urge to smoke.


Yeah, I've heard all the horror stories, and I'm in Fort Worth, Texas so was right here when the guy in Dallas went crazy on it and killed himself. I was nervous starting it but figured if I noticed changes I could just stop taking it. I like it b/c it's not a nicotine substitute like gum or the patch, it actually blocks your receptors and reduces cravings. It also made smoking taste really, really nasty. I'd already cut down to just a few a day when my one week quit day came. The only side effects I have regularly are nausea and a brief headache right after I take it, but if I make sure to take it with a meal I don't get them. Good luck, I'm so glad I quit, I wish I'd never started. I've already noticed physical improvements, mainly with breathing.
 
2012-03-15 01:15:07 PM
Maybe we should start doing ad campaigns of people who have been in car accidents and have deformities or amputations and the like. Heck, we shouldn't stop there lets also start one showing the results of having the majority of your flesh burned off.

I am sure these campaigns due to their graphic nature will make people get in less automobile crashes and make it so people stop setting themselves on fire.
 
2012-03-15 01:16:37 PM
I didn't realize Ric Romero was working for the CDC now.
 
2012-03-15 01:18:08 PM

umad: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Non-smokers lose their shiat over e-cigs too. I say stick with the real thing and make them all as uncomfortable and enraged as possible.


Sometimes I forget that smokers are cooler than smart people.
 
2012-03-15 01:20:50 PM
Smoking keeps me from getting stabby.

Me smoking = safer for everyone else.
 
2012-03-15 01:25:23 PM
Only smoking i do is a hookah maybe once every like 6months if that.
 
2012-03-15 01:28:54 PM
Yet, they still don't know what to do about the walkers.
 
2012-03-15 01:31:03 PM

mcwehrle: SweetSilverBlues: jkneeds: SweetSilverBlues: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Thinking of trying those Njoy ones, I have yet to find one I like.

Weird I'm so picky about it.

I got an eGo-T MEGA last week and a bottle of maple syrup flavored juice. Haven't had an analog since. I highly recommend the switch, even if just for the money savings. I was previously a 1.5 pack a day smoker and now use about .5ml of juice a day. At $15.00 per 30ml bottle it's a huge savings.

I've heard good things about the eGo. Maybe I'll try them instead of the Njoy.

Thanks!

I'd recommend trying a Blu as well. It turned out to be the one for me. I think I tried maybe 6 or 7 before I found one I liked.


I do not recommend a non-smoker taking up e-cigs. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. As any smoker can tell you, it's a very hard addiction to overcome and one can still have cravings for nicotine for years after you quit. Were it not for nicotine, we probably wouldn't have 20% of the population still smoking given all we know about its harmful effects. Also, I have recently read that non-smokers who start using e-cigs have a very high probability of switching to real cigarettes. It's just not worth the risk of getting hooked.

And Chantrix? That drug is scary. It works by blocking dopamine receptors in the brain, so it stands to reason that it will cause depression, suicidal thoughts and aggressive behavior in many people. Given that bupropion (aka Zyban and Wellbutrin) is just as effective and has a long safety record, with few side effects, Chantrix isn't worth the risk.
 
2012-03-15 01:33:12 PM

FistingMidgets: umad: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Non-smokers lose their shiat over e-cigs too. I say stick with the real thing and make them all as uncomfortable and enraged as possible.

Sometimes I forget that smokers are cooler than smart people.


When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.
 
2012-03-15 01:34:17 PM

JackieRabbit: I do not recommend a non-smoker taking up e-cigs. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet.


You are correct, but there are a lot of non-nicotine e-juices out there. As a former smoker, I keep a non-nic e-cig around just in case I get the urge and it works. This comes in especially handy if I go out drinking.
 
2012-03-15 01:39:09 PM

JackieRabbit: mcwehrle: SweetSilverBlues: jkneeds: SweetSilverBlues: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Thinking of trying those Njoy ones, I have yet to find one I like.

Weird I'm so picky about it.

I got an eGo-T MEGA last week and a bottle of maple syrup flavored juice. Haven't had an analog since. I highly recommend the switch, even if just for the money savings. I was previously a 1.5 pack a day smoker and now use about .5ml of juice a day. At $15.00 per 30ml bottle it's a huge savings.

I've heard good things about the eGo. Maybe I'll try them instead of the Njoy.

Thanks!

I'd recommend trying a Blu as well. It turned out to be the one for me. I think I tried maybe 6 or 7 before I found one I liked.

I do not recommend a non-smoker taking up e-cigs. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. As any smoker can tell you, it's a very hard addiction to overcome and one can still have cravings for nicotine for years after you quit. Were it not for nicotine, we probably wouldn't have 20% of the population still smoking given all we know about its harmful effects. Also, I have recently read that non-smokers who start using e-cigs have a very high probability of switching to real cigarettes. It's just not worth the risk of getting hooked.

And Chantrix? That drug is scary. It works by blocking dopamine receptors in the brain, so it stands to reason that it will cause depression, suicidal thoughts and aggressive behavior in many people. Given that bupropion (aka Zyban and Wellbutrin) is just as effective and has a long safety record, with few side effects, Chantrix isn't worth the risk.


I bet you're fun at parties. (half kidding there)

/smoker
//lot less now though
 
2012-03-15 01:46:40 PM
umad



When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.


u mad, u mad
 
2012-03-15 01:47:19 PM
If you're looking to switch to ecigs, I'd recommend finding a smoke shop that will let you try different ones, so you can find one you like. I really like Green Smoke (they're a little pricey, though). I'm down to about 3 or 4 analogs a day.
 
2012-03-15 01:50:14 PM

Shaggy0717: SweetSilverBlues: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Thinking of trying those Njoy ones, I have yet to find one I like.

Weird I'm so picky about it.

the best ones are online, such as the cignot. The njoy and such types do not have a very long battery life and the filter only lasts maybe one day. The higher priced ones have more variety of flavors, longer battery life, and the liquid lasts much longer than the filters. You spend more up front for the starter kits, but save on the liquid refills.

/csb
//no advertising
///just my research from usage


If you're lucky enough to have a local retailer, visit and ask lots of questions. Here in Laguna Beach we have a great one. You can taste-test everything before buying and get what you want based on more than a description.
 
2012-03-15 01:54:48 PM
E-smokes just make me wonder what strange and wonderful non-nicotine substances I could put in them.
 
2012-03-15 01:55:36 PM

umad: When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.


you sound awfully irritated at those thin-skinned motherfarkers.
 
2012-03-15 02:01:02 PM

vwarb: Marlboro 100s are 10 bucks where I live. When that happened, I switched to a pipe. It tastes better and is way cheaper. Best decision I ever made.


We're working on a sliding scale here, right?
 
2012-03-15 02:01:37 PM

ph0rk: umad: When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.

you sound awfully irritated at those thin-skinned motherfarkers.


You're right. The next time one walks by and "coughs" I will walk right behind them until I am finished with my smoke. I think I have been being way too passive with my live and let live ways. It's time to be an obnoxious dick in an effort to convince a few of them to start smoking.
 
2012-03-15 02:07:31 PM

umad: You're right. The next time one walks by and "coughs" I will walk right behind them until I am finished with my smoke. I think I have been being way too passive with my live and let live ways. It's time to be an obnoxious dick in an effort to convince a few of them to start smoking.


They won't smell you if you walk behind them.
 
2012-03-15 02:11:07 PM
dear ladies,
cigs will make yr hoo-haw smell not-so-fresh

cache.gawker.com
 
2012-03-15 02:20:21 PM

umad: FistingMidgets: umad: Mugato: As a non-smoker, who is not an asshole about it even though it's obnoxious, I don't know why smokers haven't switched to the e-cig. shiat, I might even do it. There's a watermelon flavor.

Non-smokers lose their shiat over e-cigs too. I say stick with the real thing and make them all as uncomfortable and enraged as possible.

Sometimes I forget that smokers are cooler than smart people.

When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.


So it is being thinned skinned to not want to breath in cancer causing chemicals? So I guess some guy upwind spraying the Agent Orange is OK because he likes the smell?

I'll be thinking of you on a day with sub-zero temps and you are outside catching and smoke and freezing your ass off because you were stupid enough to get addicted to a product that will kill you. A tobacco company made you their biatch but at least you can stand around thinking you are cooler than the non-smokers.
 
2012-03-15 02:29:05 PM

Savage Bacon: Ennuipoet: What?!? I thought they had Vitamin C in them and stuff!


/Leary steals from Hicks, I steal from Leary
//Circle of Life

"You could have cigarettes that come in a black pack, with a skull and crossbones on the front, called TUMORS, and smokers would still be lining up around the block going 'I can't wait to get my hands on these farking things! I bet you get a tumor as soon as you light up!'"


Didn't Bed, Bath & Beyond carry something exactly like that? But labeled black death or something.
 
2012-03-15 02:39:32 PM

FistingMidgets: I'll be thinking of you on a day with sub-zero temps and you are outside catching and smoke and freezing your ass off because you were stupid enough to get addicted to a product that will kill you. A tobacco company made you their biatch but at least you can stand around thinking you are cooler than the non-smokers.


And I'll be thinking of you dealing with your sub-zero temps while I stand outside smoking a cig in the awesome moderate climate we have around here.
 
2012-03-15 02:41:28 PM

genepool lifeboat: cig-mkr: So I can expect to see diseased liver ads from drinking when ?

When you see diabetic ulcers on the Little Debbie packages.


And clogged arteries on McD packaging.
 
2012-03-15 02:52:31 PM

ph0rk: umad: You're right. The next time one walks by and "coughs" I will walk right behind them until I am finished with my smoke. I think I have been being way too passive with my live and let live ways. It's time to be an obnoxious dick in an effort to convince a few of them to start smoking.

They won't smell you if you walk behind them.


Depends which way the wind is blowing.
 
2012-03-15 02:52:35 PM

genepool lifeboat: JackieRabbit: I do not recommend a non-smoker taking up e-cigs. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet.

You are correct, but there are a lot of non-nicotine e-juices out there. As a former smoker, I keep a non-nic e-cig around just in case I get the urge and it works. This comes in especially handy if I go out drinking.


Good idea! Sure beats bumming one from a buddy, once you have three beers on board. I fell into that trap after not having smoked for seven years.
 
2012-03-15 02:54:24 PM

JackieRabbit: genepool lifeboat: JackieRabbit: I do not recommend a non-smoker taking up e-cigs. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet.

You are correct, but there are a lot of non-nicotine e-juices out there. As a former smoker, I keep a non-nic e-cig around just in case I get the urge and it works. This comes in especially handy if I go out drinking.

Good idea! Sure beats bumming one from a buddy, once you have three beers on board. I fell into that trap after not having smoked for seven years.


So did I. Quit for 5 years then took a part-time job at a bar. Huge mistake.
I've been smoke-free for about a year now and the e-cig keeps me honest.
 
2012-03-15 03:07:18 PM

firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: I quit two weeks ago using Chantix, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
.

How many murderous dreams have you had?

No murderous ones. Some really vivid mind bending ones, but no nightmares. I've been on it 3 weeks and I seem to have avoided the especially crazy side-effects. It's honestly been the easiest time I've ever had quitting. Obviously that's not true for everyone who tries Chantix, but it is for me.

Cool. A couple of my co-workers tried it and said the thoughts and dreams they had scared the crap out of them. I went on the patch instead (again). Three weeks so far so good but I've been fighting a cold and cough for the last week which has helped keep down the urge to smoke.

Yeah, I've heard all the horror stories, and I'm in Fort Worth, Texas so was right here when the guy in Dallas went crazy on it and killed himself. I was nervous starting it but figured if I noticed changes I could just stop taking it. I like it b/c it's not a nicotine substitute like gum or the patch, it actually blocks your receptors and reduces cravings. It also made smoking taste really, really nasty. I'd already cut down to just a few a day when my one week quit day came. The only side effects I have regularly are nausea and a brief headache right after I take it, but if I make sure to take it with a meal I don't get them. Good luck, I'm so glad I quit, I wish I'd never started. I've already noticed physical improvements, mainly with breathing.


Well, he's not smoking anymore, is he?
 
2012-03-15 03:20:18 PM

Dr.Knockboots: Linkster: Dr.Knockboots: 1. The world population is growing uncomfortably high for my liking
2. Smokers make up a good chunk of the population
3. It seems that smokers are largely useless people, hell, they are of the weaker-gened variety.. otherwise, how do you explain their desire to even start smoking? (this applies to anyone under the age of 55)
4. I'd rather not have the Idiocrasy population running around spreading their weak genes and poor choice making habits
5. Poison all cigarettes, immediate death upon smoking...failing death, at LEAST immediate impotency.
6. Take all the finances/materials of the newly dead, and repurpose them
7. Profit!

--it really doesn't matter what the labels say.. morans will still smoke.

Thank you Dr. Dickhead!

You'll get over it, stinky :)


Alcohol is poison and does to your liver what tobacco does to your lungs. Not to mention the social costs of violent drunks and drunk driving. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, and should stick to lifting weights and drinking rather than proscribing social policies.
 
2012-03-15 03:21:40 PM
Nrokreffefp: Alcohol is poison and does to your liver what tobacco does to your lungs. Not to mention the social costs of violent drunks and drunk driving. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, and should stick to lifting weights and drinking rather than proscribing social policies.

The only problem with that is that the body has evolved the mechanisms to handle small amounts of Ethanol Alcohol so that it is not poisonous and damaging, and that small amounts consumed sporadically are linked with a lessened cardiovascular risk.
 
2012-03-15 03:26:42 PM
E-cig user here. I use a Denali (you can't get one, probably) but you may be able to find similar. I recommend the Buzz Pro, highly, as well. Shop around for juice. Even GourmetVapor (great sales) isn't bad. I prefer the tank setup.

I'd recommend trying the juices and various kits before buying a bunch of stuff though. I have a huge box full of stuff that seldom gets used. I also really do recommend the eGo-T (tank) setup though those don't hold a lot of juice when you consider what I go through.
 
2012-03-15 03:28:28 PM
Smoking Farkers try this:


www.goelectroniccigarettereview.com

I've been using a electronic cigarette for a few weeks and haven't touched a real one since. And that is after being a smoker for 15 years. I'll recommend it to anyone who is trying to quit.

It was about $50 bucks to start and now $2-$4 per day. Some refill the cartridges and is cheaper than that.
 
2012-03-15 03:29:55 PM

Nrokreffefp: Dr.Knockboots: Linkster: Dr.Knockboots: 1. The world population is growing uncomfortably high for my liking
2. Smokers make up a good chunk of the population
3. It seems that smokers are largely useless people, hell, they are of the weaker-gened variety.. otherwise, how do you explain their desire to even start smoking? (this applies to anyone under the age of 55)
4. I'd rather not have the Idiocrasy population running around spreading their weak genes and poor choice making habits
5. Poison all cigarettes, immediate death upon smoking...failing death, at LEAST immediate impotency.
6. Take all the finances/materials of the newly dead, and repurpose them
7. Profit!

--it really doesn't matter what the labels say.. morans will still smoke.

Thank you Dr. Dickhead!

You'll get over it, stinky :)

Alcohol is poison and does to your liver what tobacco does to your lungs. Not to mention the social costs of violent drunks and drunk driving. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, and should stick to lifting weights and drinking rather than proscribing social policies.


The liver regenerates (up to a point). Lungs don't.

I smoked for 22 years. Hated it near the end. Switched to E-cigs in 2010. Never looked back. Started doing YouTube reviews last year.

Fark tobacco, but also fark the CDC for wasting time with crap like this. Smokers know it's bad. Non-smokers who want to start don't give a shiat that it's bad. Nothing short of forcing tobacco companies to manufacture cigarettes in the shape, colour and consistency of giant tumors will stop people from smoking -- and then they'd only stop because it's kind of embarrassing, not because it's bad.
 
2012-03-15 03:33:25 PM

uber humper: Smoking Farkers try this:


[www.goelectroniccigarettereview.com image 300x225]

I've been using a electronic cigarette for a few weeks and haven't touched a real one since. And that is after being a smoker for 15 years. I'll recommend it to anyone who is trying to quit.

It was about $50 bucks to start and now $2-$4 per day. Some refill the cartridges and is cheaper than that.


Yeah. WAY cheaper to fill tanks. 30ml bottle costs about $15.00. 1ml is equivalent to a pack of smokes.
 
2012-03-15 03:35:31 PM

Psychopusher: The liver regenerates (up to a point). Lungs don't.


The cilia grows back. After 10 years from quiting the change of lung cancer is about that of a someone who has never smoked.

WebMD (new window)
 
2012-03-15 03:35:56 PM

Goose4: firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: soopey: firefaery29: I quit two weeks ago using Chantix, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
.

How many murderous dreams have you had?

No murderous ones. Some really vivid mind bending ones, but no nightmares. I've been on it 3 weeks and I seem to have avoided the especially crazy side-effects. It's honestly been the easiest time I've ever had quitting. Obviously that's not true for everyone who tries Chantix, but it is for me.

Cool. A couple of my co-workers tried it and said the thoughts and dreams they had scared the crap out of them. I went on the patch instead (again). Three weeks so far so good but I've been fighting a cold and cough for the last week which has helped keep down the urge to smoke.

Yeah, I've heard all the horror stories, and I'm in Fort Worth, Texas so was right here when the guy in Dallas went crazy on it and killed himself. I was nervous starting it but figured if I noticed changes I could just stop taking it. I like it b/c it's not a nicotine substitute like gum or the patch, it actually blocks your receptors and reduces cravings. It also made smoking taste really, really nasty. I'd already cut down to just a few a day when my one week quit day came. The only side effects I have regularly are nausea and a brief headache right after I take it, but if I make sure to take it with a meal I don't get them. Good luck, I'm so glad I quit, I wish I'd never started. I've already noticed physical improvements, mainly with breathing.

Well, he's not smoking anymore, is he?


So true. Thanks to Chantix he is 100% smoke free.
 
2012-03-15 03:36:51 PM
uber humper: The cilia grows back. After 10 years from quiting the change of lung cancer is about that of a someone who has never smoked.

And after two hours, the Alcohol Dehydrogenase of a healthy person who consumed one 8 oz drink is completely finished with the metabolism of ethanol, with no damage to the liver.
 
2012-03-15 03:38:02 PM

umad: ph0rk: umad: When you go out of your way to pick a fight, don't be surprised when people fight back. You thin-skinned motherfarkers can all go fark yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, pissing off your ilk is the best side-effect that cigarettes have.

you sound awfully irritated at those thin-skinned motherfarkers.

You're right. The next time one walks by and "coughs" I will walk right behind them until I am finished with my smoke. I think I have been being way too passive with my live and let live ways. It's time to be an obnoxious dick in an effort to convince a few of them to start smoking.


I called this one woman a "farking coont" when she did this. she was appalled.
 
2012-03-15 03:44:50 PM

BronyMedic: Nrokreffefp: Alcohol is poison and does to your liver what tobacco does to your lungs. Not to mention the social costs of violent drunks and drunk driving. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, and should stick to lifting weights and drinking rather than proscribing social policies.

The only problem with that is that the body has evolved the mechanisms to handle small amounts of Ethanol Alcohol so that it is not poisonous and damaging, and that small amounts consumed sporadically are linked with a lessened cardiovascular risk.


Are shots of distilled liquor small amounts? The guy advocating for cigarettes to be poisoned lists drinking as one of his primary passions in life, so I'm not guessing that would be sporadic either.
 
2012-03-15 03:46:09 PM
Nrokreffefp: Are shots of distilled liquor small amounts? The guy advocating for cigarettes to be poisoned lists drinking as one of his primary passions in life, so I'm not guessing that would be sporadic eithe

I don't think I was supporting that, mearly correcting an incorrect insinuation that because alcohol can cause liver cancer and damage, then it's just as harmful as cigarettes.
 
2012-03-15 03:57:38 PM

uber humper: Psychopusher: The liver regenerates (up to a point). Lungs don't.

The cilia grows back. After 10 years from quiting the change of lung cancer is about that of a someone who has never smoked.

WebMD (new window)


True. Until sometime in the 50s, damage to lung tissue caused by will reverse after a smoker quits. As the lung ages, though its ability to repair itself diminishes. BTW, smoking can cause emphysema, but only after many years of heavy smoking. And smoking is only one of the causes of emphysema. At least half the cases are caused by an alpha1-antitrypsin deficiency (trypsin literally slowly dissolves lung tissue). These people will develop emphysema whether they smoke or not. The same is true for people who live in urban areas, where ozone levels are high. Smoking can cause lung and other respiratory track cancers, but it doesn't always. It is only contributory. There are usually other risk factors present.
 
2012-03-15 03:59:29 PM
I want to try Chantix because I'm a borderline sociopath at this point and I think that would be enough to push me over the edge while giving me an excuse to blame my horrible deeds on. Win-win for me.
 
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