Fall in Light:

Ooh boy, so I'm learning. I was born and raised in the progressive bubble that is Madison, then moved to Milwaukee. Even my conservative family in the Fox Valley area is of the non-political, that's-your-business strain. I'm young and haven't been too involved in state politics for very long, so this is all a bit of a shock to my view of Wisconsin. But then again, it seems like a lot of people are surprised by the level of derpitude emerging all over the country.

I grew up in the Deep South (South Carolina) and moved to Milwaukee with my family in 1991. (I moved to Madison five years ago) The level of derp in Waukesha, Washington, and Ozaukee Counties at times made South Carolina look downright enlightened.

I think though the recall probably will go through because it wasn't just just Madison, Milwaukee, Racine-Kenosha, Janesville, and LaCrosse signing petitions; a fair percentage of the North Woods has had enough of Walker too.

Oh FFS. I actually had a sarcastic thought when I read that headline. "Let me guess, another WI GOP shiatstain." Then I clicked the article, and guess what.

I love my state so much, but we have really shiat the bed over the last year. These backwards farks need to get kicked out in numbers come June 5th. Then, the ones who aren't up for recall need to lose their seat next time around. It is unacceptable for people like this to have power in WI.

what_now: Everyone must serve the government is only a bad idea if you have a bad government. This works pretty well in Sweden.

Don't let him get away with that silly attempt to frame the issue. Public service is not "serving the government" - it's serving the public.

OgreMagi: /vote third party, because voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil

Allowing the greater evil to win would still be more evil. You know, because it's a greater evil.

/well... either evil or stupid

smeegle: remember the good times, back before things took an abusive turn, and maybe you'll fall in love again.

Thats just got red neck country song written all over it.

Here's a hint ladies. Hit me even once and its OVER forever. DONE Cya bye.

I hope some rogue intern cues up Martina McBride's "Independence Day" as this guy is walking onstage at his next event. Chances are he'd love it, totally missing the point.

Biological Ali: OgreMagi: /vote third party, because voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil

Allowing the greater evil to win would still be more evil. You know, because it's a greater evil.

/well... either evil or stupid

Continuing to put self-serving corrupt assholes in office because of a false perception that it's better than the alternative is more evil.

Think of it as breaking a drug addiction. Keep doing the drugs and keep destroying yourself, but eventually you'll reach a point of no return while you held off for a miracle cure. Or, quit doing drugs now. It's going to suck A LOT for a while, but eventually things will get better.

OgreMagi: /vote third party, because voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil

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OgreMagi: Continuing to put self-serving corrupt assholes in office because of a false perception that it's better than the alternative is more evil.

Think of it as breaking a drug addiction. Keep doing the drugs and keep destroying yourself, but eventually you'll reach a point of no return while you held off for a miracle cure. Or, quit doing drugs now. It's going to suck A LOT for a while, but eventually things will get better.

Sure, let's stick with the drug analogy. Do you know how drug addicts are typically treated once they're sent to rehab?

RanDomino: OgreMagi
It's going to suck A LOT for a while, but eventually things will get better.

Things won't just "get" better. A new system has to be proposed and organized.

What new system did you have in mind?

Anyone trace it back to the source and find out what both of those state senators actually said? This is being filtered through Jezebel which is not the most reliable of sources since they tend to misstate and exaggerate their stories in going for the sensational.

Biological Ali: OgreMagi: Continuing to put self-serving corrupt assholes in office because of a false perception that it's better than the alternative is more evil.

Think of it as breaking a drug addiction. Keep doing the drugs and keep destroying yourself, but eventually you'll reach a point of no return while you held off for a miracle cure. Or, quit doing drugs now. It's going to suck A LOT for a while, but eventually things will get better.

Sure, let's stick with the drug analogy. Do you know how drug addicts are typically treated once they're sent to rehab?

Methadone. Which is an even worse drug than heroin. I didn't say it was a perfect analogy.

RanDomino: OgreMagi
It's going to suck A LOT for a while, but eventually things will get better.

Things won't just "get" better. A new system has to be proposed and organized.

I don't think the system is completely broken. It's the automatic re-election of corrupt assholes that is the problem because they have you convinced that the "other guy" is evil and must be stopped. Of course, the other person running is saying the exact same thing.

If the people would stop falling for this bullshiat and start voting them out of office and not voting in more of the same, we have the potential of getting public servants that are actually public servants.

Good! It's about time Republicans actually started following the Bible.

Loving their enemies and helping the poor comes next.

gilgigamesh: The untold story of the 2010 election cycle is that the GOP had big, sweeping victories in state legislatures and gubernatorial elections. Expect untold levels of derp to flow forth from state capitols across this great land for years to come.

Oh, and be sure to enjoy it, American public. The ones who voted these backwoods yahoos into office, and the ones who didn't bother to vote at all.

You asked for this, and you so, so richly deserve it.

On the one hand, I agree with this notion. On the other hand, since I voted Democrat and the occasional third party, I still have to sleep in the bed that everyone else shiat in.

OgreMagi: Methadone. Which is an even worse drug than heroin. I didn't say it was a perfect analogy.

I reckon it was closer to the mark than you think. Trying to achieve the perfect final outcome in one fell swoop rather than going through the many intermediate steps isn't a reliable recipe for success. More likely, you'll end up having wasted your efforts, or even unwittingly exacerbating the situation.

Biological Ali: OgreMagi: Methadone. Which is an even worse drug than heroin. I didn't say it was a perfect analogy.

I reckon it was closer to the mark than you think. Trying to achieve the perfect final outcome in one fell swoop rather than going through the many intermediate steps isn't a reliable recipe for success. More likely, you'll end up having wasted your efforts, or even unwittingly exacerbating the situation.

Actually, after thinking about it, I believe the heroin/methadone analogy is a perfect fit. The heroin is the "other guy". The methadone is your guy. He's convinced you he's the fix for the problem, but in reality you are even more farked than before.

Note that I do not assign party affiliation to the two drugs since it works either way.

OgreMagi: the lessor of two evils

When it comes to evil, never lease - always buy.

OgreMagi: you can vote however you wish with a clear conscious

I'm pretty sure they won't let you vote if you're unconscious.

(Sloppy writing correlates strongly with sloppy thinking.)

Ambivalence: what_now: But really, when the left complains about the "war on women" they're just biatching for no reason.

If I get told one more time to stop being "so sensitive" about this....

Or have someone ask you, "Why are you so angry?" Because playing nice has worked so well for us so far.

serpent_sky: Via Infinito: At least we're not in a country where you have to commit suicide because the court ordered you to marry your rapist and live with his family instead of punishing him.

Wow, that's as good as the time the abusive alcoholic I was with told me "at least I am not on crack".

I mean, I guess there are silver linings, but... if that's the best silver lining we can come up with, we're in trouble.

*gives big hug and much kittens for having to deal with an abuser*

Which of these things is not a Republican woman:

1. A drain

2. A knothole in fence

3. A modified vibrating sander

4. Ann Coulter

5. Dominican boys

6. College intern

7. A canole

8. The 9th hole if no-one is looking

hubiestubert: 2wolves: hubiestubert: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 300x89]

Good for God! Good for the country!

Rah, rah, R.A.H.!

I just want to grab the leadership and say,

IT'S NOT A GODDAMN INSTRUCTION MANUAL!

I feel the same about this:



We don't want the Republic of Gilead, thank you

I'd almost trade for this that what my state's doing...at least this is the kind of derp that a court can overturn. What my state is doing - beginning to phase out the state income tax and reduce state revenues by a third, with only loophole closings and exemption eliminations to fill the gap - can't get thrown out by a judge.

This sh*t makes me violent. Against Republicans. I hope these people die in the most horrible way possible.

OgreMagi: Actually, after thinking about it, I believe the heroin/methadone analogy is a perfect fit. The heroin is the "other guy". The methadone is your guy. He's convinced you he's the fix for the problem, but in reality you are even more farked than before.

Note that I do not assign party affiliation to the two drugs since it works either way.

Sure. But when you hear drug addicts telling you they'd rather not go to rehab because they prefer the purely hypothetical scenario in which they simply will themselves not to take drugs, one would generally find that to be, at best, overly optimistic. Or. perhaps, they're just using the spectre of methadone addiction to rationalize a course of action that has done nothing but exacerbate the real problems in the here and now.

It's one of the curses of human imagination is that it's always possible to conceive of something better, something more perfect than that which even your own best efforts can realistically bring about.

apoptotic: smeegle: remember the good times, back before things took an abusive turn, and maybe you'll fall in love again.

Thats just got red neck country song written all over it.

Here's a hint ladies. Hit me even once and its OVER forever. DONE Cya bye.

I hope some rogue intern cues up Martina McBride's "Independence Day" as this guy is walking onstage at his next event. Chances are he'd love it, totally missing the point.

Hannity used to use it as bumper music in his show. Just like Reagan with "Born in the USA," these guys are absolutely clueless about music.

Only thing dumber I've seen lately was Motley Crue being used for a Kia ad.

Kia: The affordable choice for committing vehicular manslaughter.

okay, I give, I guess we are all overcome by the DERP here! Remember us in years to come.......

BMulligan: OgreMagi: the lessor of two evils

When it comes to evil, never lease - always buy.

OgreMagi: you can vote however you wish with a clear conscious

I'm pretty sure they won't let you vote if you're unconscious.

(Sloppy writing correlates strongly with sloppy thinking.)

Being a spelling nazi indicates you have nothing of substance to contribute to this debate.

WorldCitizen: rynthetyn: WorldCitizen: OgreMagi: /vote third party, because voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil

I tell you what, I will be happy to vote 3rd party when it comes a time that doing so doesn't just mean that the GREATER of the 2 evils is even more likely to get elected.

I wish we didn't even have parties but instead chose our best and brightest as candidates and elected them as individuals. I certainly do not believe in loyalty to a party. However, I also am not about to do something in some vain protest that makes it even more likely that the person MOST ideologically opposed to me is going to be in power.

*cough*Ralph Nader*cough*

Seriously. I wonder if Nader ever has trouble sleeping at night thinking about all the people who might not have died related to the Iraq war if Gore would have won Florida with the votes Nader took there.

It's not Ralph Nader's fault that Bush won in 2000... It's the fault of all of the people who voted for Nader. Perhaps we should be asking those people how they sleep at night.