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(Den Of Geek)   Why Hollywood finally needs to make a Lovecraft movie. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn   (denofgeek.com) divider line 131
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2012-03-14 06:50:42 AM  
I know it's not a Lovecraft adaptation exactly, but Frank Darabont's "The Mist" came pretty close, from a "man on the street" POV.
 
2012-03-14 06:53:23 AM  
 
2012-03-14 06:54:21 AM  
Only if Benicio Del Toro writes and directs...but I wouldn't mind seeing what Peter Jackson could do with the source material. I'm not sure if there's any other writer/director out there who could do justice to Lovecraft's imagination.
 
2012-03-14 06:54:25 AM  
Gesundheit.
 
2012-03-14 06:58:54 AM  

Wolfen067: Only if Benicio Del Toro writes and directs...but I wouldn't mind seeing what Peter Jackson could do with the source material. I'm not sure if there's any other writer/director out there who could do justice to Lovecraft's imagination.


I think you mean Guiliamo del Toro and if so I agree with you
 
2012-03-14 07:03:25 AM  
Ghostbusters had an underlying element of Lovecraftian horror.

It starts with low level Sanity Point eaters like human-looking normal ghosts (NYPL ghost), then moved up warped-bodied ghosts (Slimer) to a pastiche of Elder God minions (Zuul and Vinz Klortho), then finally do battle with an Elder God pastiche (Gozer). Mentions of forbidden tomes (Tobin's Spirit Guide) and cultists who perform human sacrifice (Ivo Shandor) and other unidentified creatures in Gozer's bestiary (Torb, Sloar, Shub).

This general idea was drowned out and became background noise because of the jokes, and the misleading and limiting title "Ghostbusters".
 
2012-03-14 07:08:27 AM  

Confabulat: I know it's not a Lovecraft adaptation exactly, but Frank Darabont's "The Mist" came pretty close, from a "man on the street" POV.


This. I'd add "The Descent" as well. It had that whole 'devolved humans' thing that Howard was so fond of.


Sadly, Lovecraft is a like Stephen King. Most of his stories work on a gut level, and are more about atmosphere. Damn difficult to capture on film using cgi and rubber monsters.
 
2012-03-14 07:08:45 AM  
In the mouth of madness?
 
2012-03-14 07:14:19 AM  
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Pretty sure that's already Lindsay Lohan's dialogue from her next movie.
 
2012-03-14 07:16:08 AM  
HPLHS also recently made The Whisperer in the Darkness, and that was a fine film as well.
 
2012-03-14 07:27:54 AM  
Would love to see Guilarmo Del Toro take on a In the Mountians of Madness film, with all the funding he needs.

Last I heard James Cameron was his backer for this project, is that no longer true?

/didn't RTFA
 
2012-03-14 07:30:30 AM  
Do we really want Hollywood to ruin this for us too? I prefer the film in my mind to anything they could throw up on the screen.

Example: John Carter
 
2012-03-14 07:41:00 AM  
i would love to watch a lovecraftian film under a gibbious moon
 
2012-03-14 07:41:21 AM  
One of the worst Lovecraft film adaptations I've seen recently is 'Dagon', based on 'The Shadow Over Innsmouth' (Lovecraft's original short story 'Dagon' had nothing to do with it). Cheesy acting and effects. I was disappointed when I heard that 'At The Mountains of Madness' had been cancelled. Sounds like it might have been pretty good.
 
2012-03-14 07:41:31 AM  

stupiddream: Do we really want Hollywood to ruin this for us too? I prefer the film in my mind to anything they could throw up on the screen.

Example: John Carter


Yeah, do they expect Hollywood to actually achieve quality? Because if Fark threads about movie have taught me anything, its that no one will be happy and that we actually anticipate failure.

Example: World War Z
 
2012-03-14 07:41:39 AM  
Actually watched the film "Dagon" The other night, and the first thirty minutes were great, then I fell asleep.

/really, Ridley Scott - how can you pass up this opportunity?!
 
2012-03-14 07:42:30 AM  

Deftoons: Would love to see Guilarmo Del Toro take on a In the Mountians of Madness film, with all the funding he needs.

Last I heard James Cameron was his backer for this project, is that no longer true?

/didn't RTFA


Got axed when he wouldn't budge on the hard R rating. Universal had just had a terrible year after Wolfman and Scott Pilgrim and didn't want to risk a bloody R film that kids couldn't see.
 
2012-03-14 07:45:44 AM  

Deftoons: Would love to see Guilarmo Del Toro take on a In the Mountians of Madness film, with all the funding he needs.

Last I heard James Cameron was his backer for this project, is that no longer true?

/didn't RTFA


The studio already had cold feet about the cost when they yanked it. After seeing what happened to John Carter, I doubt they're questioning themselves on it. A pity, but better no movie than one that sucks.
 
2012-03-14 07:49:54 AM  
I haven't seen John Carter but one complaint I've read is that we've already seen most of it after George Lucas and a million other filmmakers already picked over the bones of the original stories, so even though it was first it still feels like a ripoff to today's movie-goers.

Lovecraft could suffer the same fate. We've all seen portals of evil and giant horrible monsters living under the ice by now. Something like "In the Mouth of Madness" would have trouble with comparisons to "The Thing" after all. It would be a shame to get an excellent adaptation and have people just think they've been there, done that already.
 
2012-03-14 07:50:17 AM  

machodonkeywrestler: In the mouth of madness?


Terrific movie with an excellent Lovecraft vibe to it. It's one of Carpenter's best.
 
2012-03-14 07:53:26 AM  

Dog Welder: machodonkeywrestler: In the mouth of madness?

Terrific movie with an excellent Lovecraft vibe to it. It's one of Carpenter's best.


ha I just made that mistake too, even when comparing it to a Carpenter flick, ha.
 
2012-03-14 07:59:00 AM  
Lovecraft, A. Merritt, Manly Wade Wellman, just to name a few from that era. Also, Howard's Steve Costigan,stories would make a great movie. There's so much great untouched stuff from the pulp years.
 
2012-03-14 08:02:29 AM  

stupiddream: Do we really want Hollywood to ruin this for us too? I prefer the film in my mind to anything they could throw up on the screen.

Example: John Carter


John Carter is pretty looking and all that, but why couldn't they keep it closer to the book.
 
2012-03-14 08:03:08 AM  
Re-animator and From Beyond. I don't recall how much they follow the stories, but they are based upon H.P. Lovecraft tales.
 
2012-03-14 08:06:44 AM  
I don't want it to be a CGI crapfest, though.

Lovecraft does describe his monsters really well, but for truly horrifying stuff he says it's too intense to mention, so you have to use your imagination as to how frightening something is.
 
2012-03-14 08:08:23 AM  
I haven't seen Re-Animator in like 20 years, but that is a fine B-movie right there. Not exactly too attached to the whole Cthulhu mythology though. Still, fun flick.
 
2012-03-14 08:17:41 AM  
It wasn't entirely accurate to the original but "The Resurrected" was a decent Lovecraft movie (based on The Case of Charles Dexter Ward).
 
2012-03-14 08:18:54 AM  
There have been plenty of Lovecraftian films, and most of them have been bad.

Thank the elder gods for the good folk at the HPLHS.
 
2012-03-14 08:23:36 AM  

shivashakti: It wasn't entirely accurate to the original but "The Resurrected" was a decent Lovecraft movie (based on The Case of Charles Dexter Ward).


Not the best adaptation, but a good movie: The Haunted Palace with Vincent Price. (^)
 
2012-03-14 08:38:03 AM  

Gulper Eel: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Pretty sure that's already Lindsay Lohan's dialogue from her next movie.


Yeah, that and moaning, most likely.
 
2012-03-14 08:39:47 AM  
From Beyond was terrible. But mid-'90s CG cheesecake with terrible acting and reference to the hypothalamus. Whut.
 
2012-03-14 08:44:18 AM  
Delta Green--Lovecraftian horror with an X-files/conspiracy vibe.
 
2012-03-14 08:47:28 AM  
Cloverfield is kind of a Lovecraftian film.
 
2012-03-14 08:53:29 AM  
There have been. There have been TV versions as well.

To be fair, I would LOVE to see Guillermo del Toro do a straight up adaptation of some Lovecraft, but pretty much most of his work is already fairly Lovecraftian, from Cronus to his Hellboy movies, only without much fanfare in the titles. Lovecraft has sunk his post-mortum nails into a lot of work--even the entirely terrible Event Horizon which had Sam Neil apparently trying to make up for In the Mouth of Madness and keeping his sucky movies quotient even.

To be fair, Joss Whedon would do fine with Crawling Horror--again, the influence is already there, though Whedon likes to deconstruct genres a bit more than del Toro.

There are few movies that straight up have tentacled chaos spilling up, while violent space fungi sing from their glowing depths to the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, but the influence is certainly there in dozens upon dozens of films.
 
2012-03-14 09:00:04 AM  

danvon: Re-animator and From Beyond. I don't recall how much they follow the stories, but they are based upon H.P. Lovecraft tales.


Or, y'know, Call of Cthulhu, which has been made into a movie at least twice, or the Dunwich Horror which has been made at least once.

Confabulat: Lovecraft could suffer the same fate. We've all seen portals of evil and giant horrible monsters living under the ice by now. Something like "In the Mouth of Madness" would have trouble with comparisons to "The Thing" after all. It would be a shame to get an excellent adaptation and have people just think they've been there, done that already.


Um, "In the Mouth of Madness" isn't a Lovecraft story, it's a John Carpenter movie, which is a "spiritual sequel" to the Thing, but actually isn't very similar to the Thing at all. It's based generally on Lovecraft, but more the Color Out of Space or one of the earlier investigator-based stories than anything involving Antarctica.

If you're talking about "In the Mountains of Madness", that also makes no sense as it has about as much in common with "The Thing" as "Escape from New York" has with "My Dog Skip". Being set on the same continent is where the resemblance ends.

//For reference, "The Thing" is based on "Who Goes There?" By John Campbell, who published in some of the same magazines as Lovecraft, but that's about as far as the connection goes. Different prose style, different plot style, significantly different characters, and, honestly, different genres entirely for the most part.
 
2012-03-14 09:00:39 AM  

machodonkeywrestler: In the mouth of madness?


I was going to mention that too, but while it was a fantastic movie, in retrospect it wasn't explicitly Sutter Cane Lovecraft, even though it had plenty of references.
 
2012-03-14 09:06:45 AM  
there is already a great lovecraft movie out there.

http://arkhambazaar.com/films/the-whisperer-in-darkness-dvd?zenid=gba 9 b9odnu51tsk2dsokaf5bb2


-helghast
 
2012-03-14 09:09:09 AM  
Well, they made "Dagon" a few years back which is based on Lovecraft lore. Though not the greatest movie, I didn't think it was terrible. Others have mentioned "In the Mouth of Madness", "Re-Animator", there's also "From Beyond" which is a cheesy 80's movie inspired by Lovecraft.
 
2012-03-14 09:09:56 AM  
Never got around to reading any Lovecraft ... anyone have suggestions on how to get started?

I really haven't read a lot of horror; more of a hard sci fi Baxter/Clarke reader. I read a few King and Koontz books, but really didn't like them. I love Dan Simmons's horror books, though.
 
2012-03-14 09:13:16 AM  

Jake Havechek: I don't want it to be a CGI crapfest, though.

Lovecraft does describe his monsters really well, but for truly horrifying stuff he says it's too intense to mention, so you have to use your imagination as to how frightening something is.


Agreed- it can be done, but everyone relies too much on CGI these days. I watched Alien again last month, and was surprised at how well they did the monster there- genius design, good models, and kept the alien out of sight most of the time. The Nostromo itself was hopelessly dated (tiny, green CRTs everywhere), but the alien itself still looks better than anything out there now.
 
2012-03-14 09:18:38 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Um, "In the Mouth of Madness" isn't a Lovecraft story


Yeah I know, I already apologized for misspeaking. But it's not like that title was chosen randomly to not make us think of anything else...
 
2012-03-14 09:21:36 AM  

Lernaeus: Never got around to reading any Lovecraft ... anyone have suggestions on how to get started?

I really haven't read a lot of horror; more of a hard sci fi Baxter/Clarke reader. I read a few King and Koontz books, but really didn't like them. I love Dan Simmons's horror books, though.


Call of Cthulhu is the most popular and very good, but be sure to check out The Music of Erich Zahn.
 
2012-03-14 09:25:19 AM  
"Dagon" wasn't great, and I watched it on the recommentdation that some woman walked around starkers for most of the movie, which was totes a lie. I enjoyed Zadock remembering his youth in the village though, that actor could tell a story.

Mind you, I really liked Dan Gildark's "Cthulhu" for capturing the themes of alienation, self-loathing, and dreams perfectly. The ending is especially beautiful, and I can see why the director used every frame of that long tracking shot.

My complaint with schlock like the "From Beyond" movie is that it completely misses the point of seeing stuff at right angles to reality, is that it's not rubber monsters, it's incomprehensible. I think something more like the bit in the awful 2012 movie when they're trying to take off in the plane would be better, which was a wonderful sense of vertigo and dropping off into space.

If I were making a Lovecraft-esque movie it would be non-steam-punk turn-of-the-century period, following the investigation of a cult, like the Horror at Red Hook, with the nastiness slowly creeping in, using a combination of elements on the screen to slowly resolve the monster into the frame. Basically it woud start out as the apparently random arrangement of background objects casting interesting shadows, and slowly be moved into the foreground like a mimic octopus slowly changing colours.
 
2012-03-14 09:27:04 AM  
There have been no 'good' Lovecraft movies ever made.

Ever.

My point is proven by the fact that we have not found whole audiences driven insane by the sheer horror of a true Lovecraft movie.

Or perhaps it is because the movies can't get to be good because the cast and crew go insane working on it.
 
GOB
2012-03-14 09:27:59 AM  

Lernaeus: Never got around to reading any Lovecraft ... anyone have suggestions on how to get started?

I really haven't read a lot of horror; more of a hard sci fi Baxter/Clarke reader. I read a few King and Koontz books, but really didn't like them. I love Dan Simmons's horror books, though.


If you love hard sci-fi, I'd skip Lovecraft and start reading Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space Series. Very dark, creepy images and themes, but definitely a hard sci-fi space opera though, not a horror.
 
2012-03-14 09:31:34 AM  

wingnut396: There have been no 'good' Lovecraft movies ever made.

Ever.

My point is proven by the fact that we have not found whole audiences driven insane by the sheer horror of a true Lovecraft movie.

Or perhaps it is because the movies can't get to be good because the cast and crew go insane working on it.


Don't give them the idea. They'll turn Nyarlathotep into another Blair Witch Project.
 
2012-03-14 09:31:46 AM  

GOB: If you love hard sci-fi, I'd skip Lovecraft and start reading Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space Series. Very dark, creepy images and themes, but definitely a hard sci-fi space opera though, not a horror.


On the same note, also try Peter Watts' Blindsight.
 
2012-03-14 09:35:11 AM  

Confabulat: Jim_Callahan: Um, "In the Mouth of Madness" isn't a Lovecraft story

Yeah I know, I already apologized for misspeaking. But it's not like that title was chosen randomly to not make us think of anything else...


By that measure, there has never been a Lovecraft movie. All the "Lovecraft" movies made have been so far removed from the original texts that all you can claim is that they are movies inspired by the Lovecraft Mythos, which "In the Mouth of Madness" fits to a T.
 
2012-03-14 09:38:59 AM  

Gulper Eel: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Pretty sure that's already Lindsay Lohan's dialogue from her next movie.


I thought it was Sasha Grey's.
 
2012-03-14 09:39:30 AM  

Lernaeus: Never got around to reading any Lovecraft ... anyone have suggestions on how to get started?

I really haven't read a lot of horror; more of a hard sci fi Baxter/Clarke reader. I read a few King and Koontz books, but really didn't like them. I love Dan Simmons's horror books, though.


I would just recommend H.P. Lovecraft: The Complete Fiction Link (new window)

It's the cheapest way to get all his stuff and Barnes and Noble has it quite often. The annotated stories by ST Joshi is also good but better after you've read them once and have decided to geek out on it.

And for everyone in this thread I'm going to recommend Manly Wade Wellman, especially his Silver John stories. They are simply fantastic.
 
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