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(Politico)   Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) likes Newt Gingrich so much that he couldn't stop himself from donating an illegal amount of money to the former House speaker's campaign   (politico.com ) divider line
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2012-03-13 05:34:17 PM  
So, he's either a criminal or a he's a guy who is very bad at math who loves to make fun of scientists.

Can't he be both?
 
2012-03-13 05:43:59 PM  
Meh, I can't get worked up over it. Situation is rectified, doesn't seem like they were trying to hide anything in particular. Still "meh".
 
2012-03-13 05:45:33 PM  
Just one problem: the legal committee-to-committee contribution limit is $2,000 per election, and the FEC is calling Barton on it. "This was a mistake on our end and we should have recorded it as a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 primary election, and a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 general election,"

cop: 'you have 2 ounces of cannabis in your glove compartment.'
suspect: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
cop: 'you have the right to remain silent...'

FEC: 'you illegally exceeded campaign financing laws.'
powerful GOP politican: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
FEC: 'ok, fine but make sure this doesn't happen again!'
 
2012-03-13 06:07:34 PM  

Weaver95: cop: 'you have 2 ounces of cannabis in your glove compartment.'
suspect: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
cop: 'you have the right to remain silent...'

FEC: 'you illegally exceeded campaign financing laws.'
powerful GOP politican: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
FEC: 'ok, fine but make sure this doesn't happen again!'


I think most of us agree that possession laws are stupid, so I don't really know what you're getting at here?
 
2012-03-13 06:42:03 PM  
funny headline subby
 
2012-03-13 06:44:43 PM  
he should have incorporated himself
 
2012-03-13 06:46:32 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I think most of us agree that possession laws are stupid, so I don't really know what you're getting at here?


I think his point is, if someone commits a crime and there is no repercussion for committing that crime then there is not any deterrent in not committing that crime. Because if you get caught you could always undo it and not lose anything. But If you don't get caught you get away with it. So there is no loss in trying to commit the crime.

It's like if you were caught robbing a house the "penalty" was only to give the stuff back.
 
2012-03-13 06:47:42 PM  
I love the congressman's committee's treasurer's explanation for it: they really meant to contribute $2k to the primary election, $2k to the general election, and get $1k cash back. It's just so cute.
 
2012-03-13 06:49:28 PM  

NewportBarGuy: So, he's either a criminal or a he's a guy who is very bad at math who loves to make fun of scientists.

Can't he be both?


Not to mention he's never met environmental pollution he didn't like or a polluter that was wrong (once the check cleared)
 
2012-03-13 06:52:31 PM  
I'm so dissapointed that they have redrawn the district lines here. I was really, really wanting to vote against this guy.
 
2012-03-13 06:54:04 PM  

Starry Heavens: I love the congressman's committee's treasurer's explanation for it: they really meant to contribute $2k to the primary election, $2k to the general election, and get $1k cash back. It's just so cute.


He's apparently putting his campaign donations on his debit card.
 
2012-03-13 07:01:06 PM  
Joe Barton? Isn't he the Texas Republican that apologized to BP after the Gulf oil spill because Obama was 'shaking down the company' by asking them to set aside funds for clean-up?

estergoldberg.typepad.com
Why yes, it is.



MEDICARE? Who needs it?
 
2012-03-13 07:01:59 PM  
Well, really now - who hasn't had this happen to them? You intend to donate a legal amount to the candidate of your choice, and then your pen slips and you accidently donate more.
I do that all the time.
 
2012-03-13 07:07:46 PM  
The headline further down the page made me LOL:

POSTAL WORKERS LAUNCH OFFENSIVE:
 
2012-03-13 07:26:13 PM  
i54.tinypic.com
 
2012-03-13 07:31:46 PM  
Maybe he can just apologize to the oil industry becasue the government is oppressing BP by making them pay for the pollution they caused.

Its like that lawyer that Dick Cheney shot in the face apologizing to Dick Cheney. "Sorry for blocking your buckshot with my face."
 
2012-03-13 07:43:54 PM  

Weaver95: Just one problem: the legal committee-to-committee contribution limit is $2,000 per election, and the FEC is calling Barton on it. "This was a mistake on our end and we should have recorded it as a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 primary election, and a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 general election,"

cop: 'you have 2 ounces of cannabis in your glove compartment.'
suspect: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
cop: 'you have the right to remain silent...'

FEC: 'you illegally exceeded campaign financing laws.'
powerful GOP politican: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
FEC: 'ok, fine but make sure this doesn't happen again!'


Dealers don't take weed back.
 
2012-03-13 07:46:13 PM  
Maybe he's a big fan of ethics violations. Imitation is the highest form of flattery, you know.
 
2012-03-13 07:49:01 PM  
Joey Barton is a coont.

...this isn't about soccer?

Joe Barton is a coont.
 
2012-03-13 07:53:56 PM  
Overzealous staffer with a checkbook. Nothing to see here.
 
2012-03-13 08:11:43 PM  

Weaver95: FEC: 'you illegally exceeded campaign financing laws.'
powerful GOP politican: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
FEC: 'ok, fine but make sure this doesn't happen again!'



To be fair, that's pretty much how government regulation treats any business.

I used to work for an unethical boss, and this is how he explained it:
Step 1 - Break the law as part of your business
Step 2 - Wait for the government to notice, could be months or years
Step 3 - Fight the government and continue to do what you were doing
Step 4 - Once you've exhausted your options, negotiate a settlement. This usually results in you issuing an apology, promising not to do the same thing again, and paying a token fine which is nothing compared to the money you made or saved.
Step 5 - Keep doing whatever it was you were doing (may need to wait a few months before starting back up depending on what it was you were doing)
Step 6 - Go back to step 1

At some point the government will get serious and actually force you to stop what you are doing, but there's usually no criminal charges (after all, you don't usually hold the CEO/employees responsible for what the "company" did). A good lawyer will let you know when its no longer safe to keep repeating the process. Often though, the business model will have moved on long before the government gets that serious.
 
2012-03-13 08:28:45 PM  
You LIE, Subs!

/ I know, wrong Joe.

// Doesn't matter. Proud retarded hicks in Congress. Whoooopdeeshiat.
 
2012-03-13 09:36:12 PM  

NewportBarGuy: So, he's either a criminal or a he's a guy who is very bad at math who loves to make fun of scientists.

Can't he be both?


Most of the time, yes. But in this case, he's just a criminal.
 
2012-03-13 10:25:02 PM  

ShawnDoc: To be fair, that's pretty much how government regulation treats any business.


Depends on your business. Try dealing with MSHA or FRA.
 
2012-03-13 10:35:47 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I think most of us agree that possession laws are stupid, so I don't really know what you're getting at here?


I do believe he's pointing out the double standard between the "ruling class" and the rest of us.
 
2012-03-13 11:21:06 PM  
what the f*ck do you mean 'illegal amount,' i thought the whole point of Citizens United was to allow unlimited donations from anywhere, anywhen, anyWAHR BEEF CURTAINS
 
2012-03-13 11:51:41 PM  

Weaver95: Just one problem: the legal committee-to-committee contribution limit is $2,000 per election, and the FEC is calling Barton on it. "This was a mistake on our end and we should have recorded it as a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 primary election, and a $2,000 contribution to the 2012 general election,"

cop: 'you have 2 ounces of cannabis in your glove compartment.'
suspect: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
cop: 'you have the right to remain silent...'

FEC: 'you illegally exceeded campaign financing laws.'
powerful GOP politican: 'whoops! my bad! here, i'll put it back where I found it. see! nobody has to go to jail!'
FEC: 'ok, fine but make sure this doesn't happen again!'


GOP politician: It won't (I'll just change the rules).
 
2012-03-14 04:51:59 AM  

Weaver95: cop: 'you have 2 ounces of cannabis in your glove compartment.'


Uncured, or giant compartment?
 
2012-03-14 06:22:32 AM  
Corvus:
TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I think most of us agree that possession laws are stupid, so I don't really know what you're getting at here?

I think his point is, if someone commits a crime and there is no repercussion for committing that crime then there is not any deterrent in not committing that crime. Because if you get caught you could always undo it and not lose anything. But If you don't get caught you get away with it. So there is no loss in trying to commit the crime.

It's like if you were caught robbing a house the "penalty" was only to give the stuff back.


Even better is when there's a fine, but the fine is negligible compared to the gains from the crime. You pay the fine and everything's legally squared away, except you still benefit...

The governing party here (Canada) violated electoral law by "laundering" $1.3 million through their local ass'ns to get around federal campaign spending laws. The fine? $25,000. That's a ~2% "cost of doing business": hardly a deterrent, especially since they then won the election.
 
2012-03-14 08:04:20 AM  
Although it's not like egomaniac Gingrich has a chance in hell.
 
2012-03-14 08:59:44 AM  
Texas is full of asses like him... Lamarr Smith, Joe Barton. Why do people keep voting for them?

/Lives in texas, different district though.
 
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