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(Alobama)   Is it Tuesday again already? Fine, then, let's have another set of Republican primaries. Alabama and Mississippi close at 8pm ET, insomniacs can stick around for Hawaii (closes at 2am ET)   (alabamavotes.gov ) divider line
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2012-03-13 10:44:27 PM  

bobbette: I genuinely think that Santorum could be a more dangerous opponent in the general than R-Moneybot 2000.

Nobody likes Romney! Except multi-millionaires who really love Israel.

People like Santorum, because he seems "nice", despite the fact that he is not and is waging a war against both gay and straight rights. He is also just enough of an idiot that people don't care what kind of fancy lettuce he eats.



He's got similar appeal to Sarah Palin's.
 
2012-03-13 10:44:46 PM  

rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Is the Santorum daughter standing behind him the one who was holding the creepy doll in the infamous picture?

Sure looks like it.

She's grown up to be the more attractive Santorum child. Speaking of Santorum children, is it just me or does his son in the sweater vest have a slight touch of gayface?


YES.

I've been speculating on his gayface for WEEKS but I didn't post anything about it.
 
2012-03-13 10:45:17 PM  
Oh look - now the GOP primary map is liberally spattered with Santorum.
 
2012-03-13 10:45:18 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?


Well, if about half of 'em think Obama is Muslim, and two-thirds don't believe in evolution, what do you want to bet about 90% of them think Puerto Ricans are foreigners?
 
2012-03-13 10:45:30 PM  
2008 GOP primary in Alabama 552,155 total votes
2008 GOP primary in Mississippi 588,926 total votes

No way Mississippi will break 300k votes this year.

Enthusiasm is sucking. Good.
 
2012-03-13 10:46:10 PM  

Gdiguy: ordinarysteve: I have to say that I will be impressed by Paul's sheer crazy old man stubbornness if he stays in this much longer.

Why? This is the perfect situation for him - his delegates might actually have significant value, so he might have actual power in the convention... but he's not actually siphoning votes in any significant way to effect the real race between Romney/Santorum, so there's not really any pressure on him to pull out of the primary from anyone.

Gingrich, especially after tonight, will at least have significant pressure to either drop out (if the GOP power brokers want Santorum to win), or stay in (if they would prefer to keep siphoning off votes) coming from outside his campaign... but I don't think anyone really cares about Paul


I'm fairly sure he's going to give his delegates to Romney in exchange for his son as VP. It might be close enough that those could put him over the top.
 
2012-03-13 10:46:11 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: You know, if Newt drops, Santorum could make Illinois mildly interesting. The southern half of the state is perfect for him. Combine that with some evidence tonight that even areas in which he should be doing well don't seem to have many farks to give Romney and it might be fun to watch him squirm while he blows a ton of cash there. If nothing else Santorum will make it close enough that the delegate split won't tilt very heavily towards Romney, ensuring we'll all have months more fun ahead of us.


Also, as pointed out by some... Chicago and the suburbs have gone more democratic, so, while Romney will do very well there, there aren't many republicans there, as opposed to the rest of the state, where Santorum would dominate. i think with no Newt, Santorum could pull off Illinois.
 
2012-03-13 10:46:38 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Oh look - now the GOP primary map is liberally spattered with Santorum.


Did Fox use brown for Santorum again? I watched CNN tonight.
 
2012-03-13 10:46:48 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?


When I was touring the USS Olympia in Philly, I was on deck talking to a Japanese tourist about the trouble finding the $10m to overhaul her - and the danger she was in of being scrapped or sunk as a reef. Some Jersian overheard us and went nuts saying, "You mean they can pay Puerto Ricans to come over here and have maggots but they can't find money to save this ship?"

I was too appalled and embarrassed to give him the right answer, which is, "You're standing on THE REASON Puerto Rico is part of the US."
 
2012-03-13 10:47:16 PM  

2wolves: 2008 GOP primary in Alabama 552,155 total votes
2008 GOP primary in Mississippi 588,926 total votes

No way Mississippi will break 300k votes this year.

Enthusiasm is sucking. Good.


Even better, the primary was completely decided by this point in 2008. This year there is a real contest. Maybe the voters are afraid of having to make an actual decision?
 
2012-03-13 10:47:19 PM  
MS was an open primary was AL?
 
2012-03-13 10:47:24 PM  
finally!
 
2012-03-13 10:47:32 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?

Well, if about half of 'em think Obama is Muslim, and two-thirds don't believe in evolution, what do you want to bet about 90% of them think Puerto Ricans are foreigners?


See my previous post.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:02 PM  

GAT_00: I don't think anyone really cares about Paul

I'm fairly sure he's going to give his delegates to Romney in exchange for his son as VP. It might be close enough that those could put him over the top.


VP? Nah, too important. Cabinet position? Sure.

As if he'll be elected.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:06 PM  

bobbette: Sabyen91: bugontherug: Romney will win the Old Confederacy. But because he is not a Christian1, evangelical turnout will be depressed in key states like Missouri, and key regions in other states, like the Florida panhandle. Romney's "electability" is illusory.

That is a good point. When I think "swing" state I don't think of Missouri and Arkansas and Virginia but I should as you are spot on that those states could turn on a moderate and not vote.

I genuinely think that Santorum could be a more dangerous opponent in the general than R-Moneybot 2000.

Nobody likes Romney! Except multi-millionaires who really love Israel.

People like Santorum, because he seems "nice", despite the fact that he is not and is waging a war against both gay and straight rights. He is also just enough of an idiot that people don't care what kind of fancy lettuce he eats.


I really don't think so. Santorum would hang onto the conservative strongholds but would have zero chance in FL, OH, PA, NM, CO, WI, IA, VT, NH. I just think there are way too many swing states that wouldn't vote for such a right wing fool.

/I may be an utter fool for believing this but I don't think he would be popular with anybody but the hard right. He has zero attraction for independents and moderates. Romney has a problem with that as well as he will have to swing back to the left but he has a better chance of courting the middle than Santorum.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:14 PM  

GAT_00: Gdiguy: ordinarysteve: I have to say that I will be impressed by Paul's sheer crazy old man stubbornness if he stays in this much longer.

Why? This is the perfect situation for him - his delegates might actually have significant value, so he might have actual power in the convention... but he's not actually siphoning votes in any significant way to effect the real race between Romney/Santorum, so there's not really any pressure on him to pull out of the primary from anyone.

Gingrich, especially after tonight, will at least have significant pressure to either drop out (if the GOP power brokers want Santorum to win), or stay in (if they would prefer to keep siphoning off votes) coming from outside his campaign... but I don't think anyone really cares about Paul

I'm fairly sure he's going to give his delegates to Romney in exchange for his son as VP. It might be close enough that those could put him over the top.


mormon jesus + aqua buddha? dunno if that's a winning combo.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:18 PM  

bugontherug: DarwiOdrade: Oh look - now the GOP primary map is liberally spattered with Santorum.

Did Fox use brown for Santorum again? I watched CNN tonight.


King at one point said, "Santorum is purple." I hadn't known that.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:18 PM  

2wolves: 2008 GOP primary in Alabama 552,155 total votes
2008 GOP primary in Mississippi 588,926 total votes

No way Mississippi will break 300k votes this year.

Enthusiasm is sucking. Good.


And that's WITH a closely-contested race.....I seem to remember that around this time in '08, McCain had it pretty much locked up.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:22 PM  
And what about Santorum in Texas?
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All hat. No chattel?
thirtysomethingsingledotcom.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-03-13 10:48:26 PM  

Gdiguy: ordinarysteve: I have to say that I will be impressed by Paul's sheer crazy old man stubbornness if he stays in this much longer.

Why? This is the perfect situation for him - his delegates might actually have significant value, so he might have actual power in the convention... but he's not actually siphoning votes in any significant way to effect the real race between Romney/Santorum, so there's not really any pressure on him to pull out of the primary from anyone.

Gingrich, especially after tonight, will at least have significant pressure to either drop out (if the GOP power brokers want Santorum to win), or stay in (if they would prefer to keep siphoning off votes) coming from outside his campaign... but I don't think anyone really cares about Paul


I guess, it just seems like 4 and 5% seems pretty hurtin'. I guess it makes sense as long as he doesn't expect to be the POTUS. Newt doesn't seem like the type of guy who's ego would allow him to concede defeat. Who knows, should be an interesting day tomorrow for the pundits.
 
2012-03-13 10:48:50 PM  

bobbette: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Is the Santorum daughter standing behind him the one who was holding the creepy doll in the infamous picture?

Sure looks like it.

She's grown up to be the more attractive Santorum child. Speaking of Santorum children, is it just me or does his son in the sweater vest have a slight touch of gayface?

YES.

I've been speculating on his gayface for WEEKS but I didn't post anything about it.


His body language and the way he was standing is kind of on the feminine side too. Then again, he wouldn't be the first homeschooled guy who pings because of spending too much of his formative years around women.
 
2012-03-13 10:49:44 PM  

Sabyen91: bobbette: Sabyen91: bugontherug: Romney will win the Old Confederacy. But because he is not a Christian1, evangelical turnout will be depressed in key states like Missouri, and key regions in other states, like the Florida panhandle. Romney's "electability" is illusory.

That is a good point. When I think "swing" state I don't think of Missouri and Arkansas and Virginia but I should as you are spot on that those states could turn on a moderate and not vote.

I genuinely think that Santorum could be a more dangerous opponent in the general than R-Moneybot 2000.

Nobody likes Romney! Except multi-millionaires who really love Israel.

People like Santorum, because he seems "nice", despite the fact that he is not and is waging a war against both gay and straight rights. He is also just enough of an idiot that people don't care what kind of fancy lettuce he eats.

I really don't think so. Santorum would hang onto the conservative strongholds but would have zero chance in FL, OH, PA, NM, CO, WI, IA, VT, NH. I just think there are way too many swing states that wouldn't vote for such a right wing fool.

/I may be an utter fool for believing this but I don't think he would be popular with anybody but the hard right. He has zero attraction for independents and moderates. Romney has a problem with that as well as he will have to swing back to the left but he has a better chance of courting the middle than Santorum.


Much has been made of some recent poll that showed Santorum beating Obama in the general.
 
2012-03-13 10:50:02 PM  
Houston County still under 1% reporting.

Math problems?
 
2012-03-13 10:50:04 PM  

Dahnkster: And what about Santorum in Texas?
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All hat. No chattel?


Santorum's head is too small for that hat. Just sayin'.
 
2012-03-13 10:50:17 PM  
CNN calls MS for Santorum!

I just ejaculated?
 
2012-03-13 10:50:34 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?

Well, if about half of 'em think Obama is Muslim, and two-thirds don't believe in evolution, what do you want to bet about 90% of them think Puerto Ricans are foreigners?


I'd be willing to bet most of them view P.C.ans as Mexicans.

No, I'm not joking.
 
2012-03-13 10:50:52 PM  

ordinarysteve: I have to say that I will be impressed by Paul's sheer crazy old man stubbornness if he stays in this much longer.


RON PAUL has no reason to drop out. As mentioned, he's not siphoning off any votes. RON PAUL voters are RON PAUL voters; except in VA (where Gingrich and Santorum weren't on the ballot) he's not contributing to or siphoning from any of the Not-Romney votes (which comprise the bulk of Santorum and Gingrich's votes.
 
2012-03-13 10:51:02 PM  
Frothy sweeps!
 
2012-03-13 10:51:15 PM  
Are tonight's states winner-take-all, or are they divided?
 
2012-03-13 10:51:29 PM  

vygramul: bugontherug: DarwiOdrade: Oh look - now the GOP primary map is liberally spattered with Santorum.

Did Fox use brown for Santorum again? I watched CNN tonight.

King at one point said, "Santorum is purple." I hadn't known that.


Heh.

Willard spent more than Santorum and Gingrich combined in Alabama and Mississipi. And he still couldn't beat them.
 
2012-03-13 10:51:44 PM  
Networks are calling Mississippi for FROTHY!

:-D
 
2012-03-13 10:52:05 PM  
Is Giant Elderly Baby going to speak?
 
2012-03-13 10:52:17 PM  
Bartender, a Santorum on the double!
 
2012-03-13 10:52:20 PM  

Earguy: Are tonight's states winner-take-all, or are they divided?


Both divided I think. So no big delegate wins. These are momentum wins.
 
2012-03-13 10:52:23 PM  

bugontherug: Much has been made of some recent poll that showed Santorum beating Obama in the general.


2 polls out of all these show Frothy with the lead. Fartbongo has an average 6.1% lead over Frothy McFrothsalot.
 
2012-03-13 10:53:06 PM  

Earguy: Are tonight's states winner-take-all, or are they divided?


Proportional. Delegate-wise, tonight's primaries are somewhat meaningless. the big question from tonight is whether or not it drives Gingrich from the race.
 
2012-03-13 10:53:25 PM  

vygramul: Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?

When I was touring the USS Olympia in Philly, I was on deck talking to a Japanese tourist about the trouble finding the $10m to overhaul her - and the danger she was in of being scrapped or sunk as a reef. Some Jersian overheard us and went nuts saying, "You mean they can pay Puerto Ricans to come over here and have maggots but they can't find money to save this ship?"

I was too appalled and embarrassed to give him the right answer, which is, "You're standing on THE REASON Puerto Rico is part of the US."


I don't doubt you.

I guess I can look at the silver lining and see that ignorance is not exclusively southern.
 
2012-03-13 10:54:03 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?


They were confusing it with the DR and were afraid he was going to get his Limbaugh on.
 
2012-03-13 10:54:04 PM  
Stick around for Hawaii, Subby? I'm hanging in till American Samoa finishes!

/Don't do this, it was like a week until their 2008 results were in
//Lived there for two years
 
2012-03-13 10:54:28 PM  

seventypercent: CNN calls MS for Santorum!

I just ejaculated?


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2012-03-13 10:54:31 PM  

The Bestest: Earguy: Are tonight's states winner-take-all, or are they divided?

Proportional. Delegate-wise, tonight's primaries are somewhat meaningless. the big question from tonight is whether or not it drives Gingrich from the race.


There's no legitimate reason for him to stay in. Doesn't mean he won't.
 
2012-03-13 10:54:38 PM  
Yay Frothy!!!
 
2012-03-13 10:54:41 PM  

badhatharry: moralpanic: With how loud RON PAUL supporters are, i would expect him to at least win one state. He hasn't even come close this entire primary.

I think he won the Virgin Islands. He is getting delegates.


Singular. And to say he won the Virgin Islands is to completely misunderstand the voting process there. There was no voting "Romney" vs "Paul" vs "Santorum". The ballot was "Pick up to 6 of these delegates, who are listed according to who they support." Romney only had three delegates listed, Paul had six, so it's easy for Paul to have more cumulative votes with fewer voters.
 
2012-03-13 10:54:45 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Frothy sweeps!


Santorum's people are frothing at the mouth in excitement!
 
2012-03-13 10:55:22 PM  

bobbette: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Is the Santorum daughter standing behind him the one who was holding the creepy doll in the infamous picture?

Sure looks like it.

She's grown up to be the more attractive Santorum child. Speaking of Santorum children, is it just me or does his son in the sweater vest have a slight touch of gayface?

YES.

I've been speculating on his gayface for WEEKS but I didn't post anything about it.


SOON...I will be sodomizing other men.

/That is the same son, right? The soon kid?
 
2012-03-13 10:55:26 PM  
I think this may be the turning point in this primary. It definitely is if Gingrich drops out.
 
2012-03-13 10:55:36 PM  

Krymson Tyde: dahmers love zombie: Krymson Tyde: Holy shiat, did you hear the groans when Santorum said he was going to Puerto Rico?

Well, if about half of 'em think Obama is Muslim, and two-thirds don't believe in evolution, what do you want to bet about 90% of them think Puerto Ricans are foreigners?

I'd be willing to bet most of them view P.C.ans as Mexicans.

No, I'm not joking.


Should read P.R.ans.
 
2012-03-13 10:55:46 PM  

PULL OUT NEWT!


mariopiperni.com
 
2012-03-13 10:55:55 PM  
i935.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-13 10:56:00 PM  

elchip: 2 polls out of all these show Frothy with the lead.


one of them is Ramussen, so.. yeah

the other is USA Today/Gallup, which I'm pretty sure conducts their polls in the pages of Highlights magazine.
 
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