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2012-03-13 11:25:18 AM  
I loved that game
 
2012-03-13 11:32:28 AM  
An adaptation of The Dark Tower could be great. But in my humble opinion, trying to do the whole series of books would be a waste since after the second book, the quality starts going down hill.
 
2012-03-13 11:44:50 AM  
C.S. Lewis's family finally sold the rights?
 
2012-03-13 12:15:21 PM  
it doesn't matter, they will fark up the ending, which was perfect, imho.

most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending, so i certainly don't expect people who didn't read the books to like it, nor do i expect hollywood to leave the ending as is.

the ending king wrote is a great ending for, and only for, the dark tower series. it is not an ending for a big budget hollywood blockbuster.
 
2012-03-13 12:23:14 PM  

Cythraul: An adaptation of The Dark Tower could be great. But in my humble opinion, trying to do the whole series of books would be a waste since after the second book, the quality starts going down hill.


I'd argue it rocks until the third book. But yeah, after that, it went downhill quickly. And it really started to bottom out with The Wolves of Calla. The idea was pretty cool, cowboys and robots and Lovecraftian horror. But then that's all there was, book after book after book. It went stale after awhile. I was expecting something else to pop out, but nothing did. This guy had the whole multiverse to travel in, and I was really hoping for the KaTet gang to travel to some places that weren't either Earth or a rotted alternate universe of decaying technology and vampire/zombies, but that never happened.

And what became really insufferable towards the end, when the numbers 1999 and, as I remember, 19, became a re-occurant number, was every single time that a permutation of that number popped up, Stephen King explained it into the dialog. "The safe combination was 13-4-2, the digits which added up to 19, and dharma (whatever the fark word he used for dharma) keeps rolling, ahyup." Every single farking time. Don't credit the reader with a single iota of intelligence, just beat him senseless with needless explanatory writing every farkING time.

When Stephen King wrote himself into the series, I believe in the 6th book, I thought to myself, "This is going to be bad, it's never good when an author goes meta-ficional like this." And it wasn't. So they had their encounter with 'Stephen King' and left, and I thought, "Ok, that's over, and it wasn't all that bad. I'll just forget this part of the series and pretend it never happened." And then in the 7th book when they had to go back to 'the real world' to rescue 'Stephen King' again and Jake got killed, JAKE to save 'Stephen King's' life. You took the stupidest and weakest element of the series, and tied it into the death of its most beloved character. fark! And even after that, 'Stephen King' kept appearing and appearing in various forms thru-out the rest of the series, pissing in my eye, even until the end of the entire series.

"I Roland Deschain come to you in the name of.... Stephen King of Maryland..."
NOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO! Don't DO that shiat. The series is already over and yet you KEEP pissing in my eye.

Anyway, there should really be a Plinkett book review of The Dark Tower series. I think that, much like the Star Wars prequels, he'd do a much better job of explaining exactly what went wrong than I could articulate.
 
2012-03-13 12:31:55 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: When Stephen King wrote himself into the series, I believe in the 6th book, I thought to myself, "This is going to be bad, it's never good when an author goes meta-ficional like this." And it wasn't. So they had their encounter with 'Stephen King' and left, and I thought, "Ok, that's over, and it wasn't all that bad. I'll just forget this part of the series and pretend it never happened." And then in the 7th book when they had to go back to 'the real world' to rescue 'Stephen King' again and Jake got killed, JAKE to save 'Stephen King's' life. You took the stupidest and weakest element of the series, and tied it into the death of its most beloved character. fark! And even after that, 'Stephen King' kept appearing and appearing in various forms thru-out the rest of the series, pissing in my eye, even until the end of the entire series.


Holy crap! You have got to be kidding me. It seriously got that bad? I stopped reading a couple of chapters into the fourth book and didn't bother with the series since. So this is all news to me. Haha!

Anyway, there should really be a Plinkett book review of The Dark Tower series. I think that, much like the Star Wars prequels, he'd do a much better job of explaining exactly what went wrong than I could articulate.

I'd love to see that. Plinkett's reviews are incredibly entertaining.
 
2012-03-13 01:07:40 PM  

socalnewwaver: most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending


It couldn't just be that we thought it was a trite, eminently-predictable cop-out. No, no, we are just far too ignorant and unenlightened to embrace its majesty.
 
2012-03-13 01:07:43 PM  
I have no problems with the later books, really. Sure, it got a bit masturbatory, but it seemed a good fit to the story for me. I'm just excited the project is going forward with some pretty good people at the controls. Also, I wouldn't want to make Steve mad.

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2012-03-13 01:08:31 PM  
Not back from the dead unless King is rewriting the last three books.
 
2012-03-13 01:09:07 PM  
I enjoyed Wizard and Glass but it seems like everyone else always hates it. It was cool to see an adventure of young Roland and his buds. It was like the short story King wrote earlier. Little Sisters of Eluria maybe?

That said I can't wait for this and The Stand remake.
 
2012-03-13 01:13:04 PM  

Time Traveling Bunnies: Little Sisters of Eluria maybe?


I like the "side story" idea. Another reason I am looking forward to the "new" DT novel (new window) this spring.
 
2012-03-13 01:14:26 PM  

Cythraul: An adaptation of The Dark Tower could be great. But in my humble opinion, trying to do the whole series of books would be a waste since after the second book, the quality starts going down hill.


I have a feeling that like much of the movies based off of his books, it'll probably be radically reworked. Granted, it could also be done as a literal adaptation, which is always much worse even in otherwise good books. Even though I thought the last 3 books were obviously hastily written, i still want to see a movie based on the series and to read the newest book of the series.

I do think they need to drop the TV show idea. That just sounds unworkable and too grand of an idea to pull off.
 
2012-03-13 01:17:43 PM  
The Dark Tower series is a great series as you can basically watch Steven King evolve as a writer. From beginner with talent, to pompous jack ass that never met a bit of piece of set dressing that didn't deserve 3 chapters dedicated to it.
 
2012-03-13 01:18:10 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: Cythraul: An adaptation of The Dark Tower could be great. But in my humble opinion, trying to do the whole series of books would be a waste since after the second book, the quality starts going down hill.

I'd argue it rocks until the third book. But yeah, after that, it went downhill quickly. And it really started to bottom out with The Wolves of Calla. The idea was pretty cool, cowboys and robots and Lovecraftian horror. But then that's all there was, book after book after book. It went stale after awhile. I was expecting something else to pop out, but nothing did. This guy had the whole multiverse to travel in, and I was really hoping for the KaTet gang to travel to some places that weren't either Earth or a rotted alternate universe of decaying technology and vampire/zombies, but that never happened.


pretty much this. I'm rereading the series now and though I can better appreciate the references to what would come later in the series, it does seem to go in a completely different direction than what it feels like what was originally intended after the first book. The series became too much of a "oh hey, characters from another book/movie!"
 
2012-03-13 01:33:51 PM  
This story/thread made me check out the Wiki page on The Dark Tower, and it appears that another novel, "The Wind Through the Keyhole" was just released, and is supposed to fit between books 4 and 5. Anyone pick this up yet? Or even heard anything about it? It's news to me.
 
2012-03-13 01:41:42 PM  
While I would love to see a Dark Tower movie series, why oh why cast Javier Bardem as Roland? Nothing about JB seems to fit Roland, but maybe that's just me.
 
2012-03-13 01:41:49 PM  

Erix: Anyone pick this up yet? Or even heard anything about it? It's news to me.


See my link above. The info is on SK's website. Release date is April 24th.
 
2012-03-13 01:46:00 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: While I would love to see a Dark Tower movie series, why oh why cast Javier Bardem as Roland? Nothing about JB seems to fit Roland, but maybe that's just me.


He has the age and the dark complexion I always associated with Roland. He can also give that 'stare' that Roland could. And after seeing him in a couple of films including No Country For Old Men, I'm sure his acting talents are up to the challenge.

But that's just my opinion. At the least, I think we can all agree they could have picked someone FAR worse for the role.
 
2012-03-13 01:49:04 PM  

discgolfguru: Erix: Anyone pick this up yet? Or even heard anything about it? It's news to me.

See my link above. The info is on SK's website. Release date is April 24th.


Cool, thanks. I just skimmed the wiki page and saw it was published in February 2012, missing the fact that it was a limited edition.

Of course I'm going to have to pick it up. While the overall story started to fall apart after book 3 (and particularly in book 5) I'd love to hear some more about the history of the gunslinger's world.
 
2012-03-13 01:53:36 PM  

ShawnDoc: The Dark Tower series is a great series as you can basically watch Steven King evolve as a writer. From beginner with talent, to pompous jack ass that never met a bit of piece of set dressing that didn't deserve 3 chapters dedicated to it.


THIS. While Full Dark, No Stars was great, 11/22/63 was just awful. I've read everyone of his books and 11/22/63 is the only one I actually considered giving up on. And having finished it, I wish I had quit at around page 200. Sheer crap.
 
2012-03-13 02:00:13 PM  

Cythraul: I think we can all agree they could have picked someone FAR worse for the role.


Roland: Ashton Kutcher
Eddie: Shia Lebeouf
Susannah: Sherri Shepherd
Jake: Jayden Smith
Oy: Eddie Murphy


Directed by Michael Bay
 
2012-03-13 02:07:33 PM  

Cythraul: AdmirableSnackbar: While I would love to see a Dark Tower movie series, why oh why cast Javier Bardem as Roland? Nothing about JB seems to fit Roland, but maybe that's just me.

He has the age and the dark complexion I always associated with Roland. He can also give that 'stare' that Roland could. And after seeing him in a couple of films including No Country For Old Men, I'm sure his acting talents are up to the challenge.


I've only seen him in No Country For Old Men and he seemed to physically large for Roland. Maybe he could go on a similar crash diet like Christian Bale did for The Machinist? Age and complexion are one thing, but Roland's supposed to be lean and desparate, not well-fed and bulky.
 
2012-03-13 02:19:33 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: Cythraul: An adaptation of The Dark Tower could be great. But in my humble opinion, trying to do the whole series of books would be a waste since after the second book, the quality starts going down hill.

I'd argue it rocks until the third book. But yeah, after that, it went downhill quickly.

[snipped for brevity]


Right the fark on.

My absolute favorite (after the cop-out of an ending) was the Anti-Roland character. Born from Roland's seed, absolutely evil, and perfectly setup for an epic showdown.

And then he dies after EATING A ROTTEN FARKING HORSE. Ugh.

I just wish I had my wife's good sense to just stop after the forth book.
 
2012-03-13 02:22:19 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Cythraul: AdmirableSnackbar: While I would love to see a Dark Tower movie series, why oh why cast Javier Bardem as Roland? Nothing about JB seems to fit Roland, but maybe that's just me.

He has the age and the dark complexion I always associated with Roland. He can also give that 'stare' that Roland could. And after seeing him in a couple of films including No Country For Old Men, I'm sure his acting talents are up to the challenge.

I've only seen him in No Country For Old Men and he seemed to physically large for Roland. Maybe he could go on a similar crash diet like Christian Bale did for The Machinist? Age and complexion are one thing, but Roland's supposed to be lean and desparate, not well-fed and bulky.


In the other films I've seen him in, he looked a good bit less bulky than the character Anton from No Country. But I believe he did play Rugby professionally when he was younger, so he may indeed be a bit too large of frame for Roland. But that just may be one issue that people may have to overlook. It can be quite a challenge finding the right actor for such a character.

I can't really think of any actor that would make an awesome Roland. But ultimately, I'll be able to accept him as Roland if he can play the part, despite some physical differences.
 
2012-03-13 02:26:19 PM  

Time Traveling Bunnies: I enjoyed Wizard and Glass but it seems like everyone else always hates it. It was cool to see an adventure of young Roland and his buds. It was like the short story King wrote earlier. Little Sisters of Eluria maybe?

That said I can't wait for this and The Stand remake.


I thought Wizard and Glass was the best book, personally.

As far as the ending, it was interesting. Like The Sopranos ending, it generates discussion and will be talked about as a memorable ending to an epic story.

And no Bardem for Roland, please. There are better actors that fit the stature and even have Western experience around
 
2012-03-13 02:29:33 PM  

Cythraul: AdmirableSnackbar: Cythraul: AdmirableSnackbar: While I would love to see a Dark Tower movie series, why oh why cast Javier Bardem as Roland? Nothing about JB seems to fit Roland, but maybe that's just me.

He has the age and the dark complexion I always associated with Roland. He can also give that 'stare' that Roland could. And after seeing him in a couple of films including No Country For Old Men, I'm sure his acting talents are up to the challenge.

I've only seen him in No Country For Old Men and he seemed to physically large for Roland. Maybe he could go on a similar crash diet like Christian Bale did for The Machinist? Age and complexion are one thing, but Roland's supposed to be lean and desparate, not well-fed and bulky.

In the other films I've seen him in, he looked a good bit less bulky than the character Anton from No Country. But I believe he did play Rugby professionally when he was younger, so he may indeed be a bit too large of frame for Roland. But that just may be one issue that people may have to overlook. It can be quite a challenge finding the right actor for such a character.

I can't really think of any actor that would make an awesome Roland. But ultimately, I'll be able to accept him as Roland if he can play the part, despite some physical differences.


I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.
 
2012-03-13 02:30:40 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.


The question is is he tall enough? Ben Foster is in the same boat, imho(but maybe as Young Roland).
 
2012-03-13 02:33:55 PM  

bhcompy: AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.

The question is is he tall enough? Ben Foster is in the same boat, imho(but maybe as Young Roland).


It's easier to make an actor appear taller than it is to make a man with a large build look lean.
 
2012-03-13 02:35:10 PM  
it is dissapointing that every comment came from series haters. I agree it wasn't perfect, and the ending didn't live up to my hopes. I also agree that Song of Susannah was a waste of paper. That said, I thought Wizards and Glass was fantastic. I compare Wolves of the Calla to the Metallica "Black" album... Great when considered with the earlier material, but in hindsight it is obviously where the train fell off the rails.

The last book had its great moments, and its failures. The ending was a failure, until the third time I read it. Now, I can take it for what it is and not what I expected it to be. That is the key to reading this series. You aren't writing it, King did. It is obvious that he cranked out the last three books to get the deamon off of his back, but if he didn't, we would all be complaining about how he never finished the story. (Just like we all will in a few years when George RR Martin dies of coronary failure without finishing SoIaF).

I love all of the characters from other stories. I wish he would have left himself out, or at least made it a minor role (like his movie cameos), but the fact that the whole King universe revolves around the Tower is one of the greatest plot points in the story.

I think the movie/series idea could be great if it is done well, but if they kill the budget they might as well not make it. So, for me, I am looking forward to the new book, and the movies. I am sure I will even read the whole series at least one more time.

Oh, and 11/22/63 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Haters gonna hate.
 
2012-03-13 02:39:07 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: bhcompy: AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.

The question is is he tall enough? Ben Foster is in the same boat, imho(but maybe as Young Roland).

It's easier to make an actor appear taller than it is to make a man with a large build look lean.


This is true in some respects, but it takes some clever casting to do it in something with as much character interaction as this. Jane's approx 5'10. Kind of big by Hollywood standards(big by Tom Cruise standards, for sure), but maybe not big enough for Roland. Of course, they could just give him platform cowboy boots.
 
2012-03-13 02:44:49 PM  
The best book was the first one. It could have ended there, honestly. After that it got all Stephen Kinged.

The Dark Tower suffers the problem that all of King's writing does: the farther along he is, the bigger the departure from sense. Most of his books end, however, before passing all the way out of the sweet spot, where things are just crazy enough that they're interesting and meaningful. The Dark Tower passed that marker somewhere in book 3, probably about the point he realized that he had a bucket full of awesome concepts with no way to tie them together and keep them awesome, and the only solution was to ramble incoherently for 3 more books and totally cop out of completing his awesome universe. I think he diverged from his original concept around book 4 and just never got back on track.
 
2012-03-13 02:46:22 PM  

socalnewwaver: it doesn't matter, they will fark up the ending, which was perfect, imho.

most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending, so i certainly don't expect people who didn't read the books to like it, nor do i expect hollywood to leave the ending as is.

the ending king wrote is a great ending for, and only for, the dark tower series. it is not an ending for a big budget hollywood blockbuster.


I heart you, but in a completely platonic way. There's no other way the story could end.
 
2012-03-13 02:46:42 PM  

jnic: it is dissapointing that every comment came from series haters. I agree it wasn't perfect, and the ending didn't live up to my hopes. I also agree that Song of Susannah was a waste of paper. That said, I thought Wizards and Glass was fantastic. I compare Wolves of the Calla to the Metallica "Black" album... Great when considered with the earlier material, but in hindsight it is obviously where the train fell off the rails.


It's not worth it to spar with them. I still think they over-glamorize the first three books because that's all we had for so many years, but it's not worth arguing over. Then again, I like Load and ReLoad and appreciate them for what they are worth instead of comparing them to Master of Puppets and Justice. If you point the same discerning eye towards the first three books as the you'll find just as much to biatch about as people love to point out in the last 3.

The only thing I really didn't like about the series is the character of Suzannah. She's completely non-dynamic and the only character who does not grow or change one bit throughout the series. Even Oy has more depth to him.
 
2012-03-13 02:50:23 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.


Are we dreamcasting again? Here's my picks:

Roland: agree with Thomas Jane
Susannah: Zoe Saldana
Eddie: Jeffrey Donovan (Burn Notice)
Jake: maybe the kid from Walking Dead?
Walter: Michael Emerson/Kevin Spacey

Oy: Wishbone (from Wishbone)
 
2012-03-13 02:53:17 PM  

Time Traveling Bunnies: AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.

Are we dreamcasting again? Here's my picks:

Roland: agree with Thomas Jane
Susannah: Zoe Saldana
Eddie: Jeffrey Donovan (Burn Notice)
Jake: maybe the kid from Walking Dead?
Walter: Michael Emerson/Kevin Spacey

Oy: Wishbone (from Wishbone)


Are you kidding me? WTF is this shiat? Moose (Eddie from Frasier) has to be Oy.
 
2012-03-13 02:54:10 PM  
I'd like to see Billy Drago cast as Randall Flagg
 
2012-03-13 03:00:34 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Time Traveling Bunnies: AdmirableSnackbar: I thought (and still think) that Thomas Jane would be great.

Are we dreamcasting again? Here's my picks:

Roland: agree with Thomas Jane
Susannah: Zoe Saldana
Eddie: Jeffrey Donovan (Burn Notice)
Jake: maybe the kid from Walking Dead?
Walter: Michael Emerson/Kevin Spacey

Oy: Wishbone (from Wishbone)

Are you kidding me? WTF is this shiat? Moose (Eddie from Frasier) has to be Oy.


It was a close race but Moose finished second, narrowly beating out Shaggydog (Game of Thrones) and an opossum living in my garbage chute.
 
2012-03-13 03:02:56 PM  
Have Jamie Sheridan reprise his role of Randall Flagg
 
2012-03-13 03:08:07 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Are you kidding me? WTF is this shiat? Moose (Eddie from Frasier) has to be Oy.


He died 6 years ago.

Go then, there are other snausages than these.
 
2012-03-13 03:10:20 PM  

cretinbob: I loved that game


Hell, yes!
 
2012-03-13 03:14:03 PM  

discgolfguru: AdmirableSnackbar: Are you kidding me? WTF is this shiat? Moose (Eddie from Frasier) has to be Oy.

He died 6 years ago.

Go then, there are other snausages than these.


Yeah, and Soccer (Wishbone) died in 2001. No, it did not depress me to learn both of those in the span of a few minutes, thanks.
 
2012-03-13 03:14:30 PM  

bhcompy: Time Traveling Bunnies: I enjoyed Wizard and Glass but it seems like everyone else always hates it. It was cool to see an adventure of young Roland and his buds. It was like the short story King wrote earlier. Little Sisters of Eluria maybe?

That said I can't wait for this and The Stand remake.

I thought Wizard and Glass was the best book, personally.



I don't know if I can say Wizard and Glass was my favorite of the series, but I also really liked it. In fact, I have always thought that it would make a great stand-alone movie if Hollywood didn't think it could do the whole series.

Cut off the beginning with Blaine and the end with Flagg, add a few bits of the flashback scenes from The Gunslinger and just tell the story of the young gunslingers and what happened in Mejis. I think it could work really well if done carefully.
 
2012-03-13 03:17:42 PM  

socalnewwaver: it doesn't matter, they will fark up the ending, which was perfect, imho.

most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending, so i certainly don't expect people who didn't read the books to like it, nor do i expect hollywood to leave the ending as is.

the ending king wrote is a great ending for, and only for, the dark tower series. it is not an ending for a big budget hollywood blockbuster.


It depends on which part of the ending you mean. If you mean the dandelo stuff then no, that was pretty much shiat. If you mean the very end, inside the tower, then yes, I agree completely.

kronicfeld: socalnewwaver: most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending

It couldn't just be that we thought it was a trite, eminently-predictable cop-out. No, no, we are just far too ignorant and unenlightened to embrace its majesty.


Ka like a wheel, sai
 
2012-03-13 03:24:50 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I still think they over-glamorize the first three books because that's all we had for so many years, but it's not worth arguing over. Then again, I like Load and ReLoad and appreciate them for what they are worth instead of comparing them to Master of Puppets and Justice. If you point the same discerning eye towards the first three books as the you'll find just as much to biatch about as people love to point out in the last 3.


eh, that's not really comparable since Re/Load are separate entities from the rest of Metallica's catalogue while The Dark Tower is a series of 7-books with an on-going/connected story. In rereading the series, some of the faults do show up early than I remember them being... but this is still all in light of where the series would eventually head. I think the criticism for the last 3 books is pretty harsh, but not really undeserved. I think the ending would've held up a lot better had the overall quality not dipped as well.
 
2012-03-13 03:51:49 PM  
If anything, I'd like to see what HBO can do with the characters. Spent a penny on this LE at Comic Con. 278/500. Also the comics have been really good as well, expanding the world and going back to the fall of Gilead and the battle or Jericho hill

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2012-03-13 04:01:49 PM  

kronicfeld: socalnewwaver: most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending

It couldn't just be that we thought it was a trite, eminently-predictable cop-out. No, no, we are just far too ignorant and unenlightened to embrace its majesty.


This. Enjoyed the novels.

Hated the ending so much. But it's how king 'ends' all his novels I've read.
 
2012-03-13 04:14:04 PM  

kroonermanblack: kronicfeld: socalnewwaver: most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending

It couldn't just be that we thought it was a trite, eminently-predictable cop-out. No, no, we are just far too ignorant and unenlightened to embrace its majesty.

This. Enjoyed the novels.

Hated the ending so much. But it's how king 'ends' all his novels I've read.


I liked the final ending to the book. The battle and spidery things leading up to it? Not so much.

I don't advocate the burning of many books, but Song of Susannah was an abomination. I would rather read a leaflet on Famous Jewish Sports Legends.
 
2012-03-13 04:17:42 PM  

kroonermanblack: kronicfeld: socalnewwaver: most of the people who actually read the books don't like (or get) the ending

It couldn't just be that we thought it was a trite, eminently-predictable cop-out. No, no, we are just far too ignorant and unenlightened to embrace its majesty.

This. Enjoyed the novels.

Hated the ending so much. But it's how king 'ends' all his novels I've read.



SPOILERS


I enjoyed the actual end of the novels, meaning everything from when Roland goes into the tower on. Leading up to that was a pretty big disappointment though. I mean Mordred's demise was pretty anti-clamactic, but the final battle with the Crimson King was a horrible cheap cop-out. Christ, the big baddie we've been reading about for 2 decades goes out like that? Are you farking kidding me? I could have tolerated all the mirroring of King Arthur, I could have even dealt with the disappointing demise of all the other characters, good guys and bad. But to have your main bad guy of the entire series (who was even alluded to in other works) go out in that bad of a manner was just pure laziness.

But yeah, I'd pay to see a good film adaptation.
 
2012-03-13 04:28:34 PM  

helper_monkey: bhcompy: Time Traveling Bunnies: I enjoyed Wizard and Glass but it seems like everyone else always hates it. It was cool to see an adventure of young Roland and his buds. It was like the short story King wrote earlier. Little Sisters of Eluria maybe?

That said I can't wait for this and The Stand remake.

I thought Wizard and Glass was the best book, personally.



I don't know if I can say Wizard and Glass was my favorite of the series, but I also really liked it. In fact, I have always thought that it would make a great stand-alone movie if Hollywood didn't think it could do the whole series.

Cut off the beginning with Blaine and the end with Flagg, add a few bits of the flashback scenes from The Gunslinger and just tell the story of the young gunslingers and what happened in Mejis. I think it could work really well if done carefully.


Definitely a great story for a one off movie. Honestly, given the sheer number of King adapted movies, I'm surprised it hasn't been done. Could maybe even be split into 2 parts
 
2012-03-13 04:33:52 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: AdmirableSnackbar: I still think they over-glamorize the first three books because that's all we had for so many years, but it's not worth arguing over. Then again, I like Load and ReLoad and appreciate them for what they are worth instead of comparing them to Master of Puppets and Justice. If you point the same discerning eye towards the first three books as the you'll find just as much to biatch about as people love to point out in the last 3.

eh, that's not really comparable since Re/Load are separate entities from the rest of Metallica's catalogue while The Dark Tower is a series of 7-books with an on-going/connected story. In rereading the series, some of the faults do show up early than I remember them being... but this is still all in light of where the series would eventually head. I think the criticism for the last 3 books is pretty harsh, but not really undeserved. I think the ending would've held up a lot better had the overall quality not dipped as well.


I'm not the one who initiated the Metallica/SK comparison, I was just saying that I find myself consistent with both artists as liked the entire Dark Tower series and I like all of Metallica's albums (St. Anger being the obvious exception).

My overall point is that the first three books are seen by some fans as unimpeachable - and I get that, everything is awesome when you're 12, even moreso when it stays with you and retains its value as you age like the first three books did for so many. Nothing could live up to those three books for some people, and by and large those are the people who are the most vocal with their feelings on the last three books. Did the quality dip? In some ways yes but not a whole hell of a lot. Certainly not enough to draw the venom that some have for them.
 
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