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2012-03-13 10:54:00 AM
I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.

If it doesn't work out, you drop him and move on.
 
2012-03-13 11:01:43 AM

Treygreen13: I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.

If it doesn't work out, you drop him and move on.


THIS.

Though an industrial sized bucket of chemo might not be bad to have on hand. You know.
 
2012-03-13 11:02:21 AM

Treygreen13: I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.

If it doesn't work out, you drop him and move on.


This. Also, I honestly think Randy is a relatively 'ok' guy who happens to have the mentality of a five year old. He needs an incentive heavy contract and a superior that won't put up with ANY of his shiat. The only thing is as it gets towards the end of the year, I expect it'll actually sink in that his contract is almost up. At this point I expect he'll regress to the mentality of a two year old. Harbaugh (sp?) needs to kicks his ass if/when this happens.
 
2012-03-13 11:02:41 AM
How are they paying for the cancer treatment?

Straight cash homey.
 
2012-03-13 11:05:07 AM
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...he's basically the best deep threat the NFL has known. Assuming he gets his fair share of passes thrown his way he might be okay..but with their run game, Davis and Crabtree looking for passes...who knows.
 
2012-03-13 11:12:41 AM

ihatedumbpeople: It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...he's basically the best deep threat the NFL has known.


Ginn got past the defense last year about 8 times a game, and Smith could never put the ball out far enough for him. Sure, Ginn would have just dropped it anyway, but Moss' skillset doesn't really jive with Smith's subpar arm.

I REALLY hope this doesn't stop us from going after Colston and/or Vincent Jackson, each of whom would fit into our system perfectly.
 
2012-03-13 11:15:40 AM

ihatedumbpeople: It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...he's basically the best deep threat the NFL has known


I agree, but I think he may have lost the speed to be that nowadays. But the guy is 6'5", so he'll be a nice redzone target. Just throw up a jump ball and he'll grab it for a TD.
 
2012-03-13 11:26:40 AM
I don't see any upside to this.
 
2012-03-13 11:27:09 AM
As a 49ers fan, I like this. It means that instead of the situation last year when Alex Smith kept overthrowing wide receivers who couldn't seem to get open downfield, next year he'll be underthrowing a wide receiver who can get open downfield!
 
2012-03-13 11:42:22 AM
Hey, the 49ers are use to having primadona, remember they are the team that brought up Terrell Owens. As a 49ers fan, however I would hope that Moss feels motivated to try and beat Rice's record. That would at least be good for the team. Hope he gets 15 TDs this season, 10 next season, let him play part of a third or fourth season and cut him at 43 TDs, one short of the record just for spite.

Of course it's unlikely that "straight cash homey" would stay motivated that long.
 
2012-03-13 11:42:42 AM
We shall see.
 
2012-03-13 11:46:49 AM

Cyberluddite: As a 49ers fan, I like this. It means that instead of the situation last year when Alex Smith kept overthrowing wide receivers who couldn't seem to get open downfield, next year he'll be underthrowing a wide receiver who can get open downfield!


And thus, the natural order of things remains unchanged
 
2012-03-13 11:47:39 AM

degenerate-afro: Hey, the 49ers are use to having primadona, remember they are the team that brought up Terrell Owens. As a 49ers fan, however I would hope that Moss feels motivated to try and beat Rice's record. That would at least be good for the team. Hope he gets 15 TDs this season, 10 next season, let him play part of a third or fourth season and cut him at 43 TDs, one short of the record just for spite.

Of course it's unlikely that "straight cash homey" would stay motivated that long.


No cutting out of spite, have in his contract he must retire and go into the HoF as a Niner if he breaks Rice's TD record as a Niner, that way the Niners had the two best WRs ever in the history of the NFL as part of their NFL HoF legacy.
 
2012-03-13 11:57:33 AM

danknerd: degenerate-afro: Hey, the 49ers are use to having primadona, remember they are the team that brought up Terrell Owens. As a 49ers fan, however I would hope that Moss feels motivated to try and beat Rice's record. That would at least be good for the team. Hope he gets 15 TDs this season, 10 next season, let him play part of a third or fourth season and cut him at 43 TDs, one short of the record just for spite.

Of course it's unlikely that "straight cash homey" would stay motivated that long.

No cutting out of spite, have in his contract he must retire and go into the HoF as a Niner if he breaks Rice's TD record as a Niner, that way the Niners had the two best WRs ever in the history of the NFL as part of their NFL HoF legacy.


You have TO, Moss and Rice already, so that would be the three best WRs, but that doesn't preclude Moss and TO being colossal douches.
 
2012-03-13 12:05:01 PM
Ha! I just picked him up in my legacy league in fake football. Now to look for a sucker and get them to trade me a good player for him...........
 
2012-03-13 12:05:52 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: I REALLY hope this doesn't stop us from going after Colston and/or Vincent Jackson, each of whom would fit into our system perfectly.


Jackson won't go over the middle, is a budding cancer like Moss and TO(which SF is intimately familiar with), and Rivers airs it out deep to him.. so what makes you think it will work with Jackson when it won't with Moss?
 
2012-03-13 12:11:56 PM

bhcompy: Jackson won't go over the middle, is a budding cancer like Moss and TO(which SF is intimately familiar with), and Rivers airs it out deep to him.. so what makes you think it will work with Jackson when it won't with Moss?


Jackson does go over the middle, and is a big redzone target (not that Moss is small, of course). Jackson also runs much better routes than Moss, whose skillset is more limited to "run really fast and jump really high."

Moss in his prime was maybe the 2nd best WR to ever play the game, but in the year 2012, I do think that Vincent Jackson is a better fit with the 49ers offense. I think that Marques Colston is a better fit than both of them, however.
 
2012-03-13 12:12:48 PM
I'm ok with this. I don't expect that Moss has anything left, but if he does at all then he will be a great decoy and worth every penny of what is most likely a vet minimum contract with incentives.

Harbaugh worked him out, so he must have liked what he saw. Even if Moss is just a camp body its not a big risk. The 49ers have strong veteran leadership, especially on the defensive side, but also with Joe Staley, Vernon Davis, and Frank Gore. Vernon Davis even almost got into a fight with Crabtree to show him that he was farking around and it wasn't acceptable.

There is plenty of upside and no real downside. As the 49ers showed with Braylon Edwards, they can just cut a player and move on if he's becoming a problem. It's about the team, the team, the team, and if Moss buys into it and is ok with not putting up great stats (a big IF, to say the least) then he could help a lot as long as the 49ers are winning.

I'm really hoping he is Manning bait. Of all the news out there, the 49ers are considered a player, and for some reason the 49ers beat writers haven't said anything at all about it for awhile, either way (of course the last thing they all said was there is no way its happening, but that was over a week ago).
 
2012-03-13 12:18:50 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Jackson does go over the middle


Maybe you haven't watched Jackson since he turned prima donna. The worst was this past year where he was being thrown to over the middle and Jackson jumped, saw the defenders and a ball he would have to extend for, and instead kept his arms by his side while the ball sailed by where his hands would have been so he can avoid being hit hard. There is a reason the Chargers aren't even bothering with him. Good luck, though
 
2012-03-13 12:24:19 PM
Basically Harbaugh and company said:

"Well, we can't do any worse than 1 completion to a wide receiver in the championship game, so ... why not."
 
2012-03-13 12:30:48 PM

danknerd: No cutting out of spite, have in his contract he must retire and go into the HoF as a Niner


Is it really that much of an issue for the Pro Football HOF? I know that it's an issue in baseball, where a team's logo may be used on a cap on their plaque. But in Canton, their bust has a normal plaque that lists all the teams they played for anyway.
 
2012-03-13 12:35:47 PM
Don't be silly, Subby. They already had clubhouse cancer in the form of benign Vernon Davis.
 
2012-03-13 12:37:47 PM

Epiphany: I'm ok with this. I don't expect that Moss has anything left, but if he does at all then he will be a great decoy and worth every penny of what is most likely a vet minimum contract with incentives.

Harbaugh worked him out, so he must have liked what he saw. Even if Moss is just a camp body its not a big risk. The 49ers have strong veteran leadership, especially on the defensive side, but also with Joe Staley, Vernon Davis, and Frank Gore. Vernon Davis even almost got into a fight with Crabtree to show him that he was farking around and it wasn't acceptable.

There is plenty of upside and no real downside. As the 49ers showed with Braylon Edwards, they can just cut a player and move on if he's becoming a problem. It's about the team, the team, the team, and if Moss buys into it and is ok with not putting up great stats (a big IF, to say the least) then he could help a lot as long as the 49ers are winning.

I'm really hoping he is Manning bait. Of all the news out there, the 49ers are considered a player, and for some reason the 49ers beat writers haven't said anything at all about it for awhile, either way (of course the last thing they all said was there is no way its happening, but that was over a week ago).


Harbough came out and said "Alex is our guy." I immediately facepalmed, especially given that Alex hasn't taken the 3 year deal offered by the Niners. Seriously Alex? Who else is gonna play you at starter? Anyway, I think this is why there's no Manning talk... I personally hope that's a smokescreen.
 
2012-03-13 12:45:34 PM
He was great to have here in MN before his head inflated bigger than his wing span. That no look backwards pass he shoveled while being taken down was epic.
 
2012-03-13 01:47:04 PM

LeroyBourne: He was great to have here in MN before his head inflated bigger than his wing span. That no look backwards pass he shoveled while being taken down was epic.


Against Denver? That was a great play. That has got to be one of the top 10 of his plays.
 
2012-03-13 02:17:10 PM
I think that Alex could throw fine to him. Much of the conservative nature of our passing game is the play calling which is fed by the personnel that we have. We have not had a good reliable #1 receiver in a long while. Crabtree can do some stuff with his hands but he is a terrible deep route runner. Ginn is just awful unless he is returning punts. Morgan was doing decent before he got injured, not sure how that is going to play out. Davis was the only one stepping up, but he can only do so much. You need that safety back there to have to make a choice, and for the longest time defenses against the Niners never had to. In this regard I like the idea that Moss is a good fit, but I have serious doubts about his season longevity and his attitude (obviously). Harbaugh is the type of guy that won't take shiat, so that is good. But I can see Moss getting easily frustrated when the Niners lean on their D game after game especially when playing the likes of Seattle and the Rams. He won't get much and that might start a downward spiral of him jogging around pretending to play. Sure he feels great now, he hasn't played in over a year.
 
2012-03-13 02:24:50 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: ihatedumbpeople: It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...he's basically the best deep threat the NFL has known.

Ginn got past the defense last year about 8 times a game, and Smith could never put the ball out far enough for him. Sure, Ginn would have just dropped it anyway, but Moss' skillset doesn't really jive with Smith's subpar arm.

I REALLY hope this doesn't stop us from going after Colston and/or Vincent Jackson, each of whom would fit into our system perfectly.


I"m a bit late back to the thread, but Colston just resigned with the Saints...
 
2012-03-13 03:02:16 PM

Treygreen13: I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.


Because really, what can you possibly learn from the last five teams?
 
2012-03-13 03:38:56 PM

lilbjorn: Treygreen13: I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.

Because really, what can you possibly learn from the last five teams?


If he has an incentive-laden contract, he can either perform and get paid or get cut and replaced. It's a low-risk move.
 
2012-03-13 04:31:15 PM

lilbjorn: Treygreen13: I'm not opposed to teams taking a shot on a veteran. Especially one whose problem seems to be motivation and not ability.

Because really, what can you possibly learn from the last five teams?


Well I can certainly learn from the Patriots.
 
2012-03-13 10:39:04 PM
Good luck SF he may still be able to stretch out the field, but hedoesn't get up over the defender and fight for the ball. Replay his last two seasons in New England. Played like a pussy with more attitude than talent.
/guaranteed last season in the NFL
//Ocho cinco was a bust here last season here also
///F-ing WR divas
 
2012-03-13 10:52:49 PM
Perfect spot for him.
WRs are nothing but flashy, overpaid bling on 28 of 32 teams. But there are a few teams that need that missing piece. SF fits that category.
 
2012-03-13 11:11:00 PM
All the momentum of the 49ers rolling stone last season ends as they have gathered Moss.
 
2012-03-14 05:42:34 AM

Ryker's Peninsula: All the momentum of the 49ers rolling stone last season ends as they have gathered Moss.


whats the opposite of a golf clap?
 
2012-03-14 08:37:26 AM

I sound fat: Ryker's Peninsula: All the momentum of the 49ers rolling stone last season ends as they have gathered Moss.

whats the opposite of a golf clap?


The answer surprisingly is - golf clap.
 
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