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2012-03-12 05:37:58 PM
Not a conservative (for the most part), but I really do hope Mike succeeds.
 
2012-03-12 05:41:17 PM

downstairs: Not a conservative (for the most part), but I really do hope Mike succeeds.


Me too. I really think we need a conservative conversation occurring, even if I don't agree with parts of it. If all the liberal side has to do is say "we're not those guys!" they don't have to work very hard to win political support. I'd much rather have two parties with opposing ideas having a debate than one party coasting to glory while the other violently self-destructs.
 
2012-03-12 05:58:13 PM

Humean_Nature: downstairs: Not a conservative (for the most part), but I really do hope Mike succeeds.

Me too. I really think we need a conservative conversation occurring, even if I don't agree with parts of it. If all the liberal side has to do is say "we're not those guys!" they don't have to work very hard to win political support. I'd much rather have two parties with opposing ideas having a debate than one party coasting to glory while the other violently self-destructs.


That's going to be very difficult now that Republicans have let the religious yahoos into the house.

They come in easy but I'm guessing you're going to have a helluva time getting them to leave.
 
2012-03-12 06:03:29 PM
Oddly, the median age and the median IQ are equal
 
2012-03-12 06:15:40 PM
I don't agree with most of Huckabee's policies and I am never to be confused with someone interested in religion or the right-wing....but Huckabee just strikes me as a decent guy. I have no idea if that is true or not and I doubt I'd ever vote for him, but for whatever reason, he doesn't bother me like some of the other GOP right-wing christian conservative types.

Perhaps it is those freakishly white teeth in the picture.
 
2012-03-12 06:17:05 PM
cl.ly

this seems apropos.
 
2012-03-12 06:18:29 PM
Deceased

No, only brain-dead.
 
2012-03-12 06:18:54 PM
My god, i can't imagine what your worldview must be like if you listen to Rush 3 hrs a day every day.
 
2012-03-12 06:20:12 PM
Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.
 
2012-03-12 06:20:22 PM

Ed Finnerty: That's going to be very difficult now that Republicans have let the religious yahoos into the house.


It's not even that they're in the house. They've been there for decades. The problem is that the religious yahoos are now the public face of the party (even if the official leadership of the national party realizes that this is a huge problem for them), and they're saying things that will be very difficult to just "pass off" when the general election campaign starts up.

Unless they can find a way to separate the religious right from their party, the GOP is really big trouble over the near/medium term, especially if they keep stabbing each other in the gut every time two or more of them are in the same room together. The stuff that Michael Steele keeps trying to sell the press, that this is the same thing as when Obama and Hillary fought it out, doesn't hold water. The unfavorables of all the GOP nom candidates continue to drop, for one, which only slightly happened with the Dems in 2007-2008 (depending on which poll you saw, it didn't happen at all). That fight energized the Democratic base, this GOP fight is driving independents away in droves and their "base" (for the time being, at least) is very much unimpressed with the offerings. The choice being left in that last bit, of course, is either find someone that the base is totally okay with, but who is totally unelectable in a general election, or change the base to some group of folks who is much closer to the American political center (the real center, not the FNC idea of the center).
 
2012-03-12 06:21:12 PM

radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.


Um, it's David Frum. He's no liberal.
 
2012-03-12 06:26:25 PM

moralpanic: radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.

Um, it's David Frum. He's no liberal.


MoralPanic, yeah. Didn't see that. Stand corrected.
 
2012-03-12 06:26:36 PM

moralpanic: radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.

Um, it's David Frum. He's no liberal.


RINO. "They are all RINO's of course. Except for me and Reagan."
 
2012-03-12 06:27:13 PM

radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.


Air America was never going to steal any of Rush's right wing yahoos. Their goal was to tap into the NPR/non radio listening leftist audience. Huckabee has a chance to steal those right wing yahoos.
 
2012-03-12 06:29:34 PM

Humean_Nature: downstairs: Not a conservative (for the most part), but I really do hope Mike succeeds.

Me too. I really think we need a conservative conversation occurring, even if I don't agree with parts of it. If all the liberal side has to do is say "we're not those guys!" they don't have to work very hard to win political support. I'd much rather have two parties with opposing ideas having a debate than one party coasting to glory while the other violently self-destructs.


I'd rather see some actual liberals in Congress first.
 
2012-03-12 06:31:06 PM

radioshack: This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.


Former speechwriter for George W Bush.

So close on your assessment.
 
2012-03-12 06:33:03 PM
That was quite an interesting article. Huckabee does have good name recognition. Should be interesting to see how things play out.
 
2012-03-12 06:33:15 PM

radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.


there are a few good reasons why liberal media fails.

1. liberals simply don't need the constant reaffirmation that what they believe is true and correct. Reality works for us.

2. liberals don't listen to am radio. They'd rather enjoy life listening to music than stew over some perceived slight

3. liberal ideology is not all about the corporate bottom line. it's about the betterment of society as a whole not an elite few.

4. corporate media owners shun them because of points 1,2 and 3
 
2012-03-12 06:36:31 PM
We shall see. While Huckabee is nice and all, I'm not sure he is able to be entertaining. Say what you want about Limbaugh, but he has enormous artistic craft when it comes to radio. Huckabee is starting from scratch.

If I were a local talker, even if I was going away from Limbaugh, which I'll believe when I see it, I'd probably want someone that is livelier. I might go local.
 
2012-03-12 06:37:37 PM
Mike Huckabee will fail, people are drawn to talk radio by bile and spittle, who wants to listen to somebody being nice?

"We must disembowel the lib-tards!" ... that is where the action is on talk radio.
 
2012-03-12 06:37:42 PM

downstairs: Not a conservative (for the most part), but I really do hope Mike succeeds.


If Huckabee was the Republican nominee, Obama would have a real fight on his hands.
 
2012-03-12 06:37:45 PM

Hobodeluxe: radioshack: Huckabee is only the latest in the long list of "Limbaugh Killers". Won't happen. I give Huckabee's show less than 6 months.

This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.

there are a few good reasons why liberal media fails.

1. liberals simply don't need the constant reaffirmation that what they believe is true and correct. Reality works for us.

2. liberals don't listen to am radio. They'd rather enjoy life listening to music than stew over some perceived slight

3. liberal ideology is not all about the corporate bottom line. it's about the betterment of society as a whole not an elite few.

4. corporate media owners shun them because of points 1,2 and 3


You forgot:

5. Liberals are just too damn sexy to do radio shows.
 
2012-03-12 06:37:53 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Ed Finnerty: That's going to be very difficult now that Republicans have let the religious yahoos into the house.

It's not even that they're in the house. They've been there for decades. The problem is that the religious yahoos are now the public face of the party (even if the official leadership of the national party realizes that this is a huge problem for them), and they're saying things that will be very difficult to just "pass off" when the general election campaign starts up.

Unless they can find a way to separate the religious right from their party, the GOP is really big trouble over the near/medium term, especially if they keep stabbing each other in the gut every time two or more of them are in the same room together. The stuff that Michael Steele keeps trying to sell the press, that this is the same thing as when Obama and Hillary fought it out, doesn't hold water. The unfavorables of all the GOP nom candidates continue to drop, for one, which only slightly happened with the Dems in 2007-2008 (depending on which poll you saw, it didn't happen at all). That fight energized the Democratic base, this GOP fight is driving independents away in droves and their "base" (for the time being, at least) is very much unimpressed with the offerings. The choice being left in that last bit, of course, is either find someone that the base is totally okay with, but who is totally unelectable in a general election, or change the base to some group of folks who is much closer to the American political center (the real center, not the FNC idea of the center).


And the bizarre thing is its the GOP that founded the notion of sticking together and keeping in-fighting behind closed doors. At least in my generation (1970s-today).

It was always the Democrats that had blood-bath primaries.

GOP primaries were notoriously boring because they always anointed the guy who diserved it most. You could probably pick their candidate 4 years out and be right.

The last time I remember any real contentiousness was GHW Bush's "voodoo economics" speech. They basically said "STFU, you get to be VP and you'll be president after Ronnie leaves office."
 
2012-03-12 06:38:15 PM

radioshack: This article was written by someone who, I'm sure, thought Air America was going to be a huge success, and not the morally and fiscally bankrupt disgrace it became by stealing from little children and not paying its own employees.


this post was written by someone who is too incompetent to read a by-line.

yes, it's true that frum and limbaugh have not gotten along well; frum being a liberal republican in antithesis to limbaugh's good ole boy conservatism, but he raises several valid points in the article. in particular, he argues that advertisers are dropping limbaugh not out of some perceived moral slight, but rather for economic purposes. only time will tell. if limbaugh can stick it out until november, he will probably get a bit of a bump as the fears about "obama confiscating our guns" come back, but who knows?

/my little sister is a dittohead...she's probably skewing that average age down several years...
 
2012-03-12 06:38:52 PM
Nope, not deceased, subby, the correct term is "assumed room temperature".
 
2012-03-12 06:38:59 PM
Strange questions, why is this in the politics tab and not the entertainment? Limbaugh is a entertainer, not a politician, and people would do better to remember that when weighing the weight of his words. He's a talk show host on a dying form of media and should be held in the same respects as Dr. Dreadful and Howard Stern.

/I miss the ALL tab
 
2012-03-12 06:41:34 PM

UNC_Samurai: I'd rather see some actual liberals in Congress first.


Kucinich? Most of the Congressional Black Caucus? Bernie Sanders?
 
2012-03-12 06:41:50 PM

Geotpf: If Huckabee was the Republican nominee, Obama would have a real fight on his hands.


not really. with the economy being a major issue, huckabee would be far over his head. yes, he'd attract the theocrat vote, but the liberal republicans would not be much enthused, and would probably sit out.
 
2012-03-12 06:41:54 PM
Huckabee just needs to schedule that disgusting rat Emmanuel Goldstein to be his guest every day.
 
2012-03-12 06:42:29 PM
By deceased I assume you mean "brain dead."
 
2012-03-12 06:42:34 PM
tjsands1118 2012-03-12 06:38:59 PM

Strange questions, why is this in the politics tab and not the entertainment? Limbaugh is a entertainer...

Legit question.

But I'd like to ask why politicians have recently been known to apologize to a mere entertainer?
 
2012-03-12 06:42:38 PM
I actually kind of like Huckabee, but there's no way he can personally take down Rush. Limbaugh's listeners are full of hate, and unless Huckabee can hate the liberals harder, the dittoheads won't give him the time of day.
 
2012-03-12 06:42:43 PM
Well, I like Huckabee, not that I want him to be the president, but I like the guy. So I hope he does dethrone Limbaugh. (doubt it)
 
2012-03-12 06:46:11 PM
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rushlimbaugh.com

old males at home

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/fark.com
 
2012-03-12 06:46:43 PM
Can't stand Huckabee. I know that for all the reasons I dislike him there are many more reasons to dislike Limbaugh.

Huckabee suggested every American should be forced to listen to liar, christian nationalist and national crackpot David Barton. He claimed that Obama has a different view than most Americans because he grew up in Kenya during the Mau Mau revolution. When people demanded he prove his claim that that Obama grew up in Kenya, he backtracked and claimed that he meant to say Indonesia. Did anyone ever call him out on the fact that the Mau Mau revolution did not take place in Indonesia. These are just a few of the things I thought of off the top of my head. Huckabee is an ass.
 
2012-03-12 06:49:58 PM
The Mau Mau Revolution thing is pretty funny ...
 
2012-03-12 06:52:30 PM

Geotpf: UNC_Samurai: I'd rather see some actual liberals in Congress first.

Kucinich? Most of the Congressional Black Caucus? Bernie Sanders?


I haven't seen anything out of the CBC to warrant calling them liberal. Kucinich got gerrymandered into an unwinnable primary. That will leave Sanders. Compared to the right-wing nuttery in Congress, that's absolutely pathetic.
 
2012-03-12 06:55:01 PM

CorporatePerson: I actually kind of like Huckabee, but there's no way he can personally take down Rush. Limbaugh's listeners are full of hate, and unless Huckabee can hate the liberals harder, the dittoheads won't give him the time of day.


That's sadly true. One of the good thing about Diane Reihm's show (that offsets her unfortunately-super-annoying-but-not-her-fault voice) is that she actually will let callers through who aren't necessarily of her opinion.

It was really bad this morning, though. Folks with their GED in law, and what not, calling in to support Phyllis Schlafly on the contraception hubbub. I appreciate that there is value in having differing viewpoints on a politics/current events show, but I don't think I've ever heard a more bitter, antagonistic guest on an NPR show. If I have, it's been a very long time.
 
2012-03-12 06:55:03 PM
How in hell can Obama be about even against Rmoney right now?

I know the real election campaign hasn't started and independents have no idea about anything, but still.

This country is really insane.
 
2012-03-12 06:56:27 PM
Rush Limbaugh won't vanish from the radio of course. But the overpriced Limbaugh program is highly vulnerable to economic shocks. "If just one station in a top-20 market replaces Limbaugh with Huckabee, it'll be an earthquake," remarks a veteran of the radio business.

And you can already hear the first tremors.


Hey Subby-Licious nice article. It rings true. Often as my fellow farceurs will attest to, I can get pretty yanked about an issue, but in reality, if you follow the money, the issues present themselves more clearly.
 
2012-03-12 06:57:16 PM

liverleef: Huckabee is an ass.


Yes but he's a polite ass and thats a huge improvement. Rush is a bully and he makes bullying look glamorous. I assume there will always be someone to express the fringe views but I would rather it was somebody who can at least maintain a civil tone.
 
2012-03-12 06:58:08 PM

smeegle: Rush Limbaugh won't vanish from the radio of course. But the overpriced Limbaugh program is highly vulnerable to economic shocks. "If just one station in a top-20 market replaces Limbaugh with Huckabee, it'll be an earthquake," remarks a veteran of the radio business.

And you can already hear the first tremors.

Hey Subby-Licious nice article. It rings true. Often as my fellow farceurs will attest to, I can get pretty yanked about an issue, but in reality, if you follow the money, the issues present themselves more clearly.


I was assured by a poster last week that Rush's show wasn't pricey at all to produce. Are you saying I was lead astray?
 
2012-03-12 06:58:51 PM
If Limbaugh's audience is literally dying off, Rush will be forced to either tone it down to attract a wider audience or charge less for his program. Even that might not help is local advertisers don't want to pay.

My Dad is in his 80s and is an avid listener. My Mom is in her 70s and isn't quite as enthusiastic. If this is Rush's demographic then he may well be out of business by 2016 with or without competition.
 
2012-03-12 06:59:14 PM

liverleef: Can't stand Huckabee. I know that for all the reasons I dislike him there are many more reasons to dislike Limbaugh.

Huckabee suggested every American should be forced to listen to liar, christian nationalist and national crackpot David Barton. He claimed that Obama has a different view than most Americans because he grew up in Kenya during the Mau Mau revolution. When people demanded he prove his claim that that Obama grew up in Kenya, he backtracked and claimed that he meant to say Indonesia. Did anyone ever call him out on the fact that the Mau Mau revolution did not take place in Indonesia. These are just a few of the things I thought of off the top of my head. Huckabee is an ass.


He certainly has his faults but I think he's a genuinely nice guy. I've watched his show a few times, and he does treat his liberal guests with respect and courtesy. Rush doesn't even have liberal guests and when one does somehow wander into his show he shouts them overboard.

And if it's sincere, the quote that Frum mentioned would be a nice tone for the Republican party to take after years of getting more and more hardline:

"I have to believe that there are people who are highly opinionated but who actually find it informative and engaging to find out what the other side is thinking," he says. "And not through a shouting match, but through an adult-level, civil conversation."

Even if he's said some cooky things in the past, we should embrace this attitude, not brush him off because he's a christian who falls for conspiracy theories occasionally.

As with all political and religious actors we need to embrace the moderates and marginalize the extremists.
 
2012-03-12 06:59:17 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-03-12 06:59:25 PM

Corvus: How in hell can Obama be about even against Rmoney right now?


He hasnt started campaigning yet AND we dont know who they are asking. It may just have been republicans because of the primary.
 
2012-03-12 07:00:02 PM

quickdraw: liverleef: Huckabee is an ass.

Yes but he's a polite ass and thats a huge improvement. Rush is a bully and he makes bullying look glamorous. I assume there will always be someone to express the fringe views but I would rather it was somebody who can at least maintain a civil tone.


Honestly, if you're an ass but you're well-spoken, polite and educated, I'm probably gonna be okay with you. I'm not gonna want to have you raise my kids, but we'll be able to have civil interactions.

Find smart people that you disagree with, and surround yourself with them.
 
2012-03-12 07:02:09 PM
Huckabee's views on policy are every bit as crazy as Limpdick's. Still, I always find myself thinking, "I despise your views, but god damn you are a nice motherfarker."

If he brings some civility to the hallelujahs, I'll count it as a win.
 
2012-03-12 07:02:30 PM

liverleef: Can't stand Huckabee. I know that for all the reasons I dislike him there are many more reasons to dislike Limbaugh.

Huckabee suggested every American should be forced to listen to liar, christian nationalist and national crackpot David Barton. He claimed that Obama has a different view than most Americans because he grew up in Kenya during the Mau Mau revolution. When people demanded he prove his claim that that Obama grew up in Kenya, he backtracked and claimed that he meant to say Indonesia. Did anyone ever call him out on the fact that the Mau Mau revolution did not take place in Indonesia. These are just a few of the things I thought of off the top of my head. Huckabee is an ass.


The Mau Mau revolution didn't take place in Indonesia? The Devil you say!
I'm getting my money back for those bogus action figures!
 
2012-03-12 07:03:10 PM

bulldg4life: I don't agree with most of Huckabee's policies and I am never to be confused with someone interested in religion or the right-wing....but Huckabee just strikes me as a decent guy. I have no idea if that is true or not and I doubt I'd ever vote for him, but for whatever reason, he doesn't bother me like some of the other GOP right-wing christian conservative types.

Perhaps it is those freakishly white teeth in the picture.


perhaps this picture is more to your liking? (they certainly seem.... well fed.)

wonkette.com
 
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