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(BBC)   Rogue US soldier accused of killing Afghan civilians, Paladin disapproves   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-03-11 09:15:12 AM  
Totally not paragon, dude.
 
2012-03-11 01:11:07 PM  
This is what people wanted, right? Taking off the gloves and waging real war?
 
2012-03-11 01:13:08 PM  
give him over to the Afghani people. He is no longer deserving of US Justice.
 
2012-03-11 01:13:14 PM  
He forgot to stay awhile and listen.
 
2012-03-11 01:13:22 PM  
At least his actions can be explained by mental illness, unlike the Afghans who killed people over their book of fairy tales being burned.
 
2012-03-11 01:13:30 PM  

wsash.net
"I what?"

 
2012-03-11 01:13:42 PM  
It was only a matter of time before something like this happened. We lost a lot of people from our supposed allies turning their guns on us and several more over this stupid Koran incident. Between that and a rIdiculous ROE over there someone was gonna snap and go apeshiat on these people.
 
2012-03-11 01:14:14 PM  

9beers: At least his actions can be explained by mental illness, unlike the Afghans who killed people over their book of fairy tales being burned.


Killing people over make believe sky wizards isn't a mental illness?
 
2012-03-11 01:14:23 PM  
Afghan officials are claiming more than one was involved, and that they were laughing and appeared drunk.

This is rapidly going downhill.
 
2012-03-11 01:14:27 PM  
images.wikia.com

Wizard did it.

/they were part black...dragons.
 
2012-03-11 01:15:01 PM  
Seriously, after they released Factotum, who the fark would be dumb enough to take Rogue?
 
2012-03-11 01:15:28 PM  
www.cabbagestew.com

Train him not told them said I...mmmmmmmm...
 
2012-03-11 01:16:14 PM  
What do expect from a super villian?
plus4chan.org
 
2012-03-11 01:17:07 PM  
Support the troops!
 
2012-03-11 01:17:35 PM  

PlatinumDragon: Afghan officials are claiming more than one was involved, and that they were laughing and appeared drunk.

This is rapidly going downhill.


Jesus Christ.
 
2012-03-11 01:18:02 PM  
I read the comments on the Fox News version of the story.

Ow. My soul.
 
2012-03-11 01:18:37 PM  
No Sarah Palin before the headline correction?
 
2012-03-11 01:18:40 PM  
Predictions:
Right wing radio hosts and Congressional leaders will declare this guy a hero.
American soldiers will die as a result of this guys actions.
If he gets out of prison, he'll become the next Senator from South Carolina.
 
2012-03-11 01:18:40 PM  

Infernalist: Nerf rouges, buff mascara.


"Nerf rock. Paper is fine."- Scissors
 
2012-03-11 01:19:19 PM  

Mugato: You know they're going to fix it and you're all going to look silly.


Yep. Meanwhile, even Newty boy is saying this is proof that we need to get ourselves out of that awful country. I agree with Newt Gingrich. I many have to go eat hemlock or something.
 
2012-03-11 01:19:34 PM  

Carth: Killing people over make believe sky wizards isn't a mental illness?


George Bush is a sky wizard?
 
2012-03-11 01:19:36 PM  
What do you expect to happen when you send 18 year olds to a worthless part of the country with allies that turn around and shoot your friends?

Those people bring absolutely nothing to the table and we shouldn't be there. F**k politicians for starting these pointless wars
 
2012-03-11 01:20:17 PM  
I was going to congratulate subby for at least spelling "rogue" correctly, but apparently he didn't.

A soldier with mental problems? Well, I've never heard of such a thing. Oh wait--I have. The US military just never has.
 
2012-03-11 01:20:23 PM  
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/sigh.
 
2012-03-11 01:20:52 PM  

rkallister: Rouge = face makeup


It's also a compound used for buffing/polishing metals. You can use it on a bench grinder with a buffing wheel attached to it, so i suppose that's kind of man-ish.
 
2012-03-11 01:20:53 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Predictions:
Right wing radio hosts and Congressional leaders will declare this guy a hero.
American soldiers will die as a result of this guys actions.
If he gets out of prison, he'll become the next Senator from South Carolina.


He is a hero, at least in my book.

American Soldiers are being killed over a farking book that got thrown in the trash by mistake, not to mention all the deaths at the hands of our supposed allies who have been turning their guns on us.

Even after all this, if he ran for Senate I'd still vote for him before any Democrat.
 
2012-03-11 01:21:03 PM  

Lane83: I read the comments on the Fox News version of the story.

Ow. My soul.


I wonder what Fox News comments would look like (or, hell, let's say Torygraph given the scenario I'm about to lay out) if the people under occupation were American, the books that had been disposed of were Bibles, and the occupying troops were primarily Chinese. Imagine the reaction to PLA "stabilization" troops going out and shooting up a small Alabama town.
 
2012-03-11 01:21:54 PM  
During my days of Warcraft, I found all too often that if douchebaggery was being committed, especially if it involved some level of cowardice, it was going to be a Paladin doing it. Being able to wear plate, bubble and heal to full health and/or bubble and hearth seemed to attract far more asshats than the rogue class did.
 
2012-03-11 01:22:58 PM  
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images.wikia.com
 
2012-03-11 01:24:03 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Predictions:
Right wing radio hosts and Congressional leaders will declare this guy a hero.
American soldiers will die as a result of this guys actions.
If he gets out of prison, he'll become the next Senator from South Carolina.


doubtful they'll call him a "hero", but they'll sure as heck swallow their tongues, or else call out the administration's if their condemnation goes "too far"

// can we just get the hell out, like now, please..
// seriously, out now, admit the whole thing was a big mistake, our involvement in Afhganistan should have been limited too very specified counter terrorism operations and nothing else. I think if Obama would just say that, and begin a large withdrawl, the republicans would undoubtedly howl, but he'd win the general in a landslide.
 
2012-03-11 01:24:24 PM  
I would like someone who knows this better than me to give me more information about the culture of deployed troops and their leaders.
Is mental illness still thought of as a character weakness that one must hide or was that never really an issue?
What happens when a well trained combat soldier is left too long with a serious mental illness in the field?

How does one express anger in a healthy way while deployed, healthy means not using violence or weapons as stress relief?
 
2012-03-11 01:25:37 PM  

PlatinumDragon: Lane83: I read the comments on the Fox News version of the story.

Ow. My soul.

I wonder what Fox News comments would look like (or, hell, let's say Torygraph given the scenario I'm about to lay out) if the people under occupation were American, the books that had been disposed of were Bibles, and the occupying troops were primarily Chinese. Imagine the reaction to PLA "stabilization" troops going out and shooting up a small Alabama town.


This. It's utterly amazing to me how Americans (to a far lesser extent, a few other westerners, but mostly us) like to shrug off massacres as "mistakes" made by "rogue lunatics", but when a crazy dude shoots up an Army base in OUR country, it's OMG TERRIZM! We're occupiers, people. It's amazing they put up with as much as they do.
 
2012-03-11 01:26:10 PM  

Bfett20: give him over to the Afghani people. He is no longer deserving of US Justice.



I agree.
 
2012-03-11 01:26:56 PM  
It is sad and bad for any hope of peace. But so many will forget the bombs that are set off by Taliban and other terrorists that killed hundreds more women and children included. But this just underscores the idea that we need to get out of that worthless sand bowl. Let them fight and kill each other until there is no one left.
 
2012-03-11 01:27:24 PM  

Glitchwerks: PlatinumDragon: Afghan officials are claiming more than one was involved, and that they were laughing and appeared drunk.

This is rapidly going downhill.

Jesus Christ.


Try him in Afghan court, and put the death penalty on the table. This is the ONLY way they will save face in this nightmare. Otherwise they are wasting their time even apologizing for this. No debate, no discussion, just give him to the mob. Otherwise they might as well just hand Afghanistan back over to the Taliban. The people won't accept anything but Afghan justice.
 
2012-03-11 01:27:25 PM  

Backwards Cornfield Races: What do you expect to happen when you send 18 year olds to a worthless part of the country with allies that turn around and shoot your friends?

Those people bring absolutely nothing to the table and we shouldn't be there. F**k politicians for starting these pointless wars


Hear hear
 
2012-03-11 01:27:31 PM  
I didn't know Michael Savage had been deployed.
 
2012-03-11 01:27:57 PM  

PlatinumDragon: Afghan officials are claiming more than one was involved, and that they were laughing and appeared drunk.

This is rapidly going downhill.


for who? going down hill for who the USA ?

poor USA.. (eyeroll)

another generation of suicide bombers has just been created , can you blame them?

USA should have been gone from there a long long time ago
... but has yet to learn the lessons of history for occupiers and liberators.


Terribly terribly sad for those families - USA GTFO for your own good .
 
2012-03-11 01:27:59 PM  

rev. dave: I would like someone who knows this better than me to give me more information about the culture of deployed troops and their leaders.
Is mental illness still thought of as a character weakness that one must hide or was that never really an issue?
What happens when a well trained combat soldier is left too long with a serious mental illness in the field?

How does one express anger in a healthy way while deployed, healthy means not using violence or weapons as stress relief?


The military has gone to great lengths to help those with PTSD and anger issues. We undergo regular screenings while depolyed as well as before and after. There is ALWAYS someone to go see if need be.

As for the stigma? It's fading with time. Pretty much any Soldier or Marine with any time in service has been deployed a couple of times and they get it now.

That being said, with all that has been going on over there with the green on blue killings, stupid ROE and all the rest, I knew it was a matter of time before someone went apeshiat and started killing people like this.
 
2012-03-11 01:28:37 PM  
When we burn their Qurans the locals freak out and kill civilians. Maybe if we kill their civilians they'll freak out and burn their Qurans.
 
2012-03-11 01:29:00 PM  

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: During my days of Warcraft, I found all too often that if douchebaggery was being committed, especially if it involved some level of cowardice, it was going to be a Paladin doing it. Being able to wear plate, bubble and heal to full health and/or bubble and hearth seemed to attract far more asshats than the rogue class did.


Oh, the headline is a WoW thing. Thanks.

/hates it when I don't get a headline
 
2012-03-11 01:29:04 PM  

Thisbymaster: It is sad and bad for any hope of peace.


The only hope for peace is for us to farking leave Afghanistan to the farking Afghans. Why the fark are we there? Bin Laden was in farking Pakistan, the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, why does Afghanistan matter?
 
2012-03-11 01:29:19 PM  
If this is true, the individuals should be drummed out, stripped of all rank, and hung by the neck until dead.
 
2012-03-11 01:29:22 PM  

The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii: Satanic_Hamster: Predictions:
Right wing radio hosts and Congressional leaders will declare this guy a hero.
American soldiers will die as a result of this guys actions.
If he gets out of prison, he'll become the next Senator from South Carolina.

He is a hero, at least in my book.

American Soldiers are being killed over a farking book that got thrown in the trash by mistake, not to mention all the deaths at the hands of our supposed allies who have been turning their guns on us.

Even after all this, if he ran for Senate I'd still vote for him before any Democrat.


A little blatant, especially with the name.

I know you think you're being funny, but I really wish they'd ban people like you by IP address. Trolling accounts aren't funny, it's just moronic.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:06 PM  
Rouge soldier was better
 
2012-03-11 01:30:09 PM  
fark.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:10 PM  

BudTheSpud: Glitchwerks: PlatinumDragon: Afghan officials are claiming more than one was involved, and that they were laughing and appeared drunk.

This is rapidly going downhill.

Jesus Christ.

Try him in Afghan court, and put the death penalty on the table. This is the ONLY way they will save face in this nightmare. Otherwise they are wasting their time even apologizing for this. No debate, no discussion, just give him to the mob. Otherwise they might as well just hand Afghanistan back over to the Taliban. The people won't accept anything but Afghan justice.


How bout we give you to the mob as a sacrifice instead. Just shut your stupid mouth and talk about something you have somewhat of a clue about.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:12 PM  

chapman: When we burn their Qurans the locals freak out and kill civilians. Maybe if we kill their civilians they'll freak out and burn their Qurans.


+1 for teh funnay.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:49 PM  

Mugato: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: During my days of Warcraft, I found all too often that if douchebaggery was being committed, especially if it involved some level of cowardice, it was going to be a Paladin doing it. Being able to wear plate, bubble and heal to full health and/or bubble and hearth seemed to attract far more asshats than the rogue class did.

Oh, the headline is a WoW thing. Thanks.

/hates it when I don't get a headline


It's actually a generic table-top/RPG reference, of which WOW is one. It's more likely a DnD reference, as WOW paladins don't have any mechanism for alignment restrictions.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:56 PM  
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