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2012-03-11 10:04:45 AM
I could see that. They've built an iPod where older people with bad eyes can actually see stuff.

And by old I mean over than 30.
 
2012-03-11 11:22:00 AM
dtdstudios.com
 
2012-03-11 11:22:56 AM
Meh. My kindle fire does what I need it to, and for the price I don't worry about incurring the cost of replacement. Troll headline will get plenty of bites.
 
2012-03-11 11:25:25 AM
Lol - haters gonna hate.

The great thing is that Apple is clearly sandbagging while everyone thinks they need an iPad clone. They don't - but they either don't understand that, or they don't want to cut the cord to their laptop sales.
 
2012-03-11 11:28:35 AM
Who cares?
 
2012-03-11 11:35:21 AM

dprathbun: Who cares?


People are consuming things you don't like! This is an outrage!
 
2012-03-11 11:37:03 AM

PonceAlyosha: dprathbun: Who cares?

People Hipsters are consuming things you don't like! This is an outrage!

 
2012-03-11 11:42:28 AM
The reason I will never switch to android, is that it obviously doesn't satisfy its users.
 
2012-03-11 11:47:08 AM
Tim: Did you hear Apple launched "the new i-Pad"?
Jim: No, I didn't. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad."
Jim: Yes, the new iPad. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad!"
Jim: Exactly, I want to know what the new iPad is called!
Tim: It's "the new iPad."
Jim: Hold on. I walk into the Apple Store and I say, "Give me a new iPad." What do they give me?
Tim: "The new iPad." Of course, you can also still buy an iPad 2.
Jim: If I'm already asking for one iPad, why would I ask for an iPad too?
Tim: No, no, an iPad 2. It's the old one.
Jim: So, if I ask for a second iPad, they'd give me an old iPad?
Tim: No, it would be a new iPad 2.
Jim: So it's a new iPad.
Tim: No, it's a new iPad 2, not "the new iPad."
Jim: So, what do I ask for if I want to buy the new iPad?
Tim: "The new iPad."
Jim: Forget it! I'm buying Android!
 
2012-03-11 11:48:42 AM

Ricardo Klement: Lol - haters gonna hate.

The great thing is that Apple is clearly sandbagging while everyone thinks they need an iPad clone. They don't - but they either don't understand that, or they don't want to cut the cord to their laptop sales.


What everyone needs is a PC equivalent in the tablet world. Cheap, capable, and sharing a commonality among its operating systems so that software is practically universal.
Apple is making what it always makes: a console system that locks you in to their software and hardware. It's their way or the highway. The product is refined, if limited.

At the moment the rest of the tablet market is trying to do things apples way. Everyone wants to run "the store" because you can make a lot of money... But that puts you in competition with people who have already made stupid amounts of cash at the same game.
In part I agree Everyone already knows they don't need an iPad clone, they need something more capable. We're just waiting for tablet makers to realize this too.
 
jgi
2012-03-11 11:52:18 AM
While power users can't get away with using the iPad as a laptop replacement (believe me, I tried), the great majority of normal users can. If all you do is check your email, surf the internet, absorb content, etc, you don't need a fully-fledged computer. Because most users don't use their computers to even half their capabilities, getting a tablet is really a smart idea. Extremely portable, versatile, no real risk of viruses (iPad), getting a tablet is a no-brainer for the ordinary person.

What's great, too, is that I have the first-gen iPad and it's still quick and snappy with the latest iOS update, a pleasure to use. Thinking like a normal user, this is a boon; no need to upgrade with every revision. The old iPad still checks my email and browses the internet just fine and I'm sure it'll be fine until the battery finally goes. For now, it still gets incredible battery life (even better with the latest update) and I can see it being a good device for at least a few more years.

With all that being said, I don't use it very often. But I'm a power user. It does most things I need, but it's not a enjoyable to manage other computers on a touch screen, the lack of a NIC adapter makes it difficult to tap into client networks when no wi-fi is available, and multitasking on the iPad just isn't good enough yet. I anticipate it the years to come, though, these things will change. And I look forward to it.
 
2012-03-11 11:56:35 AM

way south: At the moment the rest of the tablet market is trying to do things apples way. Everyone wants to run "the store" because you can make a lot of money... But that puts you in competition with people who have already made stupid amounts of cash at the same game.
In part I agree Everyone already knows they don't need an iPad clone, they need something more capable. We're just waiting for tablet makers to realize this too.


Yes. And Apple even knows this but is waiting to release features that would make their iPads true productivity devices rather than essentially consumption devices. Some features are left out that are not processor-heavy at all and I can't think of any reason other than wanting to limit creation functionality to maintain laptop sales.
 
2012-03-11 11:58:23 AM

way south: Everyone already knows they don't need an iPad clone, they need something more capable. We're just waiting for tablet makers to realize this too.


I used to think that was true. But when I travel now (for fun, not for work) I don't take my laptop, even though it's small and relatively light. I have my smart phone. What more do I need? I need maps and a browser. I can't think of anything I'd need or want to do on vacation that an iPad can't do.
 
2012-03-11 12:02:21 PM
In five years, ten, they're going to be how we compute.

Translation: In five years, ten, they'll be how idiots who don't care about having flexible computers, good keyboards or money goof about on the sofa.

I'm not saying the iPad is a fad, but I think people are extrapolating a lot from the current growth. The total of all mobile devices is about 7%. That's iPhones, iPads, Android, the lot. It only increased by 3% in 12 months. Most people are still using Macs and Windows to surf. My parents and in-laws aren't buying an iPad because their laptop does what they want, so spending £300+ on an iPad is just a pointless waste of money to them.
 
jgi
2012-03-11 12:04:49 PM

farkeruk: Translation: In five years, ten, they'll be how idiots who don't care about having flexible computers, good keyboards or money goof about on the sofa.


Read: 99% of users

You're not gonna go broke betting on tablets.
 
2012-03-11 12:19:47 PM
blogs.centrictv.com
 
2012-03-11 12:22:56 PM

StingerJ: way south: Everyone already knows they don't need an iPad clone, they need something more capable. We're just waiting for tablet makers to realize this too.

I used to think that was true. But when I travel now (for fun, not for work) I don't take my laptop, even though it's small and relatively light. I have my smart phone. What more do I need? I need maps and a browser. I can't think of anything I'd need or want to do on vacation that an iPad can't do.


Ive had a similar experience.
I don't take my laptop around anymore because the iPad is more convenient. It's instant on and the perfect thing for watching movies or posting to fark while popping....a squat on the toilet.

But of you try to use it as a sketch pad or note book, it immediately becomes clunky. Most apps that give it utility skirt around apples idea of this being a portal of consumption rather than creation. It's harder to save and modify things than it should be. Without drop box or log-me-in, getting data into this thing was problematic at best.

I don't think it's anything malicious on apples part. Faced with little competition, they are free to define what a tablet is. They can't be proven short sighted until other companies step up to the challenge by giving us that universal os and store.
 
2012-03-11 12:23:43 PM
I want a device that's easier to prop up on a treadmill. I can't think of a bunch of other uses, though.

Also, I can't imagine paying a separate data plan for a device other than a phone - tablet, netbook, etc. But, the only times I can imagine using one are when I'm out and away from reliable wifi.
 
2012-03-11 12:27:20 PM
I use a f*cking laptop.

/posted from my Android
 
2012-03-11 12:42:16 PM
way south
Apple is making what it always makes: a console system that locks you in to their software and hardware. It's their way or the highway. The product is refined, if limited.
This. Getting an iPad to play nice with anything except another iPad is like pulling teeth.
 
2012-03-11 12:44:18 PM
I work in custom integration and home automation and believe me, the iPad changed my industry virtually overnight. Now instead of $5k touch panels in the wall, we throw a $500 iPad and a $300 charging dock in the wall, or we have iPads in docks sitting all over the house.

The introduction of the iPad also forced the industry to refocus on the user interface. Take a look at Savant Home Automation (new window) to get an idea.

The iPad (for me) isn't just a big iPod. It's a new way to interact with all the electronics, security, lighting, and HVAC systems in your house. Pretty soon DIY products with the iPad (or other tablet) will start to become fairly common.

Cascading results from the release of a big iPod. Hmm.
 
2012-03-11 12:55:41 PM
Most people would be better off with a Kindle Fire or a Nook Tablet, all while saving $300.

Relax hipster, I said most people, not you.
 
2012-03-11 01:20:42 PM
I got an iPad from work, the only thing you can do with it is watch netflixs. Couldn't write emails or do anything. It was a waste of money.
 
2012-03-11 01:30:53 PM

Thisbymaster: I got an iPad from work, the only thing you can do with it is watch netflixs. Couldn't write emails or do anything. It was a waste of money.


You can't figure out how to use an iPad?
 
2012-03-11 01:36:13 PM

Yakk: Thisbymaster: I got an iPad from work, the only thing you can do with it is watch netflixs. Couldn't write emails or do anything. It was a waste of money.

You can't figure out how to use an iPad?


I really hate the touch screen interface too. I'd rather just use a keyboard.
 
2012-03-11 01:59:31 PM
I've had my iPad2 since shortly after the product launch. I stopped by a Wal-Mart when a shipment had just arrived, and as luck would have it, there was still one left after the employees hid them so their friends could ebay them for five times the employee-discount price.

I've had it for a year or so. In that time, I've used hundreds of apps, from the simplest to the most complex. My overall opinion is that it can do anything a real computer can do, but slower, and more inconveniently. Even surfing the internet is a pain in the ass with that damn thing. Sure, I can check out wikipedia while sitting on the couch. But in the time it takes to GO to wikipedia and find the thing I'm looking for, I could have stood up, walked over to my real computer, typed in what I was looking for, found it, nodded my head in agreement, walked over to the kitchen, poured myself a cup of coffee, stirred in some sugar and milk, thumbed through the mail on the counter, and then sat back down on the couch. An email came in? Cool! I can read it. Oh, it has an attachment? Well, crap. Better go over to the real computer and see what that's all about. Oooh, cool song playing in the background on House. I'm not gonna bother even trying to use the iPad. I'll just hit the pause button on the DVR so I can look up the episode, find out what music is playing, look for it on youtube, see what other songs the band has, listen to a couple of them, surf on over to Amazon, buy the album (so I can put the songs on ALL my devices, not just the iPad). That's a thirty minute exercise on the iPad. On a real computer, five minutes tops.

I keep hearing people say it's the "most intuitive" interface ever. I can't agree less. Sure, you can eventually puzzle everything out by wildly smearing various combinations of digits around the screen at random. If that's what they mean by "intuitive," then I guess they're right. And it's true- we don't need things like context menus, multiple windows open at the same time, etc. because it's an accepted fact that nobody expects people to DO anything with an iPad.

There are very few things I have regretted buying more than my iPad. Sure, it's a technological marvel. It just doesn't do anything that I find particular useful, and what it does do can be done faster and more conveniently by setting it down and walking over to a real computer. I suppose if I were an invalid confined to a bed (and had full use of both arms and all ten fingers), it might come in handy. Maybe it should be marketed as an assistive technology for the bedridden? I dunno. Can't see much else it's good for.
 
2012-03-11 02:06:22 PM

Nothing To See Here: Tim: Did you hear Apple launched "the new i-Pad"?
Jim: No, I didn't. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad."
Jim: Yes, the new iPad. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad!"


iPad early 2012 edition.

Apple uses the year as part of the model description but the actual model name a consumer sees stays the same. In many respects the iPad 2 is the odd one out as far as those things go.

I guess it's part of the whole "People buying Mac's don't care about wall pissing contests over the innards of the machine" thing.
 
2012-03-11 02:12:21 PM
Most of those I know with one regret buying, but then point out that they will be able to resell the motherfarker for a large chunk of the cost when they get done with it.

I'll be the first to say I find apple products to be generally inferior to my needs once cost enters the picture, but the rabidness on both sides of this discussion is silly.
 
2012-03-11 02:14:33 PM

tillerman35: But in the time it takes to GO to wikipedia and find the thing I'm looking for


This is the bit I find less than satisfactory about mine as well. Mobile Safari, once it gets going, is a fine browser but it takes way longer than it should to actually get going. Which, considering how much grunt is under the hood (you can edit video on the damn thing after all) is very very weird.

That and the delay they put on the WiFi makes it quite slow for copying files over via SMB (yes, it can do that. No it doesn't require jailbreaking. It does require an app though). An 11N network (300mbit/s), backed by Gigabit and fed from a disk array clocked at 100MB/s should not be copying files at 1MB/s

Overall it was a good purchase and the thing has become my go to as a portable device; I suspect my handbag is bigger than most others though (going by the whines that it's huge like Xbox I mean).
 
2012-03-11 02:21:27 PM
For musicians, it is well worth the money. The apps that are available can save a musician a lot of money, while making many tools available. Not to mention provide modular interfacing opportunities to control other instruments. The android music app selection is limited, and I've heard that has to do with its latency in android OS, but that's hearsay. I haven't met a musician who purchased one that isn't excited by its potential.
 
2012-03-11 02:25:16 PM

explodingtaco: For musicians, it is well worth the money. The apps that are available can save a musician a lot of money, while making many tools available. Not to mention provide modular interfacing opportunities to control other instruments. The android music app selection is limited, and I've heard that has to do with its latency in android OS, but that's hearsay. I haven't met a musician who purchased one that isn't excited by its potential.


I hope you're not using the word musician to describe dubstep producers.
 
2012-03-11 02:40:29 PM

soupbone:
I hope you're not using the word musician to describe dubstep producers.


iOS has inherited OS X's USB stack. A lot of USB MIDI connectors will quite happily work on the iPad, you can easily integrate it in to your studio if you wished.

I'm not saying anything about Dubstep, just that an iPad can speak MIDI and could in theory be used to making other forms of music... decent music... one would hope.
 
2012-03-11 02:48:54 PM
why do people care what I spend my motherfarking money on? Get over it.
 
2012-03-11 02:52:04 PM

tillerman35: Sure, I can check out wikipedia while sitting on the couch. But in the time it takes to GO to wikipedia and find the thing I'm looking for, I could have stood up, walked over to my real computer, typed in what I was looking for, found it, nodded my head in agreement, walked over to the kitchen, poured myself a cup of coffee, stirred in some sugar and milk, thumbed through the mail on the counter, and then sat back down on the couch.


How so?

The one thing that struck me about the iPad is that it might at least be OK for browsing. Does it have tabs yet?
 
2012-03-11 02:57:16 PM

farkeruk:
The one thing that struck me about the iPad is that it might at least be OK for browsing. Does it have tabs yet?


Yes it has tabs.

The browser is actually quite slow to make connections regardless of 3G or Wifi, despite it actually being a very nimble machine and similar slowness not being present in either Safari on the desktop or things like the iPads mail app.
 
2012-03-11 03:28:59 PM

soupbone: explodingtaco: For musicians, it is well worth the money. The apps that are available can save a musician a lot of money, while making many tools available. Not to mention provide modular interfacing opportunities to control other instruments. The android music app selection is limited, and I've heard that has to do with its latency in android OS, but that's hearsay. I haven't met a musician who purchased one that isn't excited by its potential.

I hope you're not using the word musician to describe dubstep producers.


Lord no. For example, the Jazz Mutant Lemur interface which used to be well over a thousand dollars. It was used by the likes of Bjork, NIN, and many others. Now its a 50 dollar app. There's another that allows you to control protools from an ipad, which is great when you're recording vocals in a sound proofed closet away from your computer. Then there's the Animoog app, which gives you a very very expressive keyboard that has no real competitively priced counterpart. You could get a haken continuum which'll cost 3500 dollars, a Buchla controller which'll be part of a system more expensive than that, or the Madrona soundplane which is still not widely available, but when it is, will cost around 2000 and require a computer.

It's a really great tool, and it gets crapped on by a lot of people, but it makes a lot of sense. For musicians, from classical players who need digital sheet music to people who are into experimental noise.
 
2012-03-11 04:00:52 PM

s2s2s2: The reason I will never switch to android, is that it obviously doesn't satisfy its users.


Huh, that's what Android users say about your mom.

Also, can't wait for Apple's next innovation for the iPad - an iPad with a permanently attached physical keyboard with an assortment of ports built into it; it will foils in half sort of like a book. Maybe they'll call it the iBook.
 
2012-03-11 04:22:47 PM

Trolljegeren: s2s2s2: The reason I will never switch to android, is that it obviously doesn't satisfy its users.

Huh, that's what Android users say about your mom.

Also, can't wait for Apple's next innovation for the iPad - an iPad with a permanently attached physical keyboard with an assortment of ports built into it; it will foils in half sort of like a book. Maybe they'll call it the iBook.


That's pretty much what they called it when they made it in 1999 (new window). They call it the MacBook now
 
2012-03-11 05:37:21 PM
Right on, smitty, right on.
 
2012-03-11 05:46:53 PM

jgi: While power users can't get away with using the iPad as a laptop replacement (believe me, I tried), the great majority of normal users can.


Could a 20-something non-"power user" trust their iPad (or Android) to successfully work with any corporate job application website? Any grad-school application? Any local government website for online transactions?

Major websites have good mobile versions or apps, but there's still plenty of web and computing out there that falls under the "I'll wait until I'm at a real computer" category. I don't think anyone but kids and old people could risk going tablet-only.

If tablets will evolve such that they can do everything computers can, then what's the difference?
 
2012-03-11 06:40:48 PM

Imaginary Cheese Jedi: Trolljegeren: s2s2s2: The reason I will never switch to android, is that it obviously doesn't satisfy its users.

Huh, that's what Android users say about your mom.

Also, can't wait for Apple's next innovation for the iPad - an iPad with a permanently attached physical keyboard with an assortment of ports built into it; it will foils in half sort of like a book. Maybe they'll call it the iBook.

That's pretty much what they called it when they made it in 1999 (new window). They call it the MacBook now


[Schwarzenegger's voice]
Dat's da joke.
[/Schwarzenegger's voice]
 
2012-03-11 06:43:12 PM

Trolljegeren: Imaginary Cheese Jedi: Trolljegeren: s2s2s2: The reason I will never switch to android, is that it obviously doesn't satisfy its users.

Huh, that's what Android users say about your mom.

Also, can't wait for Apple's next innovation for the iPad - an iPad with a permanently attached physical keyboard with an assortment of ports built into it; it will foils in half sort of like a book. Maybe they'll call it the iBook.

That's pretty much what they called it when they made it in 1999 (new window). They call it the MacBook now

[Schwarzenegger's voice]
Dat's da joke.
[/Schwarzenegger's voice]


Well your joke sucks McBain
 
2012-03-11 06:45:46 PM

Vaneshi: farkeruk:
The one thing that struck me about the iPad is that it might at least be OK for browsing. Does it have tabs yet?

Yes it has tabs.

The browser is actually quite slow to make connections regardless of 3G or Wifi, despite it actually being a very nimble machine and similar slowness not being present in either Safari on the desktop or things like the iPads mail app.


Change your dns to 8.8.8.8 which is googles and it will fly plus you can take advantage of cache pages
 
2012-03-11 07:29:17 PM

Nothing To See Here: Tim: Did you hear Apple launched "the new i-Pad"?
Jim: No, I didn't. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad."
Jim: Yes, the new iPad. What is it called?
Tim: "The new iPad!"


I know you're joking, but that conversation isn't far off from the one I had with my mom. She wants an ipad, and I told her to get the new one, because she complained about 'seeing the dots' on her friends ipad 1. That's what kept her from buying apparently. She's all anxious now that some shyster will sell her a new ipad 2 instead of "the new ipad". I told her she'd be fine at an Apple store, just go buy the damn thing. Well, not now, a week or two.

She doesn't even know what android is so it would have never ended the way yours did.

Anyway, thanks for that, Apple marketing.
 
2012-03-11 07:47:31 PM

tillerman35: My overall opinion is that it can do anything a real computer can do, but slower, and more inconveniently.


I can't help but feel that tablets in general are a market that was created rather than catered to. I can see the appeal of the tablet, but it seems like an obvious instance where being a first-in-line user is not really appealing.
 
2012-03-11 07:48:59 PM

Bondith: way south
This. Getting an iPad to play nice with anything except another iPad is like pulling teeth.


False.
 
2012-03-11 07:49:07 PM

Ricardo Klement: way south: At the moment the rest of the tablet market is trying to do things apples way. Everyone wants to run "the store" because you can make a lot of money... But that puts you in competition with people who have already made stupid amounts of cash at the same game.
In part I agree Everyone already knows they don't need an iPad clone, they need something more capable. We're just waiting for tablet makers to realize this too.

Yes. And Apple even knows this but is waiting to release features that would make their iPads true productivity devices rather than essentially consumption devices. Some features are left out that are not processor-heavy at all and I can't think of any reason other than wanting to limit creation functionality to maintain laptop sales.


Apple could care less about laptop/desktop computer sales at this point. If they thought they could get away
with not even releasing an SDK for any iOS device they would. With the release of the iPad they have finished
the move away from being a computer company to being a media provider, and in the process showed every
other computer maker how to exert centralized control over every copy of their OS by providing an end user
friendly 'store' through which they can get only 'approved' applications, and the only applications that will be
approved are ones that ad to the company's bottom line (even the 'free' apps will have embedded ads).

Its not quite back the days of mainframes, but it is remarkably close.
 
2012-03-11 08:36:29 PM
All of the mobility of the phone, none of the usability
None of the usability of a laptop, all of the mobility.

Yeah keep farking that horse applebags.
 
2012-03-11 09:03:34 PM

Yaxe: All of the mobility of the phone, none of the usability
None of the usability of a laptop, all of the mobility.

Yeah keep farking that horse applebags.


Fits in a purse and longer battery life though. If I was a woman, I might consider tablet over laptop. I can barely fit my phone in my pocket though. I got a big fat one in the winter, and I don't know wtf I'm gonna over the summer.
 
2012-03-11 10:38:19 PM

DjangoStonereaver:
with not even releasing an SDK for any iOS device they would.


Right because Apple, on their own, could write all the apps currently for sale. Even for a rampant fanboy that's a castle very high in the sky.

With the release of the iPad they have finished the move away from being a computer company
I believe they've described themselves as a "Technology Company" or similar words since before the iDevice stuff appeared. It'd be similar to just calling Microsoft the Windows company, they make a lot of other stuff (99% of it software I admit).

to being a media provider
Someones got to create that content, it's highly doubtful the TV production companies would fall for the same trick the RIAA did back when iTunes Store was first being put together. Of course, a heavily discounted iMac, Final Cut and a camera of some description plus a contract to provide X shows after they approve your pilot/draft script... that'd be interesting.

I'm not saying it'd be good. Just interesting. There are a lot of talented people out there itching to get a chance.

Its not quite back the days of mainframes, but it is remarkably close.
It's nothing like the days of the frames and dumb terminals. Even with all it's radios turned off the iPad still processes data quite happily. Try ripping the cable out the arse end of a dumb terminal and see how far you get.
 
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