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(The New York Times)   Obama wants to pick up women   (nytimes.com) divider line 21
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2012-03-11 02:05:11 PM
6 votes:
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2012-03-11 02:10:51 PM
2 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: When they lose, they will decide that they were not conservative enough.


I think it was Bob Bennett, the Utah senator who was ousted by a Tea Partier, who said that he was at a Republican meeting just after the 2008 election and presented a graph that showed that while voters went for Obama, the overall trend was that they were still conservative on a scale from 1 to 10. The average voter was pegged as about a 7. McCain was an 8, Obama a 6, so, as Bennett said, they were very close, they just needed to focus more on the center, and they would likely take the House and Senate in 2010, and the Presidency in 2012. The room went completely silent when he suggested a slight move to the left to gain voters. He closed up his presentation and left, and the next guy came up and said, "I don't know about all of you, but I'm a 12 on that scale!" and everyone applauded.

They were sure that, despite all evidence to the contrary, they needed to be more conservative, harder right than the party had really ever been. 2010 bore that out for them because again, they completely ignored the evidence that the Republican wins were due more to anti-incumbent feelings and the economy than some mythical right-wing mandate. Meanwhile folks who have been staunchly Republican for years are now calling themselves Independent and considering voting against the Republicans this year because of this massive misinterpretation along with the incredible overreach of the party in the two years since.

There are definitely party leaders who are now realizing that 2010 might not have been the real victory they thought it was, and that the continued tacking to the right is killing any chance they have of winning the Presidency, and possibly will cost them the Senate too. Hell, if they continue the attacks on women and minorities enough, they could potentially lose the House, though it's more likely that they will just lose some of their majority there and hang on it it. Not winning the Senate, though, in a year where it's very lopsided toward the Republicans taking it, would be a kick square to the nuts of the party.

And meanwhile all us filthy libs have to do is sit back and watch the GOP swallow its own tail. Kinda makes the three years of thinly veiled racism, sexism, and general derpiness worth it.
2012-03-11 12:33:50 PM
2 votes:
He can start by singing a bit of Al Green again. That was pretty cool. I'm a sucker for a man that loves him some Al Green. Of course, I was planning on voting for Obama anyway, but he can still woo me.
2012-03-11 11:27:47 AM
2 votes:

quickdraw: If anything, people become more set in their ways.


Or their parties change around them.
2012-03-11 09:30:23 AM
2 votes:
All this derp is probably going to cost them this election, but you've got to wonder how it's going to affect the future of the Republican Party as well. I mean, the Birther thing completely ended whatever small, tentative steps they were making to appeal to black voters. Embracing draconian anti-immigration measures has hurt them badly with Hispanic voters, and now all this derp chasing off women.

It's all aimed at keeping the scared old white people vote, and, true, those people vote more than any other. But they won't be voting that much longer.
2012-03-12 02:29:19 AM
1 votes:

ImpendingCynic: I think in the short term (up to 10 years or so) Republicans are going to ratchet up the derp even more. When they lose in November (and they're going to lose big) they'll only see it as a sign that the country is even more infested with satanic left-wingers than they thought.


I'm not sure about that. Their current campaign seems more like an anti-sex campaign than a presidential run. Next time they'll have to find something else that's extremely popular to campaign against, like food, breathing, or adorable baby animals.
2012-03-11 08:40:36 PM
1 votes:

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2012-03-11 04:34:41 PM
1 votes:

quickdraw: A vote for Obama is a vote for Vagina!


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2012-03-11 04:23:09 PM
1 votes:

DeaH: snowshovel: DeaH: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But where, oh where is he going to find any material for campaign ads that suggests Republicans aren't pro-women?

I was thinking that Obama could petition Limbaugh's advertisers to come back - at least through the election.

what happens if pro-Obama super pacs start placing ads on Rush's show? Can Rush deny them on content?

Gosh, that would be pretty wonderful. Imagine what it would do to Rush's regular listeners.


What a perfect use for Colbert's super-pac.
2012-03-11 03:20:03 PM
1 votes:

ox45tallboy: osgeek: Animatronik: ginandbacon: I know of 3 life-long older Republican women who will be voting for Obama in 2012.

Alzheimer's, it's a terrible disease. Especially when you've got Democrats trolling you about Social Security all day long.
(not that I believe a word of this story).

Holy crap, this is the Boobies in this thread that isn't just a lib circle jerk. It looks like anyone who isn't a rabid liberal has been driven off by all the derp.

I don't understand. Plenty of people have provided plenty of examples of poor attempts at humor by conservatives in this thread. I think you could add to the discussion by showing an example of a good attempt at conservative humor - i.e., something that displays liberal hypocrisy or conflict of ideals. Instead, you're all, "Waaah! The liberals are picking on me! Waaahhh!!! They disagree with the way I feel!!! Waaaaahh!!! And there are more of them!!! Waaahhhh!!!! And they're backing up their arguments with EVIDENCE! WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!"

Jeez, I shouldn't have to write your posts for you.


See, you're too stupid to even know what farking thread you're posting in. You think you're posting in the thread where a bunch of liberal comedians decided that liberals are funny and then a bunch of liberal farkers agreed with them.

Now, let's gauge your integrity. Do you fess up and apologize for being a dumbass? Do you step away from your keyboard and think, "If I can't even know where I'm posting, how can I have any certainty over the positions that I advocate?"

Or do you just keep posting retarded old Spidey pics with lame ass captions? Are you trying to get the smart or the funny vote on Fark with those? Is that the kind of validation that you look for in your day?
2012-03-11 02:35:48 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy:

Thing is, the older people get, the more narrow minded, and the more protective of their way of life (afraid if you will) they become. So there's always going to be old scared white people around.



Are white people the only ones who get old?



I'm asking myself if there is a corelation between the belief systems of the 'older generation' and a culture's propensity towards extended multi-generational families.

It strikes me that if one imagines the very liberal 'live and let live' elderly woman, that the first image that pops to mind (Betty White notwithstanding) is a European, Asian or Hispanic grandmother who spends the majority of her time with her children and grandchildren in a family setting, and not people who have moved to gated communities in the sun belt.

It would seem to me that if you weren't exposed to the daily lives of younger people trying to make their way, if the real needs of your grandchildren weren't abstractions, but dinner-table realities, that it would be harder to be all 'I got mine,' about the future of the society.

And perhaps that's also why it seems like there are so many older hyperconservative sorts...maybe there isn't actually by numbers, but since they all seem to congregate together, to the exclusion of other demographics, it just appears that way?
2012-03-11 02:30:30 PM
1 votes:

skinink: I wonder if any of Obama's PACs would dare to work in a Limbaugh 'slut' reference in any of the ads just to make the GOP look that much worse, or would they rather take the high road and let the voices of the GOP just ruin things themselves.
And although I was kind of hoping that Romney would win the nomination and at least give Obama a decent opposing candidate, I hope Romney loses big. His recent comments about European gov't totally controlling the lives of the citizens is just crazy. It's bind bending how he thinks he's going to get away with slandering the very politicians he's going to deal with if he became President.


At this point I have no idea what sort of ads the Democrats could run that would be more effective than just giving the cash to the Republicans and letting them run even more of their own ads.

I mean, one of their biggest talking points is that he's an "ineffectual leader" because he couldn't keep Congress in line. Seriously. They really believe he's ineffective because he couldn't force their guys to do what he wanted.

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2012-03-11 02:15:39 PM
1 votes:

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2012-03-11 01:56:29 PM
1 votes:

DaCricket: jake_lex: It's all aimed at keeping the scared old white people vote, and, true, those people vote more than any other. But they won't be voting that much longer.

Thing is, the older people get, the more narrow minded, and the more protective of their way of life (afraid if you will) they become. So there's always going to be old scared white people around.


There was a study a few years ago that found that individuals become more liberal with age. The oldest cohort may still be more conservative than the younger ones, but they are more liberal than they were. Link (new window)
2012-03-11 01:51:47 PM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: jake_lex: All this derp is probably going to cost them this election, but you've got to wonder how it's going to affect the future of the Republican Party as well. I mean, the Birther thing completely ended whatever small, tentative steps they were making to appeal to black voters. Embracing draconian anti-immigration measures has hurt them badly with Hispanic voters, and now all this derp chasing off women.

It's all aimed at keeping the scared old white people vote, and, true, those people vote more than any other. But they won't be voting that much longer.

Knowing how the gop "thinks", by around late November, they're gonna wake up from the catatonic stupor of having their asses handed to them, do some serious soul-searching, and come to the usual conclusion that they lost because they weren't mean-spirited and brutal enough to win.

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Remember, this is a political party that thought that McCain taking the mic away from that crazy-haired cat lady and saying that Obama's not an Arab and he's a good person was his campaign-killer. In other words, the gop wants to be more like the crazy-haired cat lady.


When they lose, they will decide that they were not conservative enough.
2012-03-11 01:39:25 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy:

Thing is, the older people get, the more narrow minded, and the more protective of their way of life (afraid if you will) they become. So there's always going to be old scared white people around.



Are white people the only ones who get old?


No, but they always seem to be the ones that vote Republican. ;)
2012-03-11 12:46:27 PM
1 votes:

ox45tallboy: Hey, it's only the Republican politicians that want to do away with it. Ask any American close to or beyond retirement age if they want to do away with Social Security, then be sure to step back so they won't take your head clean off your shoulders. Unfortunately, these people believe "entitlements" means government checks to support single black mothers' Friday nights at the club.


Trust me, in Oklahoma, they all want to do away with it. Just for me though, not for them. Because they've already paid into it and they deserve their money, you see.
2012-03-11 12:37:20 PM
1 votes:
Hit send too soon... we're going to get older, and we want the Social Security and Medicare that we have paid into our whole lives -- something the Republicans want to take because it's an "entitlement" (which somehow became a bad word, even though we are legitimately entitled to the money we paid in). Things like that are going to be problematic for them.
2012-03-11 12:32:16 PM
1 votes:
I don't know, Republicans have a very firm grasp on female voters lately. Sounds like a long shot.
2012-03-11 12:30:47 PM
1 votes:

abb3w: Attractive and Successful African American president is likely to be successful at it, too.


Once you go black.....
2012-03-11 09:50:44 AM
1 votes:

jake_lex: It's all aimed at keeping the scared old white people vote, and, true, those people vote more than any other. But they won't be voting that much longer.


Thing is, the older people get, the more narrow minded, and the more protective of their way of life (afraid if you will) they become. So there's always going to be old scared white people around.
 
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