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(Daily Mail)   A convicted murderer is suing his prison for £50,000 because his victim's son has sent him greetings cards, this he claims is a breach of his human rights   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 78
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2012-03-11 07:32:17 AM  
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I've always been amused by the fact that in UK they are "HM Prisons" - HM meaning 'Her Majesty'.

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"I like locking bad people up"
 
2012-03-11 08:19:02 AM  

LonMead: The man who murdered my fiancee in 1989 was getting cards on the anniversary of her death.

They made me stop.


Could you send a card from her on his birthday?
 
2012-03-11 08:22:33 AM  

Smurfme: In Georgia, your family is aloudallowed to get an education.


Please do.
 
2012-03-11 08:35:51 AM  

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I've always been amused by the fact that in UK they are "HM Prisons" - HM meaning 'Her Majesty'.

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"I like locking bad people up"


It's worse than that. People held for an undetermined time are "detained at Her Majesty's pleasure."

Sadistic biatch.
 
2012-03-11 09:54:23 AM  
He was jailed for 30 years for gangland murder in 1996

Huh? Was a time machine involved?
 
2012-03-11 10:07:07 AM  
So what do these cards say?

If it's "Hey, happy b-day, dude! Regards, Victimson." I don't see how they would be directly degrading, and the sliver of optimist in me might think I have a chance to reconcile when I get out of prison.

If it's "Hey, Happy b-day, you murderous arse. How's the ol' tail-pipe?" Then it might be cause for getting a bit miffed.

If it's always a long-winded diatribe about how the family has suffered because of the loss of the victim, that details their hopes for what torment awaits his soul when he finally dies choking on Bubba's canker-ridden yogurt cannon... Then why in the hell is he opening any additional mail from the victim's family?
 
2012-03-11 10:19:05 AM  
Put him in a dark solitary cell with a half a box of matches. Then nothing will be able to bother him.
 
2012-03-11 10:19:15 AM  

LonMead: The man who murdered my fiancee in 1989 was getting cards on the anniversary of her death.

They made me stop.



How'd they do that?

/oh, they really couldn't, wink wink
 
2012-03-11 10:22:37 AM  
Dear Mr. Killer,

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2012-03-11 11:03:53 AM  

Mixolydian Master: It's complete bullshiat the way they force him to open the cards and read them. WTF is wrong with Britain?


Read the god damn card!


Lol.
 
2012-03-11 11:12:49 AM  
Can he send a card back that, says " I heard you like Batman so I killed your parents"
 
2012-03-11 11:17:50 AM  

fluffytuff: Just checked, and no it's not made up: From NYC Dept. of Corrections Handbook (new window)

At most correctional facilities, inmates are allowed two food packages per month, and the combined weight can not exceed 35 pounds (see exceptions for TV facilities). Food packages received from both visitors, and through the mail, shall be included in the two-package limit. Food items must be commercially or hermetically sealed and contain no alcohol. For exceptions, please review the list of allowable items.


Was more referring to the dog food strategy.
 
2012-03-11 11:46:09 AM  
Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?
 
2012-03-11 11:59:57 AM  

offmymeds: Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?


It would be if the guy is killing the drug dealer to steal his drugs in order to sell the drugs for a quick profit.
 
2012-03-11 12:01:52 PM  

Mugato: He was jailed for 30 years for gangland murder in 1996

Huh? Was a time machine involved?


That's how Daily Fail says "sentenced."
 
2012-03-11 12:18:56 PM  

CrispFlows: offmymeds: Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?

It would be if the guy is killing the drug dealer to steal his drugs in order to sell the drugs for a quick profit.

Is

that how it went down?
 
2012-03-11 12:45:31 PM  
And if they didn't deliver them, he would have sued too.
Prisoners have nothing but time on their hands and nothing to do except file lawsuits to clog the system.
Fark those people.
 
2012-03-11 01:00:57 PM  

batcookie: CrispFlows: Satanic_Hamster: TommyymmoT: In New York State, inmates are allowed to receive up to 30 pounds per month, of food sent them by family.
What the revenge minded have been doing for years, is mailing them 30 pounds of dog food, so that when their family's package arrives, it's rejected, because you've already reached your monthly limit.

None of mama's lasagna for you.
For you, ALPO!

Sounds made up.

It's true about the weight limit but not the dog food thing,

Handbook for the Families and Friends of New York State DOCCS Inmates (new window)

"Generally speaking, inmates may receive a package through the mail or at a visit from anyone who is not on a negative correspondence or negative vendor list." ... "At most correctional facilities, inmates are allowed two food packages per month, and the combined weight can not exceed 35 pounds"

Theoretically, they could still do that using a fake name and address, could they not? I mean if inmates can receive packages from anyone unless they're on that list, it seems that they could just put "Joe *Last name of offender*, 123 Fake Street," rather than their own name that is blacklisted. I mean, unless there's a 'return to sender' kind of deal, most POs don't do checks on the return address. I don't know of any stories of it happening personally, but I don't know that it's impossible to do... (in fact I'm sure if there's even one NYS Farker who is either a crime victim or family of a crime victim, they're going to start doing this now upon reading that)


Hate having to play devil's advocate over this, but seriously, why would you think that prison officials would count a supply of Alpo as being one of the two allowed food packages per month ?
 
2012-03-11 01:16:51 PM  

capt.hollister: Hate having to play devil's advocate over this, but seriously, why would you think that prison officials would count a supply of Alpo as being one of the two allowed food packages per month ?


Exactly, which is why I find the story made up. Especially considering dog food isn't really, well, human food. While the story sounds cute and funny at the surface "hah hah, they're screwing over a criminal," do you actually think they'd allow this?
 
2012-03-11 02:14:02 PM  
He is doing his time yes? Then no one should be allowed to harass him. File a civil suit against the family member, not the prison.
 
2012-03-11 03:30:56 PM  

offmymeds: Is that how it went down?


I'm fairly certain the judge has more access to the details than you or me and therefore are more qualified to know "how it went down" and also due to this, more qualified to express judgement about the crime.

Cause, y'know, he's a judge.
 
2012-03-11 05:59:46 PM  

offmymeds: Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?


The article says "suspected drug dealer".
 
2012-03-11 11:01:22 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: offmymeds: Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?

The article says "suspected drug dealer".


It is also within the realm of possibility that one "thoroughly evil" person kills another evil person and goes to jail for it. Doesn't make him any less evil.
 
2012-03-11 11:43:23 PM  

wambu: LonMead: The man who murdered my fiancee in 1989 was getting cards on the anniversary of her death.

They made me stop.

Could you send a card from her on his birthday?


Thought about it, but I wasn't allowed to send any correspondence to him. I got friends to send stuff, but they caught onto that, too.

Rich Cream: LonMead: The man who murdered my fiancee in 1989 was getting cards on the anniversary of her death.

They made me stop.

How'd they do that?

/oh, they really couldn't, wink wink


Yes, they really could. A restraining order was filed against me by the State of Georgia from sending (or conspiring to send-see above) anything to him through the mail, I am not allowed to approach the prison, and (supposedly) I'm to let them know when I am travelling through central Georgia (where the prison is-I've never really tested this). The only time I am allowed near him is during the parole hearings when I make my impact statement.

Violation is a misdemeanor 1st offense, low-grade felony for repeated attempts - there's a fine involved, and he's just not worth the trouble.
 
2012-03-12 12:25:08 AM  

capt.hollister: batcookie: CrispFlows: Satanic_Hamster: TommyymmoT:

Hate having to play devil's advocate over this, but seriously, why would you think that prison officials would count a supply of Alpo as being one of the two allowed food packages per month ?


Send Fruitcake. Two problems solved - you get rid of that nasty shiat, and you screw up his allowance for the year.
 
2012-03-12 05:06:25 AM  

offmymeds: Wait a minute...the guy blows away a drug dealer, is arrested, convicted and sentenced and the judge calls him 'thoroughly evil'? Did I somehow wake up this morning in the bizarro universe?


Most of the time when someone kills a drug dealer, it's related to the drug dealing.

If you're basically a law abiding citizen, you don't have a lot of reasons to be shooting drug dealers. However, one dealer shooting another, that happens all the time. Maybe it's to get rid of the competition, maybe it's to steal his drugs and sell them, maybe it's because one of them fronted for the other one and didn't pay up, maybe it's just some crackhead who thinks "If I shoot my dealer, I'll have enough drugs to last a long time".

Even if the guy he shot was actually a drug dealer, that doesn't make the killer a saint by any stretch.
 
2012-03-12 08:53:18 AM  
Let's not forget he killed a drug dealer.

For all we know this was a Rorschach vigilante type situation.
 
2012-03-12 03:40:56 PM  

Glenechocreek: In Kentucky, your family is allowed to send you 10 packs of cigarettes a month. The revenge minded send bubble gum cigarettes, so when your Marlboros show up you can't have them because you're past your limit.


I heard in California that your family is allowed to send 2 six-packs of beer a month. The revenge minded send O'doul's, so when your Keystone Lights show up you can't have them because you're past your limit.

/I was really hoping this meme would take off.
 
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