Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(NYPost)   Jets' Mark Sanchez signs three-year contract extension. New York immediately removes all signs of Peyton Place   (nypost.com) divider line 116
    More: Followup, Mark Sanchez, Jets, New York, Mike Tannenbaum, NFL Scouting Combine, Peyton Manning, free agents  
•       •       •

694 clicks; posted to Sports » on 10 Mar 2012 at 11:05 AM (3 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



116 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-03-10 06:17:30 PM  

davidphogan: InferiousX: With the exception of maybe the Patriots, Saints and Giants Manning could walk into any team's office and they'd think long and hard about it.

Unlikely. I doubt the Chargers, Lions, Rams, Steelers, Ravens, 49ers, or even the Bills would consider it as a good business decision. They've all locked in on a QB.


There are good reasons why any or all of those teams wouldn't sign Peyton, but I think that InferiousX was pointing out that even for teams who seemingly have "their guy" at QB, that Manning would still be an upgrade. Of the above list, only the Chargers, Lions, and Steelers have a guy with the talent to carry a team to the Super Bowl. But a healthy Manning is better than all three of those guys, at least in 2012.

There are good reasons why the Rams, Ravens, Niners, and Bills wouldn't sign Manning, but the notion that he wouldn't be a significant upgrade for all of them is just insane.
 
2012-03-10 06:29:43 PM  

iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.


Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.
 
2012-03-10 06:34:35 PM  
J - E - T - ah, fark it.
 
2012-03-10 06:37:50 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: davidphogan: InferiousX: With the exception of maybe the Patriots, Saints and Giants Manning could walk into any team's office and they'd think long and hard about it.

Unlikely. I doubt the Chargers, Lions, Rams, Steelers, Ravens, 49ers, or even the Bills would consider it as a good business decision. They've all locked in on a QB.

There are good reasons why any or all of those teams wouldn't sign Peyton, but I think that InferiousX was pointing out that even for teams who seemingly have "their guy" at QB, that Manning would still be an upgrade. Of the above list, only the Chargers, Lions, and Steelers have a guy with the talent to carry a team to the Super Bowl. But a healthy Manning is better than all three of those guys, at least in 2012.

There are good reasons why the Rams, Ravens, Niners, and Bills wouldn't sign Manning, but the notion that he wouldn't be a significant upgrade for all of them is just insane.


Four neck surgeries and still not 100% at this point. You go after the guy if you're the Broncos, Cardinals and Dolphins because you have incumbents there that have shown next to nothing in the NFL. So if Manning gets hurts again or is ineffective and you have to get rid of him after a year, it's not really setting you back at all. If the Ravens, Niners, or Jets take that plunge and it doesn't work out, it can set your franchise back another 3 or 4 years at that position.

We're all assuming Peyton will get healthy in the next six months before the season starts, but no one can bank on it until he actually gets out and plays.
 
2012-03-10 06:38:24 PM  
It is too bad that the teams that would be the best fit (in terms of being a good QB away from being a Super Bowl contender) are all going to stick with mediocre QBs they somehow have convinced themselves are good. I'm thinking specifically of Ravens and 49ers, perhaps also Texans (who have a good QB, but Peyton would be an upgrade). You could throw Jets in here, but Peyton was never going to go to that circus.
 
2012-03-10 06:45:44 PM  

coolio mack: So if Manning gets hurts again or is ineffective and you have to get rid of him after a year, it's not really setting you back at all. If the Ravens, Niners, or Jets take that plunge and it doesn't work out, it can set your franchise back another 3 or 4 years at that position.


Counterpoint: those franchises are arguably already setting themselves back several years by counting on mediocre QBs. All three have championship level defenses whose windows could easily close before/if their QBs ever become elite.

Yes, Peyton is a gamble, but so is crossing your fingers and hoping your QBs suddenly get way better and/or that your defenses will still be great years down the road.
 
2012-03-10 06:56:19 PM  

Bill Frist: Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.


But it is known and it is predictable. The best example I have personal knowledge of is the Washington Redskins after Gibbs's 2nd year back. They went 10-6 and won a playoff game. Santana Moss had almost 1500 yards, and Portis ran for 1300-1400. After they had one insanely awful offensive game in the playoffs, they revamped the entire offense, bringing in Al Saunders as OC, and promptly shat the bed the entire next two seasons. Sometimes going with what you have and what works, mediocre as it may be, can be preferable to wild, gambling changes.
 
2012-03-10 07:05:09 PM  

InferiousX: With the exception of maybe the Patriots, Saints and Giants Manning could walk into any team's office and they'd think long and hard about it.


Ummm Packers would ask why he wasted his time flying there.

/it's Seattle, Denver, Arizona, or Miami
 
2012-03-10 07:09:35 PM  

IAmRight: /it's Seattle, Denver, Arizona, or Miami


Cardinals 35%
Broncos 25%
Seahawks 15%
Dolphins 10%
None of the Above 15%
 
2012-03-10 07:10:14 PM  

Bill Frist: coolio mack: So if Manning gets hurts again or is ineffective and you have to get rid of him after a year, it's not really setting you back at all. If the Ravens, Niners, or Jets take that plunge and it doesn't work out, it can set your franchise back another 3 or 4 years at that position.

Counterpoint: those franchises are arguably already setting themselves back several years by counting on mediocre QBs. All three have championship level defenses whose windows could easily close before/if their QBs ever become elite.

Yes, Peyton is a gamble, but so is crossing your fingers and hoping your QBs suddenly get way better and/or that your defenses will still be great years down the road.


That's a fair point, but if you're the GM of one of those teams - prepared to be fired if it doesn't work out.

Let's take the Ravens for example. Their defense has one, maybe two elite years left in it with its current group of players. A healthy Peyton could get that team over the top, no doubt about it. But on the flip side, Flacco has been pretty good. You might say mediocre, but if you step back and take a look at his career numbers and playoff success, he's the best thing the Ravens have had for a long, long time. And he made the plays to get that team to the Super Bowl last year - it's not his fault Lee Evans didn't hold on to the ball towards the end of the game. So if I'm Ozzie, it's extremely hard for me to justify bringing in Manning when I'm not 100% positive that he's going to make it back to be the Manning of old. If my owner comes to me and tells me to get it done, then that's a different story.
 
2012-03-10 07:13:43 PM  

kronicfeld: Bill Frist: Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

But it is known and it is predictable. The best example I have personal knowledge of is the Washington Redskins after Gibbs's 2nd year back. They went 10-6 and won a playoff game. Santana Moss had almost 1500 yards, and Portis ran for 1300-1400. After they had one insanely awful offensive game in the playoffs, they revamped the entire offense, bringing in Al Saunders as OC, and promptly shat the bed the entire next two seasons. Sometimes going with what you have and what works, mediocre as it may be, can be preferable to wild, gambling changes.



Not when you are a legit contender if you take a gamble.
 
2012-03-10 07:57:46 PM  
I don't see how the Broncos can keep Tebow if they sign Manning. Most of Mannings skillset is not transferable (see Sorgi, Jim and Painter, Curtis) so Tebow sits another year and is either due a big contract while many questions remain about his ability or he walks.

I have to believe a deal with Jacksonville is in the works as Elway has never for a minute bought into the Tebow magic.
 
2012-03-10 08:20:58 PM  
I doubt he goes to any NFC West team.

Niners will only negotiate with him to get Smith's price down, and I doubt he wants to play for a maybe-good-with-him team that has to face the SF defense twice a year.

Dolphins or Broncos.
 
2012-03-10 08:47:58 PM  

JohnHall: The contract went from $17.5M guaranteed for 2012/2013 to 20.25 guaranteed for 2012/2013.

Jets went from about $7M under the cap to about $14M under the cap this season.

The Jets have a lot of room under the cap and 4 starters (none of top tier quality) as FA next season (Slauson, Moore, Greene, Keller) for 2013. Most likely the Jets will move some of the 2013 commitments to 2014 when the cap will go up by $30 - $40M due to the new TV contract.

Since the Jets already decided to keep Sanchez for next season, pushing the guaranteed money makes sense, because the $7M in cap savings this season is worth more than the $10M in cap spend in 2013 (because they already have a lot of money), and FAR more than 2014 (because the extra $30M+ under the cap).

Essentially the Jets felt it was better to go from $7M under in 2012 + (I'm guessing) $30M under in 2013, to $14M under in 2012 + (I'm guessing) $20M under in 2013.

On the off chance that Sanchez improves, the Jets all of a sudden have an incredibly cap friendly contract that they own the whole option on. There's a lot of risk, but it's not a terrible move by the GM


Whatever gets you to sleep at night buddy
 
2012-03-10 09:13:19 PM  

bionicjoe: Why Would I Read the Article: Are the Jets aware that Sanchez is among the worst QB's in football? Have they ever watched him play? What on earth would compel them to extend Sanchez?

Sanchez is fine. Jets have a defense that is a shadow of the 2009 team & the offense has changed out a ridiculous amount of people. However they're sticking with LT & Greene which isn't working.

Sanchez has 2 good seasons and damn near pulled off a 20 point comeback in the AFC Championship game at Pittsburgh.

Of course if I'm wrong fark the Jets. It is way too much money.


Were those seasons in an alternative universe or are they going to happen at some point in the future? Well technically I guess you could say he had 2 good years at USC. I'll just stick with it.
 
2012-03-10 09:15:22 PM  

Anarchangel: I doubt he goes to any NFC West team.

Niners will only negotiate with him to get Smith's price down, and I doubt he wants to play for a maybe-good-with-him team that has to face the SF defense twice a year.

Dolphins or Broncos.


I think he will go to Broncos or Dolphins too, but why would he avoid the NFC West, one of the weakest divisions, just to go to the AFC East and face Brady's Pats and the Jets (who are kind of a joke, but still a tough team) 4 times a year?
 
2012-03-10 09:26:52 PM  

Bill Frist: Not when you are a legit contender if you take a gamble.


49ers were a legit contender without him. They were a punt returner with hands away from the Super Bowl.
 
2012-03-10 09:30:31 PM  

IAmRight: 49ers were a legit contender without him. They were a punt returner with hands away from the Super Bowl.


A back-up punt returner, at that. Thank you for being the one non-retard on the sports boards.
 
2012-03-10 09:32:48 PM  

kronicfeld: IAmRight: 49ers were a legit contender without him. They were a punt returner with hands away from the Super Bowl.

A back-up punt returner, at that. Thank you for being the one non-retard on the sports boards.


Imagine what would happen if they could convert more than 1/4 of their 3rd downs...
 
2012-03-10 09:48:34 PM  

INeedAName: Super Chronic: The Bestest: ..though interesting question.. this (and the Redskins') move comes after Peyton told those teams "no".
Has he said at least "maybe" to anyone yet?

The dude sure is spending a lot of time in Denver. I don't give a crap about the Broncos, in fact I sort of dislike them, but it would make for some great threads if he signed there.

Of all the teams left, though, I think Seattle is the only one who can tell him "sign with us, and we'll let you bring Reggie Wayne and, if you insist, Dallas Clark, too. Here's the check."

Sign him in Denver and make Tebow a TE.


If they sign Peyton Tebow is gone. He and the management know Tebow as a second stringer puts undue stress on the starter and the whole offense.
 
2012-03-10 09:58:26 PM  

IAmRight: Bill Frist: Not when you are a legit contender if you take a gamble.

49ers were a legit contender without him. They were a punt returner with hands away from the Super Bowl.


Well, I was talking about those teams in general not just the 49ers. That said, it depends on how you look at it. They were a play away from getting to the Super Bowl, that's true. They were also a play away from being one-and-done in the playoffs (remember Saints game was 36-32)

49ers look like a good team. So i'm not slagging them. But football has a small sample size and a lot of luck in the playoffs. 49ers emerged from the weakest division to win one (close) playoff game. They aren't exactly a super bowl lock next year.

But they have a championship caliber team and a mediocre QB. Peyton might be a good gamble here.
 
2012-03-10 10:00:19 PM  

The Bestest: Just think.. if Chad Pennington wasn't actually a golem constructed of glass, balsa wood and paper-mache, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.


Poor bastard. I really liked Pennington and his mental determination but when you look around and you're the second toughest guy named Chad it's time to wonder if a non-contact sport might have been a better choice.
 
2012-03-10 10:05:25 PM  

Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.


They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.

Bill Frist: It is too bad that the teams that would be the best fit (in terms of being a good QB away from being a Super Bowl contender) are all going to stick with mediocre QBs they somehow have convinced themselves are good. I'm thinking specifically of Ravens and 49ers, perhaps also Texans (who have a good QB, but Peyton would be an upgrade). You could throw Jets in here, but Peyton was never going to go to that circus.


Those are very odd examples. Alex Smith had a good year(19th in yards, least INTs of any starter for a reasonable amount of time, one game/punt returner away from a SB birth). Flacco had a down year, but I am not sure cutting him down for Peyton ATM would be a good idea for his developement...and, again, one game away from the SB. One missed kick away from OT!
 
2012-03-10 10:32:36 PM  
What poise!!!
 
2012-03-10 10:34:01 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: I really liked Pennington


Best QB the fish have had since swing was cool.
 
2012-03-10 10:52:52 PM  

H31N0US: Manfred J. Hattan: I really liked Pennington

Best QB the fish have had since swing was cool.


Wasn't Marino after swing was cool?

/Was swing ever cool?
 
2012-03-10 10:56:28 PM  

Pratty: Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.


They had the 2nd worst 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL. That *has* to improve if you guys want to make it to the SB.
 
2012-03-10 11:11:36 PM  

redmid17: Pratty: Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.

They had the 2nd worst 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL. That *has* to improve if you guys want to make it to the SB.


Not my team, but yeah, that does need to improve. I'm just saying that it counts as "works", even if it needs to improve to be "SB caliber". I think a good wideout would help them more than a new QB.

/Then again, I also wanna see Smith get a ring, so.
 
2012-03-11 12:19:51 AM  

Pratty: redmid17: Pratty: Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.

They had the 2nd worst 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL. That *has* to improve if you guys want to make it to the SB.

Not my team, but yeah, that does need to improve. I'm just saying that it counts as "works", even if it needs to improve to be "SB caliber". I think a good wideout would help them more than a new QB.

/Then again, I also wanna see Smith get a ring, so.


Manning, Brees, and Brady have turned low rated or no name receivers into legitimate NFL players (or stars like Welker). A great QB overrides most of an offenses limitations. Alex Smith is not and will not be a great QB in the NFL.
 
2012-03-11 12:20:57 AM  
Dirty Mark Sanchez is a gourmet cook,
He's got a recipe for famous ankle soup
Wanted a pass, so she relaxed
Now the little groupie's getting Rex'd up in the back.
 
2012-03-11 12:56:55 AM  

redmid17: Pratty: redmid17: Pratty: Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.

They had the 2nd worst 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL. That *has* to improve if you guys want to make it to the SB.

Not my team, but yeah, that does need to improve. I'm just saying that it counts as "works", even if it needs to improve to be "SB caliber". I think a good wideout would help them more than a new QB.

/Then again, I also wanna see Smith get a ring, so.

Manning, Brees, and Brady have turned low rated or no name receivers into legitimate NFL players (or stars like Welker). A great QB overrides most of an offenses limitations. Alex Smith is not and will not be a great QB in the NFL.


And great wideouts have turned medicore QBs into pretty damn good ones. And QBs have failed when surrounded by poor talent, then thrived into stars when put into talent. What's your point?

/Nobody is stupid enough to say Smith is a Brees, Manning or Brady
//But if Alex Smith has the year he had last year, with that defense, they can win a ring
 
2012-03-11 03:01:47 AM  

Pratty: redmid17: Pratty: redmid17: Pratty: Bill Frist: iron_city_ap: Peyton to the Niners means Harbaugh has to install a new offense that might not necessarily match up with the personnel that got them to the NFCCG. Manning will want his offense wherever he ends up. If your current offense works, stay away.

Um... 49ers were 26th in total offensive yards. They didn't' exactly have some amazing offense.

They were also 11th in scoring. In addition, they were 8th in rushing yards and one game away from the Super Bowl. I think that qualifys as the original poster pointed out, "current offense works".

Perhaps most importantly, they rarely turned it over.

They had the 2nd worst 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL. That *has* to improve if you guys want to make it to the SB.

Not my team, but yeah, that does need to improve. I'm just saying that it counts as "works", even if it needs to improve to be "SB caliber". I think a good wideout would help them more than a new QB.

/Then again, I also wanna see Smith get a ring, so.

Manning, Brees, and Brady have turned low rated or no name receivers into legitimate NFL players (or stars like Welker). A great QB overrides most of an offenses limitations. Alex Smith is not and will not be a great QB in the NFL.

And great wideouts have turned medicore QBs into pretty damn good ones. And QBs have failed when surrounded by poor talent, then thrived into stars when put into talent. What's your point?

/Nobody is stupid enough to say Smith is a Brees, Manning or Brady
//But if Alex Smith has the year he had last year, with that defense, they can win a ring


Randy Moss is really the only receiver that made a QB look spectacular. Alex Smith is not good enough to win the niners a SB unless he can improve his accuracy on 3rd down.
 
2012-03-11 03:17:03 AM  
If there's one thing I've learned this offseason it's that Fark sports posters can get as retarded as the Poli tab.
 
2012-03-11 03:39:38 AM  

Pratty: Those are very odd examples. Alex Smith had a good year(19th in yards, least INTs of any starter for a reasonable amount of time, one game/punt returner away from a SB birth). Flacco had a down year, but I am not sure cutting him down for Peyton ATM would be a good idea for his developement...and, again, one game away from the SB. One missed kick away from OT!


Sorry but neither Smith or Flacco are top 5 or perhaps not even top 10 QBs. Can they win a super bowl with those QBs? Yes, its possible. It happens now and then. fark, even Rex Grossman made a Super Bowl once. But they'd have a better shot with Manning if he is anything close to his old self.
 
2012-03-11 03:41:44 AM  
What am I saying? Neither are top 10 at all, possibly not even top 16 (ie possibly not even above average).
 
2012-03-11 04:04:57 AM  
I think what you have to think about here is that NFL championship window can close pretty quickly and the way the NFL works, teams that do well often have a lot of luck and their playoff fates can wax and wane a lot. So yes, the 49ers and Ravens were both a win a way from the Super Bowl.... but what does that really tell us?

Jets were a win away twice in a row and now look like a joke. Bears were a win away last year, but didn't even have a winning season this year. Vikings went to overtime in championship game two years ago, been shiat since.

etc. etc. You'll see the same thing going back through the years.
 
2012-03-11 04:26:12 AM  

Le Bomb Suprize: I don't see how the Broncos can keep Tebow if they sign Manning. Most of Mannings skillset is not transferable (see Sorgi, Jim and Painter, Curtis) so Tebow sits another year and is either due a big contract while many questions remain about his ability or he walks.

I have to believe a deal with Jacksonville is in the works as Elway has never for a minute bought into the Tebow magic.


+++++++

They wouldn't. I think that is the point. Denver has the added incentive of Manning being pretty much the only QB the fan faithful would accept Tebus being sent away for. That way, regardless of how Manning works out, the Bronco's are free of the simmering uncertainty of whether Tebow is the man or not.

Taking Manning gives the Bronco head office a legitimate reason to end the Tebow experiment.
 
2012-03-11 10:15:20 AM  

libranoelrose: If there's one thing I've learned this offseason it's that Fark sports posters can get as retarded as the Poli tab.


Ah, don't be so hard on yourself.
 
2012-03-11 10:26:20 AM  

IAmRight: InferiousX: With the exception of maybe the Patriots, Saints and Giants Manning could walk into any team's office and they'd think long and hard about it.

Ummm Packers would ask why he wasted his time flying there.

/it's Seattle, Denver, Arizona, or Miami


You're actually correct about something. This must be what the Maya were talking about!!
 
2012-03-11 10:37:58 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: alwaysjaded: HaywoodJablonski: The Road to Houston gets even clearer. Miami sucks, Peyton. You know you want to play at Reliant

Why? We made the playoffs last year with a third string QB and our team is young as hell. I wouldn't put the future on a guy that might have 2 or 3 years left on a team not built for him. Schaub has next year to prove his worth then his contract is out. As long as he doesn't get hurt, we're golden.

Although I admit it would be interesting to see the guy that was the Texans nightmare for most of its time in the NFL throwing to AJ.

But Schaub WILL get hurt. It's his thing. It's what he does


So you replace him with a guy that already is hurt? Of all the teams supposedly in the running for Manning, Houston makes the least sense. Blows my mind that people paid to talk about sports actually had them as a front-runner on this thing (at least before Friday). It's down to 3, and Miami makes the most sense... though i'd love to see him go to Denver, just for the story.
 
2012-03-11 10:52:07 AM  

InferiousX: Why Would I Read the Article: InferiousX: I guess I have to keep posting this until everyone sees....

...Peyton is not going to the Bay. (new window)

That's right. A team has NEVER said something to the press and then gone and done the exact opposite. Never.

Yea but you'd have to figure out his reasoning for it. Why would he do a switcharoo in this instance? With the exception of maybe the Patriots, Saints and Giants Manning could walk into any team's office and they'd think long and hard about it.

Not to mention, it doesn't seem like Harbourough's style to drop Smith


Smith doesn't have a contract. The 49ers could just make an excuse that Smith wanted too much money for his level of play and so they decided to go with Manning instead. Both the 49ers and Manning would have to be idiots to not be considering this move. It would instantly make them the favorites to win the SB.
 
2012-03-11 01:02:22 PM  

mephisto6: HaywoodJablonski: alwaysjaded: HaywoodJablonski: The Road to Houston gets even clearer. Miami sucks, Peyton. You know you want to play at Reliant

Why? We made the playoffs last year with a third string QB and our team is young as hell. I wouldn't put the future on a guy that might have 2 or 3 years left on a team not built for him. Schaub has next year to prove his worth then his contract is out. As long as he doesn't get hurt, we're golden.

Although I admit it would be interesting to see the guy that was the Texans nightmare for most of its time in the NFL throwing to AJ.

But Schaub WILL get hurt. It's his thing. It's what he does

So you replace him with a guy that already is hurt? Of all the teams supposedly in the running for Manning, Houston makes the least sense. Blows my mind that people paid to talk about sports actually had them as a front-runner on this thing (at least before Friday). It's down to 3, and Miami makes the most sense... though i'd love to see him go to Denver, just for the story.


He can't win TODAY on any of those other 3 teams. It makes absolute sense for the Texans to look at him
 
2012-03-11 02:11:43 PM  
Why is it constantly repeated that SF was a "punt returner" away from the Super Bowl? Last time I checked, their offense in that game was incredibly bad (what was it, 1-15 on third downs?). If the returner catches the ball, there's still no guarantee SF scores and wins. He may have made a fatal mistake, but removing the mistake does not guarantee a change in the outcome.
 
2012-03-11 02:42:22 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: mephisto6: HaywoodJablonski: alwaysjaded: HaywoodJablonski: The Road to Houston gets even clearer. Miami sucks, Peyton. You know you want to play at Reliant

Why? We made the playoffs last year with a third string QB and our team is young as hell. I wouldn't put the future on a guy that might have 2 or 3 years left on a team not built for him. Schaub has next year to prove his worth then his contract is out. As long as he doesn't get hurt, we're golden.

Although I admit it would be interesting to see the guy that was the Texans nightmare for most of its time in the NFL throwing to AJ.

But Schaub WILL get hurt. It's his thing. It's what he does

So you replace him with a guy that already is hurt? Of all the teams supposedly in the running for Manning, Houston makes the least sense. Blows my mind that people paid to talk about sports actually had them as a front-runner on this thing (at least before Friday). It's down to 3, and Miami makes the most sense... though i'd love to see him go to Denver, just for the story.

He can't win TODAY on any of those other 3 teams. It makes absolute sense for the Texans to look at him


Except the Texans don't care if Manning can win today.

I'm no Houston fan, but seeing Schaub finally get some D support (along with a solid running game) was interesting. Yeah, Schaub had a brittle start there, but as stated up-thread, he went two seasons healthy and was off to a great start last year.
I just don't see the logic in saying, "Damn, we've got a good, young QB but he's a risk to make it through the season. Let's cut him and get Peyton Manning!" That's just nonsense.

Miami, Denver, and AZ all finished strong without a solid QB. Miami and Denver also have a solid D and OL... no amount of dangling Fitzgerald makes up for that sieve of a front line the Cards have. Peyton can win in either of those places and at least one of them will guarantee him money instead of an incentive-laden contract.

AZ won't and Houston shouldn't. It would be stupid for the Texans to do so.
 
2012-03-11 02:55:26 PM  

mephisto6: I just don't see the logic in saying, "Damn, we've got a good, young QB but he's a risk to make it through the season. Let's cut him and get Peyton Manning!" That's just nonsense.


I would not call Schaub a "young QB" Dude will be 31 when the new season starts. yes, he is younger than Peyton, but he isn't a young qb by any means.
 
2012-03-11 03:09:50 PM  

eazye1334: Why is it constantly repeated that SF was a "punt returner" away from the Super Bowl?


Because he handed the Giants 10 points off those turnovers. NY couldn't move the ball a farking inch the entire second half, but was gifted 10 points because the backup punt returner is a useless coonthammer.

Yeah, the offense was pretty failtastic as well, but they did put up 17 points, and the defense only gave up 10. Kyle Williams did the rest. Fark him forever.
 
2012-03-11 03:12:21 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: but they did put up 17 points


Is that supposed to be a lot?
 
2012-03-11 03:15:35 PM  

Bill Frist: Is that supposed to be a lot?


It is when you only give up 10.
 
2012-03-11 03:33:56 PM  
Pretty sure you actually gave up 20.
 
2012-03-11 03:50:05 PM  

eazye1334: Why is it constantly repeated that SF was a "punt returner" away from the Super Bowl? Last time I checked, their offense in that game was incredibly bad (what was it, 1-15 on third downs?). If the returner catches the ball, there's still no guarantee SF scores and wins. He may have made a fatal mistake, but removing the mistake does not guarantee a change in the outcome.


The punt returner gave up a TD, essentially, in regulation. Ergo, if he had not done that, unless the Giants would have gotten another TD in their place, then the game would have ended in regulation and the Niners would not have needed to score to win in the first place.
 
Displayed 50 of 116 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report