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(Slate)   The question to ask Derrick Bell is not why did you write that whites would sell blacks to aliens. But what do space aliens need African-Americans for? What did Derrick Bell know about these aliens and when did he know it?   (slate.com ) divider line
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2012-03-09 01:35:57 PM  

azIndependent: You know, I have no problem with this story. It's not even that racist. (Yeah, I read it)

I mean, historically we've sold out so many people, why wouldn't we do it again?


Do you mean as a human race, or as a race race? I have never sold, or sold out anyone... guess there is still time if the aliens are going to pay in gum....
 
2012-03-09 01:37:40 PM  

DID SOMEONE SAY "ALIENS"?



http://www.freeben10.net/wallpapers/ben10_wp_C_1280.jpg
 
2012-03-09 01:37:59 PM  

mccallcl: ole prophet: SpinStopper: Rather than the blacks, I think we should sell all the MEN to space aliens. Well, except me. That way we could finally test that whole "I wouldn't sleep with you even if you were the LAST MAN ON EARTH!" thing ;)

Your offspring would be sleeping with one another. I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through.

Removing all men from the planet would plunge us into a second dark age. Billions would die of famine and disease within a year. It's unlikely that any of his babies would survive childbirth in a world with no electricity or sanitation.



The loss of males farts would solve global warming though,
 
2012-03-09 01:38:47 PM  

Maus III: Doc Daneeka: Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?

Huh?

Scarlett Johansson is American and born in New York City to a Danish father and an American Jewish mother. Why on earth would she be consider "African-American"?

Perhaps you were thinking of Charlize Theron?

The Word "African American" means, "having or showing arrogant superiority to and disdain of those one views as unworthy." In other words, those who do not believe in God are arrogant about such a view that the views of others that state otherwise are looked down upon.

Many people say that there is no God, or they believe in the "seeing is believing" mentality. Or, the "out of sight, out of mind" mentality. However, such views are dangerous. In fact, let's take a look at how it can be proven that God does indeed exists and that he as a personal name just as you and I do.

Think: The same ones that say that God does not exist because they have not seen him are the same ones that believe in Jesus. And last time I remember, none of us have seen Jesus. Yet, many people believe in Christ more than they do His Heavenly Father Jehovah. Where is the logic in that one? Something to think about.

Now, let's get back on track here in reference to God. Many people say, "I believe in only what I can see, and I have never seen God."

Isn't it true that we live in a society that emphasizes material possessions. But you are a person who likes to be realistic, aren't you?' There some things that we cannot see with our eyes but that we believe exist because there are sound reasons to do so? What about the air we breathe? We may feel it when there is a breeze. We can tell that it fills our lungs, even though we do not see it. Because we see the effects, ...


no. but thanks for playing.
 
2012-03-09 01:40:26 PM  

cig-mkr: Flaw in the logic, why would they pay white people for black slaves when they could go to Africa and pick them up for free? Even aliens have to live on a budget.


Because USA blacks are American made, duh.
 
2012-03-09 01:41:08 PM  

Maus III:

The Word "African American" means, "having or showing arrogant superiority to and disdain of those one views as unworthy." In other words, those who do not believe in God are arrogant about such a view that the views of others that state otherwise are looked down upon.

Many people say that there is no God, or they believe in the "seeing is believing" mentality. Or, the "out of sight, out of mind" mentality. However, such views are dangerous. In fact, let's take a look at how it can be proven that God does indeed exists and that he as a personal name just as you and I do.

Think: The same ones that say that God does not exist because they have not seen him are the same ones that believe in Jesus. And last time I remember, none of us have seen Jesus. Yet, many people believe in Christ more than they do His Heavenly Father Jehovah. Where is the logic in that one? Something to think about.

Now, let's get back on track here in reference to God. Many people say, "I believe in only what I can see, and I have never seen God."

Isn't it true that we live in a society that emphasizes material possessions. But you are a person who likes to be realistic, aren't you?' There some things that we cannot see with our eyes but that we believe exist because there are sound reasons to do so? What about the air we breathe? We may feel it when there is a breeze. We can tell that it fills our lungs, even though we do not see it. Because we see the effects, ...


i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-09 01:41:28 PM  
This sounds like a bad version of Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles
 
2012-03-09 01:41:49 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Deep down, most black people know that they need white people around to live in the kind of country they want to live in. They know that if all whites vanished in a puff of smoke one day, civilization would revert to African levels (or worse) in a jiffy. Not to mention they wouldn't be able to get decent levels of customer service anymore.


The only thing we need your white ass for is animal expeditions. We're not stupid enough to swim around holding a camera with a shark the size of a school bus to find out when it mates.

But I think society will survive without that bit of inforamation.

/we're good


Uh, no, no you're not "good". There is a wild disparity between blacks and whites in education, especially health services, which blacks disproportionally consume and whites disproportionally produce. When whites vanish, their unfair control of resources goes away, but we also provide valuable white-people services like performing surgery and being polite over the phone.

Look at it this way: what happens when white people flee a neighborhood?
 
2012-03-09 01:42:12 PM  

topcon: What kind of super-cool space technology would I get in return?


Beta max.
 
2012-03-09 01:42:20 PM  
 
2012-03-09 01:44:52 PM  
Excuse me.
Excuse me!
What does Derrick Bell need with an alien?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-03-09 01:45:34 PM  

SilentStrider: I really don't know what the fuss over a career .276 hitter is all about.


Wasn't he the NL MVP one year? Pay him a little respect
 
2012-03-09 01:46:06 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Unemployment is down.



yeah about that.... (new window)
 
2012-03-09 01:48:38 PM  

Maus III: The Word "African American" means, "having or showing arrogant superiority to and disdain of those one views as unworthy." In other words, those who do not believe in God are arrogant about such a view that the views of others that state otherwise are looked down upon.


What makes this really crazy is that it gets crazier after that.

/you have been educated stupid.
 
2012-03-09 01:49:22 PM  
The book 'coventry' mentioned 4000 posts ago sounds wunderbar. Thx
 
2012-03-09 01:49:23 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?

I had a teacher in high school (Rabbi Sanders, paler than the day is long) from Johannesburg. When I called him an "African American" in a conversation with my English teacher (a "woman of color") she didn't bat an eye. Maybe cracked a smile. There are plenty of white African Americans, which, to me, is the single largest reason the identifier is silly.

Apparently, many Americans feel that calling them "African-American" (when their only connection to Africa is distant ancestry) is not cool. After all, I'm not a "Russo-German-Hungarian-Polish-Spanish-American" (or would it just be "European-American"), am I?

// also, is ScarJo even "American"?


I had a very similar experience with a colleague who is a third-generation Mong Chinese from Madagascar. Most people seem to have a hard time understanding that he is, in fact, African.
 
2012-03-09 01:49:50 PM  

Shirley Ujest: topcon: What kind of super-cool space technology would I get in return?

Beta max.



Advanced writing tools and new pop stars?

i4.fc-img.com
 
2012-03-09 01:50:05 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dr Dreidel: Apparently, many Americans feel that calling them "African-American" (when their only connection to Africa is distant ancestry) is not cool.

[Citation Needed]

Just curious. How many times per day are you forced to say "African-American"?


"Forced"? None. I usually say "black", unless I know someone (like my friend Bianca) who prefers "[man/woman] of color".

Does the hyphenated American thing not bother you? Congrats, you're one of many implied by my OP that "feel that calling them 'African-American' (when their only connection to Africa is distant ancestry)" is perfectly fine.

Of course, I tend not to get bogged down in racial classifications in everyday speech. In high school, when I was still learning about the sociology of race, from one of the first people of color I had a real in-depth relationship with (i.e. someone I knew personally that I looked up to as a mentor), it came up more than once.

I also got good lessons on not using "African American" as a substitute for "black" in college when I met several black Canadians (and some honest to goodness Africans).

// did I mistakenly bunch your panties?
 
2012-03-09 01:51:24 PM  

mccallcl: DROxINxTHExWIND: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Deep down, most black people know that they need white people around to live in the kind of country they want to live in. They know that if all whites vanished in a puff of smoke one day, civilization would revert to African levels (or worse) in a jiffy. Not to mention they wouldn't be able to get decent levels of customer service anymore.


The only thing we need your white ass for is animal expeditions. We're not stupid enough to swim around holding a camera with a shark the size of a school bus to find out when it mates.

But I think society will survive without that bit of inforamation.

/we're good

Uh, no, no you're not "good". There is a wild disparity between blacks and whites in education, especially health services, which blacks disproportionally consume and whites disproportionally produce. When whites vanish, their unfair control of resources goes away, but we also provide valuable white-people services like performing surgery and being polite over the phone.

Look at it this way: what happens when white people flee a neighborhood?



Yeah, but now e'll have access to all of that sweet, sweet white people money that they used to pay for their education so that more blacks can learn to become surgeons or hedge fund managers.

Oh, and my doctor is a native of India. We still have Asians to help with all of those white-people services.

/Kthxbye
//Don't let the door hit you on the way out
 
2012-03-09 01:53:56 PM  
I used to have a roommate named Derrick Bell - he stole my skateboard. F*ck you, Derrick.
 
2012-03-09 01:55:34 PM  
We'll just have Ben Sisko take over and riot?

images1.wikia.nocookie.net

Bell Riots (new window)

/with all the other trek references in the thread, am I really the first to connect these?
 
2012-03-09 01:58:04 PM  

leevis: Elandriel: They are just desperate to make this into a Thing. It's not going to be.

Imagine that, Obama idolized a racist nutbag and the media are going to do their best to ignore it.


LUL Wat ?

Not seeing it , Have only seen three criticisms of Bell that right wing trots out.

1 ) In studies of minorities there is very little historic data or even contemporary data, so in some instances the substitution of personal recollection, diaries and other information such as newspapers or editorials so one can infer opinion or information about the subject .

2 ) At Harvard , Bell was critical of the hiring practices of the University that he felt discriminated against minority women That the criteria dismissed the pursuits of the minorities that gained their degrees , say organizing legal clinics, economic development in their community, etc.

3 ) Bell wrote a book of fiction where white people have a moral dilemma of selling people for gain .


Saying Bell was a racist becase of that book would be like calling Jonathan Swift a Cannibal
 
2012-03-09 01:59:09 PM  
Alright' im on my cell and cant be arsed to wade thru all the sci fi ish titles about evul papists and aliens. Help.
 
2012-03-09 02:00:26 PM  

Dr Dreidel: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dr Dreidel: Apparently, many Americans feel that calling them "African-American" (when their only connection to Africa is distant ancestry) is not cool.

[Citation Needed]

Just curious. How many times per day are you forced to say "African-American"?

"Forced"? None. I usually say "black", unless I know someone (like my friend Bianca) who prefers "[man/woman] of color".

Does the hyphenated American thing not bother you? Congrats, you're one of many implied by my OP that "feel that calling them 'African-American' (when their only connection to Africa is distant ancestry)" is perfectly fine.

Of course, I tend not to get bogged down in racial classifications in everyday speech. In high school, when I was still learning about the sociology of race, from one of the first people of color I had a real in-depth relationship with (i.e. someone I knew personally that I looked up to as a mentor), it came up more than once.

I also got good lessons on not using "African American" as a substitute for "black" in college when I met several black Canadians (and some honest to goodness Africans).

// did I mistakenly bunch your panties?



Are we allowed to ask questions and discuss things on this message board or is it assumed that every comment made in anger? I'm fine, but thinks for asking. It stands to reason that you would not call a Canadian an African-American. I'm not sure why you all feel the need to keep repeating that. The issue isn't with the term African-American, its with the dolts who go around assuming that a black guy in American HAS to be FROM America. Its probably the same folks who call every Hispanic person a "Mexican". You don't go around calling every blonde person you meet a Swedish-American or every white person with curly brown hair a Jew. If you follow the same rules of decorum for everyone it may help you to get your panties unwadded about the term "African-American".
 
2012-03-09 02:00:37 PM  
Why is this news?.
 
2012-03-09 02:01:30 PM  
Look, I'm as in favor of the global extermination of all white people as Dr. Bell. They key though is you have to sell it to the white liberals first.
 
2012-03-09 02:05:06 PM  
 
2012-03-09 02:05:30 PM  

sharkbeagle: Look, I'm as in favor of the global extermination of all white people as Dr. Bell. They key though is you have to sell it to the white liberals first.



I think that's already been done.
 
2012-03-09 02:05:52 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Deep down, most black people know that they need white people around to live in the kind of country they want to live in. They know that if all whites vanished in a puff of smoke one day, civilization would revert to African levels (or worse) in a jiffy. Not to mention they wouldn't be able to get decent levels of customer service anymore.


The only thing we need your white ass for is animal expeditions. We're not stupid enough to swim around holding a camera with a shark the size of a school bus to find out when it mates.

But I think society will survive without that bit of inforamation.

/we're good


What's the deal with all those successful majority-black and black-run countries, anyway? You never hear about them in the news.
 
2012-03-09 02:06:49 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Doc Daneeka: This is what the death throes of a major political party looks like.

It's a safe bet (and getting safer each day) that Obama will win re-election, but I don't see how it follows that the Republican Party is finished. It's not like the Democratic Party ceased to exist, or even underwent major reform, after Mondale's brutal 1984 loss.


I think the mainstream Republican party of 2016 will look different than the party of today. Even if they win, I think it will look different. Romney is not the far-right extremist people thought would get the nom, and barring a miracle he's the one who will run against Obama.

They can't keep pandering to the radical fringe, not and save face. I mean, really, they're going to pander to radicals, and paint the Democrats as radicals? Yeah, awesome strategy. Hey, that black guy in office read the same community-organizer Jew book the Tea Partiers read! This is an outrage! Lefties shouldn't be allowed to be radicals, only Real Americans get to be radicals!
 
2012-03-09 02:10:44 PM  

topcon: DROxINxTHExWIND: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Deep down, most black people know that they need white people around to live in the kind of country they want to live in. They know that if all whites vanished in a puff of smoke one day, civilization would revert to African levels (or worse) in a jiffy. Not to mention they wouldn't be able to get decent levels of customer service anymore.


The only thing we need your white ass for is animal expeditions. We're not stupid enough to swim around holding a camera with a shark the size of a school bus to find out when it mates.

But I think society will survive without that bit of inforamation.

/we're good

What's the deal with all those successful majority-black and black-run countries, anyway? You never hear about them in the news.



I do. Normally its when a majority white country is justifying their rape of the black country's resources.
 
2012-03-09 02:15:12 PM  
The easiest way to get around this issue is by forcing everyone to have sex with people who are not the same race as they are.

Preferably a lot, too.
 
2012-03-09 02:15:36 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: topcon: DROxINxTHExWIND: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Deep down, most black people know that they need white people around to live in the kind of country they want to live in. They know that if all whites vanished in a puff of smoke one day, civilization would revert to African levels (or worse) in a jiffy. Not to mention they wouldn't be able to get decent levels of customer service anymore.


The only thing we need your white ass for is animal expeditions. We're not stupid enough to swim around holding a camera with a shark the size of a school bus to find out when it mates.

But I think society will survive without that bit of inforamation.

/we're good

What's the deal with all those successful majority-black and black-run countries, anyway? You never hear about them in the news.


I do. Normally its when a majority white country is justifying their rape of the black country's resources.


Is it Djibouti? It's Djibouti, isn't it? It has French stank all over it.
 
2012-03-09 02:17:10 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dr Dreidel: // did I mistakenly bunch your panties?


Are we allowed to ask questions and discuss things on this message board or is it assumed that every comment made in anger?
I'm fine, but thinks for asking. It stands to reason that you would not call a Canadian an African-American. I'm not sure why you all feel the need to keep repeating that. The issue isn't with the term African-American, its with the dolts who go around assuming that a black guy in American HAS to be FROM America. Its probably the same folks who call every Hispanic person a "Mexican". You don't go around calling every blonde person you meet a Swedish-American or every white person with curly brown hair a Jew. If you follow the same rules of decorum for everyone it may help you to get your panties unwadded about the term "African-American".


Meh. I'm not bunched about it. I just think that, of the three terms I'm most familiar with (black, African American, person of color), the only one that I'm personally aware of the ill-suitedness of the term is African American.

If that's the term you prefer, as we say, b'hatzlacha raba - best of luck.

// neither of us has taken offense, methinks
// pleasant travels, my brother
 
2012-03-09 02:17:34 PM  

Molavian: The easiest way to get around this issue is by forcing everyone to have sex with people who are not the same race as they are.

Preferably a lot, too.


As soon as Muhammed Ali says it's okay.

Link (new window)
 
2012-03-09 02:18:32 PM  

Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?


Indeed. I used to work with a white man from South Africa and a black man from Ghana. Both were naturalized American citizens. Both could well claim the identity, "African American" but since neither had the experience of growing up black in the US, neither were accepted by the AA community, though the black man a bit more, until they heard his accent.

The identity puzzles.
 
2012-03-09 02:20:12 PM  

SilentStrider: I really don't know what the fuss over a career .276 hitter is all about.


He gets on base!

cdn.theatlanticwire.com

/Not sure if he really got on base
 
2012-03-09 02:21:46 PM  

DavidVincent: Maybe the aliens have been watching all of our Hollywood movies.

Their image of African-Americans is of a hard working, intelligent and supremely ethical people that often times teach whites valuable life lessons. They figure that if most of our brainiest scientists and presidents are African American, that's who they want.


Ahhh, yes, but then the "Magic Negro" is but a subset of the whole demographic. The Aliens would be sore displeased were they to purchase a collection of ordinary negroes, expecting the wisdom and long-suffering fortitude of the magic variety.
 
2012-03-09 02:25:50 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: DavidVincent: Maybe the aliens have been watching all of our Hollywood movies.

Their image of African-Americans is of a hard working, intelligent and supremely ethical people that often times teach whites valuable life lessons. They figure that if most of our brainiest scientists and presidents are African American, that's who they want.

Ahhh, yes, but then the "Magic Negro" is but a subset of the whole demographic. The Aliens would be sore displeased were they to purchase a collection of ordinary negroes, expecting the wisdom and long-suffering fortitude of the magic variety.


Perhaps they would be better collecting inscrutable orientals, spiritual wise indians or stoic and nature attuned native americans. All of them have been of incalculable value to Might Whitey and have been less problematic. Well, except for the opium wars, the Raj, and the extirpation of the injun.
 
2012-03-09 02:25:58 PM  
bigmentaldisease.com

Stringer Bell is an A-hole
 
2012-03-09 02:26:49 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?

Indeed. I used to work with a white man from South Africa and a black man from Ghana. Both were naturalized American citizens. Both could well claim the identity, "African American" but since neither had the experience of growing up black in the US, neither were accepted by the AA community, though the black man a bit more, until they heard his accent.

The identity puzzles.



Oh YEAH! I remember that shiat. Case #AFR316762007. You're damn right I voted 'no' when I was asked if they were accepted into our community. Their accents were too thick and neither one of them knew an entire Notorious B.I.G. song. I could not in good faith allow them to go forward.
 
2012-03-09 02:27:13 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Ahhh, yes, but then the "Magic Negro" is but a subset of the whole demographic. The Aliens would be sore displeased were they to purchase a collection of ordinary negroes, expecting the wisdom and long-suffering fortitude of the magic variety.


What a magic negro may look like:
angiealbright.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-03-09 02:29:49 PM  

Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?


Probably because Scarlett Johansson was born in New York.
 
2012-03-09 02:30:10 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Dwangerous: I'm really tired of the term African American, why is it that they are referred to as such when very few other nationalities or ethnicities are (outside of the occasional Mexican-American reference)? And how come Scarlett Johanson and other white "African Americans" are never referred to as such?

Indeed. I used to work with a white man from South Africa and a black man from Ghana. Both were naturalized American citizens. Both could well claim the identity, "African American" but since neither had the experience of growing up black in the US, neither were accepted by the AA community, though the black man a bit more, until they heard his accent.

The identity puzzles.


Oh YEAH! I remember that shiat. Case #AFR316762007. You're damn right I voted 'no' when I was asked if they were accepted into our community. Their accents were too thick and neither one of them knew an entire Notorious B.I.G. song. I could not in good faith allow them to go forward.


Dude, he was talking about Black Union Local #331. A few of those guys over there, you know...very isolationist.
 
2012-03-09 02:30:42 PM  

Fano: [cdn.hiphopdx.com image 400x400]

Those aliens better watch their asses or they will get overrun


cdn.hiphopdx.com

Is that Nibiru?
 
2012-03-09 02:32:41 PM  
Figures this thread would be flypaper for stormfart but I'd encourage everyone else to look up the massive fail of the Hannity debut of this story. The breitbartians look like kids trying to sell you their old psp then Malkin does her best Linda Blair impersonation while Juan tries to stay awake and Hannity just wants to get through the non-story.

It's pretty funny.
 
2012-03-09 02:36:44 PM  

kbronsito: AdolfOliverPanties: palladiate: (I guess every country on the planet is guilty at one point or another of farking over other people for national interests... although I've always found the Israel-apartheid South Africa example particularly sad and disappointing considering the Jewish holocaust experience)


I've always thought the internment of Americans of asian descent to be the saddest example. They could only take two suitcases each; man, woman, and child. everything left behind was sold off or scrapped. Their generation-old family homesteads were sold to their neighbors (who had a landrush getting into the homes to take anything they wanted) and the farms sold for pennies on the dollar, the proceeds going to pay the people selling them. A disgraceful scene of patriotism. This is the America we live in today, with Foreclosures being the landrush. Rememmber: Your neighbor will use your government to kill you for access to your stuff.
 
2012-03-09 02:37:52 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Figures this thread would be flypaper for stormfart but I'd encourage everyone else to look up the massive fail of the Hannity debut of this story. The breitbartians look like kids trying to sell you their old psp then Malkin does her best Linda Blair impersonation while Juan tries to stay awake and Hannity just wants to get through the non-story.

It's pretty funny.


I'm not sure who is more unlikable in the I'll-say-anything-and-act-spastic-for-money-even-if-I-know-it's-untrue department, Michelle Malkin or Mann Coulter. I mean, you can say the same thing for all pundits left and right, and I hate them all, but they really are a couple of the worst.

I don't think they believe 75 percent of what they say, but it's sensational, so that's all that matters.

There's your American political discourse.
 
2012-03-09 02:37:56 PM  
The real problem with this story is in having the Space Traders doing business with white America.

They should have gone to Africa. No one is more willing to sell blacks into slavery than another African. They live for that shiat.
 
2012-03-09 02:38:19 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: In case you want to see the adaptation from the 90s (new window)

Pretty good and more fun to watch than to read.


And it all leads back to a Clinton. How deep does this rabbit hole go?
 
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