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(WRCB)   Man, late for court on a meth possession charge, racks up $2,000 worth of speeding tickets in just one hour. Amateur   (wrcbtv.com) divider line 34
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2012-03-09 10:26:42 AM
So meth makes you drive fast, thanks for the tip
 
2012-03-09 10:31:22 AM
Crank III?
 
2012-03-09 10:35:51 AM
Wonder what the first one was for? Probably like 11 over. If they have just let him go on that one, there wouldn't have been any others.

Man had somewhere to be. Don't judge.
 
2012-03-09 10:37:47 AM
He's just trying to get help getting off meth without the expense of fansy rehab. -Unsupervised ref.
 
2012-03-09 10:38:13 AM
first at 105 mph, then at 98 mph and finally at 92 mph.

Well they should at least give him credit for slowing down
 
2012-03-09 10:38:17 AM
Are they filming Cannonball Run 3?

/also going to Hood River for beers @ Double Mtn today so this is relevant to my interests
 
2012-03-09 10:38:33 AM

Bobo_Spiewack: Wonder what the first one was for? Probably like 11 over. If they have just let him go on that one, there wouldn't have been any others.


95 mph speed limit? Man I wish I lived in Oregon
 
2012-03-09 10:41:56 AM
I am happy that, by the third (fourth?) radar clocking, Valenzuela's speed was down to sixty-five MPH. Evidently, he finally got himself under control. One of the ugly things about serious methamphetamine abuse is that, while it is creating that energetic, euphoric feeling, it is also changing the way the brain reacts to stimuli, creating and exacerbating serious "tics." People who would ordinarily be in control of their thoughts and actions have racing, intrusive thoughts, and a decreased ability (and willingness) to control their impulsive behaviors. Those who already have difficulty with impulsive behaviors or repetitive habits/compulsions, often have those traits incredibly magnified.
 
2012-03-09 10:50:06 AM
That's what, 15 over in Virginia?

//farking hate that state.
 
2012-03-09 11:03:35 AM

Bobo_Spiewack: Wonder what the first one was for? Probably like 11 over. If they have just let him go on that one, there wouldn't have been any others.

Man had somewhere to be. Don't judge.


"...first at 105 mph..."

Where in Oregon is the speed limit 94mph?
 
2012-03-09 11:05:22 AM
Go, Speed Racer, GO-O-O-O-O!!
 
2012-03-09 11:32:27 AM
They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.
 
2012-03-09 11:34:51 AM
Why u so speechless? - Lady GaGa
 
2012-03-09 11:43:18 AM

davidab: They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.


So long as he doesn't combine them, if he just accepts the default plea on the first ticket it'd likely be at least 1 tier down. So instead of 102 (100+ and 37 mph over) it would be accepting a 20-25 over. In many cities, this is built into the ticket to get a payoff as enticement for not going to court. (Don't know about Oregon localities)

If the other two are then tossed out for harassment, he's fine.

\I do find it odd you even could run into 3 cops within an hour on any stretch off road... that seems HIGHLY unlikely unless they're either watching you or that stretch of road in particular.
 
2012-03-09 11:48:07 AM
Hell one of my former co workers managed to rack up 4k in fines in one stop, of course he was doing fourty over, had an open beer, and decided to road rage out and ran a unmarked cop car off the road.

/Btw he did all this in a active construction zone.
 
2012-03-09 11:57:23 AM

Quantumbunny: davidab: They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.

So long as he doesn't combine them, if he just accepts the default plea on the first ticket it'd likely be at least 1 tier down. So instead of 102 (100+ and 37 mph over) it would be accepting a 20-25 over. In many cities, this is built into the ticket to get a payoff as enticement for not going to court. (Don't know about Oregon localities)

If the other two are then tossed out for harassment, he's fine.

\I do find it odd you even could run into 3 cops within an hour on any stretch off road... that seems HIGHLY unlikely unless they're either watching you or that stretch of road in particular.


You've never driven in the Gorge then - the OSP is anal about that road. I've driven from Portland to Hood River before and counted at least 7 radar cops either with the guns out or with people pulled over in a 45m span. It's a scenic area and tons of day trippers are on it at any one time.
 
2012-03-09 12:48:53 PM
Seriously, an article about a meth-head speeding, and you went with THAT headline?
 
2012-03-09 01:10:29 PM

A Leaf in Fall: Seriously, an article about a meth-head speeding, and you went with THAT headline?


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2012-03-09 01:13:43 PM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf:

"...first at 105 mph..."

Where in Oregon is the speed limit 94mph?


I am late for a court appearance. You can't expect me to *read* articles.
 
2012-03-09 01:28:45 PM
www.karolinagames.com
 
2012-03-09 01:53:29 PM

trappedspirit: first at 105 mph, then at 98 mph and finally at 92 mph.

Well they should at least give him credit for slowing down


OY. Had he only gone 4 over the entire time, that time spent waiting for the cop to do his process would have negated the need to do any math in his head to make up the difference. Hold up....meth...METH, not math going through his head. Well he's late anyway.
 
2012-03-09 01:55:00 PM
Police say the last ticket appeared to have an effect. Down the road a bit, a trooper set up watch and clocked him at the limit, 65 mph.

Yeah, three tickets and the police were quoted with that? Hell, I'd go after them for police harassment... They were obviously following the guy as he went to the court.
 
2012-03-09 02:22:28 PM
LesserEvil's reference to an addiction to speed would have made a much better headline.
 
2012-03-09 02:32:27 PM

JaaVaa: Police say the last ticket appeared to have an effect. Down the road a bit, a trooper set up watch and clocked him at the limit, 65 mph.

Yeah, three tickets and the police were quoted with that? Hell, I'd go after them for police harassment... They were obviously following the guy as he went to the court.


I'm usually pretty anti-cop, but I don't see what the problem with what they did here is.

He was breaking the law, right? I mean, the speeds he was going are actually dangerous too, tepending on traffic and the roads. Why shouldn't they follow along and see if he does it again?
 
2012-03-09 03:36:51 PM
Meth doesn't make u speed. Being a criminal makes u speed.

If the meth was legal this wouldn't have happened.
I can ASSURE you!!
 
2012-03-09 04:33:55 PM
www.mypnw.us
 
2012-03-09 04:35:47 PM

trappedspirit: first at 105 mph, then at 98 mph and finally at 92 mph.

Well they should at least give him credit for slowing down


105 is almost twice the state speed limit...
 
2012-03-09 04:37:24 PM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Bobo_Spiewack: Wonder what the first one was for? Probably like 11 over. If they have just let him go on that one, there wouldn't have been any others.

Man had somewhere to be. Don't judge.

"...first at 105 mph..."

Where in Oregon is the speed limit 94mph?


Nowhere. The open-desert, off-road limit is the highest speed limit in the state. 85 MPH in the high desert on unpaved road with no posted speed. Good luck hitting that, though.
 
2012-03-09 04:53:27 PM

davidab: They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.


How is it harassment? Was he not speeding the second and third times he was pulled over? Is there a law that states once you get a ticket for speeding you're allowed to speed for a certain amount of time before getting pulled over again?
 
2012-03-09 08:52:32 PM

Pribar: Hell one of my former co workers managed to rack up 4k in fines in one stop, of course he was doing fourty over, had an open beer, and decided to road rage out and ran a unmarked cop car off the road.

/Btw he did all this in a active construction zone.


I had to share this with the rest of the house, and we agreed that next time, he should go for maximum points by dangling an obnoxious toddler out the window.
 
2012-03-10 12:05:15 AM
I drive in the Gorge all the time. I'd guess the typical speed for passenger cars is around 80-85 MPH, at least between Troutdale and Hood River. It just seems easy to go fast out there. As far as the State Police keeping a sharp eye on speed on that road, I have no idea what other people are talking about. The presence out there is pretty much zilch.

Just watch out for trucks, and in the winter, ice. In fact, I'd avoid the road altogether if it's icy. Sometimes they shut the whole damn thing down for days when freezing rain hits.
 
2012-03-10 03:11:26 AM

farkityfarker: davidab: They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.

How is it harassment? Was he not speeding the second and third times he was pulled over? Is there a law that states once you get a ticket for speeding you're allowed to speed for a certain amount of time before getting pulled over again?


Nothing of the sort. However there are laws against profiling, and it would not be hard for a good lawyer to build a case around that defense.

Pick something like the defendant's race, income, the condition of the car, how about the meth tidbit. then establish that at least two of the officers were in communication about the defendant.

Draw a conclusion like the officers were targeting the defendant because of the defendant's race, income, the condition of the car, or the meth habit. All of a sudden you have officers conspiring against this poor victim, and their testimony becomes worthless.

Now the officers have to provide evidence they didn't make the speeding thing up, like show video of the radar unit they used to clock the defendant and video of the traffic stop. Depending on the county they will likely have to have this video submitted into evidence prior to the hearing or have the case dismissed.

Depending on the lawyer and the judge, 2 or even 3 of the speeding tickets should be dismissed.

Im not saying its right, but that is how the system usually works.
 
2012-03-10 04:36:10 AM

Aloy: Pribar: Hell one of my former co workers managed to rack up 4k in fines in one stop, of course he was doing fourty over, had an open beer, and decided to road rage out and ran a unmarked cop car off the road.

/Btw he did all this in a active construction zone.

I had to share this with the rest of the house, and we agreed that next time, he should go for maximum points by dangling an obnoxious toddler out the window.



If they ever let him out of jail I will pass that along )
 
2012-03-10 11:18:12 AM

davidab: farkityfarker: davidab: They were obviously looking for him; a good lawyer could probably get the second and third tickets dismissed for police harassment. Too bad the first one was over 100 mph, because that is the one he needs to get dismissed/reduced.

How is it harassment? Was he not speeding the second and third times he was pulled over? Is there a law that states once you get a ticket for speeding you're allowed to speed for a certain amount of time before getting pulled over again?

Nothing of the sort. However there are laws against profiling, and it would not be hard for a good lawyer to build a case around that defense.

Pick something like the defendant's race, income, the condition of the car, how about the meth tidbit. then establish that at least two of the officers were in communication about the defendant.

Draw a conclusion like the officers were targeting the defendant because of the defendant's race, income, the condition of the car, or the meth habit. All of a sudden you have officers conspiring against this poor victim, and their testimony becomes worthless.

Now the officers have to provide evidence they didn't make the speeding thing up, like show video of the radar unit they used to clock the defendant and video of the traffic stop. Depending on the county they will likely have to have this video submitted into evidence prior to the hearing or have the case dismissed.

Depending on the lawyer and the judge, 2 or even 3 of the speeding tickets should be dismissed.

Im not saying its right, but that is how the system usually works.


Seriously? It's not hard to believe a guy might go 100 mph on that road, and do it repeatedly. First of all, it's not an unheard of speed on I84 on that particular stretch. Like I said above, the average passenger car probably goes 80-85 mph out there. Second, there's usually no cops out there, so after the first ticket, he may have assumed his luck could only improve. After the second ticket he was probably thinking "no way in HELL can I get three tickets in one day," especially since by that point he was probably down by Troutdale where people go that fast anyway.

Point is you don't need a conspiracy to explain it. Guy speeds on I84 repeatedly, gets tickets repeatedly. Must have been one of those days where the cops actually bother to come out.
 
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