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(Yahoo)   Romney's spokesman says it would take "some sort of act of God" for any of Romney's opponents to win GOP nomination, sort of like what it took in the 1970s for black folks to finally be allowed to join Mitt's church   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 104
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2012-03-08 02:36:10 PM
Well-played, subby!
 
2012-03-08 02:55:33 PM
Mormon god or American god? And what happens if it's Muslim god, does that make it not count?
 
2012-03-08 02:55:57 PM
I thought Rick Santorum was God's candidate?
 
2012-03-08 02:57:44 PM
@ Subby - Oh no he di'int!!
 
2012-03-08 02:59:26 PM

James!: And what happens if it's Muslim god, does that make it not count?


Of course it counts--how else can you explain Obama winning last time?
 
2012-03-08 02:59:32 PM
Do you really want to bring up religion when speaking about Romney's electoral chances? He's done a pretty good job about covering up the fact that he's a merman.
 
2012-03-08 03:00:04 PM
Well, that just had to be an awkward day in Mormon Heaven.
 
2012-03-08 03:00:52 PM
truthquake.com

"It's going to take an act of God? I KNOW THAT GUY! We are gonna win, we are gonna win, we are gonna win."
 
2012-03-08 03:01:05 PM
Get Jim Cantor to stump for Romney and see what happens
 
2012-03-08 03:02:28 PM

James!: Mormon god or American god? And what happens if it's Muslim god, does that make it not count?


Mormons believe (like Catholics) that all people who worship a god are really worshiping the right god- they are just doing it all wrong. They are here to help. Just imagine a government missionary coming to your door.
 
2012-03-08 03:02:32 PM
Gott Mitt Uns.
 
2012-03-08 03:04:04 PM

born_yesterday: Well, that just had to be an awkward day in Mormon Heaven.



Meh, they have a line around the cloud of dead Jewish people who are standing at the help desk trying to figure out what the fark they're doing there. Mormon Heaven is used to awkward days.
 
2012-03-08 03:04:05 PM
At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby. Also curious who Romney will pick for a VP. Seems like he would have to go for a right wing lunatic to satisfy the base but that might further freak out moderates.
 
2012-03-08 03:06:12 PM
Of course Romney will eventually win the nomination. An of course, he's going to lose to Obama. But let's let Romney, Santorum, and Newt keep fighting. It's fun to watch.
 
2012-03-08 03:06:46 PM
I really don't like Romney and strongly support Obama but that headline does seem like a pretty unnecessary dig at him. He's not exactly running on being a Mormon. If the Jeremiah Wright thing is dumb then so is even more dumb.

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2012-03-08 03:08:44 PM
It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.
 
2012-03-08 03:09:53 PM

gtp123: I really don't like Romney and strongly support Obama but that headline does seem like a pretty unnecessary dig at him. He's not exactly running on being a Mormon. If the Jeremiah Wright thing is dumb then so is even more dumb.

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In fact, I think it is safe to say that he is trying very hard to hide the fact that he is a Mormon. But if you are going to pander to religious wackjobs then you're fair game yourself.
 
2012-03-08 03:12:25 PM
I've actually turned a corner here. Where I once wanted Newt to drop and give the voters a choice between Santorum and Romney, I now stand with all three staying in as long as they can. I know Newt and Santorum hadnt built for the long haul, but if they can stand as candidates as long as possible, it makes it difficult for Romney to achieve nomination delegates needed just in voting alone. And would allow the other two to utilize their delegates more and created a potential brokered convention.

Just another of the many reasons I love politics.
 
2012-03-08 03:12:27 PM

Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.


So the Republicans have given up completely?
 
2012-03-08 03:12:44 PM

Headso: At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby. Also curious who Romney will pick for a VP. Seems like he would have to go for a right wing lunatic to satisfy the base but that might further freak out moderates.


the flavor of the week VP is Marco Rubio. The (r)'s think he'll deliver them the latino vote.
 
2012-03-08 03:12:55 PM

gtp123: He's not exactly running on being a Mormon.


Unfortunately in today's GOP, all candidates have to run on the Invisible Sky Man platform.
 
2012-03-08 03:14:35 PM
So.......Newt doesn't have a chance?
 
2012-03-08 03:14:43 PM
Holy shiat, subby
 
2012-03-08 03:14:48 PM
To be fair (and I'll be the first to call the Church of LDS a scam) they've admitted blacks into the church since its founding. Blacks were prevented from being ordained and from the highest sacrement until the 1970s, but were always allowed to join the church. Not that it's any less shiatty to do that.
 
2012-03-08 03:15:42 PM

Headso: At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby.


ManBaby has zero chance, but Mr. Frothy is hoping that nobody (including Mittens) gets a majority of delegates during the primary process, so that it winds up being a brokered convention. Even if that happens, of course, Frothy Boy has next to zero chance of getting the nomination (it would still be Mittens who would be awarded the nomination), but you can't really blame him for trying. I'm enjoying the show, of course, and hope it keeps going all the way through the convention.

I live in California, where we usually have no say whatsoever in presidential nominations because our primary isn't until June and it's almost always wrapped up by then, but this year we may actually have a say. I'm an independent (not to be confused with a FarkIndependentTM), but if the Repub race isn't over soon, I might consider temporarily re-registering as a Republican so I can vote in the primary. At this point I'm not sure who I would vote for--if I were to vote for the one I would least object to actually becoming president I guess I'd vote for Ron Paul, but I would probably vote for Frothy Boy just to fark with the Repubs for maximum electoral trolling.
 
2012-03-08 03:15:45 PM

Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.


Rich and Crazy 2012!
 
2012-03-08 03:16:38 PM
Watching this all play out is like having special needs children play musical chairs without any chairs.

Or music for that matter...
 
2012-03-08 03:17:15 PM

LincolnLogolas: To be fair (and I'll be the first to call the Church of LDS a scam) they've admitted blacks into the church since its founding. Blacks were prevented from being ordained and from the highest sacrement until the 1970s, but were always allowed to join the church. Not that it's any less shiatty to do that.


And is that really any different than these churches that won't allow women to hold the higher positions in their churches?
 
2012-03-08 03:18:09 PM

Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.


Romney is more likely to select Palin as his running mate than Paul.
 
2012-03-08 03:18:59 PM
I think subby meant to say it's going to take an "act of God" for a Republican to get in the White House in 2012 after pissing off the majority of Americans with their sexist and racist bullshiat, but close enough, I guess.
 
2012-03-08 03:19:23 PM

CaptainCliche: Headso: At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby. Also curious who Romney will pick for a VP. Seems like he would have to go for a right wing lunatic to satisfy the base but that might further freak out moderates.

the flavor of the week VP is Marco Rubio. The (r)'s think he'll deliver them the latino vote.


See, that's assuming the rest of the Latino vote is rather foolish. Rubio is a Cuban-American, and my limited understanding that the Cuban-American is of a different sort than the rest of the Latino community here in the states, that being that Cubans tend to be significantly more conservative in general than your generic Latino voter.

/Might be wrong
//Correct me if so
 
2012-03-08 03:19:27 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

So the Republicans have given up completely?


Romney has beaten up on Santorum too much to take him under his wing as VP. Newt wouldn't do it if asked, as his baby head is too big to stoop to that level. Paul hasn't really been criticized too much by Romney. Who knows. Unless they bring an outside person in (Palin?), I would put my money on crazy Paul. Independents might figure that they would temper one another and meet somewhere in the middle. And, most importantly, leave out the theocratic nonsense for the most part.
 
2012-03-08 03:21:05 PM
What a lousy headline.
 
2012-03-08 03:21:35 PM

farkityfarker: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

Romney is more likely to select Palin as his running mate than Paul.


Eh, I dunno. A lot of people voted against her ticket last time because they were voting against the crazy as opposed to for Fartboma.
 
2012-03-08 03:22:02 PM

gtp123: I really don't like Romney and strongly support Obama but that headline does seem like a pretty unnecessary dig at him. He's not exactly running on being a Mormon. If the Jeremiah Wright thing is dumb then so is even more dumb.

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I disagree. Rev. Wright never said anything that would lead you to believe that he has a distain for white people. His church included MANY white members. His words were simply misconstrued to fit the narrative that Barack Obama was affiliated with radical black people.

It is a fact that Mormons did not believe, for whatever reason, that black people should be fully included in the Mormon church until 5 minutes ago. That is alarming.
 
2012-03-08 03:22:08 PM

Silly Jesus: farkityfarker: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

Romney is more likely to select Palin as his running mate than Paul.

Eh, I dunno. A lot of people voted against her ticket last time because they were voting against the crazy as opposed to for Fartboma.


Chris Christie. Heard it here first.
 
2012-03-08 03:22:27 PM

LincolnLogolas: To be fair (and I'll be the first to call the Church of LDS a scam) they've admitted blacks into the church since its founding. Blacks were prevented from being ordained and from the highest sacrement until the 1970s, but were always allowed to join the church. Not that it's any less shiatty to do that.


I do realize that, but Romney's spokesman says it would take "some sort of act of God" for any of Romney's opponents to win GOP nomination, sort of like what it took in the 1970s for black men to finally be allowed to hold the priesthood and participate in the temple Endowment and sealings necessary for the highest degree of salvation in Mitt's church would be way too many characters for a permissible Fark headline, and isn't very punchy anyway. So I had to take a few liberties there.

/Submitter
 
2012-03-08 03:22:51 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: CaptainCliche: Headso: At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby. Also curious who Romney will pick for a VP. Seems like he would have to go for a right wing lunatic to satisfy the base but that might further freak out moderates.

the flavor of the week VP is Marco Rubio. The (r)'s think he'll deliver them the latino vote.

See, that's assuming the rest of the Latino vote is rather foolish. Rubio is a Cuban-American, and my limited understanding that the Cuban-American is of a different sort than the rest of the Latino community here in the states, that being that Cubans tend to be significantly more conservative in general than your generic Latino voter.

/Might be wrong
//Correct me if so


You are mostly (partly?) wrong. Social conservatism is very strong throughout the latino community. I'm sure cubans have a much stronger distrust of government though....
 
2012-03-08 03:23:09 PM
Didn't the Mormons finally decide black people were more-or-less equal right about the time that BYU wanted to take its football team up to a national level?
 
2012-03-08 03:24:50 PM

gtp123: I really don't like Romney and strongly support Obama but that headline does seem like a pretty unnecessary dig at him. He's not exactly running on being a Mormon. If the Jeremiah Wright thing is dumb then so is even more dumb.

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They are a little bit different.

Obama sat his ass in a pew and probably dropped some money in the plate.

Romney is actually a fairly high-up church leader. He presided over the Boston Stake, so he effectively ran the Mormon church for the eastern half of his state.
 
2012-03-08 03:25:20 PM

Cyberluddite: LincolnLogolas: To be fair (and I'll be the first to call the Church of LDS a scam) they've admitted blacks into the church since its founding. Blacks were prevented from being ordained and from the highest sacrement until the 1970s, but were always allowed to join the church. Not that it's any less shiatty to do that.

I do realize that, but Romney's spokesman says it would take "some sort of act of God" for any of Romney's opponents to win GOP nomination, sort of like what it took in the 1970s for black men to finally be allowed to hold the priesthood and participate in the temple Endowment and sealings necessary for the highest degree of salvation in Mitt's church would be way too many characters for a permissible Fark headline, and isn't very punchy anyway. So I had to take a few liberties there.

/Submitter


It's a good headline. Haters are gonna hate.
 
2012-03-08 03:25:39 PM
This headline made me snicker.
 
2012-03-08 03:26:57 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: CaptainCliche: Headso: At that point I am curious why you bother staying in the race if you are Froth or Man Baby. Also curious who Romney will pick for a VP. Seems like he would have to go for a right wing lunatic to satisfy the base but that might further freak out moderates.

the flavor of the week VP is Marco Rubio. The (r)'s think he'll deliver them the latino vote.

See, that's assuming the rest of the Latino vote is rather foolish. Rubio is a Cuban-American, and my limited understanding that the Cuban-American is of a different sort than the rest of the Latino community here in the states, that being that Cubans tend to be significantly more conservative in general than your generic Latino voter.

/Might be wrong
//Correct me if so


Not to mention that there's no such thing as "illegal" Cuban immigrants--all any Cuban citizen has to do to legally enter America is show up at any border crossing and say "Hi, I'm Cuban" (or "Hola, soy Cubano") and, boom, the red carpet is rolled out and they are immediately granted legal residency in the U.S. Many Mexicans and other Latin Americans resent this, and I can't say I blame them.
 
2012-03-08 03:27:09 PM

Pincy: LincolnLogolas: To be fair (and I'll be the first to call the Church of LDS a scam) they've admitted blacks into the church since its founding. Blacks were prevented from being ordained and from the highest sacrement until the 1970s, but were always allowed to join the church. Not that it's any less shiatty to do that.

And is that really any different than these churches that won't allow women to hold the higher positions in their churches?


Somewhat: in traditional Mormon theology, dark skin was a literal mark of sin. It was explained that African blacks were so-colored due to descent from Cain, while American Indians (the "Lamanites") were so-colored due to having murdered their brother-tribes. So, while you could join the church, the simple fact that your skin wasn't lightened yet showed that you hadn't purged yourself of that sin.

(incidentally, I've never seen a Mormon explanation why the Prophet of any generation isn't literally glowing-white)

By contrast, even those Christian sects which blame women for original sin didn't keep them out of leadership because of any 'sin', but rather the Old Testament rules that women should always be subservient to men. In other words, it was (however horribly) a paternalistic gesture (in every sense of the word) as opposed to a judgment of their character.

In other words keeping blacks from the priesthood was a judgement on all people of color as being sinners, while keeping women from the same was not a judgment on their status as sinners, but simply being too incapable of leading.

Obviously it's all ridiculous; there's no reason your gender or skin color has anything to do with your ability to lead. But it's fair to think one is more ridiculous than the other.
 
2012-03-08 03:27:30 PM

madgonad: Romney is actually a fairly high-up church leader. He presided over the Boston Stake, so he effectively ran the Mormon church for the eastern half of his state.


A Stake President is like a low level manager in a Mega Corporation. Or a restaurant manager at a McDonald's restaurant.

So ... not really.
 
2012-03-08 03:28:06 PM

Silly Jesus: farkityfarker: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

Romney is more likely to select Palin as his running mate than Paul.

Eh, I dunno. A lot of people voted against her ticket last time because they were voting against the crazy as opposed to for Fartboma.


But Ron Paul is opposed to America's wars. This makes him unacceptable to either party, as they are both bought and paid for by the military contractors' lobbyists.
 
2012-03-08 03:29:26 PM

Silly Jesus: Philip Francis Queeg: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

So the Republicans have given up completely?

Romney has beaten up on Santorum too much to take him under his wing as VP. Newt wouldn't do it if asked, as his baby head is too big to stoop to that level. Paul hasn't really been criticized too much by Romney. Who knows. Unless they bring an outside person in (Palin?), I would put my money on crazy Paul. Independents might figure that they would temper one another and meet somewhere in the middle. And, most importantly, leave out the theocratic nonsense for the most part.


Paul is a disaster on the ticket.

There are two choices for him:

1. He publicly accepts the Republican platform and Romney's proposed polices. In that case he loses credibility with his supporters and is attacked for one of the biggest and quickest flip-flops in recent political history.

2. He stands by his policies and rejects the platform and Romney's policies. In that case the Obama campaign get's to attack the crazy train of crackpot ideas that Paul pulls with hims AND point out that the two Republican candidates don't agree on anything.

Either way it's bad for Romney and the Republican ticket.
 
2012-03-08 03:29:40 PM

Cyberluddite: Not to mention that there's no such thing as "illegal" Cuban immigrants--all any Cuban citizen has to do to legally enter America is show up at any border crossing and say "Hi, I'm Cuban" (or "Hola, soy Cubano") and, boom, the red carpet is rolled out and they are immediately granted legal residency in the U.S. Many Mexicans and other Latin Americans resent this, and I can't say I blame them.


Not true. Citation?
 
2012-03-08 03:29:51 PM

skullkrusher: Silly Jesus: farkityfarker: Silly Jesus: It will be a Romney - Paul ticket.

Romney is more likely to select Palin as his running mate than Paul.

Eh, I dunno. A lot of people voted against her ticket last time because they were voting against the crazy as opposed to for Fartboma.

Chris Christie. Heard it here first.


He's going to be their weapon when they are trying to rebuild the next time around. He'll run after Fartboma is done with his second term. He won't waste his time this round.
 
2012-03-08 03:29:54 PM

mathmatix: I've actually turned a corner here. Where I once wanted Newt to drop and give the voters a choice between Santorum and Romney, I now stand with all three staying in as long as they can. I know Newt and Santorum hadnt built for the long haul, but if they can stand as candidates as long as possible, it makes it difficult for Romney to achieve nomination delegates needed just in voting alone. And would allow the other two to utilize their delegates more and created a potential brokered convention.

Just another of the many reasons I love politics.


I've wondered if this is why Palin keeps endorsing Gingrich. She wants this chaos to continue on til the convention, when she will ride in on a snowmobile and shoot a donkey, winning the nomination.
 
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