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2012-03-08 02:55:59 PM  
I didn't see Kat Dennings anywhere in that article and I wanted to. I really wanted to.
 
2012-03-08 02:59:52 PM  
Bisexuals are just greedy, they want it all (ways).
If the article was about males it never would have got the green light, betcha.
 
2012-03-08 03:00:34 PM  
FTFA: The Good Wife's Kalinda Sharma (Archie Panjabi) was the first in this latest round of bisexual heroines.

I have thirteen reasons why this is wrong:

images.wikia.com
 
2012-03-08 03:06:05 PM  

cig-mkr: Bisexuals are just greedy, they want it all (ways).
If the article was about males it never would have got the green light, betcha.


That's because bisexual males are icky and bisexual chicks are hawt. Duh.
 
2012-03-08 03:07:47 PM  
That rare dinosaur, the Lickalotapuss?
 
2012-03-08 03:10:38 PM  
Yep. They'll fark anything with legs.
 
2012-03-08 03:11:33 PM  
I've seen too much porn to find this interesting anymore.

/wishes he was old enough to rent ultraporn.
 
2012-03-08 03:13:52 PM  
Every girl I've dated claims to have had a bi experience and to be somewhat attracted to women. No matter how much I encourage further exploration, those tendencies seem to be consigned to the mists of time, never to be repeated.

Something tells me I've been lied to.
 
2012-03-08 03:16:07 PM  

threedingers: That's because bisexual males are icky and bisexual chicks are hawt. Duh.


guys aren't bisexual. they're either gay or straight, a guy who says he's bi just hasn't come to terms that he's gay yet.

girls can be bisexual, unless I'm dating them, then they're like 100% straight, I mean WTF is up with that?
 
2012-03-08 03:21:33 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: guys aren't bisexual.


You don't know Jack.

upload.wikimedia.org

Forgot_my_password_again: girls can be bisexual, unless I'm dating them, then they're like 100% straight, I mean WTF is up with that?


It's pretty awesome until your wife/girlfriend decides she'd rather spend time with her girlfriend than with you.
 
2012-03-08 03:22:36 PM  
Cpt. Jack Harkness would like a word ...
 
2012-03-08 03:31:58 PM  
Bisexual means that I have 1/2 the chance with her.

0/2=0
 
2012-03-08 03:34:00 PM  
Once again, the porn industry lead the way.
 
2012-03-08 03:34:05 PM  

Inaditch: You don't know Jack.


Jack isn't bisexual.

Jack is omnisexual.
 
2012-03-08 03:36:02 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-03-08 03:36:17 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Inaditch: You don't know Jack.

Jack isn't bisexual.

Jack is omnisexual.


Meaning that only the dead are exempt?
 
2012-03-08 03:37:07 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Jack is omnisexual.


He f*cked God?
 
2012-03-08 03:37:33 PM  

Inaditch: It's pretty awesome until your wife/girlfriend decides she'd rather spend time with her girlfriend than with you.


That happened to a friend of mine. (Yes, it was a friend.)

Wife was a lawyer and did lots and lots of pro-bono work for GLBT causes. Then one day, she wants a divorce and moves her new girlfriend in as soon as she pushed her husband out of the house.

She switched back some time later and is now married to a man again.

Ugly, ugly situation.

/and her former girlfriend looks like a lumberjack
 
2012-03-08 03:38:27 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: threedingers: That's because bisexual males are icky and bisexual chicks are hawt. Duh.

guys aren't bisexual. they're either gay or straight, a guy who says he's bi just hasn't come to terms that he's gay yet.

girls can be bisexual, unless I'm dating them, then they're like 100% straight, I mean WTF is up with that?


That's totally wrong. Since gay people choose to be gay then that means that they wanted to sleep with both men and women, but chose men instead. Like all straight men, when I discovered the temptations of male flesh, I chose the path of righteousness instead.

I realize that these gay men struggle, which is why I spend several nights a week at The Manhole ministering to these poor, confused souls.
 
2012-03-08 03:38:55 PM  

Apos: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Inaditch: You don't know Jack.

Jack isn't bisexual.

Jack is omnisexual.

Meaning that only the dead are exempt?


As he's been dead before, I think the answer is no.

Cagey B: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Jack is omnisexual.

He f*cked God?


He would if he could.
 
2012-03-08 03:39:27 PM  
So um....you guys get all pysched up to watch broadcast TV for some girl on girl action?

/you know how I know you're gay?
 
2012-03-08 03:39:31 PM  

Surool: Once again, the porn industry lead the way.


encrypted-tbn1.google.com
 
2012-03-08 03:39:55 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I realize that these gay men struggle, which is why I spend several nights a week at The Manhole ministering to these poor, confused souls.


I appreciate all that you're doing to get into these boys' souls.
 
2012-03-08 03:40:01 PM  

IMDWalrus: [25.media.tumblr.com image 259x400]


Yes. Repeatedly.
 
2012-03-08 03:40:41 PM  

Cagey B: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Jack is omnisexual.

He f*cked God?


He would if he could - that's kind of the point.
 
2012-03-08 03:43:04 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rapmaster2000: I realize that these gay men struggle, which is why I spend several nights a week at The Manhole ministering to these poor, confused souls.

I appreciate all that you're doing to get into these boys' souls.


Right. That's what I said. Boys' souls.
 
2012-03-08 03:44:58 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Surool: Once again, the porn industry lead the way.

encrypted-tbn1.google.com


...and DVDs and the internet etc etc.

They really are the under credited early adopters of new media.
 
2012-03-08 03:47:48 PM  
The Good Wife's Kalinda Sharma (Archie Panjabi) was the first in this latest round of bisexual heroines.

I also helps that they dress her up like Dee Dee McCall going undercover as a hooker in pretty much every episode.
 
2012-03-08 03:52:42 PM  
I have a hypothesis that roughly 75-85% of all women have at least a little bit of bi tendency. Not that they'll all go and date and/or have sex with other women, just that at the very least they find some women sexually attractive and would fool around with them in the right (oh so right) situation, even if they won't admit it. I've developed this hypothesis through observations and experiences I've had.

I see it like women's sexuality is like a spectrum, rather than just straight up straight, gay, and bi. Think of a graph with the x axis going from fully straight to fully lesbian with a range in between, y being # of women. I'd say the graph looks like a bell curve shifted toward the fully straight side. Basically, the majority of women are mostly straight, but not fully.
 
2012-03-08 03:55:28 PM  

IMDWalrus: [25.media.tumblr.com image 259x400]



Thank you,ravishing Bo,for dethroning Madonna and reminding the world of what a succubus should look like!

/Yum,yum.
 
2012-03-08 03:56:04 PM  
For you maybe. Or teenaged boys. It's just for ratings.
 
2012-03-08 04:00:18 PM  
my wife is bi for the exact certain types of females that might spark an interest, or ones that look 'lesbiany', like Pink or Latifah or Starbuck.

/css
 
2012-03-08 04:01:09 PM  

ajt167: I have a hypothesis that roughly 75-85% of all women have at least a little bit of bi tendency. Not that they'll all go and date and/or have sex with other women, just that at the very least they find some women sexually attractive and would fool around with them in the right (oh so right) situation, even if they won't admit it. I've developed this hypothesis through observations and experiences I've had.

I see it like women's sexuality is like a spectrum, rather than just straight up straight, gay, and bi. Think of a graph with the x axis going from fully straight to fully lesbian with a range in between, y being # of women. I'd say the graph looks like a bell curve shifted toward the fully straight side. Basically, the majority of women are mostly straight, but not fully.


not really.

it's media; well, media and porn.

men are (often) portrayed as buffoons, pigs, often stupid and worthless or simple lecherous fiends in the media.

women are portrayed as sex goddesses, smart, and in control.

and in your average porno, there is usually a girl-girl scene between two hot chicks that usually look like they have no idea what to do with a pussy, but are excited to be there.

why do you think most women shave their privates? porn.
why do you think tons of women think women are hot and sexy? the media and porn.
also, there is very little stigma attached to two women (especially two hot women) having sex with each other.

but the truth is that people are born either straight or gay.

that is why so many "gay" female celebrities claim to be lesbian but end up married to men.
 
2012-03-08 04:03:09 PM  
Kalinda is one of the most efficient characters on television-she single-handedly solves a mystery at the center of the show with remarkable frequency-but she hates to be pigeonholed.

To be fair, there IS only so much the censors will let you get away with.
 
2012-03-08 04:04:12 PM  
Burgoyne 172 approves of this.
 
2012-03-08 04:18:41 PM  

frepnog: ajt167: I have a hypothesis that roughly 75-85% of all women have at least a little bit of bi tendency. Not that they'll all go and date and/or have sex with other women, just that at the very least they find some women sexually attractive and would fool around with them in the right (oh so right) situation, even if they won't admit it. I've developed this hypothesis through observations and experiences I've had.

I see it like women's sexuality is like a spectrum, rather than just straight up straight, gay, and bi. Think of a graph with the x axis going from fully straight to fully lesbian with a range in between, y being # of women. I'd say the graph looks like a bell curve shifted toward the fully straight side. Basically, the majority of women are mostly straight, but not fully.

not really.

it's media; well, media and porn.

men are (often) portrayed as buffoons, pigs, often stupid and worthless or simple lecherous fiends in the media.

women are portrayed as sex goddesses, smart, and in control.

and in your average porno, there is usually a girl-girl scene between two hot chicks that usually look like they have no idea what to do with a pussy, but are excited to be there.

why do you think most women shave their privates? porn.
why do you think tons of women think women are hot and sexy? the media and porn.
also, there is very little stigma attached to two women (especially two hot women) having sex with each other.

but the truth is that people are born either straight or gay.

that is why so many "gay" female celebrities claim to be lesbian but end up married to men.


I don't think you can boil it down to media and porn that much considering I've seen it with older women as much as younger women. These older women grew up without porn being nearly as prevalent as it is today and watching shows like "Father Knows Best" and the like, before the male buffoon became commonplace (which that trope seems to be dying off anyway). It still seems to me that sexual orientation/preference is a spectrum rather than just a binary thing. Even with guys, but the difference there is that most guys do fall into the fully gay or fully straight categories with the minority falling into other parts of the spectrum. Just my observations, anyway.
 
2012-03-08 04:18:55 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: girls can be bisexual, unless I'm dating them, then they're like 100% straight, I mean WTF is up with that?


Inaditch: It's pretty awesome until your wife/girlfriend decides she'd rather spend time with her girlfriend than with you.


This; assuming she's not full of shiat, take it as a compliment. Like any other human being bisexuals want to be with the person they enjoy being around most, and if they'd rather be with you than anyone else then you're that person.

ajt167: I see it like women's sexuality is like a spectrum, rather than just straight up straight, gay, and bi.

Everyone

is like that. The only reason women's sexuality is perceived like that is because it's gaining popularity -- nothing more. Men are still perceived as gay or straight because the public sees it that way. Bisexuals basically have to pretend they're one or the other (possibly at the expense of showing affection in public) unless they're willing to embrace all kinds of slurs -- "confused", "whore", "fake". It's great that homosexuality is slowly gaining social acceptance, but we still have a long way to go.

An openly bi male friend of mine killed himself back in high school, so I'm gonna speak up if someone has misconceptions about them. Bi men do exist, and they don't have it easy. Basically, straight men hate them because of bigotry, straight women hate them because of insecurity, and gays hate them because bi men can "hide" by pretending to be straight.
 
2012-03-08 04:33:46 PM  

dragonchild: Everyone is like that. The only reason women's sexuality is perceived like that is because it's gaining popularity -- nothing more. Men are still perceived as gay or straight because the public sees it that way. Bisexuals basically have to pretend they're one or the other (possibly at the expense of showing affection in public) unless they're willing to embrace all kinds of slurs -- "confused", "whore", "fake". It's great that homosexuality is slowly gaining social acceptance, but we still have a long way to go.

An openly bi male friend of mine killed himself back in high school, so I'm gonna speak up if someone has misconceptions about them. Bi men do exist, and they don't have it easy. Basically, straight men hate them because of bigotry, straight women hate them because of insecurity, and gays hate them because bi men can "hide" by pretending to be straight.


I agree that men have a spectrum as well, read my previous post (I probably posted it at the same time you were posting yours). The only difference I see between men and women is how the population is distributed along the spectrum in that less men seem to fall in the bi range. The only problem is that, as you've said, bi men have a greater stigma than any other gender/orientation combo so they'll be less likely to admit it. The actual amount of bi men is most likely higher than what I've seen, but we can't tell to what degree. A little higher, a good bit higher, or much much higher such that the graph for men and women would be pretty much identical? I'd love input from other people on this such as yourself.
 
2012-03-08 04:39:38 PM  
This thread is not like I thought it'd be. Their had better be some bi-chick pics making out w/ other chicks when I get back.
 
2012-03-08 04:42:57 PM  

dragonchild: This; assuming she's not full of shiat, take it as a compliment. Like any other human being bisexuals want to be with the person they enjoy being around most, and if they'd rather be with you than anyone else then you're that person.


I forgot to respond to this bit too. Agreed 100%. Consider also that the bisexual has a larger pool to choose their partners from and they still chose you.

/My wife is bi, more on the straight end, probably 65/35.
//Told me from the get go no threesomes because it could damage our relationship if we got serious.
//The little things are awesome with it - catching her drooling over a nice pair of boobs and her awkardly and clumsily trying to tell me she wasn't, wanting to watch things just because they have some female nudity, checking out other girls' asses together, I could go on.
 
2012-03-08 04:53:34 PM  

Apos: IMDWalrus: [25.media.tumblr.com image 259x400]

Thank you,ravishing Bo,for dethroning Madonna and reminding the world of what a succubus should look like!

/Yum,yum.


This. I'm loving that show, despite (or maybe because of) its cheese-tastic goodness. Though I must say I think Kenzi's cuter. Those eyes...

images5.fanpop.com

And that scene with her kissing the doctor from a couple eps back is relevant to this thread:

26.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-03-08 04:58:55 PM  
damn im a nerd,

TFA In the Big Book of Quotations for Boorish Dudes, pride of place goes to Woody Allen's line that bisexuality "immediately doubles your chance of a date on Saturday night."

does anyone else immediately think no that would only be true if the straight vs gay pool were equal in size, which seems unlikely at best.

/fun... parties... yeah
//but when there is a 1/650 chance an asteroid will flatten earth who are you turning too, celebrities or astrophysicists.... i suppose steven hawking technically qualifies as both
 
2012-03-08 05:03:43 PM  
I guess it's easier than hiring good writers.
 
2012-03-08 05:08:24 PM  

ajt167: dragonchild: Everyone is like that. The only reason women's sexuality is perceived like that is because it's gaining popularity -- nothing more. Men are still perceived as gay or straight because the public sees it that way. Bisexuals basically have to pretend they're one or the other (possibly at the expense of showing affection in public) unless they're willing to embrace all kinds of slurs -- "confused", "whore", "fake". It's great that homosexuality is slowly gaining social acceptance, but we still have a long way to go.

An openly bi male friend of mine killed himself back in high school, so I'm gonna speak up if someone has misconceptions about them. Bi men do exist, and they don't have it easy. Basically, straight men hate them because of bigotry, straight women hate them because of insecurity, and gays hate them because bi men can "hide" by pretending to be straight.

I agree that men have a spectrum as well, read my previous post (I probably posted it at the same time you were posting yours). The only difference I see between men and women is how the population is distributed along the spectrum in that less men seem to fall in the bi range. The only problem is that, as you've said, bi men have a greater stigma than any other gender/orientation combo so they'll be less likely to admit it. The actual amount of bi men is most likely higher than what I've seen, but we can't tell to what degree. A little higher, a good bit higher, or much much higher such that the graph for men and women would be pretty much identical? I'd love input from other people on this such as yourself.


I agree with you and would consider myself bi-sexual though I go after women for a relationship I am not opposed to having a sexual encounter with a man. I could never see myself dating a man or living with a man, but I have and do see myself living with a woman. My girlfriend is also bi-sexual and though we haven't spoken as to if she could live with another woman I get the idea that she is the same as me from how she describes her past encounters with a female (there has only been one). She like me would have a friend of the same sex that we would have sex with, but we wouldn't try to develop the relationship beyond sexual friendship. I guess one could think of that as closet bi, but for me I haven't felt affection towards my friends (I have had three) in the same way I felt towards my girlfriends (nine of those) sure the sex was enjoyable, but I have always felt like it was just something that felt good and was fun to do.
 
2012-03-08 05:09:00 PM  

fusillade762: Apos: IMDWalrus: [25.media.tumblr.com image 259x400]

Thank you,ravishing Bo,for dethroning Madonna and reminding the world of what a succubus should look like!

/Yum,yum.

This. I'm loving that show, despite (or maybe because of) its cheese-tastic goodness. Though I must say I think Kenzi's cuter. Those eyes...

[images5.fanpop.com image 500x636]

And that scene with her kissing the doctor from a couple eps back is relevant to this thread:

[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x282]


Kenzie's definitely attractive and her spunkiness,while initially irritating,has since become endearing.

This week's ep was the hottest one yet,though. Holy shiat.
 
2012-03-08 05:24:16 PM  

Hoopy Frood: I guess it's easier than hiring good writers.


This isn't about art, it is about product. Duh.
 
2012-03-08 06:18:54 PM  
I really wouldn't call Kalinda a hero. She's much more anti-hero.

Also, if you haven't been watching The Good Wife you've been missing a fantastic show.
 
i^2
2012-03-08 06:19:22 PM  

Hoopy Frood: I guess it's easier than hiring good writers.


While you certainly have a point re: the possibility of including gratuitous salacious content to help make up for bad writing, if you're claming that The Good Wife is badly written, then I'm afraid you're wrong. Not just "like, that's just your opinion, man" wrong, but objectively factually incorrect.
 
2012-03-08 06:22:55 PM  

Profedius: ajt167: dragonchild: Everyone is like that. The only reason women's sexuality is perceived like that is because it's gaining popularity -- nothing more. Men are still perceived as gay or straight because the public sees it that way. Bisexuals basically have to pretend they're one or the other (possibly at the expense of showing affection in public) unless they're willing to embrace all kinds of slurs -- "confused", "whore", "fake". It's great that homosexuality is slowly gaining social acceptance, but we still have a long way to go.

An openly bi male friend of mine killed himself back in high school, so I'm gonna speak up if someone has misconceptions about them. Bi men do exist, and they don't have it easy. Basically, straight men hate them because of bigotry, straight women hate them because of insecurity, and gays hate them because bi men can "hide" by pretending to be straight.

I agree that men have a spectrum as well, read my previous post (I probably posted it at the same time you were posting yours). The only difference I see between men and women is how the population is distributed along the spectrum in that less men seem to fall in the bi range. The only problem is that, as you've said, bi men have a greater stigma than any other gender/orientation combo so they'll be less likely to admit it. The actual amount of bi men is most likely higher than what I've seen, but we can't tell to what degree. A little higher, a good bit higher, or much much higher such that the graph for men and women would be pretty much identical? I'd love input from other people on this such as yourself.

I agree with you and would consider myself bi-sexual though I go after women for a relationship I am not opposed to having a sexual encounter with a man. I could never see myself dating a man or living with a man, but I have and do see myself living with a woman. My girlfriend is also bi-sexual and though we haven't spoken as to if she could live with another woman I get the idea that she is the same as me from how she describes her past encounters with a female (there has only been one). She like me would have a friend of the same sex that we would have sex with, but we wouldn't try to develop the relationship beyond sexual friendship. I guess one could think of that as closet bi, but for me I haven't felt affection towards my friends (I have had three) in the same way I felt towards my girlfriends (nine of those) sure the sex was enjoyable, but I have always felt like it was just something that felt good and was fun to do.

Glad to hear from both of you. As a bi woman I've found I have better relationships with women than men even though I'm attracted to both. I used to just let people believe what the wanted, as in if I was with a women I was a Lesbian, and if I was with a man I was straight. I can say how many times I've heard over the years there's no such thing as bisexual.

After I heard about the Kinsey scale it all made sense.

 
2012-03-08 06:39:07 PM  
thread needs more pics
 
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