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2012-03-08 02:40:08 PM  
a.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-08 02:42:00 PM  
Really, a gazzilllion Stalker references and not one Modern Warfare?

Disapproves

files.g4tv.com
 
2012-03-08 02:42:41 PM  
After all the nip disbelief comments, I guess I qualify as some sort of super-Fark sex-guru. Seen 'em all...

Came for the "50,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town" comment.

/disappointed
 
2012-03-08 02:49:23 PM  
lh6.ggpht.com
 
2012-03-08 02:51:41 PM  
"50,000 evacuated"

/ Indian Point creepily gazes at NYC
 
2012-03-08 02:53:12 PM  

KiplingKat872: Want to know how I know many farkers here have never been with a pregnant woman?


I have a son and my ex's never looked like that when she was pregnant.......................
 
2012-03-08 03:07:30 PM  

Codenamechaz: I don't think anyone can accurately predict what would happen if it did actually reach the sun. Would it burn up? Would it adversely affect the sun and speed up it's decay? Or cause the sun to begin projecting the radiation back at us when we have solar storms like the one we're being hit with today?


Uh, no, I can tell you exactly (or at least close enough) what will happen, based on an elementary undergraduate astrophysics course. First off, the mass ratio of rocket vs sun would make the effect roughly equivalent to dropping a single drop of radioactive material into the ocean here on earth. You might -- briefly -- be able to measure something at the source but once the drop has diluted over the entire volume of the ocean it will effectly vanish. Second, that first point is moot anyway once you consider what radiation is to begin with. You can have alpha particles which are helium nuclei stripped of their electrons, beta particles which are just free electrons and gamma radiation which is just high energy photons. The sun functions on a basic level by fusing hydrogen into helium, so any alpha particles you throw into the mix are just going to blend right into the sea of helium already there. The sun is also energetic enough that most of the atoms present have been ionized, or stripped of their electrons, so any beta radiation thrown in will just blend right in with all the other free electrons. Finally, the sun is awash in a sea of high energy photons released during the fusion reactions, so much so that they actually provide some of the pressure that resists the force of gravity due to the immense mass and help stabilize the star against collapse. Adding a few more photons into the mix will do essentially nothing.

So shoot all the missiles into the sun you want; you're not going to hurt a thing.
 
2012-03-08 03:10:21 PM  

unyon: Firstly, it's notoriously difficult to do any kind of population survey with these animals


They actually have several colonies of captive animals (mice, shrews, etc...) within the exclusion zone that they have been monitoring on an ongoing basis. They have also been tracking wolves through the use of radio transmitters. Then there are visual checks of dens, nests, burrows, etc... to see how the offspring are turning out.

I agree that the degree of error is at least moderate and that animals with short versus long lifespans may react different, but it is useful information.


urbangirl: This is why nuclear power is a bad idea. When things go bad, they go very bad. And they stay that way for a very long time.


More people have died from coal mining accidents than nuclear power accidents. Same for deaths from long-term exposure to airborne pollution expelled from hydrocarbon-fired power plants.

The inherent problems that faulted both Chernobyl and Fukushima have been resolved with more modern reactor designs. Both of those accidents involved reactors that were designed during the late 50s - early 60s and built during the 70s. Heck, the Soviet RBMK reactor used at Chernobyl was a relatively unsafe design even for its time.

It is like looking at a high-speed crash between a '74 Yugo and a '74 Corolla and then making the statement that all cars are unsafe. Look at the crashes that have happened with F1/Indy race cars where the cars are shredded but people have walked away. Stuff does improve over time.
 
2012-03-08 03:11:46 PM  

Nexzus: silvervial: KiplingKat872: Want to know how I know many farkers here have never been with a pregnant woman?

Link (new window)

"You may be able to see veins under the skin of your breasts, and you may find that your nipples are getting bigger and darker. After the first few months, your areolas - the pigmented circles around your nipples - will also be bigger and darker.

You may not have noticed the little bumps on your areolas before. But now these bumps, which are a type of oil-producing gland called Montgomery's tubercles, may become much more pronounced. Your breasts go through these changes in preparation for nursing your baby."

The woman was a brunette, so her nips were dark to begin with. They just got darker and bigger. The lack of definition aroudn the areola is probably part of the deal.

Dude, I WAS a pregnant brunette woman. I was very aware of the changes my breasts, my whole body, went through during that time. And still, my nipples never, ever looked like that picture. My areolas got slightly darker, and my nipples were always a bit puffy/semi-erect, but that's it. They still looked like nipples. After I was through nursing, they went back to their normal color.

In this picture, I thought it was a WOUND, for christ's sake, that's how weird that nipple looks. I don't think it's normal. I thought it was an example of the radiation mutations.

My fiancee, who is still nursing our five month son, has nipples like that. She's of middle eastern descent. They don't really bother me (or her obviously) but they'll go back to the perfection they were before.


Gonna need some pics....
 
2012-03-08 03:12:47 PM  

McManus_brothers: Codenamechaz: ihatedumbpeople: Kibbler: Delawheredad: The Soviets were notoriously bad stewards of the environment. Their part of the arctic is littered with nuclear waste. At lest the West tried to treat it properly. Chernobyl was a very poorly designed nuclear reactor.

Yeah. We put our waste into barrels and retaining ponds and then let it sit for 50 years. USA! USA!

There is no way to treat radioactive waste properly. At best, you're passing it on to future generations. "Now that we got the energy, here, you can have the mess."

Yeah...that's the big downside to nuke energy...obviously the threat of leaks, quakes, etc is always there, but the waste...where do you put it??? bury it in the middle of Montana and warn the 2 people it might contaminate? who knows...

Clearly the answer is to launch it into space with the rest of our garbage.

Serious question: why not load it all onto a large rocket (like, Saturn V-sized) and launch it towards the Sun? I'm not a rocket scientist, but the only downside I see to this is an accident on blastoff. Then we're really f*cked.


Yeah, you wouldn't do it because there's no safe way to get it into orbit without a statistically significant chance of it raining down on somewhere important (i.e., anywhere). But if you could, it would have the same effect on the sun as an ounce of VX liquid or super-concentrated hydroflouric acid would have on the ocean -- absolutely none. We couldn't manufacture enough nuclear waste (or any other sort of material, for that matter) in 100,000 years to have a significant effect on the sun. it could absorb something the size and density of the moon without much problem, even less if that mass is spread out over time. It's just a question of scale. You're talking about a nuclear furnace that out-masses this planet and everything on it by hundreds or thousands of times.
 
2012-03-08 03:15:02 PM  

Codenamechaz: I don't think anyone can accurately predict what would happen if it did actually reach the sun.


www.cuteandweird.com

I think you forget the scale in which the sun utterly dwarfs us. Anything we throw at the sun would barely register and would be nothing compared to the annual fluctuations we see.
 
2012-03-08 03:16:55 PM  
Why do pictures of Pripyat and the surrounding areas fascinate me so? I will have to visit there before I die. Oh yeah and some snarky comment about nipples.
 
2012-03-08 03:19:01 PM  
Oh yeah and kudos to subby for this not being a slideshow!
 
2012-03-08 03:21:36 PM  
Here's the awesome "science" of nuclear power... "Big Dumb Water Heater"

What happens when the holding tanks, or any of the circulation cooling systems are ripped away by a tornado and flung for miles? What happens when a rogue tornado hits a plant and sends fuel rods spinning in the air like a busted piñata ? Let me guess... we'll say "omg we couldn't have imagined this could happen... Sorry!" Pay a few fines and get bad press for a while. Eventually, it all evens out. You know, the liabilities and whatnots.
 
2012-03-08 03:28:18 PM  

Turbo Cojones: After all the nip disbelief comments, I guess I qualify as some sort of super-Fark sex-guru. Seen 'em all...

Came for the "50,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town" comment.

/disappointed


Obviously you didn't look very hard.
 
2012-03-08 03:29:56 PM  
Anyone else think of this?

farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-03-08 03:31:47 PM  
"oh Diablo Canyon 2, why can't you be more like Diablo Canyon 1?"
 
2012-03-08 03:34:49 PM  
And another:

farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-03-08 03:35:41 PM  
...Wow. That is beautiful.

/Nipple? ...You are looking at a living manifestation of farking death and you're whining about what now?
 
2012-03-08 03:38:31 PM  
Nah... Don't load radioactive gunk into missiles and fling it at the sun. The right technology is being developed right now: A big farkin' rail gun. Once the bullet leaves the atmosphere, ain't nothing to stop it.
 
2012-03-08 03:40:26 PM  

jabelar: Cancer Forgotten Beast Syndromes and radiation Contact Exposure is a statistical thing so while limiting the length of time is certainly a factor, every time the workers Dwarves go in there they are increasing their chance of cancers Infection.


You don't fark with radiation Forgotten Beast Syndromes...

Behold:
The records of Kikrost Duralkosoth of the Reclamation of Battlefailed (new window)
"In related news, we had a lot of kobold ambushes show up this year, all of them with bows. The solution to their annoying sniping of dwarves on Battlefailed's walls was to open the front gate and let them in. There were no survivors (a handful managed to get back out of the gates again but they all bled to death or asphyxiated within a few steps)."

/Yes. EVERYTHING can be compared to dwarf fortress.
 
2012-03-08 03:41:29 PM  

I Havent Killed Anybody Since 1984: Anyone else think of this?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x333]


More like Fallout.

/Oh yes I did.
 
2012-03-08 03:51:55 PM  

Loud_Mouth_Soup: Via Infinito: Am I the only one who doesn't see a nipple? There's something scary looking in that picture, but it looks nothing like a nipple...


It's a macaroon.


It's an oatmeal, raisin cookie.
 
2012-03-08 03:58:14 PM  

Bag of Hammers: Really, a gazzilllion Stalker references and not one Modern Warfare?

Disapproves

[files.g4tv.com image 600x313]


Oh its because we like GOOD games...

Haha, I say that in jest. MW was pretty awesome and that sniper level on the platform was pretty sick. But seriously, MW got Halo-ed...After Infinity Ward found they had a goldmine, they went straight to the lowest common denominator and forgot what they had made.

/Agrees with SH and Stalker references, if it was abandoned in the late 50s/early 60s, you'd have Bioshock in there as well!
 
2012-03-08 04:08:40 PM  
If you think this is nuclear horror... Japan's demonic nuclear nightmare is worse by orders of magnitudes.
 
2012-03-08 04:25:22 PM  

atomic-age: The color was what surprised me. Yuck.


Someone has probably already said this, but nipples darken during pregnancy. That's a normal color. It's a hormone thing.
 
2012-03-08 04:34:09 PM  

shanrick: Loud_Mouth_Soup: Via Infinito: Am I the only one who doesn't see a nipple? There's something scary looking in that picture, but it looks nothing like a nipple...


It's a macaroon.

It's an oatmeal, raisin cookie.


Dammit, now I'm hungry.
 
2012-03-08 04:57:17 PM  
I swear I had something for this. Something about street markets in Kiev?
 
2012-03-08 05:14:43 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: ....

Yeah...that's the big downside to nuke energy...obviously the threat of leaks, quakes, etc is always there, but the waste...where do you put it??? bury it in the middle of Montana and warn the 2 people it might contaminate? who knows...


Why not build a storage facility on the moon and store it there? After all, that's a desolate place, what's the worst that could happen?
 
2012-03-08 05:35:14 PM  
ihatedumpeople

Yeah...that's the big downside to nuke energy...obviously the threat of leaks, quakes, etc is always there, but the waste...where do you put it??? bury it in the middle of Montana and warn the 2 people it might contaminate? who knows...

Why not build a storage facility on the moon and store it there? After all, that's a desolate place, what's the worst that could happen?

The atomic waste dump on the moon exploding is what launches the moon on an interstellar journey in "Space 1999". It completely violates the laws of physics but ... you never know.
 
2012-03-08 05:38:12 PM  

GungFu: discgolfguru: If there was ONE link on Fark that I didn't expect to see nipples in, it was this one. Color me surprised.


I wouldn't want to suck on that thing; poor kid.

Photos look like its from some Andrei Tartovsky film.


It gets worse. Ever see Chernobyl Heart (new window)?

Specifically this clip (new window) Warning - graphic, NSF Heart Strings... You'll ball your eyes out.
 
2012-03-08 05:38:58 PM  

PsiChick: ...Wow. That is beautiful.

/Nipple? ...You are looking at a living manifestation of farking death and you're whining about what now?


To be fair, pregnip is kinda gross.
 
2012-03-08 05:51:15 PM  
Deep ocean trench disposal is actually the best terrestrial option. Water makes excellent shielding and any contamination that escapes the casks will be diluted by the ocean.
 
2012-03-08 06:05:41 PM  
came for the creepy-looking clown-face amusement park ride.... or the arguments about the kiddofspeed web photos.....

but I guess a cher-nipple discussion is allright too.
 
2012-03-08 06:11:35 PM  

GungFu: They've already tried that:


My, what are those, they look like mock-ups for a film that was OBVIOUSLY NEVER PRODUCED.

We will speak of this no more.
 
2012-03-08 06:33:35 PM  

Shadyman: I Havent Killed Anybody Since 1984: Anyone else think of this?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

More like Fallout.

/Oh yes I did.


www.zeroclientmusic.com
 
2012-03-08 06:35:41 PM  

Dinjiin: Stuff does improve over time.


"Stuff" might, but people don't and neither does nature.
 
2012-03-08 06:52:23 PM  

htomc: Why not build a storage facility on the moon and store it there? After all, that's a desolate place, what's the worst that could happen?


I'm going to go with:

Challenger-like explosion of the launch vehicle, rains nuclear material all over a hundred-thousand square mile swath of land and sea.
 
2012-03-08 06:52:57 PM  
I'm concerned with the near-black nipples in 20. Has that been investigated?
 
2012-03-08 06:57:45 PM  

Kibbler: Delawheredad: The Soviets were notoriously bad stewards of the environment. Their part of the arctic is littered with nuclear waste. At lest the West tried to treat it properly. Chernobyl was a very poorly designed nuclear reactor.

Yeah. We put our waste into barrels and retaining ponds and then let it sit for 50 years. USA! USA!

There is no way to treat radioactive waste properly. At best, you're passing it on to future generations. "Now that we got the energy, here, you can have the mess."


Or we could build breeder reactors, get use out of it, and not have waste to deal with anymore. But we can't do that because OMG NUKES!
 
2012-03-08 07:44:53 PM  
Chances are #20 didn't live long enough to see her baby's 3rd birthday. Those of you who are getting your puerile giggles on looking at that mother's left breast should know that she has infiltrating ductal carcinoma, probably Stage IIIb. Google image it (You'll have to turn off "safe" mode...God knows we can't look at medical photos of a woman's breast.)

Yeah, let's just go ahead and giggle at that nipple and the mom.

Sheesh.

/knows of which she speaks
//M.D., Internal Medicine, Johns Hopkins, class of 1990
///Take two ibuprofen and DON'T call me in the morning
 
2012-03-08 07:55:04 PM  

Gelatinous: "Stuff" might, but people don't and neither does nature.


By that logic, we should all become Luddites because nobody can be trusted with anything more than twigs and straw. Although the opening of "2001" makes me question if we can even handle the twigs.
 
2012-03-08 07:58:17 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: the puritans were an extremely sexed-up bunch, too. something like a third or more of all brides went to the altar pregnant, and they viewed pleasing your partner in bed as one of the highest commandments of god.


Yeah like most religions that treat women as chattel. Treating them as sub-human also made it easier for them to burn at the stake as witches.

I don't think that view of Puritanical history is from the view of the child-bride baby machine females of the time.
 
2012-03-08 08:02:22 PM  

Mrs. Beasley: Chances are #20 didn't live long enough to see her baby's 3rd birthday. Those of you who are getting your puerile giggles on looking at that mother's left breast should know that she has infiltrating ductal carcinoma, probably Stage IIIb. Google image it (You'll have to turn off "safe" mode...God knows we can't look at medical photos of a woman's breast.)

Yeah, let's just go ahead and giggle at that nipple and the mom.

Sheesh.

/knows of which she speaks
//M.D., Internal Medicine, Johns Hopkins, class of 1990
///Take two ibuprofen and DON'T call me in the morning


We all agree it's tragic.

But it's also a chocolate chip cookie.
 
2012-03-08 08:19:11 PM  
img837.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-08 08:49:52 PM  

Silly Jesus: Russia is depressing. Every video/photo I see of that place has a sort of grey quality to it.


Yes, it has a distinct aroma too...
 
2012-03-08 09:08:43 PM  

nocturn: PsiChick: ...Wow. That is beautiful.

/Nipple? ...You are looking at a living manifestation of farking death and you're whining about what now?

To be fair, pregnip is kinda gross.


I honestly didn't even notice once I realized it was a nipple and not some weird dirt or something...

/Maybe I'm just weird.
 
2012-03-08 09:33:24 PM  

Gleeman: That region looks like a great setting for a video game!

/too late?
//and what's with the group birthing room?


Indeed.

i.geeksailor.com
 
2012-03-08 10:40:12 PM  
#20--is there anything uglier than a newborn human? Unless it's yours?
 
2012-03-08 11:29:16 PM  

Dinjiin: Codenamechaz: I don't think anyone can accurately predict what would happen if it did actually reach the sun.

[www.cuteandweird.com image 510x286]

I think you forget the scale in which the sun utterly dwarfs us. Anything we throw at the sun would barely register and would be nothing compared to the annual fluctuations we see.


Was about to say this.... an object the size of the entire god damn earth could hit the sun, and we wouldn't notice... it would be like a pixel on your monitor flickering for a second or two, by the time you think you saw something change?... no wait, nothing happened, oh well. The sun is just so insanely massive, there is NOTHING we could do to impact it.
But with the risk of the launch vehicle failing? AWFUL idea.


John Buck 41: #20--is there anything uglier than a newborn human? Unless it's yours?


Also this ^ ... newborns are ugly, all videos/photos I've seen of birth are ugly, cept when I think of my son being born... most amazing and beautiful thing I've ever been a part of, funny how that works. Also difficult, my god they don't tell you how hard it's going to be (and I'm the husband, imagine how hard it was for my wife!)

And on a nipple related note, eh, those nipples are fine, get over yourselves.
 
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