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(NYPost)   Fight attendants say electronic devices are now the number one cause of unruly behavior by passengers who can't understand how they can flummox a 747-8 Intercontinental with something they bought at Radio Shack   (nypost.com) divider line 379
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2012-03-08 06:15:16 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Smackledorfer: here to help: And I love how people scream about their "FREEDUMZ" over have to turn their phones off for ten minutes during take off/landing yet they allowed it so you can't get on a plane without being irradiated or sexually assaulted.

Priorities, people!

I take that up a notch and point to the millions who accept torture, war lies, and all manner of authoritarian bullshiat but think pat downs are the goddamn end of freedom as we know it.

Oh noes, that guy's knuckles brushed my wiener!

I've been complaining about that crap as well, just not in this thread.

here to help: So you'd do all those things in a taxi?

Not once have I been asked to turn my cell phone off in a taxi.

here to help: And you seem to think aircraft are public property.

I never said anything like that. I did say they aren't a house, but that doesn't mean that I think an aircraft is public property. I also brought up the fact that I'm giving them money, but that was to bring up the point that I'm not just some freeloader who should be happy with whatever i get. I'm a paying customer, and as such I shouldn't be required to put up with stupid BS. To which I'm certain you'll reply (because you already have) "Just find a different mode of transportation!". That argument would be reasonable if there were a reasonable alternative. This is a massive farking country, and people need to get across it. If they need to do so in a decent amount of time, that means flying. Selecting a different airline isn't possible, because they are getting their rules from the same source (or at least decided to all follow the same rules independently).

Saying "just don't fly" is a stupid argument, for many reasons.

here to help: Is your phone some kind of heroin injection device? Why are you so tied to the thing you can't just turn it off for ten minutes?

It's not, and I can, and that's completely beside the point. I can also stand on my head, would it be reasonable for an airline to require a head ...


There is absolutely no talking to you about this. Over the years I've found you to be a humorous, intelligent and reasonable individual but as soon as this topic comes up you start frothing like a rabid badger.

You'll get over it... or have a heart attack.
 
2012-03-08 06:16:22 PM

sprawl15: That's the point. All electronic device usage is banned from planes, by default. Airlines just happen to be allowed to waive these rules.


If you can waive the rules, they can't be all that terribly important, now can they?

The point is that it's not really a safety issue, it's just a rule that was put in place because someone somewhere thought it might happen. If it were a credible threat, you would not be allowed to even bring the devices on board. As others have mentioned, they make you get rid of your water bottle, but not your cell phone.

However, the place to dispute this rule isn't on the plane with flight attendants who are just doing their job. The correct way to do it is to take your complaint to the FCC, FAA and the airlines and try to get like minded people to stand with you on it.
 
2012-03-08 06:16:49 PM

kingoomieiii: Fark It: It's to make sure you're paying attention during an emergency.

"Hey, guys? I've been on flights numbering in the triple digits. Exits in the front and back, follow the lights, put on your own mask before assisting others, the bag won't inflate all the way, buckle the seatbelt. Can I continue writing now?"


This
Plus my nearest exit will quite possibly the be gaping hole that was ripped in the fuselage during the crash.
Not much point trying to guess exactly where that will be ahead of time now is there?

Not to mention that during an emergency I won't be able to hear anything anyway since no doubt most people on the plane will degenerate into hysterical screaming.

Also: If an ipad prevents me from noticing an emergency... it's probably not that much of an emergency
 
2012-03-08 06:18:26 PM

Dr. Whoof: here to help: Yes... I did know that. I'm not sure what you are insinuating. Frankly I don't see why they don't allow us chronic smokers to sneak in one or two over the course of a flight in the cans. They're well ventilated and isolated. But it's their rules so I'll suffer in silence... like an adult.

Or, you could lobby to get the rules changed. Like an adult.


To get smoking allowed on planes again?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I think I'd have more success perfecting a method of producing gold nuggets from my butt.
 
2012-03-08 06:19:08 PM

Dr. Whoof: here to help: Yes... I did know that. I'm not sure what you are insinuating. Frankly I don't see why they don't allow us chronic smokers to sneak in one or two over the course of a flight in the cans. They're well ventilated and isolated. But it's their rules so I'll suffer in silence... like an adult.

Or, you could lobby to get the rules changed. Like an adult.


Much as I would also like to see it changed, I am aware that the "pro-smoking" lobby is a very small (probably non-existent) lobby.
 
2012-03-08 06:20:32 PM

basemetal: It doesn't matter what the reason is. If you want to change the rule, the plane is not the place to do it. Turn the damn thing off when they ask you, you whiny, petulant, piece of entitled, shiat.


I do. Every time. At least when I don't forget that I happen to have an active device on my person, which does happen from time to time. I certainly never raise a fuss when a flight attendant tells me to turn something off. That's just common courtesy.

That doesn't alter the fact that we've got a rule that's intended to address a risk that doesn't seem to have any empirical basis. If a rule is stupid, it should be called stupid. Yes, the debate shouldn't be happening in the cabin when the poor attendants are just doing their damned job, but it should be happening somewhere, don't you think?
 
2012-03-08 06:21:04 PM

here to help: Dr. Whoof: here to help: Yes... I did know that. I'm not sure what you are insinuating. Frankly I don't see why they don't allow us chronic smokers to sneak in one or two over the course of a flight in the cans. They're well ventilated and isolated. But it's their rules so I'll suffer in silence... like an adult.

Or, you could lobby to get the rules changed. Like an adult.

To get smoking allowed on planes again?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I think I'd have more success perfecting a method of producing gold nuggets from my butt.


It's YOUR hypothetical, moron.
 
2012-03-08 06:23:10 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: And your point seems to make sense until you remember how loudly many people talk into their cell phones.


No louder than a group of buzzed/drunk people. Or crying children. Or old people. If you can't tolerate the somewhat elevated voice of someone on a cell phone, how on earth do you manage to be in public areas with other people? Hell, how do you tolerate the gates?

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Like others, I'm amazed at how many people can't go any amount of time without their electronic pacifier, and how many throw a virtual fit (or an actual fit when they're on an airplane) at being asked to turn it off for even a brief amount of time.


Like others, I'm amazed at how many people completely miss the point of the complaints, and just right to "They must be inferior to me, and my awesome abilities to obey any arbitrary rule without question".
 
2012-03-08 06:26:25 PM

here to help: There is absolutely no talking to you about this. Over the years I've found you to be a humorous, intelligent and reasonable individual but as soon as this topic comes up you start frothing like a rabid badger.


Not agreeing with you /= frothing. I'm not angry about it at all. Mildly annoyed is as far as I take it.

here to help: You'll get over it... or have a heart attack.


I won't get over it, because it's retarded. I won't have a heart attack over it either, because it's not important enough to me to get that worked up over it.
 
2012-03-08 06:28:37 PM
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Left satisfied.
 
2012-03-08 06:29:15 PM
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2012-03-08 06:31:59 PM

Dr. Whoof: here to help: Dr. Whoof: here to help: Yes... I did know that. I'm not sure what you are insinuating. Frankly I don't see why they don't allow us chronic smokers to sneak in one or two over the course of a flight in the cans. They're well ventilated and isolated. But it's their rules so I'll suffer in silence... like an adult.

Or, you could lobby to get the rules changed. Like an adult.

To get smoking allowed on planes again?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I think I'd have more success perfecting a method of producing gold nuggets from my butt.

It's YOUR hypothetical, moron.


What the hell is your point here? I said I wish they allowed me to smoke on flights (and many other places for that matter) but I know that ain't gonna happen so I suck it up and deal with it.
 
2012-03-08 06:33:27 PM

here to help: If I was giving you a ride somewhere and asked you to not change the radio station, root around in my glove compartment or aggressively play with your ballsack during the trip would you do it anyway? It's not hurting me or my car but it's MY friggen' car. You want to do that sh*t, get your own car.


What if i hired you as a limo driver? if i want to roll my privacy window up and have at my ball sack and radio knobs then im damn well entitled to.

When your makeing rules for children its ok to not give reasons for the rule.

here to help: Frankly I think if people keep behaving like this the airlines should just not allow devices on the plane at all. Wanna behave like bratty, insolent children? Well then you get treated like bratty, insolent children.


Sorry -- when people ask you to follow rules without reason your already being treated like a child.

next time you fly leave your device on and just set it aside. Your plane will still take off.

\I have been threatened with arrest in the air... Don't argue with a stewardess even if you are in the right and getting piss poor customer service. Passive aggressive is the way to go.
\\The arrest thing was sooo dumb -- continental has to be the shiattiest business ever.
\\\Fly westjet if you can -- i have NEVER had a bad experience flying with them.
 
2012-03-08 06:38:40 PM

mikefinch: What if i hired you as a limo driver? if i want to roll my privacy window up and have at my ball sack and radio knobs then im damn well entitled to.

When your makeing rules for children its ok to not give reasons for the rule.


Hiring a limo would be more akin to chartering a private jet. Commercial flights are more like taking a bus or a taxi so your point is invalid.

mikefinch: Sorry -- when people ask you to follow rules without reason your already being treated like a child.


But there ARE reasons. They are still studying the effects all these device running at once can cause and there are crashes that they suspect may have been due to electronic interference. They are erring on the side of caution and those of us who aren't whackadoodle wannabe libertarians with mixed up priorities are thankful that they are.

Your rights end at my nose.
 
2012-03-08 06:41:05 PM

wonkable: For the love of god, not another one of these. Simple fact, you phone will not work above 3,000 feet. I have intentionally left it on flying VFR, and looked at it in cruise. No signal. Also left it on accidentally on an airliner, and guess what... NO SIGNAL. The reason it's not legal is that it simply won't work, so no sense changing the rules.

As far as devices in airplane mode, the FAA says no, so therefore no. It might make sense to some fed somewhere, but simply put, the crew must follow the rules. Don't complain to us, we didn't make the rules. Call the FAA, maybe if enough of you do, then the stupid rule will be changed


What about my ipod? An old school nano style one? -- i was asked to turn mine off.

It has a little cystal display and headphones and it plays music. Its more than just phones -- ALL electronics. Doesnt seem to matter if its a walkman, or an ipod, or a phone. -- And that makes me wonder -- if i brought an old cassette walkman on a plane could i listen to it? imean its playing off a magnetic tape, so there is NO way it could affect anything on the plane right?

It cant just be about the cell reception because I have been asked to turn off things that obviously need no connection.
 
2012-03-08 06:41:17 PM

mikefinch: Don't argue with a stewardess even if you are in the right


This is something I don't do. If I seem a little more extreme than I say I am, it's because this is the only place I biatch (about this particular subject). Same with protesting getting pulled over, if you feel you are in the right you should definitely make your opinion heard. In court. On the side of the road/at 30K ft is not the time or place to complain. It can only make your situation worse.
 
2012-03-08 06:42:20 PM

MadCat: The one argument in the whole debate (not just this thread) that I somewhat buy is that leaving cellphones on in low altitude flight may cause issues with the transmission towers for cell signals as the aircraft quickly moves from cell to cell. Enough phones left on in the air, moving that quickly could conceivably crash the switching system.

/I still turn mine off though
//Because I agreed to turn it off when I bought the ticket
///Contractual obligations are contractual obligations whether you like them or not


I'm hoping that people don't have a problem with the cell phone not being used while the plane is actually in the air. I mostly want to use it when I'm sitting on the tarmac. And electronic devices that don't use cellular anytime.
 
2012-03-08 06:42:45 PM
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2012-03-08 06:43:25 PM

here to help: But there ARE reasons.


The ones given by the airlines are obvious BS, worse than "because I said so". If you lie to my face, I'm going to ignore you.
 
2012-03-08 06:48:23 PM

basemetal: Just turn the damned thing off, you'll survive. I swear if you delay my flight and make me miss my connecting flight the passengers and I will beat you within an inch of your life and tell the media you made a try at the cockpit door.

/turn it off
//you aren't that farking important.


So apparently, being a total pussy is the new Internet Toughguy. Here's an idea: instead of bending over and pulling your buttcheeks apart for every moronic, outdated, luddite, and completely idiotic breach of your personal freedom that someone tries to shove down your throat, try growing some balls. Or to paraphrase you: "Stand up for yourself, coward. I swear, if you reduce the general amount of common sense and encourage the TSA to keep scanning people's shoes, I will beat you within an inch of your life, and tell the media that I mistook you for a pathetic, whining, yellowbellied, self-aborbed churl who sold out his entire species because he didn't have the guts to say "this is wrong".
 
2012-03-08 06:50:25 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: here to help: But there ARE reasons.

The ones given by the airlines are obvious BS, worse than "because I said so". If you lie to my face, I'm going to ignore you.


We went through this the last time. I'm not sure if it was mention here yet as I showed up late to the thread but the concern isn't a few devices being used it's EVERYONE ON THE PLANE using them all at once during critical stages in the flight. All these devices on planes are a relatively new phenomena. They just don't know what might happen and frankly YOUR convenience does not outweigh the safety of everyone else on the plane.

It's ten minutes at the start and end of a flight. Turn the damned things off.

Yeesh.
 
2012-03-08 06:50:56 PM

here to help: But there ARE reasons. They are still studying the effects all these device running at once can cause and there are crashes that they suspect may have been due to electronic interference. They are erring on the side of caution and those of us who aren't whackadoodle wannabe libertarians with mixed up priorities are thankful that they are.

Your rights end at my nose.



So Its like an atheist who reads the bible just to be safe? Erring on the side of caution?

I err on the side of caution when it comes to vampires -- i always make my kids carry garlic in their pockets because VAMPIRES!!! Vampires may have never shown up before but damnit im erring on the side of caution and damnit my kids are going to walk around with garlic in their pockets all day because im the boss and i make the rules.

here to help: Hiring a limo would be more akin to chartering a private jet. Commercial flights are more like taking a bus or a taxi so your point is invalid.


Still a valid point. You arent in contact with your driver and the ride commonly comes with an amenity or two so its more like a limo.
 
2012-03-08 06:52:27 PM
Ugh... why did I even come in here. I KNEW it was just gonna be the same boring derpfest as every other time we have this discussion.
 
2012-03-08 06:56:57 PM

here to help: Ugh... why did I even come in here. I KNEW it was just gonna be the same boring derpfest as every other time we have this discussion.


And,

I repeat:

"We tend to attack ourselves in others."
 
2012-03-08 06:56:59 PM

mikefinch: So Its like an atheist who reads the bible just to be safe? Erring on the side of caution?

I err on the side of caution when it comes to vampires -- i always make my kids carry garlic in their pockets because VAMPIRES!!! Vampires may have never shown up before but damnit im erring on the side of caution and damnit my kids are going to walk around with garlic in their pockets all day because im the boss and i make the rules.


No, it's more like the FDA doing extensive testing on new drugs to make sure they are reasonably safe before allowing it into the general public so we don't end up with another thalidomide fiasco.

mikefinch: Still a valid point. You arent in contact with your driver and the ride commonly comes with an amenity or two so its more like a limo.


No, it's not. In fact I take back my taxi analogy because there aren't a bunch of other people being point at unnecessary risk because of your self absorbed gluttony.
 
2012-03-08 06:59:39 PM

InfamousBLT: GUYS. LOOK. They are asking you to turn off your electronic devices for maybe 15 minutes a flight. HOW IS THIS A BIG DEAL?


If it's not a big deal, why are they doing it?

Here's why it's "a big deal". In the 90's, my coworkers and I used to fly around 40 days a year. Then the endless horseshiat with the TSA swung into effect, and the mewling assholes of the world started whining that "you don't have the intrinsic right to fly." Well, fine. Hey, if by mutual cowardice we've decided that we'd rather shrivel up and die than face the endless horrors of being a rational adult, then great. Let's dissolve like a slug in a bowel of salt. And so we have. I haven't been on anything other than a private, corporate jet for a decade now. Thankfully, I'm in a situation where I can do that, if I want. But guess who's NOT going- the literally dozens of support team members that used to go to trade shows and the like with Management. As people started refusing to fly, businesses began to shrink, until finally we're left with the pitiful shell of an economy that we have today.

Hey, congratulations, jackasses. Because one guy failed to blow up a plain with his shoes, and another failed to blow up a plane with his underwear, and a third failed to blow up a plane with shampoo, we all get to watch our economy tank because people would rather just not bother with the moronic, futile, pointless hassle of air travel. But hey, the really STUPID among you can rest safe at night, knowing that you proved your point that "there is no Right to Fly".

Seriously though, I have no idea what point those kind of people were trying to make. It's not like they ever looked like anything other than sniveling, ignorant cowards, and yet we let them screw everything up for the rest of us.
 
2012-03-08 07:01:15 PM

here to help: We went through this the last time. I'm not sure if it was mention here yet as I showed up late to the thread but the concern isn't a few devices being used it's EVERYONE ON THE PLANE using them all at once during critical stages in the flight. All these devices on planes are a relatively new phenomena. They just don't know what might happen and frankly YOUR convenience does not outweigh the safety of everyone else on the plane.


If it's really about safety, why are they allowed on the plane at all? Again, any other miniscule risk is stopped (or they at least attempt to stop them) before you can even get to the gate. The whole 'binary liquid explosive' has been pretty much disproven* by people who know what the hell they are talking about, yet you still can't take more than 3oz through the gate. Yet you expect me to believe that there is a greater risk than that from electronics, but they enforce it by yelling at only the most egregious of offenders? It doesn't add up. At all.

*Yes, they exist, but they likelihood of anyone being able to pull off combining them on an aircraft is juuuuuuuuust this side of possible, and lower than pretty much every other risk
 
2012-03-08 07:03:40 PM

here to help: Ugh... why did I even come in here. I KNEW it was just gonna be the same boring derpfest as every other time we have this discussion.


Because you're heretohelp?

I love these threads because there is a payoff if you read all the posts. Usually someone will post an article that clears up some confusion, like downtownkid: did with this one.
Link (new window)
If you read the whole thread you see it, and it becomes that much more funny to watch everyone argue about the topic.
 
2012-03-08 07:04:30 PM

here to help: it's EVERYONE ON THE PLANE using them all at once during critical stages in the flight.


WHICH STILL WOULDN'T DO JACK shiat. Do you have any idea at all how modern electronics are calibrated and insulated? They're literally made to take a lightning strike, and use channels and frequencies that are completely unique to air travel. You could have every iPhone in New York stuffed in one playing "angry birds", and it couldn't possibly do jack shiat to the airplane.

Seriously, why are you people searching so desperately for a "reason", when you know there isn't one? Seriously, some of you would have given Mussolini a standing ovation, and asked him to do a encore on the harmonica.
 
2012-03-08 07:05:55 PM
When someone shows me how my phone can interfere with the plane's operation I'll turn the thing off.

Until then I'm fighting the man.
 
2012-03-08 07:06:02 PM

Mavent: encore on the harmonica.


You say that like it's a bad thing, but you know as well as I do that we'd all watch that.
 
2012-03-08 07:06:46 PM

WhoIsWillo: [screenmusings.net image 640x480]


Came here to say this, leaving happy.

/miss the West Wing. Glad it left while it was still good, but dammit.
 
2012-03-08 07:10:07 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: MadCat: The one argument in the whole debate (not just this thread) that I somewhat buy is that leaving cellphones on in low altitude flight may cause issues with the transmission towers for cell signals as the aircraft quickly moves from cell to cell. Enough phones left on in the air, moving that quickly could conceivably crash the switching system.

/I still turn mine off though
//Because I agreed to turn it off when I bought the ticket
///Contractual obligations are contractual obligations whether you like them or not

I'm hoping that people don't have a problem with the cell phone not being used while the plane is actually in the air. I mostly want to use it when I'm sitting on the tarmac. And electronic devices that don't use cellular anytime.


That's been allowed on every flight I've been on in the last few years. The captain generally even makes an announcement to the effect of "We're on the ground now, you can go ahead and use your cell phones to arrange rides but please remain seated until the aircraft arrives at the gate"
 
2012-03-08 07:10:11 PM

Oznog: For the record, the worst non-terrorism-related air disaster in history was partially caused by radio interference. It killed 583 people.


If your story is to be believed, it was caused by "gross over-reaction to completely imaginary bomb threats", not "radio interference." Hey, imagine they'd had balls, instead of shrieking "OMG, someone said the word BOMB! MOVE EVERY AIRPLANE IN THE COUNTRY TO ONE TINY AIRPORT, and then ORDER THEM AROUND HAPHAZARDLY!"

There'd be 583 people alive today that aren't.
 
2012-03-08 07:12:26 PM

Corvus: Not this thread again. The reason is not they think you can take the plane down. The main reason is so everyone is concentrating on the dangerous part of the flight, there are not a lot of items that would bash people on the head out, and people can hear any emergency announcements if needed.


That's a pretty weak excuse.
 
2012-03-08 07:14:39 PM

basemetal: Just turn the damned thing off, you'll survive. I swear if you delay my flight and make me miss my connecting flight the passengers and I will beat you within an inch of your life and tell the media you made a try at the cockpit door.

/turn it off
//you aren't that farking important.


Blind obedience to authority without even so much as questioning the policy behind it? As long as it benefits you?

Man if I had a concentration camp I would totally hire you!

Fun fact, the important systems are hydraulic, not electronic.
 
2012-03-08 07:14:45 PM
Can't read all this crap. Lemme guess - full of comments from self-important "I know better than you Nyah Nyah" folks who are shouting "You're not the boss of me, you Nazis!"

Right. I thought so.

SIt down, do what you're told for ten farking minutes, and shut the fark up. It's not about you.
 
2012-03-08 07:17:56 PM

Jake Havechek: wing


unrealitymag.com

it's not there...it's not there
 
2012-03-08 07:19:22 PM

Indubitably: Dr. Whoof: Indubitably: Dr. Whoof:

<snip>
Here's where I'm at:

Figurative language and poeticism is sometimes intermixed with "regular" discourse at will, much like employment in the public sector, and people are forced to think and/or discern. Sometimes they are unsuccessful...

;)


Favorited.
 
2012-03-08 07:19:41 PM

basemetal: Just turn the damned thing off, you'll survive. I swear if you delay my flight and make me miss my connecting flight the passengers and I will beat you within an inch of your life and tell the media you made a try at the cockpit door.

/turn it off
//you aren't that farking important.


Great, now even the telecommunications industry has death panels.
 
2012-03-08 07:32:16 PM

Dr. Whoof: sprawl15: That's the point. All electronic device usage is banned from planes, by default. Airlines just happen to be allowed to waive these rules.

If you can waive the rules, they can't be all that terribly important, now can they?


If a pilot wants to allow certain devices, any problems that result from the use of those devices is on the shoulders of the pilot (or company, in the case of the airlines). Airlines don't want that risk. If they saw no risk, they could simply write up a quick memo and allow them all the time.

Dr. Whoof: If it were a credible threat, you would not be allowed to even bring the devices on board. As others have mentioned, they make you get rid of your water bottle, but not your cell phone.


Irrelevant. It's the operation of the devices, not the existence of the devices, that could potentially be dangerous. The existence of magical muslin explosive fake halal water is a danger in and of itself regardless of its use.

Dr. Whoof: The correct way to do it is to take your complaint to the FCC, FAA and the airlines and try to get like minded people to stand with you on it.


The FCC only states you can't use your cell phone on planes because it causes all kinds of havoc with the cell phone infrastructure. The FAA already took its hands off the issue by allowing airlines to waive it.
 
2012-03-08 07:35:59 PM
I see people repeating the same spiel over and over from the commentors saying stuff like they want you focused for take off and landing, take off and landings is were bad stuff happens so they want you focused.

Are you guys stupid as shiat, I sleep through that and not once have they ever been like, "Sir, we you need you focused, we are landing" No, I farking sleep right through it and they don't say anything.

The second thing I see cropping up heavily in the comments is the fact that you are riding in their plane so just shut the fark up and do what they say. The OMG it is only 10 mins I think you will survive you big babies.

A lot of you are missing the point. I always follow the rules, I turn my shiat off before I am seated and begin sleepy times. If i find myself awake during the flight I may use my device and when landing I turn it back off.

So yeah, I follow the rules, but I can still biatch that it is a stupid rule and question why they even bother. I understand that I don't own the plane and I do comply, but that doesn't mean their policies aren't retarded.

That would be like your work making you park a ten minute walk away when there are empty parking spaces right by the door. Then when you question what is up with the empty spaces you have people freak out and claim that you can't walk 10 mins. Of course I can walk ten minutes but what the fark is up with those empty parking spots?
 
2012-03-08 07:43:19 PM
Airplane mode isn't what you think it is. Your typical smart phone device is participating on many different transmit/receive networks. Airplane mode (depending on the phone) does not turn off all of these radio transmitters. The GSM transmission may cease but 802.11, BlueTooth, etc. transmissions may continue. Just because a manufacturer labels a switch airplane mode doesn't mean it has any legal or technical meaning. It has not been tested and deemed airplane safe. The original purpose was to save battery life while airborne by not attempting to reconnect with the telephone network. Airplane mode was not designed to make the device unable to interfere on the RF spectrum.

On the other hand any device that is able to isolate itself from any RF activity or is not capable of RF activity should be allowed. An original Nintendo Game Boy for example has no EM/RF signature to speak of.

As for pilot iPads and on-board WiFi, you don't think they stuck those on the airplane without some manner of testing? A couple of well-tested and well-regulated devices don't bother me. I'm sure the pilot iPads have special software or at least instructions to turn the 802.11 feature off. While a single emitter is unlikely to cause a noticeable change in instruments, dozens of them might in concert. No official party seems particularly motivated to undergo the testing required to be certain that no harm is likely enough to warrant restriction.
 
2012-03-08 07:49:44 PM
Besides this thread being such an obvious market research tool for the airlines, I cannot believe that after 242 posts, not one of you FARKS have given proper kudos to subby's use of "flumox" in the headline.

+/10 subby
 
2012-03-08 07:50:43 PM
My favorite people are the ones who dont need a valid reason for obeying arbitrary rules.
 
2012-03-08 07:52:36 PM
I get free minutes to same carrier calls so I always call my answering service and leave it on the whole time.
 
2012-03-08 07:55:28 PM
My grandmother had an arrangement with a couple from China who were in the U.S. attending Cornell. They helped her around the house in exchange for free room. The guy was going to school for something tech related. He had a computer board that he'd brought with him from China that didn't conform to FCC standards. Whenever he'd turn it on my grandmother's TV would go all wonky. One minute you had a perfect picture, then the next you could barely tell what show you were watching.

So, I know the Mythbusters showed that newer phones weren't an issue, but with consumer devices that could come from any place in the world, how do you make sure every one of them is compliant? Even if every country adopted the same standard you would have to worry about cheap knockoff Sanyos and Samsings. Take-off and landing are the two parts of the flight where communication with the ground are most critical. Considering that it's only for a few minutes I think we can all afford to unplug from the Collective for a bit.

A clever terrorist might even figure out how to hack his cellphone into a jammer, although he'd probably be smart enough to keep in his pocket so people couldn't see it was on, and hopefully losing communications wouldn't be a sure enough thing for terrorists to invest their time in (since a sudden loss of communications would still be a fairly survivable situation but would probably result in an investigation that might catch the unsuccessful terrorist.)
 
2012-03-08 07:57:26 PM

InfamousBLT: My god the outrage in this thread is amazing.

GUYS. LOOK. They are asking you to turn off your electronic devices for maybe 15 minutes a flight. HOW IS THIS A BIG DEAL?

I get outraged about all sorts of things and even this doesn't bother me. Hell I'm more bothered by the fact that people are SO ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT that they whine about this.

Guys really. This is like the smallest deal possible when it comes to air travel. There are about 5000000 other things you should be complaining about first (such as TSA, crying babies, not enough carry on space, not enough leg room, uncomfortable seats, not enough restrooms, too hot, too cold, too smelly, fat guy sitting next to you, ticket prices, turbulence...this is seriously the tip of the iceberg folks). This is seriously just you whining for the sake of whining, like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum because mommy said no.

How on Earth does anyone get their panties all twisted because they have to put away their toys for 15 minutes? Jesus on a raptor you people are nuts. If you don't like it don't buy an airline ticket for chrissakes.


Then put your money where your mouth is. Your posts here on Fark oppresses people In China during the month of March. You can live without Fark for a mere month, so why not?

farking hypocrite, pun intended.
 
2012-03-08 07:59:05 PM

monstera: Besides this thread being such an obvious market research tool for the airlines, I cannot believe that after 242 posts, not one of you FARKS have given proper kudos to subby's use of "flumox" in the headline.

+/10 subby


I can't believe after the 3rd post you didn't realize that the submitter was quoting The West Wing pilot episode.
 
2012-03-08 08:03:25 PM
I don't see why everyone's so concerned about their farking iphones while I've got to get pat down like a farking criminal just to get on a plane.
 
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