mrshowrules: Bob16: mrshowrules: He looks even better based on the shadow stats. Can I assume you won't try that derp again?

BWAHAHAHAHA

Ah Einstein the chart has more than one line.

It's so convenient to have multiple unemployment rates to pick from depending on what "truth" i decide to believe in.

Which line isn't dropping this year? Which one is bad for Obama? Same question for Tenpoundsoftard.

you are funny.
seriously, seriously funny. I love when you comment on charts and numbers.

Do you think it is good for 0bama that the blue line (the one on top for your chart disabled mind) that shows, a big increase since he took office AND a huge growing delta with the red line (the one on the bottom of the chart)?

When Americans were asked recently about the most basic economic issue - if they were having trouble putting food on the table - 18.6 percent said yes, they were.
I'm mentioning that survey because tomorrow is when the Labor Department reports how many jobs the economy supposedly created in February.
Statistics, especially when only taken at their face value, tend to hide what's really going on.

You mean statistics like over 70% of people who claim they're having trouble feeding their family have one or more family members that are obese?

"When Americans were asked recently ...if they were having trouble putting food on the table - 18.6 percent said yes, they were.

That was the highest percentage since the financial crisis began four years ago."

Oh look, a right-wing jabber hole pretending like it gives a flying shiat that people have trouble putting food on the table. Tomorrow it will be back to, "Ha! Yeah right. Those people have refrigerators and TVs. End welfare! End food stamps! End unemployment! End the payroll tax cut!"

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: mrshowrules: Bob16: mrshowrules: He looks even better based on the shadow stats. Can I assume you won't try that derp again?

BWAHAHAHAHA

Ah Einstein the chart has more than one line.

It's so convenient to have multiple unemployment rates to pick from depending on what "truth" i decide to believe in.

Which line isn't dropping this year? Which one is bad for Obama? Same question for Tenpoundsoftard.

you are funny.
seriously, seriously funny. I love when you comment on charts and numbers.

Do you think it is good for 0bama that the blue line (the one on top for your chart disabled mind) that shows, a big increase since he took office AND a huge growing delta with the red line (the one on the bottom of the chart)?

Obama was sworn in January of 2009.

Yeah. What is your point?
Did you see the rise in the blue line from 2009 to 2012?

When the personhood laws finally pass (all praise be to you, whispy mustachioed tween Jesus), can we start adding fetuses to the unemployed when a Democrat is in office?

These guys are really concerned the economy is getting better if they have not taken to refuting the numbers in advance.

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: tenpoundsofcheese: mrshowrules: Bob16: mrshowrules: He looks even better based on the shadow stats. Can I assume you won't try that derp again?

BWAHAHAHAHA

Ah Einstein the chart has more than one line.

It's so convenient to have multiple unemployment rates to pick from depending on what "truth" i decide to believe in.

Which line isn't dropping this year? Which one is bad for Obama? Same question for Tenpoundsoftard.

you are funny.
seriously, seriously funny. I love when you comment on charts and numbers.

Do you think it is good for 0bama that the blue line (the one on top for your chart disabled mind) that shows, a big increase since he took office AND a huge growing delta with the red line (the one on the bottom of the chart)?

Obama was sworn in January of 2009.

Yeah. What is your point?
Did you see the rise in the blue line from 2009 to 2012?

Yeah, the "big increase" happened in 2008 since then it's been going up and down which is not shocking since the economy has been a little rough since that "big increase" you tried to pin on Obama.

are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

Also, did you notice the increase in the difference between the red and blue lines during 0bama? Cooking the books much?

tenpoundsofcheese: Did you see the rise in the blue line from 2009 to 2012?

That is actually interesting, if you look at the lines they diverge around the summer of 2009. As someone tapped into the derper conspiracy theories what are they saying? And also what are normal people saying is the cause?

Is this the thread where the people who never even heard of, let alone use, the U6 numbers prior to 2009, trust those numbers as the "real true unemployment numbers"?

I thought the point was about the lying about the numbers, with bob16 claiming that reagan and bush were cooking the numbers.

The chart shows the bigger difference between the red and blue lines under the 0bama administration.

tenpoundsofcheese: are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

This is all you really need to know about this guy to not take him seriously.

tenpoundsofcheese: I thought the point was about the lying about the numbers, with bob16 claiming that reagan and bush were cooking the numbers.

The chart shows the bigger difference between the red and blue lines under the 0bama administration.

Funny thing, the two of you belong on the same island of crazy people. None of us take either of you seriously.

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

Also, did you notice the increase in the difference between the red and blue lines during 0bama? Cooking the books much?


Yes, part time employees are counted as employed in the official numbers that is some serious book cooking.

that would be a relevant statement if the only time we part time employees was during the 0bama administration.
Look at the chart.

the ADP National Employment Report, which monitors payroll taxes to determine who just got a private-sector job, said companies created 216,000 jobs last month. That was slightly higher than the experts were predicting.

The difference between ADP and Labor's report is that ADP doesn't count government jobs.

Really, you Republican shill? You have the audacity to say that now the loss of government jobs is a bad thing? Really? After the last three years of hearing that government jobs shouldn't count and we need to scale down government and how the real jobs are in the private sector, now you're complaining that the government is cutting jobs? There are no words.

Anti_illuminati: tenpoundsofcheese: I thought the point was about the lying about the numbers, with bob16 claiming that reagan and bush were cooking the numbers.

The chart shows the bigger difference between the red and blue lines under the 0bama administration.

Funny thing, the two of you belong on the same island of crazy people. None of us take either of you seriously.

why would you take anyone seriously at a site that is about mocking news?

I know you don't like data it is all about feelings. sorry your feelings are so hurt.
I hope you get better soon.

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: tenpoundsofcheese: are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

Also, did you notice the increase in the difference between the red and blue lines during 0bama? Cooking the books much?


Yes, part time employees are counted as employed in the official numbers that is some serious book cooking.

that would be a relevant statement if the only time we had part time employees was during the 0bama administration.
Look at the chart.

"We" what?

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: tenpoundsofcheese: are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

Also, did you notice the increase in the difference between the red and blue lines during 0bama? Cooking the books much?


Yes, part time employees are counted as employed in the official numbers that is some serious book cooking.

that would be a relevant statement if the only time we part time employees was during the 0bama administration.
Look at the chart.

"We" what?

It is only relevant if we was who we is then and now, rather than just now instead of then.

Savy?

/That's the best way I can put the incoherence of the GOP/Teabagger down in words.

mrshowrules: Anti_illuminati: tenpoundsofcheese: I thought the point was about the lying about the numbers, with bob16 claiming that reagan and bush were cooking the numbers.

The chart shows the bigger difference between the red and blue lines under the 0bama administration.

Funny thing, the two of you belong on the same island of crazy people. None of us take either of you seriously.

I seriously enjoy making fun of him. Is that wrong?

No. Since you can't read charts or actually argue numbers or facts, it is the best anyone could expect you to do.

"And City Harvest is reporting the same results as the survey - people are having trouble feeding themselves. In its most recent survey last November,"

There's a woman down the street with her 4800 sf house who hits 4-5 food banks a week. "Free food is free food." Tossed out the stuff she doesn't like. Can't be bothered to take it to church. Not the general case, but not the exception.

mrshowrules: Anti_illuminati: tenpoundsofcheese: I thought the point was about the lying about the numbers, with bob16 claiming that reagan and bush were cooking the numbers.

The chart shows the bigger difference between the red and blue lines under the 0bama administration.

Funny thing, the two of you belong on the same island of crazy people. None of us take either of you seriously.

I seriously enjoy making fun of him. Is that wrong?

Oh absolutely not. Have you seen any of his comebacks? They're so terrible they're amazing.

tenpoundsofcheese: No.

Projection is fun.
May I try?

btfoom: Wendy's Chili [TotalFark]

i>What the f*ck did I just read?

The truth. I know it's hard to comprehend all of those big words unless they are spoon fed to you by MSNBC, but yes, the Obama Administration and their policies have put millions of Americans out of work and are going for more. All you have to do is pull yourself away from the NY Times and the Obama Cheerleader Network MSNBC long enough to see the reality all around you. Try it sometime (thinking for yourself).

Bad troll is bad and should feel bad.

Trolltastic headline. WNR.

Cinaed: tenpoundsofcheese: No.

Projection is fun.
May I try?

Not sure you you want my permission, but okay.
Yes, you may try.

tenpoundsofcheese: No. Since you can't read charts or actually argue numbers or facts, it is the best anyone could expect you to do.

can you get past telling people to read the chart and explain or link to an explanation of the diverging lines?

tenpoundsofcheese: Not sure you you want my permission, but okay.

I ask because you're clearly a master at putting your own intellectual failings at the feet of others.

Ol' Phil would be proud.

James!: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: tenpoundsofcheese: are you really myshowrules? or just another person who can't read a chart?
"big increase" for 0bama is from 2009 to 2012.
He has had 3 years and all he gave us was an increase.

Also, did you notice the increase in the difference between the red and blue lines during 0bama? Cooking the books much?


Yes, part time employees are counted as employed in the official numbers that is some serious book cooking.

that would be a relevant statement if the only time we had part time employees was during the 0bama administration.
Look at the chart.

"We" what?

Uh... I don't think you understand what we're all talking about. The red line is people who can work, want to work but don't have jobs. The gray line is can work, want to work but don't have stable full time employment. The blue line includes people who aren't even looking for work which is a number that the government hasn't bothered with in almost 20 years so I have to suspect that Shadowstats is pulling it out of their asses.

I understand.
And you understand why the gap between the gray and red line is the biggest its has been, right?
and you understand why the gap between the blue vs. the red line is the highest it has been and growing, right?

Corvus: Scerpes: DarwiOdrade: Scerpes: I have no doubt that someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there people who should be moving into the workforce to replace them? Our population has continued to grow since the birth of the baby boomer generation.

Some, but not enough to cover the losses. Birth-rate graph with the baby boom in blue:

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Interesting. Thanks!

You ever think about checking your "facts" before stating they are true and then people correcting you?

You really are an obnoxious coont.

I cited actual facts, asked an honest question about why that was the case, in light of other facts presented (which I acknowledged I presumed were true), and have accepted the answer.

The conversation had absolutely nothing to do with you, and yet you felt it necessary to interject yourself. Even when you're right, unlike today, you're absolutely nasty about it. You're a terribly hateful person. Get over yourself.

Cinaed: tenpoundsofcheese: Not sure you you want my permission, but okay.

I ask because you're clearly a master at putting your own intellectual failings at the feet of others.



No, the reason you ask is that you make things up and are too weak to understand facts much less their implications.