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2012-03-08 07:14:28 AM

Mr.Tangent: I don't see how thinking 'slut shaming' is wrong is the wrong approach to the problem is the same as being ok with an 8th grader being pregnant.


Where, besides the headline, is slut shaming mentioned?

That's my best interpretation of what the hell you just said.

Mearen: We're not, so ignore the morons that think it's ok.


A large portion of this thread did not even touch that fact. Was what they did wrong? Yes of course, humiliating a child is never right. Was it "slut shaming"? F*ck no, everyone knows you can get pregnant from the first time you have sex. Could she be an example of why you should either at least wait till you're older before having sex or at least f*cking wrap that sh*t up? Yes.
 
2012-03-08 07:14:54 AM

Spike123: Well you are still arguing for the abortion of an already-born baby, so I would be more worried about being a stupid asshole than whether or not some random Fark poster is happy or not. Remind me again why you're still talking?


Maybe you should try to understand discussions before you enter them. This discussion is centered around the availability of abortion to American women, not a particular abortion. But then, how could you feign outrage if you actually knew what was going on? Oh, and go fark yourself, you self-important dickbag. I'm still talking because thankfully you aren't in charge of who gets to talk.
 
2012-03-08 07:15:50 AM

Spike123: It's a shiatty situation all around but ya know what you do with people who are going through a hard time? You support them and do what you can to make things easier.


Where's the fun in that?
 
2012-03-08 07:19:15 AM

untaken_name: Spike123: Well you are still arguing for the abortion of an already-born baby, so I would be more worried about being a stupid asshole than whether or not some random Fark poster is happy or not. Remind me again why you're still talking?

Maybe you should try to understand discussions before you enter them. This discussion is centered around the availability of abortion to American women, not a particular abortion. But then, how could you feign outrage if you actually knew what was going on? Oh, and go fark yourself, you self-important dickbag. I'm still talking because thankfully you aren't in charge of who gets to talk.


No, the discussion is centered around a person who didn't choose to abort the baby in the first place so your whole abortion discussion is worthless and, in this case, insulting. Wanna try again?
 
2012-03-08 07:33:39 AM

MBK: Remember, if you ban birth control or make it more difficult to obtain, everyone will stop having sex until they are married.


THIS.

Calmamity: lohphat: Regressive Puritans want the 1600's back.

Except that the Puritans were total fu*k machines, just like the rest of us pleasure-driven mammals. They actually had pretty ambivalent attitudes about sex before marriage, fu*king in public and the like.

The Regressive Puritans want a place back that never existed. They want Father Knows Best.


Also, THIS.
 
2012-03-08 07:52:27 AM

CrispFlows: Spike123: ya know what you do with people who are going through a hard time? You support them and do what you can to make things easier. You don't sit there and laugh or make fun of them or say they should go through another potentially traumatic experience to mitigate their current situation. That's the kind of thing a complete piece of barely-sentient shiat does, not a real human being.

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2012-03-08 07:52:30 AM

Spike123: untaken_name: Spike123: Well you are still arguing for the abortion of an already-born baby, so I would be more worried about being a stupid asshole than whether or not some random Fark poster is happy or not. Remind me again why you're still talking?

Maybe you should try to understand discussions before you enter them. This discussion is centered around the availability of abortion to American women, not a particular abortion. But then, how could you feign outrage if you actually knew what was going on? Oh, and go fark yourself, you self-important dickbag. I'm still talking because thankfully you aren't in charge of who gets to talk.

No, the discussion is centered around a person who didn't choose to abort the baby in the first place so your whole abortion discussion is worthless and, in this case, insulting. Wanna try again?


Well, of course he wants to try again. But you are pretty much handling a piece of toad sh*t by dealing with this miserable c*nt. He won't have anything.
 
2012-03-08 07:54:23 AM
I think we should give all Female students $3000/yr, so this will never happen again!!
 
2012-03-08 07:58:04 AM

Frostie1: I think we should give all Female students $3000/yr, so this will never happen again!!


...what? I'm aware that's probably sarcasm but I have no idea what the contrary viewpoint it's meant to be supporting is.
 
2012-03-08 08:10:17 AM

Bathia_Mapes:
There have been Native American boarding schools since the 19th century.


I hope everyone notes that all the "Right to life" republicans, who are concerned for the chillun in Israel, and Syria, who want to Bomb Iran, who claim to care about life, and freedom, have said fark all about our domestic concentration camps. They'll be the first to whip out trillions in aid for Israel, to "prevent another holocaust" but when it comes to the treatment of Natives who have been surviving the ongoing american holocaust, they will point their greasy fat, white fingers at a few "casino-rich" injuns and say, they got theirs. Saying nothing about the kids on reservations that have no electricity, or running water.
Principal ought to have a date with 4 stakes, some fresh sinew, and a fire ant mound.
 
2012-03-08 08:18:23 AM
The school admins were in the wrong for kicking her out. There is no question about that...

Yeah, they were total dicks for calling her out in front of the rest of the student body...but...if I may offer preservative here...

FTFA: "It was so embarrassing to have all the other kids staring at me as I walked into the gymnasium," said Hicks, according to KOB. "I didn't want the whole school to know I was pregnant because it's not their business, and it wasn't right for my teachers to single me out."

Ummm...sweetie, look...your school administrators were jerks, no questions...but you know that once you get pregnant and as babby is formed, you will start to show signs of pregnancy - your tummy will get bigger! Furthermore, there was a strong likelihood that a portion of your peers already knew, as gossip spreads very quickly...

Good for her getting the ACLU on her side and getting the ball rolling on a lawsuit. But acting victimized by getting called out and calling it "embarrassing" is a bit of a stretch. She is (was) pregnant, shes gonna show...enough said.
 
2012-03-08 08:26:51 AM

moonage daydream: SubBass49: Oh...and...15 year-old 8th grader? shiat...I was 17 when I entered college...and I wasn't some great student or anything...

Clearly you weren't, because you failed to realize the baby is now about two or three years old....


Was it in TFA? No? Then shuddafrkkup.
 
2012-03-08 08:28:56 AM

thenateman: The Ghost of Tom Ace: thenateman: AbbeySomeone: /miss green chilie

FTFY. And here's some green chile pron.

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Damn you...
Are you familiar with this?

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Damn you...

I love the Blake's green chile cheeseburger. I can only hope I'm idealizing it, but Blake's has my favorite fast food ever.

Ever had a stuffed sopapilla from Genaro's in Gallup?

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CSB time...

My wife and I used to live in Albuquerque. During that time, the guy who founded that chain passed away (Blake Chanslor). Being dirt poor grad students, my wife and I were avid thrift-store shoppers. One day at Thrifttown (yes, really) we walked in to find a huge section of ridiculously-nice-but-tacky furniture, including a pair of enormous lamps with nekkid cupids hanging off of them, most of it exactly the kind of tacky that burquenos love. According to the employees, Chanslor's estate donated a bunch of stuff. We ended up passing on the lamps, but are the proud owners of Blake's baby-blue stereo cabinet.

\if you can believe the ThriftTown employees, of course.
\\not sure why they'd lie...
 
2012-03-08 08:29:54 AM

Endive Wombat: But acting victimized by getting called out and calling it "embarrassing" is a bit of a stretc


SO I can knock up an 8th grader and no one is going to call her a "victim?"
Good to know.
 
2012-03-08 08:30:03 AM

gerrymander: Runs_With_Scissors_: Do they kick out guys who have a babby out of wedlock?

Probably unnecessary. The kinds of guys who would impregnate a 15-year-old eight-grader are usually the the ones who dropped out as high school sophomores, as soon as they turned 21.


I think a bigger problem is that we have 15 year old 8th graders. This is the second one I've heard of this year. One got prego then other shot up his school... I think.
 
2012-03-08 08:46:42 AM
pretty sure people would have figured this out eventually. FTA blocked at work but i see TFA headline.
 
2012-03-08 08:47:02 AM

cman: I wouldn't go that far. I doubt Christians would execute veiled women in a soccer field for adultery


Yet.
 
2012-03-08 08:49:41 AM

MBK: Remember, if you ban birth control or make it more difficult to obtain, everyone will stop having sex until they are married.


Kind of a straw man argument, isn't it?
 
2012-03-08 08:51:14 AM

Tat'dGreaser: I don't understand how we're supposed to be perfectly ok with an 8th grader getting pregnant.


We aren't supposed to be. But kicking her out of school and turning the entire school population against her most definitely is further from the correct choice.
 
2012-03-08 08:55:28 AM

MBK: Remember, if you ban birth control or make it more difficult to obtain, everyone will stop having sex until they are married.


I know Santorum says states should have the right to ban birth control, but I don't think anyone is actually trying to do so.

Regardless, that's not what this story is about. This is about a public school invading the private life of one of its students. the administrators who did this should be fired.

 
2012-03-08 09:02:19 AM

tomWright: CrispFlows: Spike123: ya know what you do with people who are going through a hard time? You support them and do what you can to make things easier. You don't sit there and laugh or make fun of them or say they should go through another potentially traumatic experience to mitigate their current situation. That's the kind of thing a complete piece of barely-sentient shiat does, not a real human being.

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Both of you


I have no delusions about polishing these turds into something I'd wanna drink with, I just thought the whole "hey let's not be assholes" thing might deserve a spot in the conversation. Didn't think it'd actually do much though, I know where I'm posting.
 
2012-03-08 09:07:32 AM
So why are they not prosecuting for statutory rape?
 
2012-03-08 09:09:01 AM

AbbeySomeone: serpent_sky: namegoeshere: Pregnancy is a medical condition. Congrats on violating HIPPA, school director.

At least the way too young mother will have money to take care of her child when she wins the lawsuit, or the ACLU makes sure they settle out of court for a handsome sum.

It's not a HIPPA issue, in this case, but if you read the article, it's "violation of constitutional rights to equal protection and of the Title IX prohibition against sex and pregnancy discrimination in education."

Added bonus is that she is native in NM.
This situation is pathetic all around. Girls that age should not be having sex and in no way are ready to bear the burden of a child.
The principle may have attempted to use her as an example of what should not happen. If he is white he will be crucified; if he is native it will be another story.


Well I don't know about that. I had sex for the first time when I was 15 with my bf of the time. Yes I was young, but I was lucky enough to have received a very through and comprehensive sex education and I felt that I was able to make an informed decision. We used two kinds of protection and talked about the plan at great length.
I relalize I am probably the exception to the rule, but it's unfair to assume that all 15 year olds are too immature for sex. I look back on that day now and I can safely say I have zero regrets. We were smart and safe about it and we suffered no ill effects.
 
2012-03-08 09:15:07 AM

lackadaisicalfreakshow: So why are they not prosecuting for statutory rape?


My first guess would be "the father isn't old enough".
 
2012-03-08 09:18:03 AM

thenateman: The Ghost of Tom Ace: thenateman: AbbeySomeone: /miss green chilie

FTFY. And here's some green chile pron.

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Damn you...
Are you familiar with this?

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Damn you...

I love the Blake's green chile cheeseburger. I can only hope I'm idealizing it, but Blake's has my favorite fast food ever.

Ever had a stuffed sopapilla from Genaro's in Gallup?

[www.mytravelguide.com image 390x293]
This one served Christmas




This is why I love Fark. I open a thread expecting a lot of hurr durr political banter, and I stumble across some delicious green chili places.

Well done.
 
2012-03-08 09:21:01 AM
That school staff is beyond farked. They probably have no idea.
 
2012-03-08 09:30:42 AM

vudukungfu: Endive Wombat: But acting victimized by getting called out and calling it "embarrassing" is a bit of a stretc

SO I can knock up an 8th grader and no one is going to call her a "victim?"
Good to know.


Yup. An adult banging a child is exactly what I was talking about here.

Nowhere in the article does it mention who she had sex with, but I am going to imagine if it was rape, it would have been in the article, because not only is calling the kid out a dick thing to do...if she was a pregnant rape victim, the behavior of the administrators would be even more inflammatory.
 
2012-03-08 09:30:45 AM
I don't suppose getting pregnant herself has anything to do with her embarrassing situation.
No, my bad. It's just mean adults.
 
2012-03-08 09:34:47 AM

Runs_With_Scissors_: gerrymander: Runs_With_Scissors_: Do they kick out guys who have a babby out of wedlock?

Probably unnecessary. The kinds of guys who would impregnate a 15-year-old eight-grader are usually the the ones who dropped out as high school sophomores, as soon as they turned 21.

I figured as much on that part.

I'm referring to the guys who knocked up someone - anyone - out of wedlock. Were they kicked out?


Unless the girl was raped, all she had to do was say, "no."

/sorry ladies, you bear the majority of the responsibility here because you bear the consequences. Nature isn't fair.
 
2012-03-08 09:37:55 AM

doubled99: I don't suppose getting pregnant herself has anything to do with her embarrassing situation.
No, my bad. It's just mean adults.


Basically what I said above...
 
2012-03-08 09:46:14 AM

tomWright: CrispFlows: Spike123: ya know what you do with people who are going through a hard time? You support them and do what you can to make things easier. You don't sit there and laugh or make fun of them or say they should go through another potentially traumatic experience to mitigate their current situation. That's the kind of thing a complete piece of barely-sentient shiat does, not a real human being.

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Both of you


Are you referring to Fark or the real world?
 
2012-03-08 09:47:05 AM

CliChe Guevara: Which one has been around trying to destroy the other in holy wars since at least the crusades? Which one habitually had state religions for most of two millenia? Which one had purges, pogroms, crusades, and inquisitions regularly?


The war between Christan Europe and Muslim Africa/Asia was 384 years old at the time of the first Crusade, itself 85 years after the Muslims closed the holy lands to Christian pilgrims. The Spaniards fought the Moorish jihad for 780 years.
 
2012-03-08 09:49:24 AM
FARK Historians/lawyer types:

Since the girl in the article is Native American and she lives on a reservation, due to treaties with Native Americans on tribal land, would she be protected under the US constitution/US law?
 
2012-03-08 10:00:16 AM
Has she gotten her own TV show yet?

(BTW--total dick move by the school.)
 
2012-03-08 10:10:45 AM

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "It was so embarrassing to have all the other kids staring at me as I walked into the gymnasium," said Hicks, according to KOB. "I didn't want the whole school to know I was pregnant because it's not their business, and it wasn't right for my teachers to single me out."

Ummm...sweetie, look...your school administrators were jerks, no questions...but you know that once you get pregnant and as babby is formed, you will start to show signs of pregnancy - your tummy will get bigger! Furthermore, there was a strong likelihood that a portion of your peers already knew, as gossip spreads very quickly...

Good for her getting the ACLU on her side and getting the ball rolling on a lawsuit. But acting victimized by getting called out and calling it "embarrassing" is a bit of a stretch. She is (was) pregnant, shes gonna show...enough said.


The embarrassment is that it is about privacy violation involving personal medical information. If I had an assembly where the school forced me to stand before the middle school assembly and announced my condition, "He is obese.", I'd be just as mortified, even though everyone can clearly see my condition.

Let me reiterate this:
Wingate Elementry did a major privacy violation involving personal medical information, it doesn't matter about how obvious the condition is.
 
2012-03-08 10:12:08 AM
According to the suit [...]

I misread the last word as "slut." Is that wrong?
 
2012-03-08 10:18:34 AM
Oh it is far too bad that there wasn't some way or device that she could have used to prevent this whole thing from taking place and her life getting ruined.
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Yeah I am going to start crying a river for her any second now...yep any second.

I do agree that it was wrong for the school to make her tell the whole school, but had she been a bit smarter there would not have been an issue to start with.
 
2012-03-08 10:22:04 AM

thenateman: How do you eat your chile? From a bucket?


On eggs, hamburgers, mixed in with tacos, in chicken stew. I just hate cheese sauce and I like my fries crispy.
 
2012-03-08 10:22:18 AM
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2012-03-08 09:30:42 AM


vudukungfu: Endive Wombat: But acting victimized by getting called out and calling it "embarrassing" is a bit of a stretc

SO I can knock up an 8th grader and no one is going to call her a "victim?"
Good to know.

Yup. An adult banging a child is exactly what I was talking about here.

Nowhere in the article does it mention who she had sex with, but I am going to imagine if it was rape,




Of course you are. You're reasonable and intelligent.
 
2012-03-08 10:50:08 AM

GAT_00: Runs_With_Scissors_: Is this horrifying, or what?

Did we skip back in time a hundred years?

That or we suddenly changed to Saudi Arabia. Theocracy is theocracy, and the Christian ones are worse because that's what we'll have here.


I've argued with fundamentalists who say that I shouldn't be worried about a Christian theocracy because they don't do insane things like the Saudis. I've always replied that that's only because they lack the power and that's an excellent reason to keep their religion from having any secular power.

Turns out I was right.
 
2012-03-08 10:58:10 AM

Profedius: Oh it is far too bad that there wasn't some way or device that she could have used to prevent this whole thing from taking place and her life getting ruined.


Unfortunately she didn't know condoms existed, due to abstinence-only sex education.*


*possibly
 
2012-03-08 10:59:45 AM

Wyalt Derp: Unfortunately she didn't know condoms existed, due to abstinence-only sex education.*


Or maybe she did use a condom and it failed. In any case, it doesn't make the principal's actions right
 
2012-03-08 11:11:32 AM

Wyalt Derp: Profedius: Oh it is far too bad that there wasn't some way or device that she could have used to prevent this whole thing from taking place and her life getting ruined.

Unfortunately she didn't know condoms existed, due to abstinence-only sex education.*


*possibly


Considering the most sex education happens in high school, does it really matter if it's abstinence only or not?
 
2012-03-08 11:23:45 AM

Bathia_Mapes: PsiChick: 1600s, Puritans, calling...

/Been said, but needs to be said again.

And the irony being that the teen happens to be Native American.


Thank you, forgot that.
 
2012-03-08 11:40:48 AM

Wyalt Derp: Profedius: Oh it is far too bad that there wasn't some way or device that she could have used to prevent this whole thing from taking place and her life getting ruined.

Unfortunately she didn't know condoms existed, due to abstinence-only sex education.*


*possibly


I knew of them at the age of 12 and this was back in 1984. I am sure that in today's world she would have known about them and if she did use them and it broke she should have came clean to her parents and got them to get her plan b. Now we are looking at a drop out who is going to be stuck on government assistance for the rest of her life. I highly doubt she we get her GED and it is going to be hard to find a good husband when she is at home taking care of a child and no money to go out to where she might be asked out on a date.
 
2012-03-08 12:09:26 PM

Calmamity: The Regressive Puritans want a place back that never existed. They want Father Knows Best.


They want Ward not to be so hard on the Beaver?
 
2012-03-08 12:28:07 PM

GAT_00: Runs_With_Scissors_: Is this horrifying, or what?

Did we skip back in time a hundred years?

That or we suddenly changed to Saudi Arabia. Theocracy is theocracy, and the Christian ones are worse because that's what we'll have here.


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2012-03-08 12:55:44 PM

AbbeySomeone: serpent_sky: namegoeshere: Pregnancy is a medical condition. Congrats on violating HIPPA, school director.

At least the way too young mother will have money to take care of her child when she wins the lawsuit, or the ACLU makes sure they settle out of court for a handsome sum.

It's not a HIPPA issue, in this case, but if you read the article, it's "violation of constitutional rights to equal protection and of the Title IX prohibition against sex and pregnancy discrimination in education."

Added bonus is that she is native in NM.
This situation is pathetic all around. Girls that age should not be having sex and in no way are ready to bear the burden of a child.
The principle may have attempted to use her as an example of what should not happen. If he is white he will be crucified; if he is native it will be another story.


I disagree with pretty much everything you said there.

Girls that age are perfectly capable of having sex and raising a child. In the last 100 years due to significant changes in our society we believe that not to be the case due to our expectations of a higher education, women's rights improvements, and men not being the sole financial provider to a family. Biologically the girl is in her prime birthing years for having healthy babies.
 
2012-03-08 01:37:56 PM
Did the kick the Father of the baby out too? Bet not.
 
2012-03-08 01:41:23 PM

Badafuco: I was here to point out it is HIPAA not HIPPA. I see it was covered. Unlike your pre-existing condition.


I see you are pulling your health insurance knowledge card. Nice.
 
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