H31N0US: ZydrateZombie: I was 10, btw.

Your Dad's a dick. Or was.

He was an old school farmer from a long line of old school farmers. It was what he knew. He told me the outcome and I apparently disbelieved it so he followed through as I didn't hold up my end of the bargain. He had beef cattle and hogs and had no need, and no time, for a dairy cow. He told me that the cow was going to go.
So, in farmer thought... that's meat in the freezer.

TheOmni: Yes, that makes it much less threatening and controlling.

Threatening and controlling???

You mean.. good parenting?

This man is a farking HERO. VERY few parents these days have the guts to say no to their kids.

Mog32Kupo: Well backing up her data just proves as much as a backwater rube he looks to be, he still has some tech savvy.

I still liked the swift hand of justice he served on his kid.

Would I have done it? No! ...I don't own a gun


/Probably would of ran over it with the car
//or submerge it in water

You should buy a gun.

PoochUMD: Mikey1969: loonatic112358: I'd have wiped it and sold it

to someone in another city


Yep, shooting it is just stupid. Waste of money.ihatedumbpeople: Hmmm...I didn't get the impression that he went looking for attention.

HE POSTED A VIDEO ON YOU TUBE.

How the Hell is that 'not looking for attention'? If he wanted to remain anonymous and still send the video message to his daughter, there are other ways that don't involve the interwebs...

So anyone who has ever posted anything on youtube is looking for attention? It's not like he sent it out to media outlets. His daughter wrote a letter about how bad her parents/life were and posted it on facebook. He made a rebuttal video and posted it on her facebook page so the same people would see the followup.

He's a grown man acting out with a firearm because he feels threatened by what a bunch of Junior High Schoolers are saying about him on Facebook.

It's got nothing to do with discipline and everything to do with wanting to look like a badass to a bunch of teenaged girls.

H31N0US: ZydrateZombie: I was 10, btw.

Your Dad's a dick. Or was.

Life on the farm is different than growing up in the city. When I was 8 or 9, I accidentally ran over our dog with the pickup while taking the old man lunch in the field. It broke her back, but she was still very much alive. I got her off the road and went and told him. His response was "Well, the .22 is behind the seat. You ran over her, you take care of it.". I had to go back, get out the gun, put it between her eyes as she looked up at me with confused, pleading eyes, and pull the trigger. Then I loaded her body in the pickup and drove home. I also had to routinely "euthanize" baby pigs that weren't going to survive. That usually involved a hammer, and I'll spare you the details. I have many more, but the dog was probably the worst and definitely the hardest.

Mom didn't find out he actually made me shoot the dog until many years later. She was not at all impressed.

PsiChick: TheOmni: Yes, that makes it much less threatening and controlling.

THIS.

Seriously, if you're so incapable of handling children that you shoot their things when they don't obey RIGHT THIS SECOND!!!111!!1!, you might want to go forwarn CPS that you've got only a few months before you start abusing them.

/Really, this is the entire mentality behind abuse: You Are Mine, You Are Not Obeying Me, Ergo I Punish You.
//A normal parent is the one who doesn't feel the need to not only break into locked FB posts, but shoot things because their teenager whined on FB.

I think you mean a "typical" parent.

"Normal" seems to imply good parenting is involved. A parent that allows their child to use FB AT ALL is NOT a good parent.

"Typical" parents have no control, and are completely and entirely at the whim of their children. "Normal" (i.e. "good") parents are just about the opposite.

Hi, everyone who has an opinion one way or the other?

The entire thing was a setup. It was fake from cradle to grave.

You should feel bad, but you won't, because you're fake, too.

Reality TV like this is the reason for everything wrong in the world today. Yes, even China and Russia.

MasterYong: PsiChick: TheOmni: Yes, that makes it much less threatening and controlling.

THIS.

Seriously, if you're so incapable of handling children that you shoot their things when they don't obey RIGHT THIS SECOND!!!111!!1!, you might want to go forwarn CPS that you've got only a few months before you start abusing them.

/Really, this is the entire mentality behind abuse: You Are Mine, You Are Not Obeying Me, Ergo I Punish You.
//A normal parent is the one who doesn't feel the need to not only break into locked FB posts, but shoot things because their teenager whined on FB.

I think you mean a "typical" parent.

"Normal" seems to imply good parenting is involved. A parent that allows their child to use FB AT ALL is NOT a good parent.

"Typical" parents have no control, and are completely and entirely at the whim of their children. "Normal" (i.e. "good") parents are just about the opposite.

I think FB is a lot more of a gray area in parenting than shooting a laptop. One is actually a sign of violence. The other, unless you can provide evidence otherwise, really doesn't do more than let kids sound stupid online, which quite frankly they'll do one way or the other anyway.

casual disregard: Hi, everyone who has an opinion one way or the other?

The entire thing was a setup. It was fake from cradle to grave.

You should feel bad, but you won't, because you're fake, too.

Reality TV like this is the reason for everything wrong in the world today. Yes, even China and Russia.

I'm assuming that you have links to this information, right?

MasterYong: "Normal" seems to imply good parenting is involved. A parent that allows their child to use FB AT ALL is NOT a good parent.

"Typical" parents have no control, and are completely and entirely at the whim of their children. "Normal" (i.e. "good") parents are just about the opposite.

You missed at least one common group of parentage: the absolutly psychotic abusive parents.

When I was growing up, the happy kids were rare. The bullies were common, and their targets were common. Happy parents were rare, but abusive parents were common.

The ones who have no control are ambivalent.

The good parents are keenly aware.

The remainder are abusive, and they are the most common.

I'd know, I lived that farking life. My parents loved me, my bullies did not. I would sooner shoot somebody like you in self-defense than proclaim that everything is just grand and fine in the world and there's no problems and everyone gets along all of the time.

At some point, you either realize you are part of the problem or you die of natural causes. I'm telling you straight up: you directly caused this problem. Put up or shut up

Family of idiots.

durbnpoisn: Fark Me Runnin: emersonbiggins: DNRTFA, but I think he just physically removed the drive before he shot the laptop all to hell. You guys that are thinking this guy is imaging hard drives in his spare time are precious.

Imaging hard drives is difficult??

It's not that it's difficult. But unless you put it into another laptop that's roughly 90% compatible hardware-wise, you will have to reinstall the OS, drivers, and all your programs anyway.
So whether he just imaged it or copied off the documents, it wouldn't matter. The only things that are left are the documents.

However... That was a colossal waste of a good chunk of hardware. He should have sold it on eBay and bought a new gun.

I doubt he could have got more than $200 for it. It was an old laptop, why do you think she wanted a new one?

mod3072: H31N0US: ZydrateZombie: I was 10, btw.

Your Dad's a dick. Or was.

Life on the farm is different than growing up in the city. When I was 8 or 9, I accidentally ran over our dog with the pickup while taking the old man lunch in the field. It broke her back, but she was still very much alive. I got her off the road and went and told him. His response was "Well, the .22 is behind the seat. You ran over her, you take care of it.". I had to go back, get out the gun, put it between her eyes as she looked up at me with confused, pleading eyes, and pull the trigger. Then I loaded her body in the pickup and drove home. I also had to routinely "euthanize" baby pigs that weren't going to survive. That usually involved a hammer, and I'll spare you the details. I have many more, but the dog was probably the worst and definitely the hardest.

Mom didn't find out he actually made me shoot the dog until many years later. She was not at all impressed.

I spent a few childhood summers on my Aunts farm in W Va. At 9 ys old I was told we were having goat chili for dinner, then instructed to go out and catch a kid goat, then handed a knife to slit its throat, which I did. The next time I was allowed to use a 22. I get it.

Still, you have to forgive a 10 year old if cause and effect is not fully understood, and killing her pets is farked up.

/Sad story about the dog though. I was in a car that ran over a dog in similar fashion and the dog had to be put down.
//Always check to see if there is a dumb dog sleeping under the car before backing out.

vrax: Reality TV like this is the reason for everything wrong in the world today. Yes, even China and Russia.

I'm assuming that you have links to this information, right?

I have one for China: Interviews with Convicts on Death Row in China (new window). It can always get worse, and as always China is ahead of the curve. This show would be a smash hit in the USA. Why didn't we think of it first?

durbnpoisn: Does the new format allow for all the setup processes for all your software, as well as specific driver information? I kinda can't imagine it making much of a difference even if it did, unless (again), the hardware in the new machine is almost identical.

These days you can take the drive out of one machine and stick it into another with completely different hardware and Windows will proceed to grab all the needed drivers off the internet. About the only thing you need to do is activate again. Try it sometime, you'll be surprised.

casual disregard: vrax: Reality TV like this is the reason for everything wrong in the world today. Yes, even China and Russia.

I'm assuming that you have links to this information, right?

I have one for China: Interviews with Convicts on Death Row in China (new window). It can always get worse, and as always China is ahead of the curve. This show would be a smash hit in the USA. Why didn't we think of it first?

Well, yes, of course reality TV exists. That's not in question. Where did you get the information that this whole story is fake?

Dude no way that is his daughter... she looks 30 and ate a whole fridge once on a binge back in 02

Gordon Bennett: netweavr: Problem: Child abuses toys.
Solution: Remove toys.
Difficulty: Laptop

Solution:

[www.homesecurityguru.com image 150x150]

That can work, I just lock down outbound internet access from my daughters MAC address so she can still type up papers for school. If she figures out how to spoof a MAC, then she's earned a bit of surfing.

Mog32Kupo: Well backing up her data just proves as much as a backwater rube he looks to be, he still has some tech savvy.

I still liked the swift hand of justice he served on his kid.

Would I have done it? No! ...I don't own a gun


/Probably would of ran over it with the car
//or submerge it in water

Why not wipe all her files and donate it to charity? Destroying it is just wasteful, but if you donate it she suffers the same result, she loses her laptop. And I am sure that there is a school or a senior home somewhere that could use an extra laptop. Hell, for added kick put a "Donated by ____________" sticker on it and donate it to her school!

vrax: Where did you get the information that this whole story is fake?

If you're drunk, my first recommendation is to sober up. If you're sober, I don't know what to say. People seeking attention routinely fake it and then quickly cover up their tracks as best as they are able. Balloon boy was almost a national scandal, and yet turned out to be fake.

Now if I wanted to hurt my daughter, would I back up her data and then destroy her outdated laptop?

Not only does that fat cow need to do her chores the dad need to make her run laps around the house every night and pad lock the fridge. Since he is at it he should have his wife do the same. Hey fat people stop freaking eating and move around a bit. I am 6 foot 2 inches with a 33 inch waist and weigh 185 I eat twice sometimes once a day and I do not snack at all.

Ika7734: Gordon Bennett: netweavr: Problem: Child abuses toys.
Solution: Remove toys.
Difficulty: Laptop

Solution:

[www.homesecurityguru.com image 150x150]

That can work, I just lock down outbound internet access from my daughters MAC address so she can still type up papers for school. If she figures out how to spoof a MAC, then she's earned a bit of surfing.

Spoofing a MAC is easy as hell to do. Windows provides the means in Device Manager.

He should back her up and shoot her too.

redhook: Ika7734: Gordon Bennett: netweavr: Problem: Child abuses toys.
Solution: Remove toys.
Difficulty: Laptop

Solution:

[www.homesecurityguru.com image 150x150]

That can work, I just lock down outbound internet access from my daughters MAC address so she can still type up papers for school. If she figures out how to spoof a MAC, then she's earned a bit of surfing.

Spoofing a MAC is easy as hell to do. Windows provides the means in Device Manager.

The what manager? Do I click the blue E to get that, of do I have to use foxfire? Does it have games? I LOVE FARMVILLE!!!

Up next: daughter calls FBI
FBI comes and takes possession of the data copy, find a crapload of her boobie pics she made
Dad dragged away for child porn possession
Daughter laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs

He could have just taken away her computer. He wanted to commit a violent act, and they are done to intimidate.

casual disregard: vrax: Where did you get the information that this whole story is fake?

If you're drunk, my first recommendation is to sober up. If you're sober, I don't know what to say. People seeking attention routinely fake it and then quickly cover up their tracks as best as they are able. Balloon boy was almost a national scandal, and yet turned out to be fake.

Now if I wanted to hurt my daughter, would I back up her data and then destroy her outdated laptop?

So, "got nothin'" is the answer. OK.

vrax: casual disregard: vrax: Where did you get the information that this whole story is fake?

If you're drunk, my first recommendation is to sober up. If you're sober, I don't know what to say. People seeking attention routinely fake it and then quickly cover up their tracks as best as they are able. Balloon boy was almost a national scandal, and yet turned out to be fake.

Now if I wanted to hurt my daughter, would I back up her data and then destroy her outdated laptop?

So, "got nothin'" is the answer. OK.

Part of me is glad that you admit you have nothing. Part of me is sad.

casual disregard: vrax: casual disregard: vrax: Where did you get the information that this whole story is fake?

If you're drunk, my first recommendation is to sober up. If you're sober, I don't know what to say. People seeking attention routinely fake it and then quickly cover up their tracks as best as they are able. Balloon boy was almost a national scandal, and yet turned out to be fake.

Now if I wanted to hurt my daughter, would I back up her data and then destroy her outdated laptop?

So, "got nothin'" is the answer. OK.

Part of me is glad that you admit you have nothing. Part of me is sad.

I'm not the one asserting that this is fake. Sorry that you can't deal with fact that you are simply projecting for some reason. There is no reason to believe and no evidence to show that this is a fake story yet.

vrax: I'm not the one asserting that this is fake. Sorry that you can't deal with fact that you are simply projecting for some reason. There is no reason to believe and no evidence to show that this is a fake story yet.

I admit defeat. We should accept everything as reported. There's no reason not to accept with 100% validity everything you perceive.

casual disregard: vrax: I'm not the one asserting that this is fake. Sorry that you can't deal with fact that you are simply projecting for some reason. There is no reason to believe and no evidence to show that this is a fake story yet.

I admit defeat. We should accept everything as reported. There's no reason not to accept with 100% validity everything you perceive.

Yes, yes, and once again, you've got nothing. Well, unless, as asked for previously, you can point me to the something that you do have that isn't in your head. I bet that Obama birth certificate is fake too. A disturbance in The Force told you so. Something about some pixels...

vrax: Yes, yes, and once again, you've got nothing. Well, unless, as asked for previously, you can point me to the something that you do have that isn't in your head. I bet that Obama birth certificate is fake too. A disturbance in The Force told you so. Something about some pixels...

Find me what's real.

Tell me what's misbelieve.

???

I must actually apologize; i have no idea.

dv-ous: redhook: Ika7734: Gordon Bennett: netweavr: Problem: Child abuses toys.
Solution: Remove toys.
Difficulty: Laptop

Solution:

[www.homesecurityguru.com image 150x150]

That can work, I just lock down outbound internet access from my daughters MAC address so she can still type up papers for school. If she figures out how to spoof a MAC, then she's earned a bit of surfing.

Spoofing a MAC is easy as hell to do. Windows provides the means in Device Manager.

The what manager? Do I click the blue E to get that, of do I have to use foxfire? Does it have games? I LOVE FARMVILLE!!!

So, how long did you work tech support?

mod3072: and welcome to my favorites list

casual disregard: vrax: Yes, yes, and once again, you've got nothing. Well, unless, as asked for previously, you can point me to the something that you do have that isn't in your head. I bet that Obama birth certificate is fake too. A disturbance in The Force told you so. Something about some pixels...

Find me what's real.

Tell me what's misbelieve.

???

I must actually apologize; i have no idea.

Well, if you simply have a feeling, a belief, that it's all fake, that's AOK, Earlier you seemed to be making the claim that this situation was definitely fake, but I guess that's not what you meant.

ZydrateZombie: Really... you vastly over-estimate the worth of a run of the mill laptop. Like... VASTLY. And you're also so damned DENSE that you missed the point of my post.

Nope, any return is better than a loss, so selling the laptop is better than shooting it up, plus adding the cost of his apparently solid gold bullets... I got the point of your post, life sucks. On the other hand, you missed the point of mine: this dude's a moron. He "taught his daughter a lesson" by destroying something HE paid for...

ZydrateZombie: I'm damned certain that my cow, my rabbits, and my horse were of much more value to me than that laptop was to that girl.

All this ire over an inanimate piece of junk. Priorities in modern society are skewed as hell.


...... I was in the barnyard when the processor came to shoot, hang, bleed, and gut my cow prior to hauling the carcass to be butchered (Not arranged out of any sort of callousness. I was just unlucky enough to be home when the guy could come.) I was at the auction when my rabbits were sold and the person that bought my mare later sold her to someone else that damned near starved her to death.
So, again... I have no sympathy for that girl or that laptop.


I don't care about the laptop, I just think the guy's a moron, there's a difference. He's a typical dipshiat who wants to appear "tough", when in reality he doesn't impress me in the least.

And yeah I get it, you miss your barnyard friends, life sucks that way, we all have crappy stuff happen, sometimes it's our fault, sometimes it isn't, but if I went around basing whether or not people had it hard based purely on my experiences, there wouldn't be much sympathy to be heard from me, since I watched my mother beaten to death by her boyfriend at 5, was the only eyewitness and out the guy in jail 6 months later, got adopted by an aunt and uncle who treated me like garbage, beat me from one end of the house to the other, ended up in 3 hospital psych wards and a Children's Home before someone figured out something was wrong, and then spent my 4 years of High School between a Group Home and a Foster Home.

See, we all had shiat in our lives, but I still have th capacity to think that it would have been horrible to see your animals go like that.

/Just by calling the guy a dumbass, it doesn't mean that I'm feeling sorry for his daughter.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: mod3072: H31N0US: ZydrateZombie: I was 10, btw.

Your Dad's a dick. Or was.

Life on the farm is different than growing up in the city. When I was 8 or 9, I accidentally ran over our dog with the pickup while taking the old man lunch in the field. It broke her back, but she was still very much alive. I got her off the road and went and told him. His response was "Well, the .22 is behind the seat. You ran over her, you take care of it.". I had to go back, get out the gun, put it between her eyes as she looked up at me with confused, pleading eyes, and pull the trigger. Then I loaded her body in the pickup and drove home. I also had to routinely "euthanize" baby pigs that weren't going to survive. That usually involved a hammer, and I'll spare you the details. I have many more, but the dog was probably the worst and definitely the hardest.

Mom didn't find out he actually made me shoot the dog until many years later. She was not at all impressed.

Wait, so you dad allowed an 8 year old to drive a pickup truck, and then when something predictable happened like you hitting something, he made you shoot it? Good god, you don't have a brother named Leatherface, do you?

Driving at 8 wasn't a big deal back then, and even now farm kids start pretty young. I was in the field on a tractor full time, often 12-14 hours a day, when I was 9, on an old cabless 720 John Deere with a hand clutch and no brakes. I'm kind of surprised I lived to be an adult, and that tractor did come very close to killing me at least twice. As far as the dog though, even the old man now admits that it was a dick move.

As for your other question, to my knowledge neither of my brothers are chainsaw-wielding maniacs.

That kind of makes me lose some respect for him.

He isn't such a tough guy after all.

Its like if you get mad at your girlfriend and smear some mud from a mud puddle on it, then take out a garden hose and give it a good cleaning afterwards.

Mikey1969: ZydrateZombie: Really... you vastly over-estimate the worth of a run of the mill laptop. Like... VASTLY. And you're also so damned DENSE that you missed the point of my post.

Nope, any return is better than a loss, so selling the laptop is better than shooting it up, plus adding the cost of his apparently solid gold bullets... I got the point of your post, life sucks. On the other hand, you missed the point of mine: this dude's a moron. He "taught his daughter a lesson" by destroying something HE paid for...

ZydrateZombie: I'm damned certain that my cow, my rabbits, and my horse were of much more value to me than that laptop was to that girl.

All this ire over an inanimate piece of junk. Priorities in modern society are skewed as hell.


...... I was in the barnyard when the processor came to shoot, hang, bleed, and gut my cow prior to hauling the carcass to be butchered (Not arranged out of any sort of callousness. I was just unlucky enough to be home when the guy could come.) I was at the auction when my rabbits were sold and the person that bought my mare later sold her to someone else that damned near starved her to death.
So, again... I have no sympathy for that girl or that laptop.


I don't care about the laptop, I just think the guy's a moron, there's a difference. He's a typical dipshiat who wants to appear "tough", when in reality he doesn't impress me in the least.

And yeah I get it, you miss your barnyard friends, life sucks that way, we all have crappy stuff happen, sometimes it's our fault, sometimes it isn't, but if I went around basing whether or not people had it hard based purely on my experiences, there wouldn't be much sympathy to be heard from me, since I watched my mother beaten to death by her boyfriend at 5, was the only eyewitness and out the guy in jail 6 months later, got adopted by an aunt and uncle who treated me like garbage, beat me from one end of the house to the other, ended up in 3 hospital psych wards and a Children's Home bef ...

Well, your life experience speaks volumes as to the reason why you happen to interpret this father's actions as being a show of aggression or toughness, when they really weren't.

redhook: Ika7734: Gordon Bennett: netweavr: Problem: Child abuses toys.
Solution: Remove toys.
Difficulty: Laptop

Solution:

[www.homesecurityguru.com image 150x150]

That can work, I just lock down outbound internet access from my daughters MAC address so she can still type up papers for school. If she figures out how to spoof a MAC, then she's earned a bit of surfing.

Spoofing a MAC is easy as hell to do. Windows provides the means in Device Manager.

You know that, I know that.. she's 13 and not technical. Never mind I set up her Id as a reg user. I'm the local Admin. She comes to me for software installs.
Also she only connects via wireless... so mac filter would stop her from going anywhere if she spoofs it anyway.

I finally watched that video for the first time recently. Between the guy claiming he was a highschool student/college student/firefighter at 15 and his nonsense about "exploding hollowpoints," (to say nothing of filming himself shooting a computer) I dismissed him as an attention whore.

He also claimed to be an IT expert who cleverly got into his daughter's account, then later admitted that he only saw her rant because of access through another shared account that she forgot to block.

I don't care if the girl is in the right or in the wrong. Her daddy's a buffoon.

Goodfella: That kind of makes me lose some respect for him.

He isn't such a tough guy after all.

Its like if you get mad at your girlfriend and smear some mud from a mud puddle on it, then take out a garden hose and give it a good cleaning afterwards.



Smear mud on her car, I meant.

/darn stupid Flanders

"I'd have wiped it and sold it

to someone in another city"



You meant to tell me you would not have discharged a firearm in a rural neighborhood where cars are rolling by less than a hundred yards downrange, but instead would have carried out a sensible solution that still would have appropriately demonstrated to the daughter that she was an idiot?

That my be very well and good, but that does NOT get you youtube fame and an interview on the Today Show.

Good day, sir!

I SAID GOOD DAY!