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(Orlando Sentinel)   Dude, do you think today's young workers lack professionalism, er, I mean sir, dude. Er, sir   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 156
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2012-03-07 08:28:35 AM
Let me just say I am as professional as I have to be.
 
2012-03-07 08:36:21 AM
What generation hasn't said that about the younger generation?
 
2012-03-07 08:39:30 AM
He really should reveal his lawn location so the yutes can stay off it.
 
2012-03-07 08:43:06 AM
I'm guessing the author is old enough to remember Judge Reinhold flipping out at All-American Burger, what, like 30 years ago? Gnarly!
 
2012-03-07 09:00:54 AM
media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-03-07 09:02:52 AM
Lamenting the youth is an early sign that you just like to hear yourself complain.
 
2012-03-07 09:04:44 AM
Vote for better service with your feet.
 
2012-03-07 09:04:49 AM
i feel pretty farking sore today. had to mow 4 acres yesterday. biatch and moan, biatch and moan.
 
2012-03-07 09:05:04 AM

Mugato: What generation hasn't said that about the younger generation?


THIS. Also, his anecdotes were about young people who worked shiat jobs. NEWSFLASH: grocery store cashiers/baggers as well as wait staff at all but the fanciest restaurants have never really cared about their jobs that much.
 
2012-03-07 09:06:04 AM
farking hate the old people who stereotype me because I am a 25 year old sarcastic asshole male who does an excellent job at work.

they biatch about everything me until they spend a single second actually working with/under my direction.
 
2012-03-07 09:07:42 AM
His evidence is a cashier at a grocery store and waitstaff at a restaurant? Here's a tip: those people could be in their 40's and still wouldn't be professional because they truly don't want to be there.

I've seen professionalism and unprofessionalism that has run the gamut and the generation of the individual had nothing to do with it. It's how much the person cared about the job.
 
2012-03-07 09:08:01 AM
By lack professionalism do you mean show up to work 6 minutes after the hour to clock in just missing the 7 minute deadline, apply make-up/check email/get coffee/wander to cafeteria/discuss last night's tv, then begin to get ready to work at 40 minutes after the hour, and do a fairly poor job at what they are paid to do and give off an attitude of 'what more do you want from me, I showed up?' then yes, today's young workers along with most of the older, oldier and oldiest employees lack professionalism.
 
2012-03-07 09:10:53 AM

cettin: His evidence is a cashier at a grocery store and waitstaff at a restaurant? Here's a tip: those people could be in their 40's and still wouldn't be professional because they truly don't want to be there.

I've seen professionalism and unprofessionalism that has run the gamut and the generation of the individual had nothing to do with it. It's how much the person cared about the job.


Exactly.

The younger folks I know, for the most part, are hard working and professional. If they weren't, they'd be fired like anyone else.
 
2012-03-07 09:14:33 AM
The last generation was still brought up in the world where if you worked hard you'd work for the some company for life. But employers have downsized, stagnated wages, and generally treated employees shiat for the current generation's entire lifespan. They know employers won't treat them with any respect so why should they? They know they are just going to be fired so the stock price goes up 10¢.
 
2012-03-07 09:14:54 AM
So the author basically starts off TFA disappointed that people who make minimum wage or less - the kind of people who have trouble just paying their bills and who as a class are being marginalized more and more every year - don't bow and scrape before the higher classes with quite enough verve for his liking.

Good. As the ridiculous baby boomers retire maybe we can finally revise what professionalism actually is to something more realistic and practical, and not just acting like you imagine peasants having to act before the aristocracy a few centuries ago. Our arbitrary expectations on appearance alone confound me (jeans, a nice dress shirt and a suit jacket are professional...... but only on Friday... for some reason... ties are professional... for some reason... etc.).
 
2012-03-07 09:15:45 AM
I am in my late 20's ...
the people here also show up right before they get written up ... clock in and head back out to go get coffee or breakfast ... apply make up ... check facebook out on their cell phones ... finally start doing something when the boss shows up an hour later ...
Please just get to work!
 
2012-03-07 09:15:55 AM
i thought it was a pretty compelling example. the cashier asked him cheerfully, "hi sir, how are you today?", but he could tell that she didn't really care. this is proof that the country has gone to shiat entirely.
 
2012-03-07 09:17:31 AM
I have yutes who work for me walking around in flip-flops at my office in midtown Manhattan today so I'm getting a kick looking at their gnarly toes!!!

/ my shirts are always ironed and tucked in

//it's gonna be 64 degrees today
 
2012-03-07 09:18:44 AM
img1.fark.net News Flash: Crotchety old man thinks young whipper-snappers should have a better work ethic while working menial, dead end jobs.
 
2012-03-07 09:18:55 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-03-07 09:22:14 AM
People who spend most of their lives at work, yet still struggle to break even, don't have the energy to pretend to give a shiat about how much money their bosses make.
 
2012-03-07 09:22:58 AM
I don't know about young people being unprofessional *once hired*, but having been on a few search committees, I can't tell you how hilarious it is to see a young man enter a job interview wearing a football jersey.
 
2012-03-07 09:23:15 AM
"Hi, sir. How are you today," she says, her tone clearly indicating she does not care how I am that day or any day.

You live in Orlando, farknuts, the armpit of the armpit of the armpit of the US. You should be grateful she didn't just off you before turning the gun on herself.
 
2012-03-07 09:24:11 AM
The only people who have been innapropriate to me have been middle aged men. Always try to ask about sex life. Im a guy and i find that as a no go area of conversation for coworkers.
 
2012-03-07 09:25:48 AM
Hi sir, how are you today?
Hi sir, how are you today?
Hi sir, how are you today?
Hi sir, how are you today?
Hi sir, how are you today?

/
 
2012-03-07 09:26:46 AM
You mean the young workers who just graduated from college with degrees in 'Zombie Apocaplyse Preparation'?

and people wonder why unemployment is at 9%.
 
2012-03-07 09:28:41 AM
How about "business attire"? When will that go away? Seems like a throwback to the olden days. Men have this same basic uniform: button down shirt, tie, jacket, matching trousers, shiny shoes. Make it stop.
 
2012-03-07 09:28:44 AM
I love calling cops "dude", no matter how many times they insist I use "officer".
 
2012-03-07 09:30:28 AM

SlothB77: and people wonder why unemployment is at 9% people can't count. Also unemployment is at 8.3%.


FTFY
 
2012-03-07 09:35:34 AM

gopher321: Let me just say I am as professional as I have to be.


av.r.ftdata.co.uk
 
2012-03-07 09:35:39 AM
What do they expect from a generation that was given awards for just joining the soccer team or just showing up at karate class. Of course they feel entitled mommy and daddy have raised them for years with the premise that the ENTIRE universe revolves around them, you think that's going to change because they work at Chili's or the supermarket now.
 
2012-03-07 09:36:35 AM

jigger: How about "business attire"? When will that go away? Seems like a throwback to the olden days. Men have this same basic uniform: button down shirt, tie, jacket, matching trousers, shiny shoes. Make it stop.


I think, outside of law, finance and auto sales, it pretty much has gone away. I've been working white collar jobs (mostly IT and advertising) since the late 90's and the strictest dress code I've seen is button-downs and khakis. Never had to wear a tie. These days, nice jeans and an untucked button-down is my daily attire. I'll tuck in and throw on a sport coat if I have to meet a client.
 
2012-03-07 09:37:26 AM

SocraticIrony: SlothB77: and people wonder why unemployment is at 9% people can't count. Also unemployment is at 8.3%.

FTFY


Gallup has it at 9.0 this morning.

/Also can't stand "business attire" and co-workers who under-perform.
//farking at work is different
///bikini thread time!
 
2012-03-07 09:37:42 AM
I honestly tried to read the comments in that article, but I got as far as the idiot who blamed it on "the Liberals", and just had to get out of there.
 
2012-03-07 09:38:33 AM
Pffft. You're supposed to give them a bonus just for showing up. What's wrong with you people? Get with the program and ride the gravy train into the 21st century. Make that happens and then get off my lawn.
 
2012-03-07 09:38:52 AM

jigger: How about "business attire"? When will that go away? Seems like a throwback to the olden days. Men have this same basic uniform: button down shirt, tie, jacket, matching trousers, shiny shoes. Make it stop.


"Friday is Hawaiian shirt day!"

www.garycole.net
 
2012-03-07 09:42:34 AM
- "You don't go out and look for a job dressed like that, do you? On a weekday?"
- "Is this a... What day is this?"
 
2012-03-07 09:45:11 AM

cettin: His evidence is a cashier at a grocery store and waitstaff at a restaurant? Here's a tip: those people could be in their 40's and still wouldn't be professional because they truly don't want to be there.


If they're in their 50's though, you might get better treatment. Because if they're that old and still working crappy service jobs, they'd probably been laid off and already run through their savings, and panicking that they'll starve in 10 years.
 
2012-03-07 09:45:20 AM

bruce4bruce: I am in my late 20's ...
the people here also show up right before they get written up ... clock in and head back out to go get coffee or breakfast ... apply make up ... check facebook out on their cell phones ... finally start doing something when the boss shows up an hour later ...
Please just get to work!


I'm not saying I condone this, but if I was working a crappy job and the boss didn't even show up until an hour after I got there, I wouldn't do shiat for that first hour either.

Supervisors in professional settings lead by example. They're there first and they leave last. That's why they get paid.
 
2012-03-07 09:47:39 AM

thecpt: The only people who have been innapropriate to me have been middle aged men. Always try to ask about sex life. Im a guy and i find that as a no go area of conversation for coworkers.


Try working with middle aged blue collar Filipinos.

/There are no boundaries.
 
2012-03-07 09:48:33 AM

Jerkwater: I think, outside of law, finance and auto sales, it pretty much has gone away. I've been working white collar jobs (mostly IT and advertising) since the late 90's and the strictest dress code I've seen is button-downs and khakis. Never had to wear a tie. These days, nice jeans and an untucked button-down is my daily attire. I'll tuck in and throw on a sport coat if I have to meet a client.


Finance doesn't even have it for the most part. The trading floors will still have suits, but the IT folks on the floor skip the tie, and once you're off the floor, no suits.
 
2012-03-07 09:48:55 AM

Jerkwater: jigger: How about "business attire"? When will that go away? Seems like a throwback to the olden days. Men have this same basic uniform: button down shirt, tie, jacket, matching trousers, shiny shoes. Make it stop.

I think, outside of law, finance and auto sales, it pretty much has gone away. I've been working white collar jobs (mostly IT and advertising) since the late 90's and the strictest dress code I've seen is button-downs and khakis. Never had to wear a tie. These days, nice jeans and an untucked button-down is my daily attire. I'll tuck in and throw on a sport coat if I have to meet a client.


Same here, even in France where the suit and tie is hanging on hard and fast.
 
2012-03-07 09:53:25 AM

mongbiohazard: So the author basically starts off TFA disappointed that people who make minimum wage or less - the kind of people who have trouble just paying their bills and who as a class are being marginalized more and more every year - don't bow and scrape before the higher classes with quite enough verve for his liking.

Good. As the ridiculous baby boomers retire maybe we can finally revise what professionalism actually is to something more realistic and practical, and not just acting like you imagine peasants having to act before the aristocracy a few centuries ago. Our arbitrary expectations on appearance alone confound me (jeans, a nice dress shirt and a suit jacket are professional...... but only on Friday... for some reason... ties are professional... for some reason... etc.).


You sound like the kind of worker who would stay in that dead end, minimum wage job for his entire career. Lack of professionalism on the job is a mark of being so self-involved that you can't be bothered to be courteous. You probably think your overwhelming skills allow you to be a sarcastic bastard. Problem is, you're the only person who thinks your skills are even adequate, let alone overwhelming. That attitude would be enough to keep you at the bottom of the food chain. Your arrogant sense of your own value would keep you on the verge of unemployment down there.

This will probably surprise you but every one of the most successful and best-liked CEOs and upper management types I've ever known and worked with (and in 30 years of consulting, that's a bunch) have been unfailingly courteous to every member of the organization, to wait staff at restaurants, to the janitor, to the parking attendant, to the doorman. Note that I didn't say all CEOs and management; the most successful. People such as yourself, who are too self-important to kowtow to what you view as an arbitrarily imposed set anachronistic societal rituals, are the same people who treat anyone they think is beneath them with contempt. Contempt is returned just as readily as respect.

Bottom line is this: if you expect to be treated with respect, you must treat others with respect. Manners, professionalism, courtesy, adhering to a reasonable dress code, and other "arbitrary expectations" are designed to demonstrate a modicum of respect for your job, your customers, and your employer, not for your ease or comfort.
 
2012-03-07 09:54:30 AM
The lack of professionalism and inappropriate behavior in my office actually caused our last HR person to quit. The owner of the company decided not to hire a new one. Now I can fart on whomever I want.
 
2012-03-07 09:55:41 AM

nightlyraider: farking hate the old people who stereotype me because I am a 25 year old sarcastic asshole male who does an excellent job at work.

they biatch about everything me until they spend a single second actually working with/under my direction.


I hope you don't normally write like this.

There are plenty of anecdotes about moron kids doing moronic things. It's not the rule.
 
2012-03-07 09:56:12 AM
this is new? every generation says the next is lazy and entitled

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."
― Socrates
 
2012-03-07 09:57:54 AM

titwrench: The lack of professionalism and inappropriate behavior in my office actually caused our last HR person to quit. The owner of the company decided not to hire a new one


Because he realized, "Hey, HR people are completely useless!?"
 
PJ-
2012-03-07 09:59:27 AM

Mr. Right: This will probably surprise you but every one of the most successful and best-liked CEOs and upper management types I've ever known and worked with (and in 30 years of consulting, that's a bunch) have been unfailingly courteous to every member of the organization, to wait staff at restaurants, to the janitor, to the parking attendant, to the doorman


Damn, that must mean every CEO in the world is like this!

Bottom line is this: screw everybody else, I want mine, and I will run over anybody who is in my way. Hell, I should get a job on Wall Street.
 
2012-03-07 10:01:39 AM
Yes, young workers lack professionalism. They also lack:

children
spoudes
non-work commitments
courage
self-worth
previous pay history

and that's why employers want them - you can get great, cheap labor that will work a long time with no need to please anyone except you - the boss-man. Stop whining about how they don't have business manners and teach them some.

Sheesh.
 
2012-03-07 10:01:52 AM

Mugato: titwrench: The lack of professionalism and inappropriate behavior in my office actually caused our last HR person to quit. The owner of the company decided not to hire a new one

Because he realized, "Hey, HR people are completely useless!?"


Probably. I work for a bunch of crazy Russian Mobsters. As long as you make them money and don't ask questions you will be fine. We did have one guy they found hanged in his office a couple of months ago.
 
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