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(Democratic Underground)   Imagine a country where there's: No Obamacare, No income tax, A complete free market, No Unions, No Govt involved in Business, Health Care, Labor matters or pretty much anything else except national security. Here's the Tea Party Heaven   (democraticunderground.com) divider line 226
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2012-03-07 10:04:31 AM
well, since the Republicans party is mostly financed by the Communist, I don't see what the big surprise is
 
2012-03-07 10:05:09 AM
You know how I know the author doesn't know much about China?

/still funny, though
 
2012-03-07 10:05:16 AM
One question: Does it cost thousands of dollars a day for healthcare over there like it does over here? (serious question, not trolling)
 
2012-03-07 10:05:58 AM
And, this blog sucks about as bad as the American Stinker website.
 
2012-03-07 10:06:20 AM

socodog: You know... I know it's just libs being libs but I've never actually heard a tea party member say any of that stuff about getting rid of government all together, killing off all the black children, or really ANY of the straw man garbage you guys throw out there. Am I wrong that I don't fall for hyperbolic troll statements?


Just like most democrats don't really want to get rid of all guns or put everyone on welfare or dismantle the military. Your side invented the hyperbolic troll game and now the left has stolen your playbook.
 
2012-03-07 10:07:11 AM
Be interesting to see if heads roll, literally, if/when the China bubble pops.
 
2012-03-07 10:08:20 AM

Death_Poot: One question: Does it cost thousands of dollars a day for healthcare over there like it does over here? (serious question, not trolling)


Depends on if you consider a powdered deer penis and chrysanthemum leave poultice health care
 
2012-03-07 10:08:22 AM

Dimensio: Great_Milenko: FTFA: You read right - in the Worker's Socialist Paradise there are no labor unions, because Chinese workers never had it so good. They have a minimum wage law, but no Workers Compensation Laws, no Unemployment tax or Unemployment benefits. There is a Social Security tax but (see the toothless IRS section) contributing to it is voluntary and unenforced, so it is seldom done.

Sorry, those two bolded parts are complete dealbreakers. Might as well move to the People's Republic of Berkeley.

You are correct. In fact, one Democratic Underground user explicitly, and evidently seriously, claimed China to be a progressive country.


Please look up the word "explicitly". Then go to the article and do a search for the word "progressive". Then punch yourself in the balls for being an idiot.
 
2012-03-07 10:08:46 AM
I love the fact he include Libertarians in that post. They are always big on unending government spending on the military. I also love how all the other endeavors the Chinese government is directly involved. Why am I responding!? I know it is just trolling..

/your blog sucks
 
2012-03-07 10:08:48 AM
This blog sucks... and doesn't make any sense

The opposite of "obamacare' is not the elimination of private health insurance. Why would free-market people eliminate health insurance?

A VAT is not the same thing as fair-tax. Not even close. Not to mention the Fair-tax comes with the elimination of income tax.. not so in his post.

The idea that China is Laissex Faire free market and the gov't does not involve itself in business is horribly wrong. Link (new window)


Other than it all being wrong.. great points!
 
2012-03-07 10:10:17 AM

aug3: well, since the Republicans party is mostly financed by the Communist, I don't see what the big surprise is


the Communist? There is only one left?
 
2012-03-07 10:10:30 AM
FTFA: The Fair Tax is the law of the land

The Chinese Government's principal source of revenue is the Value Added Tax - or the "Fair Tax" as it is called in the USA


THIS IS NOT TRUE

/it's from the Democratic Underground, of course, so that's really no surprise
 
2012-03-07 10:10:39 AM

Miigwech: I love the fact he include Libertarians in that post. They are always big on unending government spending on the military. I also love how all the other endeavors the Chinese government is directly involved. Why am I responding!? I know it is just trolling..

/your blog sucks


I can see that you have no idea what a Libertarian is.

Google Gary Johnson. He is a prime example of what a real Libertarian is.
 
Bf+
2012-03-07 10:11:28 AM
Dogs and cats, living together?
 
2012-03-07 10:11:40 AM

L82DPRT: Be interesting to see if heads roll, literally, if/when the China bubble pops.


Chiefly, our heads.

/we need them to buy our debt
//if they don't, we're up shiat creek as the Fed would be the "buyer of last resort"
 
2012-03-07 10:12:24 AM

beta_plus: Free Healthcare.
Free Education.
Free Housing.
Free Old Age Pensions.
Pro Union.

[the38th.com image 630x463]

/it's Best for a reason


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-03-07 10:13:01 AM

socodog: "Admitting"? Excuse me but, p huk you. That's what's so god dam wrong with you partisain hack assholes. Your political affiliation is not something to be confessed like so many phelonies. You are every thing wrong with the system and your head is too far up your own ass to see it.


julianlytle.com
 
2012-03-07 10:14:31 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: "Tea Party Heaven"? Wouldn't that correctly be called "Randtopia"?


I think the preferred nomenclature is "Galt's Gulch".
 
2012-03-07 10:14:58 AM

cman: Miigwech: I love the fact he include Libertarians in that post. They are always big on unending government spending on the military. I also love how all the other endeavors the Chinese government is directly involved. Why am I responding!? I know it is just trolling..

/your blog sucks

I can see that you have no idea what a Libertarian is.

Google Gary Johnson. He is a prime example of what a real Libertarian is.


I was assuming his post was sarcastic
 
2012-03-07 10:15:07 AM

MugzyBrown: This blog sucks... and doesn't make any sense


Perhaps this will help you understand:

media.rhizome.org
 
2012-03-07 10:15:34 AM

Dr. Mojo PhD: Pants full of macaroni!!: "Tea Party Heaven"? Wouldn't that correctly be called "Randtopia"?

I think the preferred nomenclature is "Galt's Gulch".


ShAyngri La?
 
2012-03-07 10:15:54 AM
Ignaciouspharkface... Your rant is great and all and I'm gonna let you finish, but I'm not a republican you moron!
 
2012-03-07 10:17:56 AM

chuckufarlie: aug3: well, since the Republicans party is mostly financed by the Communist, I don't see what the big surprise is

the Communist? There is only one left?


his name is Ju Galt
 
2012-03-07 10:20:48 AM
Noted Tea Party activist Thomas Friedman agrees!
 
2012-03-07 10:21:02 AM

Rann Xerox: Somalia?


This
 
2012-03-07 10:22:41 AM

Zoophagous: Rann Xerox: Somalia?

This


hehe, not even trying anymore
 
2012-03-07 10:23:05 AM

Hydra: L82DPRT: Be interesting to see if heads roll, literally, if/when the China bubble pops.

Chiefly, our heads.

/we need them to buy our debt
//if they don't, we're up shiat creek as the Fed would be the "buyer of last resort"


The Fed is already monetizing the debt. China is selling off treasuries.
 
2012-03-07 10:24:47 AM

FlashHarry: i'm pretty sure teabagger heaven is somalia.


I don't think they can ship Hoverrounds there...
 
2012-03-07 10:25:05 AM
So what do they tax to enforce their required religion on citizens?
 
2012-03-07 10:25:26 AM
Because that's our only two options. The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble we have or anarchy.

The notion all that is good flows from the gubmint is horseshiat.
 
2012-03-07 10:26:01 AM

Hickory-smoked: cman: Ya know, someone could make a comparison with Liberals and the USSR (or the GDR), but that would be idiotic, just like this article.

Meh. It's a dumb blog post, but it does raise the point that Tea Partisans who chant "We don't want the government to do anything for us" have no concept of what life in such a system would actually be like.


Exactly. When we were in Vietnam, each time we passed children selling gum or homemade toys during school hours, the tour guide would comment "This is a tax free economy, folks."

When we purchased small items from elderly women missing several teeth and clearly struggling to survive, once we were out of hearing range, the tour guide would state "Folks, this is a tax free economy: free of Social Security."

After we were surrounded by deeply handicapped beggars, the tour guide said "A tax free economy; with very little wealth redistribution."

Vietnam is an incredibly beautiful country, but I'd rather Vietnam had more of a security net rather than America have less of a security net.
 
2012-03-07 10:26:25 AM
Ah, heh. I've been in Shanghai for four years now, and the few times we've had to go to the public chinese hospitals instead of the expat "tier 2" clinics have been scarred into my memory.

One time, I remember a lady sitting next to us in the hospital, with a patch over her eye and blood spot on it. She explained that the there was something wrong with her eye and the doctors couldn't figure it out. She had moved into the hospital and sold most of her belongings to continue paying for her stay.

My coworkers mostly stay away from doctocs and hospitals, even if they have decent insurance. As they put it: "You come out worse than when you went in."

The expat clinics on the other hand are unbelieveably fantastic. Doctors who will spend an hour talking to you about anything and everything with no wait. Generally no or little waiting necessary. The only issue is when they don't have a specialist or piece of equipment needed, then you get scheduled at one of the standard hospitals and the circus begins.
 
2012-03-07 10:27:44 AM

Jim_Callahan: I mean, they're not exactly a major driving force in even GOP politics these days


you should let the GOP candidates know, they spend a lot of time courting them and trying to out tea party each other.
 
2012-03-07 10:28:06 AM

L82DPRT: The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble


yeah, what's really holding this economy back is regulation.
 
2012-03-07 10:29:25 AM
Does the stupid still burn?

Yes?

Then why would I click on a DU link?
 
2012-03-07 10:30:57 AM

cman: Miigwech: I love the fact he include Libertarians in that post. They are always big on unending government spending on the military. I also love how all the other endeavors the Chinese government is directly involved. Why am I responding!? I know it is just trolling..

/your blog sucks

I can see that you have no idea what a Libertarian is.

Google Gary Johnson. He is a prime example of what a real Libertarian is.

http://amptoons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/how_libertarians_ v ote.png


amptoons.com
 
2012-03-07 10:31:23 AM
You've really butchered those lyrics, Subby - John Lenin must be rolling in his grave.
 
2012-03-07 10:31:41 AM

qorkfiend: JAYoung: The author forgot to mention environmental protection in a country where last month they had a major cadmium spill in a river water supply and a clear-day ground stop at the capital's airport because the pilots couldn't see to land.

Those are features, not bugs. If fluorine (atomic number 9) in the water is good for you, then cadmium (atomic number 48) must be about 5x better for you. As for those pesky airplanes, you'd think the hippies would be on board with shutting down airports.


I like your way of thinking.

If the server bogs down just at the point we have 541 sessions, then find the number 541 in the code and change it to 15000.

And I understand your uncle was nearly President of the Unites States. He was captain of the PT108.
 
2012-03-07 10:34:29 AM

yelmrog: L82DPRT: The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble

yeah, what's really holding this economy back is regulation.


40,000 new laws and regulations beginning this year... (new window)

We're a first world country because of the size and scope of our economy not the size and scope of our gubmint.
 
2012-03-07 10:35:36 AM
Imagine...Somalia!
 
2012-03-07 10:36:04 AM

L82DPRT: yelmrog: L82DPRT: The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble

yeah, what's really holding this economy back is regulation.

40,000 new laws and regulations beginning this year... (new window)

We're a first world country because of the size and scope of our economy not the size and scope of our gubmint.


you really need to point to laws that hold us back. The existence of a law alone doesn't make the case
 
2012-03-07 10:36:56 AM

Forgot_my_password_again: Jim_Callahan: I mean, they're not exactly a major driving force in even GOP politics these days

you should let the GOP candidates know, they spend a lot of time courting them and trying to out tea party each other.


How so?

which platform is solely a tea party platform and has no corssover appeal?
 
2012-03-07 10:37:13 AM
Steaming pile of BS from start to finish. Nice to see the libtards expose themselves for the stupid.
 
2012-03-07 10:37:43 AM
Not my original thought but Mexico should be a Tea Party paradise.

*Very religious
*Few regulations on business
*Very low income tax
*Pro life and anti-gay
*No Obamacare
*Few environmental regulations
*Pro gun
*Home of the worlds richest man, a testament to working hard and earning success
*Few government sponsored handout programs. Work hard or gtfo.

I mean, other than the messicans, it sounds perfect.
 
2012-03-07 10:37:57 AM

LordZorch: Steaming pile of BS from start to finish. Nice to see the libtards expose themselves for the stupid.


ironic juxtaposition
 
2012-03-07 10:38:20 AM

Great_Milenko: FTFA: You read right - in the Worker's Socialist Paradise there are no labor unions, because Chinese workers never had it so good. They have a minimum wage law, but no Workers Compensation Laws, no Unemployment tax or Unemployment benefits. There is a Social Security tax but (see the toothless IRS section) contributing to it is voluntary and unenforced, so it is seldom done.

Sorry, those two bolded parts are complete dealbreakers. Might as well move to the People's Republic of Berkeley.


You do realize that the minimum wage in China is about 90 cents an hour, right? And that a SS-style tax is voluntary and rarely done, as the bolded part pointed out?
 
2012-03-07 10:39:02 AM

L82DPRT: yelmrog: L82DPRT: The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble

yeah, what's really holding this economy back is regulation.

40,000 new laws and regulations beginning this year... (new window)

We're a first world country because of the size and scope of our economy not the size and scope of our gubmint.


Most of those laws have nothing to do with business. But I see you have that correlation-causation fallacy down pat.
 
2012-03-07 10:39:45 AM

IlGreven: Great_Milenko: FTFA: You read right - in the Worker's Socialist Paradise there are no labor unions, because Chinese workers never had it so good. They have a minimum wage law, but no Workers Compensation Laws, no Unemployment tax or Unemployment benefits. There is a Social Security tax but (see the toothless IRS section) contributing to it is voluntary and unenforced, so it is seldom done.

Sorry, those two bolded parts are complete dealbreakers. Might as well move to the People's Republic of Berkeley.

You do realize that the minimum wage in China is about 90 cents an hour, right? And that a SS-style tax is voluntary and rarely done, as the bolded part pointed out?


Sweetie, it was a joke.
 
2012-03-07 10:39:55 AM
Yeah, also: no police, no fire departments, no unemployment insurance, no rescue squads, no libraries, no free clinics, no public roads, no military, no vaccination programs, no environmental protections, no forest rangers, no automobile insurance (insurance is government mandated, right?), no health insurance (too expensive)...

Sounds great. Sounds like Somalia.
 
2012-03-07 10:40:54 AM

Fart_Machine: L82DPRT: yelmrog: L82DPRT: The bloated byzantine bureaucratic bubble

yeah, what's really holding this economy back is regulation.

40,000 new laws and regulations beginning this year... (new window)

We're a first world country because of the size and scope of our economy not the size and scope of our gubmint.

Most of those laws have nothing to do with business. But I see you have that correlation-causation fallacy down pat.


Next, on to the strawmen.
 
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