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(Comic Book Movie)   Joss Whedon talks about which Avenger was 'the hardest character by far'   (comicbookmovie.com) divider line 91
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2012-03-06 12:36:19 PM  
"OK, so you're the Hulk. And you just found out that a mean neighbor ran over your puppy. How do you react? Good! That's good!"

/comic book moviez iz serious bizniz.
 
2012-03-06 12:39:45 PM  
I'm gonna guess Hulk since they've had 3 different actors in 3 different movies.

*checks site*

Yep. I doubt everyone will like this incarnation of the Hulk too, but I'm willing to give Ruffalo the benefit of the doubt. I really like the Norton version (Ang Lee's was too Ang-sty), but since he can't seem to act without directing at the same time he screwed himself out of this one.
 
2012-03-06 12:40:59 PM  
QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

images.wikia.com
 
2012-03-06 12:53:02 PM  
If this movie isnt at least 2 1/2 hours, It's going to suck. That's a lot of stuff to cram into less than 2 hours for sure.

Hopefully, it will be better than Thor and Captain America. And I think it will be hard to top Iron Man 1.
 
2012-03-06 12:56:00 PM  
I'm left wondering about the concept of an Ant Man movie...
 
2012-03-06 12:58:47 PM  
Dick Grayson?
 
2012-03-06 01:01:25 PM  
I would've guessed Thor, just because he's a god in a human world. Hulk is the same idea though. Each of the origin movies are about how the characters deal with their powers themselves. I don't know how you can make a good collaboration movie like this, because the theme is completely different, and everyone needs a story to make it any good.

Then again - I watched "Justice League Doom" the other day and realized that cartoon writers are way better at this than anyone else. If you haven't seen it, get on it immediately.
 
2012-03-06 01:01:46 PM  

ciderczar: Dick Grayson?


He's only hard in the "batcave".
 
2012-03-06 01:02:08 PM  

AiryAnne: If this movie isnt at least 2 1/2 hours, It's going to suck. That's a lot of stuff to cram into less than 2 hours for sure.

Hopefully, it will be better than Thor and Captain America. And I think it will be hard to top Iron Man 1.


Iron Man will always be hard to beat, and I think that's because Robert Downey Jr. IS Tony Stark. He was basically himself in the movie and everyone could easily believe it. The origins story was great as was the villain.

I'd put Captain American in between IM1 & 2 with Thor behind all 3 (parts were too gimmicky, which I can't fault too much when you're dealing with Alien/God races from another part of the galaxy).
 
2012-03-06 01:04:22 PM  

Wendy's Chili: QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

[images.wikia.com image 640x354]


Just rent "What's Love Got To Do With It". Pretty much the same story.
 
mhd
2012-03-06 01:06:53 PM  
Hey, I agree with something Joss Whedon said... Yes, what's Wonder Man all about, actually? Started out as engineer (Tony Stark writ small) and then they added this whole wannabe actor thing for the West Coast Avengers...

/OTOH, got a bit sick of the neverending Jekyll/Hyde Hulk plots. I kinda liked the recent animated version where the Hulk has come to an arrangement with Banner.
 
2012-03-06 01:10:04 PM  

Oafmeel: I'm left wondering about the concept of an Ant Man movie...


It's irreemable
 
2012-03-06 01:10:40 PM  

mhd: Hey, I agree with something Joss Whedon said... Yes, what's Wonder Man all about, actually? Started out as engineer (Tony Stark writ small) and then they added this whole wannabe actor thing for the West Coast Avengers...

/OTOH, got a bit sick of the neverending Jekyll/Hyde Hulk plots. I kinda liked the recent animated version where the Hulk has come to an arrangement with Banner.


Wonder Man fights evil as it comes... and gets his alter ego laid.

WONDER MAN!
 
2012-03-06 01:12:30 PM  
The Avengers is the comic book version of those 1970's calvalcade of star movies - like Poseidon Advaenture or Towering Inferno...I fully expect to see Shelly Winters or Earnest Bourganine at some point.
 
2012-03-06 01:19:14 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm gonna guess Hulk since they've had 3 different actors in 3 different movies.

*checks site*

Yep. I doubt everyone will like this incarnation of the Hulk too, but I'm willing to give Ruffalo the benefit of the doubt. I really like the Norton version (Ang Lee's was too Ang-sty), but since he can't seem to act without directing at the same time he screwed himself out of this one.


Is Hulk really that hard to write for? I guess "write well" since as a concept he is a character that a five year old can explain/identify "when ole green-skin get mad, HULK SMASH! NO BEDTIME FOR BANNER, PLAY WITH PUNY TOYS INSTEAD!" Combine with werewolf tropes, and done. I understand what Ang Lee was aiming for, but mostly Hulk is an excuse to watch a big green dude whomp things good. Spending the majority of a movie watch Puny Banner whine is easier on the budget, though.

This trailer made me want to believe, though (new window)
 
2012-03-06 01:21:15 PM  

MagSeven: Wendy's Chili: QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

[images.wikia.com image 640x354]

Just rent "What's Love Got To Do With It". Pretty much the same story.


It's worth pointing out that Hank Pym beating his wife is hardly the only horrible thing done by Marvel superheroes whom we're supposed to like. Richards slapped his wife around (albeit while she was possessed), but before that spent literally decades calling her an idiot and telling her she shouldn't leave the tower. Peter Parker not only punched his pregnant wife (without any magic or whatever to justify it), he then made a deal with a devil to erase his marriage (and child) to save his dying aunt (who had just told him she was ready to die peacefully). Xavier routinely mind-controlled his kids for decades (to the point of erasing their memories of an entire team of other kids he thought dead), not to mention it being implied he might have mentally raped several women (there are scenes of him rewriting the mind of women such as Amelia Voight and Moira McTaggert, while he was in relationships with them).

/nerd out.
 
2012-03-06 01:24:30 PM  

Fano: Is Hulk really that hard to write for?


I think that's the problem. Everyone thinks he's so easy to write for that they end up overanalzying him to give him more depth beyond "HULK SMASH, Banner sulk"

I think this will work because it won't entirely be focused on Hulk/Banner (unless he becomes an antagonist at some point, could swear I read a rumor about that).
 
2012-03-06 01:34:47 PM  
"Pretty much everyone but Wonder Man. I never did figure out what he was for."

Yeah. Me either.

Much like Strong Guy/Guido in X-Men. (though I liked him better)
 
2012-03-06 01:35:16 PM  

mattharvest: MagSeven: Wendy's Chili: QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

[images.wikia.com image 640x354]

Just rent "What's Love Got To Do With It". Pretty much the same story.

It's worth pointing out that Hank Pym beating his wife is hardly the only horrible thing done by Marvel superheroes whom we're supposed to like. Richards slapped his wife around (albeit while she was possessed), but before that spent literally decades calling her an idiot and telling her she shouldn't leave the tower. Peter Parker not only punched his pregnant wife (without any magic or whatever to justify it), he then made a deal with a devil to erase his marriage (and child) to save his dying aunt (who had just told him she was ready to die peacefully). Xavier routinely mind-controlled his kids for decades (to the point of erasing their memories of an entire team of other kids he thought dead), not to mention it being implied he might have mentally raped several women (there are scenes of him rewriting the mind of women such as Amelia Voight and Moira McTaggert, while he was in relationships with them).

/nerd out.


Magneto actively practiced & preached genocide and he's now an X-Man. Phoenix slaughtered billions of sentient life-forms when she devoured their sun, but came back & all was forgiven (except for the Shi'ar Empire. At least they had balls.) Wolverine killed Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene (could possibly be seen as justified but he could have just knocked her out cold).

I'm sure there are more examples but those are just off the top of my head.
 
2012-03-06 01:35:32 PM  
My fav Avenger has to be Emma Peel. That leather suit... meow.
 
2012-03-06 01:41:39 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: "Pretty much everyone but Wonder Man. I never did figure out what he was for."


His duty was to dress up in an awesome leisure suit and go on sexy double dates with the Beast... what more do you need?
 
2012-03-06 01:44:02 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: His duty was to dress up in an awesome leisure suit and go on sexy double dates with the Beast... what more do you need?


I thought it was just to be the place where those sunglasses could be put.

And the hip-rockets. Seriously?
 
2012-03-06 01:44:54 PM  

brigid_fitch: mattharvest: MagSeven: Wendy's Chili: QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

[images.wikia.com image 640x354]

Just rent "What's Love Got To Do With It". Pretty much the same story.

It's worth pointing out that Hank Pym beating his wife is hardly the only horrible thing done by Marvel superheroes whom we're supposed to like. Richards slapped his wife around (albeit while she was possessed), but before that spent literally decades calling her an idiot and telling her she shouldn't leave the tower. Peter Parker not only punched his pregnant wife (without any magic or whatever to justify it), he then made a deal with a devil to erase his marriage (and child) to save his dying aunt (who had just told him she was ready to die peacefully). Xavier routinely mind-controlled his kids for decades (to the point of erasing their memories of an entire team of other kids he thought dead), not to mention it being implied he might have mentally raped several women (there are scenes of him rewriting the mind of women such as Amelia Voight and Moira McTaggert, while he was in relationships with them).

/nerd out.

Magneto actively practiced & preached genocide and he's now an X-Man. Phoenix slaughtered billions of sentient life-forms when she devoured their sun, but came back & all was forgiven (except for the Shi'ar Empire. At least they had balls.) Wolverine killed Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene (could possibly be seen as justified but he could have just knocked her out cold).

I'm sure there are more examples but those are just off the top of my head.


Oh, and I guess we can add Rogue to the list, too. She stole Carol Danvers' powers, memories, and entire personality and she's now a major member of the X-Men. Carol's memories were restored but not the emotions attached to them. She was an unfeeling robot with no powers until somehow she became Binary (I forget how). There's some leeway for Rogue--she was a kid manipulated by Mystique and didn't mean to suck Danvers dry. And she went crazy trying to control her own personality as Danvers' mind tried to take control. But still a lot worse than Pym being temporarily insane and back-handing his wife ONCE.
 
2012-03-06 01:49:54 PM  

asmodeus224: The Avengers is the comic book version of those 1970's calvalcade of star movies - like Poseidon Advaenture or Towering Inferno...I fully expect to see Shelly Winters or Earnest Bourganine at some point.


Borgnine is stuck in his Spongebob contract?
 
2012-03-06 01:51:17 PM  

brigid_fitch: brigid_fitch: mattharvest: MagSeven: Wendy's Chili: QUESTION: We're missing such classic Avengers characters as the Scarlet Witch and The Vision from this line-up. Are there other Avengers you'd love to bring to the screen?

[images.wikia.com image 640x354]

Just rent "What's Love Got To Do With It". Pretty much the same story.

It's worth pointing out that Hank Pym beating his wife is hardly the only horrible thing done by Marvel superheroes whom we're supposed to like. Richards slapped his wife around (albeit while she was possessed), but before that spent literally decades calling her an idiot and telling her she shouldn't leave the tower. Peter Parker not only punched his pregnant wife (without any magic or whatever to justify it), he then made a deal with a devil to erase his marriage (and child) to save his dying aunt (who had just told him she was ready to die peacefully). Xavier routinely mind-controlled his kids for decades (to the point of erasing their memories of an entire team of other kids he thought dead), not to mention it being implied he might have mentally raped several women (there are scenes of him rewriting the mind of women such as Amelia Voight and Moira McTaggert, while he was in relationships with them).

/nerd out.

Magneto actively practiced & preached genocide and he's now an X-Man. Phoenix slaughtered billions of sentient life-forms when she devoured their sun, but came back & all was forgiven (except for the Shi'ar Empire. At least they had balls.) Wolverine killed Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene (could possibly be seen as justified but he could have just knocked her out cold).

I'm sure there are more examples but those are just off the top of my head.

Oh, and I guess we can add Rogue to the list, too. She stole Carol Danvers' powers, memories, and entire personality and she's now a major member of the X-Men. Carol's memories were restored but not the emotions attached to them. She was an unfeeling robot with ...


DONT YOU EVER TALK BAD ABOUT ROGUE! SHE AND I ARE GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY, YOU'LL SEE!
 
2012-03-06 02:00:06 PM  
Probably Spider-man, considering Sony has him held hostage.
 
2012-03-06 02:26:28 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: The Martian Manhandler: His duty was to dress up in an awesome leisure suit and go on sexy double dates with the Beast... what more do you need?

I thought it was just to be the place where those sunglasses could be put.

And the hip-rockets. Seriously?


When I was a kid, Wonder Man was my hero. That's who I wanted to grow up to be.
 
2012-03-06 02:39:13 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: When I was a kid, Wonder Man was my hero. That's who I wanted to grow up to be.


.....

ummm. I guess that's a goood thing?

Out of curiosity, why?

mimg.ugo.com
That's not a role model, that's the guy your parents didn't want talking to you :)
 
2012-03-06 02:41:16 PM  
From the U.K. Avengers trailer:

Bad Guy: "I have a Army."
Stony Stark: "We have a Hulk."
 
2012-03-06 02:43:16 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: The Martian Manhandler: When I was a kid, Wonder Man was my hero. That's who I wanted to grow up to be.

.....

ummm. I guess that's a goood thing?

Out of curiosity, why?

[mimg.ugo.com image 480x480]
That's not a role model, that's the guy your parents didn't want talking to you :)


Seeing that pic makes me all tingly. Oh to ever be that cool...
 
2012-03-06 02:48:18 PM  

brigid_fitch: Oh, and I guess we can add Rogue to the list, too. She stole Carol Danvers' powers, memories, and entire personality and she's now a major member of the X-Men. Carol's memories were restored but not the emotions attached to them. She was an unfeeling robot with no powers until somehow she became Binary (I forget how). There's some leeway for Rogue--she was a kid manipulated by Mystique and didn't mean to suck Danvers dry. And she went crazy trying to control her own personality as Danvers' mind tried to take control. But still a lot worse than Pym being temporarily insane and back-handing his wife ONCE.


Of course, that was hardly the last time Danvers would be screwed with: her son raped her, impregnating her with himself, and brainwashed her into thinking she wanted him.
 
2012-03-06 02:54:02 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: Seeing that pic makes me all tingly. Oh to ever be that cool...


Ha!

Even as a child, I knew it was a fashion disaster for a grown man to wear a ladies half-trench.

And under NO circumstances is the mullet cool.
www.marveldirectory.com
 
2012-03-06 02:54:41 PM  

brigid_fitch: Magneto actively practiced & preached genocide and he's now an X-Man.


Don't make me come in there.... (new window)
 
2012-03-06 02:58:43 PM  
I'm just miffed that they did not include the Wasp, who was with them from day one and never went to another group (except the occasional sideline story). I understand the Black Widow is smexiful and all, but Janet is as much the Avengers as Cap is.

I'm sure I will enjoy it, but I'm just irked.
 
2012-03-06 03:01:16 PM  

mhd: Yes, what's Wonder Man all about, actually?


Wonder Man, according to various wikis, was once a pawn of Baron Zemo. That means he was either a villain, a hero, an anti-hero, a nobody, dead, imagined, a hologram, a ghost, or all. Or none.

Every Baron Zemo story necessarily ends with you being dissatisfied about the time you invested in the reading of the thing.
 
2012-03-06 03:04:19 PM  
THIS is Wonder Man:

www.superherodb.com

And I'm not surprised Whedon couldn't figure him out; He's not a snarky waif who does spin-kicks.

I'm just waiting for the movies to catch up and give the Hulk actual lines. In the comics he has been able to talk since the beginning. In the movies and on TV, he's just a roaring monster.

Maybe he wasn't always smart in the comics, but there have been few times when he couldn't talk at all.

www.supermegamonkey.net
 
2012-03-06 03:06:05 PM  

KiplingKat872: I'm just miffed that they did not include the Wasp, who was with them from day one and never went to another group (except the occasional sideline story). I understand the Black Widow is smexiful and all, but Janet is as much the Avengers as Cap is.

I'm sure I will enjoy it, but I'm just irked.


I think it's because with the Wasp, it would look odd to have a tiny hero standing next to everyone of average and Hulk size. I know there's forced perspectives and all, but still.
 
2012-03-06 03:53:14 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Out of curiosity, why?

mimg.ugo.com
That's not a role model, that's the guy your parents didn't want talking to you :)


I never understood that one, either. I know they gave him that costume change when he started the West Coast Avengers but can't figure out why they chose a Leisure Suit Larry design. All I can say is that it was a step up from this:

i.annihil.us

He even looks like he's saying "What the fark am I WEARING?"
 
2012-03-06 03:53:17 PM  
I would say it's hard to write for Hawkeye, the guy with a bow and arrow on a team with a dude in a powersuit, an unfrozen super soldier, a man who changes into a beast, a woman who can alter probabilities, an android, a super scientist and a god, and gets to sit back saying, "Hey, me too guys, wait up!" while this team fights villains that can alter spacetime and eat planets.

But you know, Marvel just had to have its version of the Green Arrow.

/Not a huge fan of the Big 2, but Marvel is just nuts compared to DC's brand of crazy
 
2012-03-06 04:08:14 PM  
Oh, I don't know Mr. Whedon.... I thought Ang Lee did a good job with the Hulk. But, then again, this movie is about *all* the Avengers as a team.
 
2012-03-06 04:15:47 PM  
fourcolors.blogs.pressdemocrat.com

Hulk and his family's roles in Old Man Logan were my favorite.
 
2012-03-06 04:18:45 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: The Martian Manhandler: When I was a kid, Wonder Man was my hero. That's who I wanted to grow up to be.

.....

ummm. I guess that's a goood thing?

Out of curiosity, why?

[mimg.ugo.com image 480x480]
That's not a role model, that's the guy your parents didn't want talking to you :)


Thats Robert Evans. (new window)

INeedAName: DONT YOU EVER TALK BAD ABOUT ROGUE! SHE AND I ARE GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY, YOU'LL SEE!


Wrap it up, dude. Double bagged.
 
2012-03-06 04:40:51 PM  

2wolves: From the U.K. Avengers trailer:

Bad Guy: "I have a Army."
Stony Stark: "We have a Hulk."


Heh, and an angry Hulk = That army won't last long.

/Now less than 8 weeks away
 
2012-03-06 04:51:25 PM  

scottydoesntknow: AiryAnne: If this movie isnt at least 2 1/2 hours, It's going to suck. That's a lot of stuff to cram into less than 2 hours for sure.

Hopefully, it will be better than Thor and Captain America. And I think it will be hard to top Iron Man 1.

Iron Man will always be hard to beat, and I think that's because Robert Downey Jr. IS Tony Stark. He was basically himself in the movie and everyone could easily believe it. The origins story was great as was the villain.

I'd put Captain American in between IM1 & 2 with Thor behind all 3 (parts were too gimmicky, which I can't fault too much when you're dealing with Alien/God races from another part of the galaxy).


I actually think Captain America was the best movie they did out of the Avengers so far. This isn't some sort of rule, but I find that most people will put Iron Man above it and when pressed why, it usually amounts to "Robert Downey Jr is so cool/awesome/hot."

Fair enough I suppose, that's how blockbusters work.
 
2012-03-06 04:51:54 PM  
brigid_fitch:
Magneto actively practiced & preached genocide and he's now an X-Man. Phoenix slaughtered billions of sentient life-forms when she devoured their sun, but came back & all was forgiven (except for the Shi'ar Empire. At least they had balls.) Wolverine killed Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene (could possibly be seen as justified but he could have just knocked her out cold).

I'm sure there are more examples but those are just off the top of my head.


I was actually more surprised with the recent Quarantine Story Arc. A guy invented an energy drink using the mutant genome. This would allow you to temporarily take the powers of any number of mutants, one of which was Wolverine. Uncanny X-Men 533-4

Cyclops destroyed the whole supply and all of the research to make more of it and I wondered. "Wait. Couldn't hospitals use Wolverine formula to cure...everything? Instantly fix broken bones for example. You'll lose the Wolvie powers after an hour, but it's not like the bones would re-break. Any number of diseases would be cured. Bullet wounds, third degree burns cured within minutes. Maybe even cancer, blindness and deafness. And Cyclops denied this miracle cure for all things to the humans.

Frankly I think it made him one of the worst villains in history.
 
2012-03-06 05:12:09 PM  

AiryAnne: If this movie isnt at least 2 1/2 hours, It's going to suck. That's a lot of stuff to cram into less than 2 hours for sure.

Hopefully, it will be better than Thor and Captain America. And I think it will be hard to top Iron Man 1.


Captain America would be hard to top, it hit the 1940s tone nail pretty much right on the head, making it be far the most literate movie in the set without sacrificing any of the explosions or critter bits that make a proper superhero movie. It didn't have the single-actor-dominating-everything vibe, either (part of the '40s style writing for war films), which I guess is your thing if you thought Iron Man 1 was the best, but it had actual characterization, which was nice.

And the movie could easily come in around 90 minutes if they want. They just have to avoid some of the retarded things that every superhero movie apparently usually does now:

- Skip the origin stories (or slideshow them in the opening credits, whatever) of the individual characters and the team. Start with the team already together, etc.

- Don't try to have a thousand goddamned villains presented as equally important. Main bad guy, lieutenant bad guy, mooks. Done.

- Refrain from making people obnoxiously angsty about having godlike powers. Avengers Hulk actually doesn't have any of the issues of standalone hulk, he can think and talk and balance a checkbook and so on, so don't try to shove it in.

There. Squad of heroes with fairly specific special powers has to break into Dr. Villain's spectacular fortress of doom before he can activate the super maguffin and RULE ZE WORLD. 90 minutes, plenty of room for group dynamic development, done. Basically "saving private Ryan" with plasma weapons and telekinesis.
 
2012-03-06 05:14:06 PM  

TwistedFark: scottydoesntknow: AiryAnne: If this movie isnt at least 2 1/2 hours, It's going to suck. That's a lot of stuff to cram into less than 2 hours for sure.

Hopefully, it will be better than Thor and Captain America. And I think it will be hard to top Iron Man 1.

Iron Man will always be hard to beat, and I think that's because Robert Downey Jr. IS Tony Stark. He was basically himself in the movie and everyone could easily believe it. The origins story was great as was the villain.

I'd put Captain American in between IM1 & 2 with Thor behind all 3 (parts were too gimmicky, which I can't fault too much when you're dealing with Alien/God races from another part of the galaxy).

I actually think Captain America was the best movie they did out of the Avengers so far. This isn't some sort of rule, but I find that most people will put Iron Man above it and when pressed why, it usually amounts to "Robert Downey Jr is so cool/awesome/hot."

Fair enough I suppose, that's how blockbusters work.


Story-wise, they're completely different, since Capt. America has so much more ground to cover. And the Capt. America movie's done in a more comic-book way, while Iron Man's a straight action film with one linear storyline--escape bad guys w/amazing tech, create more advanced amazing tech, fight crime, battle your crazy former partner, receive adulation. People who aren't Iron Man fans can still enjoy the action & simple story. You have to pay attention a little more in Capt. America, plus 99% of it is a period piece.

They're probably on the same level but I'll definitely say I'm biased towards Iron Man because of RDJ--always loved his stuff.
 
2012-03-06 05:26:08 PM  
www.buffalorising.com
 
2012-03-06 05:29:38 PM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: Frankly I think it made him one of the worst villains in history.


Cyclops became "Magneto-lite" several years ago, they just don't want to admit it.
 
2012-03-06 05:30:37 PM  

brigid_fitch: You have to pay attention a little more in Capt. America, plus 99% of it is a period piece.

They're probably on the same level but I'll definitely say I'm biased towards Iron Man because of RDJ--always loved his stuff.


I'll be honest, I had no farking clue what the cube that Red Skull had actually did when I first saw the movie. It's things like that (which a C.A. comic reader would've instantly known) that can make it hard for casual movie goers to really understand what's going on. You didn't need a cursory knowledge of the Marvel Universe to understand Iron Man, whereas you kinda did for Captain America.

Like I said though, C.A. falls right behind the first Iron Man. I loved it and have watched it a few times.
 
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