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(Talking Points Memo)   It's do or die for Romney, Santorum, the fat troll, and the old guy with the big ears as Super Tuesday is here. So grab your capes, power rings, and golden lassos for the Super Tuesday Discussion Thread   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line 1697
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2012-03-06 07:24:57 PM  
Game Change the movie ad. HOLY SHIAT THAT IS A SCARY-ASS RESEMBLANCE.
 
2012-03-06 07:25:12 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: E) None of the Above. Liked Herman Cain and thats about it.


Sounds about right.
 
2012-03-06 07:25:25 PM  
Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released
 
2012-03-06 07:25:27 PM  

whidbey: More like "Super Waste of Money" discussion.

Seriously. Why are we still pretending these candidates are any kind of cromulent alternative to the present administration?

What is WRONG with you people??


Um...er...socialism? Near?
 
2012-03-06 07:25:56 PM  

RminusQ: Game Change the movie ad. HOLY SHIAT THAT IS A SCARY-ASS RESEMBLANCE.


Julianne Moore has always had a special place in my bunk.
 
2012-03-06 07:26:11 PM  

The Bestest: Chuck Todd saying the Santorum campaign completely blew it in Ohio.


I'm completely shocked that Santorum blew something. FWIW, I think Santorum didn't honestly believe he'd still be around at this point. Sadly, that's the only thing he said that he doesn't believe.
 
2012-03-06 07:26:20 PM  

Weaver95:

Romney might be forced to compromise. Santorm is beloved of the derpier religious right, the ones who think Romney is a cultist. In order to lock down their votes, Romney might have to bed Santorum to seal the deal.


Perhaps. But most people with half a grasp on reality would realize that combo would alienate so many moderates that it won't be a loss. It would be them getting butchered. Not quite Reagan v. Mondale level, given how lockstep the Republican base tends to be, but still likely more so than Obama trounced McCain.

After all, Palin was just stupid. Frothy is genuinely repulsive to a sizable chunks of moderates, and that could be the driving force to get moderates to the polls, and maybe even keep Democrats on their toes - since their biggest enemy this cycle isn't the Republicans; it's apathy.

In a perfect world, this would be the event that either destroys the Republicans so an actual conservative party could step up, or they would shed dead weight. Unfortunately, I'm sure they'll just conclude they didn't go nutbag enough and head further to the right. Not to mention the system is gamed in such a way no other party has a chance to fill the gaps. I don't see any good coming of the election, in spite of my hopes it leads to something better.
 
2012-03-06 07:26:33 PM  

RminusQ: Game Change the movie ad. HOLY SHIAT THAT IS A SCARY-ASS RESEMBLANCE.


That was goddamn amazing. Julianne Moore is a better match than Tina Fey.

/mmm, Julianne Moore and Tina Fey
//bunk
 
2012-03-06 07:26:44 PM  

whidbey: More like "Super Waste of Money" discussion.

Seriously. Why are we still pretending these candidates are any kind of cromulent alternative to the present administration?

What is WRONG with you people??


Because news networks have to embiggen their bottom lines, duh!
 
2012-03-06 07:27:07 PM  

TheManofPA: Weaver95: Luneward: Weaver95: i'm hoping for a Romney/Santorum ticket against Obama. The GOP would be toast.

As much as I would love to see it, I ever so highly doubt Romney would pick Santorum. He and his handlers may have learned enough from the Sarah Palin example that he's likely to pick someone fairly safe while identifiably conservative. (Safe being translated as: Not saying so much batshiat stupid crap - which is most of the current crop of nominees)

Romney might be forced to compromise. Santorm is beloved of the derpier religious right, the ones who think Romney is a cultist. In order to lock down their votes, Romney might have to bed Santorum to seal the deal.

Problem is if he picks Santorum, he loses every moderate vote out there and Obama rolls. He needs to go midline and figure that the derpest of the derps will vote for him simply because they can't have a black guy in office for 4 more years. I mean, why even try for that portion of the vote, they'll either stay home or vote him. Not a chance that the Tea Party would go Democrat and most likely they would vote rather than stay home.

At this point, he would have to do his homework, pick someone not in the race but has no crazy in them and pray that if there is a close primary that no one goes Rogue/third party on the ballot and soaks up 7-10 percent of the vote.


Who's out there that's viable though? Christie? Pawlenty? Daniels? Jindal?
 
2012-03-06 07:27:09 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released


Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.
 
2012-03-06 07:27:36 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: Chupacabra Sandwich: Cup_O_Jo: In Georgia-Voted for Ron Paul. Seriously,and they project Newt will be the winner and I am like I don't know. It's 7:10 project all ya want..but seriously...I was thinking Santorum would probably win because of the Jesus freaks. Stupid Jesus freaks. Get your Jesus outta politics.

A) Stupid
B) Drunk
C) Troll
D) Ron Paul

E) None of the Above. Liked Herman Cain and thats about it.


So that's A at least...
 
2012-03-06 07:28:22 PM  

TheManofPA: Weaver95: Luneward: Weaver95: i'm hoping for a Romney/Santorum ticket against Obama. The GOP would be toast.

As much as I would love to see it, I ever so highly doubt Romney would pick Santorum. He and his handlers may have learned enough from the Sarah Palin example that he's likely to pick someone fairly safe while identifiably conservative. (Safe being translated as: Not saying so much batshiat stupid crap - which is most of the current crop of nominees)

Romney might be forced to compromise. Santorm is beloved of the derpier religious right, the ones who think Romney is a cultist. In order to lock down their votes, Romney might have to bed Santorum to seal the deal.

Problem is if he picks Santorum, he loses every moderate vote out there and Obama rolls. He needs to go midline and figure that the derpest of the derps will vote for him simply because they can't have a black guy in office for 4 more years. I mean, why even try for that portion of the vote, they'll either stay home or vote him. Not a chance that the Tea Party would go Democrat and most likely they would vote rather than stay home.


I think he'll see Santorum as someone who will otherwise energise people towards his ticket. Romney will certainly draw quite a bit of the Anyone But Obama crowd, but no one really seems to be voting for him, unlike the other candidates. Granted, it would be a terrible move to pick Santorum and there's certainly better choices of people to choose, but Romney seems to make pretty consistently stupid mistakes and he doesn't seem to be all that creative in his decisions.
 
2012-03-06 07:28:32 PM  

The Bestest: TheManofPA: Weaver95: Luneward: Weaver95: i'm hoping for a Romney/Santorum ticket against Obama. The GOP would be toast.

As much as I would love to see it, I ever so highly doubt Romney would pick Santorum. He and his handlers may have learned enough from the Sarah Palin example that he's likely to pick someone fairly safe while identifiably conservative. (Safe being translated as: Not saying so much batshiat stupid crap - which is most of the current crop of nominees)

Romney might be forced to compromise. Santorm is beloved of the derpier religious right, the ones who think Romney is a cultist. In order to lock down their votes, Romney might have to bed Santorum to seal the deal.

Problem is if he picks Santorum, he loses every moderate vote out there and Obama rolls. He needs to go midline and figure that the derpest of the derps will vote for him simply because they can't have a black guy in office for 4 more years. I mean, why even try for that portion of the vote, they'll either stay home or vote him. Not a chance that the Tea Party would go Democrat and most likely they would vote rather than stay home.

At this point, he would have to do his homework, pick someone not in the race but has no crazy in them and pray that if there is a close primary that no one goes Rogue/third party on the ballot and soaks up 7-10 percent of the vote.

Who's out there that's viable though? Christie? Pawlenty? Daniels? Jindal?


And that's the big problem. Christie is pushing hard I think to try and be the person. Pawlenty is probably the best choice.
 
2012-03-06 07:28:38 PM  

Weaver95: i'm hoping for a Romney/Santorum ticket against Obama. The GOP would be toast.


You may get your wish. What I'm not sure of is the fundies taking 2nd spot on the ticket after getting 'Their Guy' elected to 2 terms. I think they may bolt the party.
 
2012-03-06 07:28:50 PM  

vygramul: Julianne Moore has always had a special place in my bunk.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-06 07:28:58 PM  
I'm also kind of saddened that spreadingsantorum.com is now only the 4th result on a google search for "santorum." I don't know when that happened, but it's like another little candle of happiness in this dark world has been snuffed out.
 
2012-03-06 07:29:24 PM  

RminusQ: Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released

Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.


They cut him? Luck's going to bust. I can feel it in my lulz.
 
2012-03-06 07:29:37 PM  

The Bestest: Who's out there that's viable though? Christie? Pawlenty? Daniels? Jindal?


McDonnell. He hasn't signed the VA ultrasound rape law yet. Whether he does or not depends on who wins the primary. If it's Romney, he'll sign it so that he's conservative enough for the GOP base.
 
2012-03-06 07:30:40 PM  

netweavr: RminusQ: Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released

Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.

They cut him? Luck's going to bust. I can feel it in my lulz.


They informed the other teams of his availability. Official press conference tomorrow. Dolphins announced their intent to pursue his services
 
2012-03-06 07:30:42 PM  
By the way, we won't hear shiat from North Dakota for a while. It's a caucus state, and you can go to the caucus between 5:30 and 8:00pm CT (new window).

Yeah, as Maddow said, "the caucuses have begun."
 
2012-03-06 07:31:06 PM  

Lost Thought 00: netweavr: RminusQ: Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released

Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.

They cut him? Luck's going to bust. I can feel it in my lulz.

They informed the other teams of his availability. Official press conference tomorrow. Dolphins announced their intent to pursue his services


Sounds like SF's going to take a shot at him too.
 
2012-03-06 07:31:20 PM  
Jeebus, I so hate Santorum.
 
2012-03-06 07:31:30 PM  
Damn. Frothy behind in Ohio. Expected but disappointing. Is Ohio winner take all?
 
2012-03-06 07:32:16 PM  

RminusQ: By the way, we won't hear shiat from North Dakota for a while. It's a caucus state, and you can go to the caucus between 5:30 and 8:00pm CT (new window).

Yeah, as Maddow said, "the caucuses have begun."


Ah, that makes a lot more sense. For some reason I swear MSNBC said they were closing
 
2012-03-06 07:33:46 PM  
Matthews is going off about the Super PACs and, sadly, I think he's right
 
2012-03-06 07:34:09 PM  

netweavr: Lost Thought 00: netweavr: RminusQ: Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released

Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.

They cut him? Luck's going to bust. I can feel it in my lulz.

They informed the other teams of his availability. Official press conference tomorrow. Dolphins announced their intent to pursue his services

Sounds like SF's going to take a shot at him too.


Waiting for a Manning thread to go green. Definitely more interesting than this crap.
 
2012-03-06 07:34:17 PM  
Based on the % of precincts reporting as of 7:30 EST (according to Google), current projected vote totals & % change from 2008:

Virginia: 213095 (-56.4%)
Vermont: 15467 (-61.2%)

Georgia might get more than 2008, but so far it's less than 1% reporting so I'll wait till more results are in to report on that.
 
2012-03-06 07:35:37 PM  

ariseatex: Based on the % of precincts reporting as of 7:30 EST (according to Google), current projected vote totals & % change from 2008:

Virginia: 213095 (-56.4%)
Vermont: 15467 (-61.2%)

Georgia might get more than 2008, but so far it's less than 1% reporting so I'll wait till more results are in to report on that.


This is bad news . . . .for not Obama
 
2012-03-06 07:36:10 PM  

muck4doo: netweavr: Lost Thought 00: netweavr: RminusQ: Lost Thought 00: Wow, polls close super early in Dakota. Also, way to strike while the iron is hot on that Palin movie

/Manning released

Now THAT'S some motherfarking breaking news.

They cut him? Luck's going to bust. I can feel it in my lulz.

They informed the other teams of his availability. Official press conference tomorrow. Dolphins announced their intent to pursue his services

Sounds like SF's going to take a shot at him too.

Waiting for a Manning thread to go green. Definitely more interesting than this crap.


Manning probably stands a better chance in the general election against Obama, too.
 
2012-03-06 07:36:10 PM  
Mr 999 is on CNBC right now
 
2012-03-06 07:36:12 PM  
BTW, I'll update my fairly conservative delegation allocations HERE until at least 1:00am ET.
 
2012-03-06 07:36:29 PM  
And WOW, the TEA Party is breaking for Romney according to exit polls! I'm shocked that they would just fall in line like that! SHOCKED!
 
2012-03-06 07:37:06 PM  
What is really sad to see, as an outsider from Canada, is that these four candidates are the best that the GOP have to offer for presidency..... none of these guys are inspirational, innovators and/or leaders.

Obama will be a two-term president...guaranteed.
 
2012-03-06 07:37:15 PM  

muck4doo: Jeebus, I so hate Santorum.


Yeah - it's real tough to get out of your sheets.
 
2012-03-06 07:37:54 PM  
Romney "wins" Vermont. However:

Republican results: Romney 1030, Santorum 803, Paul 552, Gingrich 194, other 108, write-in 19.
Democratic results: Obama 1605, write-in 37.

Your milkshake. Obama drinks it.
 
2012-03-06 07:38:10 PM  

ranold: What is really sad to see, as an outsider from Canada, is that these four candidates are the best that the GOP have to offer for presidency..... none of these guys are inspirational, innovators and/or leaders.

Obama will be a two-term president...guaranteed.


Eh? Maybe not all three at the same time, but they're still better than Harper.
 
2012-03-06 07:38:42 PM  
Considering that Romney is outspending Rick by squillions of dollars to get these marginal victories: will the GOP turn against the Citizens United ruling too?
 
2012-03-06 07:38:46 PM  
Vermont for Romney
 
2012-03-06 07:39:04 PM  

ranold: What is really sad to see, as an outsider from Canada, is that these four candidates are the best that the GOP have to offer for presidency..... none of these guys are inspirational, innovators and/or leaders.

Obama will be a two-term president...guaranteed.


Generally, you don't put your best guys forward against a presidential incumbent unless he's massively unpopular and/or the economy is going to shiat. Neither is the case this round.
 
2012-03-06 07:39:59 PM  

RminusQ: Romney "wins" Vermont. However:

Republican results: Romney 1030, Santorum 803, Paul 552, Gingrich 194, other 108, write-in 19.
Democratic results: Obama 1605, write-in 37.

Your milkshake. Obama drinks it.


I'm wondering where they found more than 1000 Republicans in Vermont. I thought you had to sign a loyalty pledge to the Socialist party just to be allowed to pedal your car through that state.
 
2012-03-06 07:40:29 PM  
The reason Obama will be re-elected, is because none of the Republican candidates are conservative enough.
 
2012-03-06 07:40:40 PM  
I so badly want Santorum to win Ohio
 
2012-03-06 07:40:59 PM  

vygramul: RminusQ: Game Change the movie ad. HOLY SHIAT THAT IS A SCARY-ASS RESEMBLANCE.

Julianne Moore has always had a special place in my bunk.


And she is almost always naked in her roles.
 
2012-03-06 07:41:01 PM  

WhoIsWillo: [grantjkidney.com image 500x299]


Run, Ricky Run!!!
 
2012-03-06 07:41:27 PM  

ranold: What is really sad to see, as an outsider from Canada, is that these four candidates are the best that the GOP have to offer for presidency..... none of these guys are inspirational, innovators and/or leaders.

Obama will be a two-term president...guaranteed.


The problem is that Obama has helped the GOP back itself into a corner by governing from the center on most issues. The GOP convinces its base with bare assertions of Obama being an extremist, and some of our slower independents and centrists fall for it, but for the most part, unless the economy heads south in the next 6 months, Obama is golden. If unemployment is down under 7%, which is possible but by no means certain, then he'll win by double-digits again.
 
2012-03-06 07:41:29 PM  
we're all winners

oh, and so's the black guy
 
2012-03-06 07:42:46 PM  
Jim_Callahan

Generally, you don't put your best guys forward against a presidential incumbent unless he's massively unpopular and/or the economy is going to shiat. Neither is the case this round.


We'll if you have watched the news over the last three years, Obama's popularity and economy hasn't been that great.....and yet the GOP can't take him on with quality and substance...
 
2012-03-06 07:43:56 PM  
How's Frothy looking in Ohio exits?
 
2012-03-06 07:44:28 PM  
Ron Paul giving his BSABSVR speech
 
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