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(Fond du Lac Reporter)   Good news alcoholics: Mercedes is making flying cars. And if you drive 'em while intoxicated you can keep your license - as long as you're friends with the District Attorney. (With video goodness of "flying" car arrest)   (fdlreporter.com ) divider line
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2012-03-05 01:48:57 PM  
I don't understand why everyone doesn't take Wisconsin seriously about our drunk driving protocols.

/Climbing in a Piper Cub to head to the Irish pub...
 
2012-03-05 01:52:57 PM  
Great. Now alcoholics can go all September 11th all over the place.
 
2012-03-05 01:55:16 PM  
That article confused the hell out of me.
 
2012-03-05 02:03:13 PM  

Barfmaker: That article confused the hell out of me.


Maybe Colleen Kottke wrote the story while flying her airplane. It seems like it would be a valid excuse for drinking.
 
2012-03-05 02:55:01 PM  
Well I'm glad that the DA will bend the law to its breaking point to help a pal. I'm sure he'd do the same for any one of us.
 
M-G
2012-03-05 02:57:40 PM  
Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:

www.yallaf1.com
 
2012-03-05 03:00:06 PM  
Some citizens are more equal than others.
 
2012-03-05 03:04:05 PM  
Why should anyone have any respect for the process when such things are allowed to happen?
 
2012-03-05 03:07:30 PM  
Hey! We can't be putting our Job Creators in jail with unemployment the way it is, now can we?
 
2012-03-05 03:09:09 PM  
So now I can fly with no hands? AWESOME.
 
2012-03-05 03:11:21 PM  
Excellent display of GOP values there. Thanks Republican District Attorney Dan Kaminsky!

...allowing Schreiber to avoid a suspension of his driver's license...
...The way the plea was entered allowed Schreiber to avoid mandatory year-long use of an ignition interlock device...
...Kaminsky said there was "absolutely nothing improper or unusual about this resolution that was approved by the court."...
 
2012-03-05 03:14:21 PM  

M-G: Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:


That's not the Mercedez I was looking for.

/you can go about your business
 
2012-03-05 03:14:25 PM  
All I want is a flying motorcycle.

img471.imageshack.us
"You had your chance!"
 
2012-03-05 03:15:32 PM  

Great Odins Raven: Why should anyone have any respect for the process when such things are allowed to happen?


The process is the best process we have, it's the fact that people are used in the process that are muck up the works.
 
2012-03-05 03:18:26 PM  
The DA didn't want to charge his buddy with a DUI, so, they said he was flying an aircraft? Fine. The FAA should go after the guy for operating the aircraft without a license or medical.
 
2012-03-05 03:19:04 PM  
Ok, so as someone who kinda knows Muskego (where said bonehead is from)... why the hell was he going all the way to FdL to fly when there are a metricshiat ton of airfields in and around Waukesha County? Especially ones that don't involve driving 75 miles one way just to access. Not like the prosecutor would be any less leinient to someone with his bank roll...
 
2012-03-05 03:20:05 PM  
Fail no matter which angle you look at it.

DA ammended the charge to help his friend, to give him an offense that wouldn't actually count against him.
-or-
DA had "serious problems" with "inconsistent" test results and still managed to convict someone of some BS charge with bad evidence.

Either one is unacceptable. Both cases would be blatant abuses of power.
 
2012-03-05 03:22:21 PM  
Actually, in America you can do pretty much anything you want if you are friends with the district attorney.

/Just kidding. You don't have to be friends

//Although that helps

///But giving them lots of money helps more. .
 
2012-03-05 03:23:37 PM  

M-G: Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:

[www.yallaf1.com image 432x420]


+1 internetz to you for a picture of 'Ol Flippy.
 
2012-03-05 03:27:42 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Ok, so as someone who kinda knows Muskego (where said bonehead is from)... why the hell was he going all the way to FdL to fly when there are a metricshiat ton of airfields in and around Waukesha County? Especially ones that don't involve driving 75 miles one way just to access. Not like the prosecutor would be any less leinient to someone with his bank roll...


He wasn't going to FdL to fly - it was a way to have him pay the fine of a DUI but not have the first strike mandatory ignition lock/6-months suspended license.
 
2012-03-05 03:30:32 PM  
I've always said its not what you know, but more of who you know, and how much you're willing to bribe
 
2012-03-05 03:30:54 PM  
This sickens me. I'm old enough now that I should be used to this sort of crap, but every once and a while I just want to kick a puppy in disgust at how "equal" we all really are.
 
2012-03-05 03:33:52 PM  

plastic_cow: Ken VeryBigLiar: Ok, so as someone who kinda knows Muskego (where said bonehead is from)... why the hell was he going all the way to FdL to fly when there are a metricshiat ton of airfields in and around Waukesha County? Especially ones that don't involve driving 75 miles one way just to access. Not like the prosecutor would be any less leinient to someone with his bank roll...

He wasn't going to FdL to fly - it was a way to have him pay the fine of a DUI but not have the first strike mandatory ignition lock/6-months suspended license.


But for the charge of operating a plane under the influence to even have merit (what precious little it might have in the first place) he would have been flying at some point in the area? I'm also betting if he's the Preisdent of BCBS WI, the company will live with him needing an SR-22 and an ignition lock on the company car for 6-12 months.
 
2012-03-05 03:39:25 PM  
I know Larry, although I haven't worked with him much at his current job, and he's a heck of a nice guy.

That said, there's no excuse for what he did, or for the treatment he got. He should have just manned up and taken the DUI. The DA who cut this deal should be fired.
 
2012-03-05 03:44:36 PM  

BigBooper: I know Larry, although I haven't worked with him much at his current job, and he's a heck of a nice guy.

That said, there's no excuse for what he did, or for the treatment he got. He should have just manned up and taken the DUI. The DA who cut this deal should be fired.


If only there was a way for a group of people to get together as a community and select a replacement.
 
2012-03-05 03:46:03 PM  

Barfmaker: That article confused the hell out of me.


Poorly written.article.

Essentially the rich connected guy was arrested for a clear DUI. However he either had friends in the D.A.s office or higher so they allowed him to plead guilty to operating an aircraft while intoxicated and pay the fine for that. The DA could then count it as a conviction but since it isnt a driving offense the guy didn't lose his license.everyone left happy until the press dug it up, now the DA's office is scrambling to justify it in a way that minimizes their thumb being on the scale.
 
2012-03-05 04:21:08 PM  

Digitalstrange: Barfmaker: That article confused the hell out of me.

Poorly written.article.

Essentially the rich connected guy was arrested for a clear DUI. However he either had friends in the D.A.s office or higher so they allowed him to plead guilty to operating an aircraft while intoxicated and pay the fine for that. The DA could then count it as a conviction but since it isnt a driving offense the guy didn't lose his license.everyone left happy until the press dug it up, now the DA's office is scrambling to justify it in a way that minimizes their thumb being on the scale.


I'm sure the fact that the DA is an elected official, and that Larry is the president of a major employer in the area had nothing to do with it. The DA probably just wanted to help the poor guy out.
 
2012-03-05 04:24:10 PM  
Kaminsky said. "This was a non-criminal offense for which there is a wide discretion in formulating a resolution."

Wait, drunk driving is not a criminal offense?

Nor is Drunk Flying?
 
2012-03-05 04:25:27 PM  
A good lawyer knows the law
A great lawyer knows the judge
The best lawyer knows the district attorney.

I've got a little feeling that somewhere in the Grand Caymans or Lichtenstein there's a brand new account with 6 figures in it. Either that or someone has the guarantee of some substantial backing for a run at a congressional seat.
 
2012-03-05 04:26:54 PM  
Hmm. My girlfriend just got popped for a DUI. Maybe I can talk the DA into a plea bargain where she'll plead guilty to operating a lunar lander under the influence. I don't think you lose your license for that...
 
2012-03-05 04:27:46 PM  
"Deputy Eric Halbach." Heh, I lived with this prick in college.
 
2012-03-05 04:29:24 PM  

CheekyMonkey: operating a lunar lander under the influence.


ha, can you imagine an ignition lock on that.

I could foresee alot of farkers trapped on the moon.
 
2012-03-05 04:33:06 PM  
He's a job creator. He deserves a break.
 
2012-03-05 04:35:26 PM  
img138.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-05 04:40:20 PM  

OscarTamerz: I've got a little feeling that somewhere in the Grand Caymans or Lichtenstein there's a brand new account with 6 figures in it. Either that or someone has the guarantee of some substantial backing for a run at a congressional seat.


It's Fond du Lac, he'd do it for a case of Schlitz and ten pounds of venison jerky.
 
2012-03-05 04:42:44 PM  
Am I the only one who thought of the flying Mercedes from Spaceballs?

"Barf!"

"Not in here mister! This is a Mercedes!"
 
2012-03-05 04:43:42 PM  

M-G: Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:

[www.yallaf1.com image 432x420]


They've been doing it longer then that.

img.metro.co.uk

/hot like a horrific magnesium fire
 
2012-03-05 04:44:14 PM  
"Someone I know" was arrested for DUI once. This person rolled a stop sign, and blew .134 on the street and .09 at the station. After a night in the drunk tank, this person walked directly to a law firm from jail. The small-town lawyer worked a deal that is common in Virginia, reduce the charge to reckless driving so as not to tarnish a clean criminal record, but require the offender to agree to all of the DUI penalties including: $500 fine, 6 months restricted license, and ASAP class.

See, the ASAP class shows up on the driving record, so any cop pulling this person over in the future can tell that the reckless conviction is reduced from DUI. They call it a "wet reckless".
 
2012-03-05 04:50:49 PM  

urban.derelict: M-G: Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:

That's not the Mercedez I was looking for.

/you can go about your business


A Mercedez almost hit me on my way to church Sunday. I tell ya, they rival BMWs for the asshole driver award.
 
2012-03-05 04:51:32 PM  
Soooo...

...if he was found guilty of operating an aircraft while intoxicated...

...that would mean he'd lose his pilot's license...

...but TFA said that he doesn't have a pilot's license, which is one of the reasons this plea was chosen...

...so doesn't that mean he's ALSO guilty of flying without a pilot's license??? I mean, he either flew while drunk of he DIDN'T fly while drunk...
 
2012-03-05 04:52:43 PM  

iron_city_ap: The DA didn't want to charge his buddy with a DUI, so, they said he was flying an aircraft? Fine. The FAA should go after the guy for operating the aircraft without a license or medical.


Bingo
 
2012-03-05 04:52:45 PM  
An article that sadly proves my golden rule.
Those with the gold, make the rules.
 
2012-03-05 04:53:27 PM  
Flying car, though not a Mercedes:

i.imgur.com

/sorry
 
2012-03-05 04:58:47 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Hmm. My girlfriend just got popped for a DUI. Maybe I can talk the DA into a plea bargain where she'll plead guilty to operating a lunar lander under the influence. I don't think you lose your license for that...


Is your girlfriend hot? Cause round these parts It's normal for evidence to be lost in exchange for a beej.
 
2012-03-05 04:59:44 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: plastic_cow: Ken VeryBigLiar: Ok, so as someone who kinda knows Muskego (where said bonehead is from)... why the hell was he going all the way to FdL to fly when there are a metricshiat ton of airfields in and around Waukesha County? Especially ones that don't involve driving 75 miles one way just to access. Not like the prosecutor would be any less leinient to someone with his bank roll...

He wasn't going to FdL to fly - it was a way to have him pay the fine of a DUI but not have the first strike mandatory ignition lock/6-months suspended license.

But for the charge of operating a plane under the influence to even have merit (what precious little it might have in the first place) he would have been flying at some point in the area? I'm also betting if he's the Preisdent of BCBS WI, the company will live with him needing an SR-22 and an ignition lock on the company car for 6-12 months.


Thats the point, a DA can technically plead a charge down to anything they want as long as both sides agree and they can get a judge to agree to it as well. There was no merit here, the DA's office did him a favor.
 
2012-03-05 05:00:44 PM  

M-G: Mercedes has been making flying cars for years:
[www.yallaf1.com image 432x420]

For the drivers sake I hope he landed nose first. If he landed back on the wheels from that height he'd come out 3 inches shorter.

I got in trouble years ago, paid my lawyer $5k for a trial that we didn't win. While I'm in jail my lawyer gets the exact same charge under worse circumstances, then he made a $2k contribution to the DA's re-election fund and the case got dropped.

I called him from jail saying "Really, All I had to do was slide the DA 2 grand? Why didn't you tell me to do that before we went to trial".
 
2012-03-05 05:01:44 PM  
A local radio host here in Austin got a DWI dismissed by calling the Austin Police Chief, Art Acevedo, from jail; the same Police Chief who happens to be a frequent guest on his radio show.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/prosecutor-says-evidence-lacking -i n-dwi-arrest-of-1537631.html (new window)
 
2012-03-05 05:07:16 PM  

capt.hollister: iron_city_ap: The DA didn't want to charge his buddy with a DUI, so, they said he was flying an aircraft? Fine. The FAA should go after the guy for operating the aircraft without a license or medical.

Bingo


That would end comically.

FAA: You admitted to operating an aircraft under the influence without a license. Enjoy this nice Federal offense on your record
Larry: No I didn't
FAA: What were you operating?
Larry: Errrrrrrr

DOJ: Hey Mr. DA, is this a car or an aircraft?
DA: Errrrrrrr
DOJ: Purjured !
 
2012-03-05 05:15:20 PM  

iron_city_ap: capt.hollister: iron_city_ap: The DA didn't want to charge his buddy with a DUI, so, they said he was flying an aircraft? Fine. The FAA should go after the guy for operating the aircraft without a license or medical.

Bingo

That would end comically.

FAA: You admitted to operating an aircraft under the influence without a license. Enjoy this nice Federal offense on your record
Larry: No I didn't
FAA: What were you operating?
Larry: Errrrrrrr

DOJ: Hey Mr. DA, is this a car or an aircraft?
DA: Errrrrrrr
DOJ: Purjured !


It would go more along the lines of: Link (new window)

/I plead the FIF!
 
2012-03-05 05:22:42 PM  

Digitalstrange: Thats the point, a DA can technically plead a charge down to anything they want as long as both sides agree and they can get a judge to agree to it as well. There was no merit here, the DA's office did him a favor.


I guess I'm not seeing where he's really saving him much since the revised DUI says (unless aircraft are excluded) that DUI in say, a boat/snowmobile/ATV/jet-ski,etc.= a DUI in a car. Again, maybe aircraft are excluded since they didn't think it would become an eventuality but to spare him an ignition iterlock and having to get an occupational license? Seems like a looooong way to go for an exceedingly short reward.
 
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