jjorsett: ow about when Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "talk slut"? Or are the "women you know" selective in their outrage?

Link (new window)

At least Schulz didn't double down and then fake apologize.

shivashakti: He'll need to get caught in a gay sex or pedophilia scandal or something much more major than this for his career to be ruined.

All that would do is allow him to pick up the Dominican Republic Tourism Board as a sponsor.

What does Greaseman think?

CSB warning:

Years ago Mr. Imus called me to design his studio for his comeback after the "nappy incident."
(he was extraordinarily contrite for what it's worth)

He gives me his address and it seems awfully familiar. I get there and he starts showing me around his new digs.

We have our meeting and the entire time I cannot help myself from smirking because that very room had been my HS girlfriend's bedroom 22 years earlier.

Ok, I guess it's not such a cool story but I always found it odd to be meeting The Devil in the same room I got my first...well, lots of things.

DROxINxTHExWIND: Yeah, IMHO that's kind of where I thought he was coming from. The joke was that female athletes look rough. He wasn't saying that black women are hoes or all black women are nappy-headed. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm pretty sure he's as racist as any old white conservative fake cowboy, but I don't think he was trying to demean all black people.

If there's one thing I always liked about Imus, it's that he was an equal-opportunity racist.

SkinnyHead: depmode98: for the last three days, you've been defending Rush for calling Sandra Fluke a whorish slut face. Now you are here defending Rush by saying his apology is sincere? do you ever take a position on anything before consulting with Rush first? If you originally agreed with Rush that Sandra is a prostitute whorebag, why do you think he should even apologize?

In prior threads, I said that Limbaugh's comments were out of line, but constitutionally protected.

I'll say the same thing about your characterization of Sandra Fluke as a "whorish slut face" and "prostitute whorebag." I think those comments are out of line too, but I'll defend your constitutional right to say them.

oh thank god, you are a troll. for a few days I was horrified at the idea there was someone as idiotic out there as you pretend to be.

T.M.S.: We have our meeting and the entire time I cannot help myself from smirking because that very room had been my HS girlfriend's bedroom 22 years earlier.

"No sir, I'm sorry, but there's no way we can cover that stain 2/3 of the way up the wall and still have decent acoustics..."

jjorsett: T. Dawg: And explanation as to why this instance has sparked such a strong reaction, and why I believe it won't just go away. (new window)

The women I know, across generations, are done. Simply done with being dragged through the dirt by way of condescending, oppressive, loudmouth lawmakers, pundits and blowhards with a microphone.

Did "women you know" get in a dudgeon when Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a dumb t*at and a c*nt or when David Letterman called her "slutty looking"? How about when Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "talk slut"? Or are the "women you know" selective in their outrage?

Oh, yes, this talking point. It has been repeated by all of my conservative friends (mostly male) all weekend.

First: Read what I linked. It is relevant.

In answer to your other question: the women I know do not, for the most part, approve of the use of any of those terms, and have been upset by their use in other circumstances - both public and personal.

However, consider this: when the police are investigating you for beating your child to death, pointing out that you saw your neighbor spank their child once is hardly a defense.

Via Infinito: Good point. Rush was only apologizing because his job was probably on the line. I didn't realize that Imus apologized after he was already fired. At first blush it seemed like the giant douche was criticizing the turd sandwich.

It took CBS Radio 8 days to can Imus. This is day 6 of Slutgate. Plus Rush has a bigger track record of such idiocy, despite Imus being around longer.

IlGreven: It took CBS Radio 8 days to can Imus. This is day 6 of Slutgate. Plus Rush has a bigger track record of such idiocy, despite Imus being around longer.

Imus was also well beyond the "I'm sorry how I said that" stage by now...

Three Rush links in a row? WTF?

Seriously, it's time to back off the Limbaugh express and go back to what is important. Ripping on Republican candidates.

Tomorrow is Super Farking Tuesday...

Via Infinito: IlGreven: Via Infinito: Good point. Rush was only apologizing because his job was probably on the line. I didn't realize that Imus apologized after he was already fired. At first blush it seemed like the giant douche was criticizing the turd sandwich.

It took CBS Radio 8 days to can Imus. This is day 6 of Slutgate. Plus Rush has a bigger track record of such idiocy, despite Imus being around longer.

oh please oh please oh please

However, like I said on another thread, I'll believe Rush is in trouble when radio stations start dropping him.

SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

They tried and Republicans killed it.

SlothB77: Mr. Limbaugh has been roundly criticized for talking at length about the sex life of Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University law student who testified in support of the Obama administration's requirement that health insurance plans cover contraceptives for women. For three straight days he lambasted her, before saying in a statement Saturday afternoon that he did not intend to attack her personally. "I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation," he said.

Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

Yes.

/Catholic

SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

What is this shiat? Thread CPR?

SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?


Yes.

Daraymann: Three Rush links in a row? WTF?

Drew's computer must be futzing up. He thinks it's 2112

sleeps in trees: e) You should be on birth control for a few months before having unprotected sex.

Not entirely true, in that it depends on the type of birth control. Some you can just start taking during your period and it's immediately good to go from there. But in my case, the SO gets her birth control from France, so I don't know if it's a different type over there or what..

SlothB77: Mr. Limbaugh has been roundly criticized for talking at length about the sex life of Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University law student who testified in support of the Obama administration's requirement that health insurance plans cover contraceptives for women. For three straight days he lambasted her, before saying in a statement Saturday afternoon that he did not intend to attack her personally. "I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation," he said.

Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

Insurance organizations have religious beliefs?

Philip Francis Queeg: SlothB77: Mr. Limbaugh has been roundly criticized for talking at length about the sex life of Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University law student who testified in support of the Obama administration's requirement that health insurance plans cover contraceptives for women. For three straight days he lambasted her, before saying in a statement Saturday afternoon that he did not intend to attack her personally. "I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation," he said.

Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

Insurance organizations have religious beliefs?


Corporations are people too.

SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

In a perfect, any and all treatment should be between a woman and her doctor. In theory, as you don't want to prevent a woman from getting medicine her and her doctor think she should have, and a religious institution shouldn't pay for things they don't agree with. That's why they aren't - insurance organizations are offering to pick up the slack where religious institutions don't want to cover it, because it's better for them to prevent pregnancies then deal with them if they're unintended.

Religious institutions are calling this a copout. I call it a reasonable way to sidestep an issue that shouldn't be an issue.

fracto73: Philip Francis Queeg: SlothB77: Mr. Limbaugh has been roundly criticized for talking at length about the sex life of Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University law student who testified in support of the Obama administration's requirement that health insurance plans cover contraceptives for women. For three straight days he lambasted her, before saying in a statement Saturday afternoon that he did not intend to attack her personally. "I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation," he said.

Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

Insurance organizations have religious beliefs?


Corporations are people too.

Are the Mormons going to start baptizing corporations that have gone bankrupt?

Philip Francis Queeg: Are the Mormons going to start baptizing corporations that have gone bankrupt?

great question for Mitt Romney at a townhall meeting.

DeltaPunch: But in my case, the SO gets her birth control from France, so I don't know if it's a different type over there or what..

Does it take a bit of a pounding, then give up?

When Michael Moore can burn you like that it's time to hang it up.

Philip Francis Queeg: Insurance organizations have religious beliefs?

They worship the almighty dollar.

This is Rush Limbaugh's nappy headed ho moment.

/Can't stand either of them.

booksmart: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x98]

Like. But plz, plz don't make us watch his sex tapes...

/just threw up
//in my mouth
//a lot

quickdraw: Weaver95: Imus continued: "I mean it's disgraceful. You got to show some guts. He has no guts. Look what I did. And what I did was a lame attempt to be funny. And it was three words and I went and met with these people after I'd been fired! You got to show guts. He has no guts. He's a punk."

And you know what? Imus is right. Rush owes that woman something more than just a quick and dirty half assed 'i'm sorry you got offended, you stupid ignorant slut' message posted on his blog.

Honestly if you were his lawyer would you trust him to meet with her in person and not say something even stupider?

Exactly what legal repercussions would you be concerned about? I'd be more worried if I was his agent.

Jake Havechek: All we can do is pray for the day when both Imus's lungs collapse at the same time.

Seriously? That's where you're going to go?!? There's no hate like liberal hate.

SlothB77: Tigger: I would accept a compromise bill in which this is not a requirment but in addition we get to kick you in the balls every time you say something stupid.

That was the original issue. That was what Fluke was advocating. The contraceptive requirement does violate the first amendment religious believes of religious organizations.

What does that have to do with Rush calling her a "slut"?

RexTalionis: Imus does real good work with his wife at the Imus Ranch giving kids with cancer and other serious illnesses a chance to live on a working ranch. As such, he's got some pretty good redeeming qualities. Rush, on the other hand, doesn't do any of that kind of stuff.

I understand he provides employment to certain boys in the islands on his vacations.

SlothB77: Tigger: I would accept a compromise bill in which this is not a requirment but in addition we get to kick you in the balls every time you say something stupid.

That was the original issue. That was what Fluke was advocating. The contraceptive requirement does violate the first amendment religious believes of religious organizations.


That isn't the issue. The issue is that a woman testified about a friend who had an ovary removed and Rush responded by demanding she release a sex tape. Are you in the wrong thread?

saintstryfe: SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

In a perfect, any and all treatment should be between a woman and her doctor. In theory, as you don't want to prevent a woman from getting medicine her and her doctor think she should have, and a religious institution shouldn't pay for things they don't agree with. That's why they aren't - insurance organizations are offering to pick up the slack where religious institutions don't want to cover it, because it's better for them to prevent pregnancies then deal with them if they're unintended.

Religious institutions are calling this a copout. I call it a reasonable way to sidestep an issue that shouldn't be an issue.

Insurance companies are offering? I thought they were being forced to do it. Also, I'm not buying that it's cheaper without a source. If it was really cheaper, insurance companies would be doing it anyway. The only thing the respect is money.

IXI Jim IXI: DeltaPunch: But in my case, the SO gets her birth control from France, so I don't know if it's a different type over there or what..

Does it take a bit of a pounding, then give up?

Unfortunately in most cases I'm the one to give up first ;)

Scerpes: saintstryfe: SlothB77: Does everyone in this thread think that health insurance plans should be required by law to cover contraceptives for women, even if that law violates the religious beliefs of the employer or insurance organization?

In a perfect, any and all treatment should be between a woman and her doctor. In theory, as you don't want to prevent a woman from getting medicine her and her doctor think she should have, and a religious institution shouldn't pay for things they don't agree with. That's why they aren't - insurance organizations are offering to pick up the slack where religious institutions don't want to cover it, because it's better for them to prevent pregnancies then deal with them if they're unintended.

Religious institutions are calling this a copout. I call it a reasonable way to sidestep an issue that shouldn't be an issue.

Insurance companies are offering? I thought they were being forced to do it. Also, I'm not buying that it's cheaper without a source. If it was really cheaper, insurance companies would be doing it anyway. The only thing the respect is money.

No, no, they have religious views now.