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(Slate)   "Is it ever worthwhile to spend 100 hours playing a single video game?" Sometimes the media asks such stupid questions   (slate.com) divider line 309
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2012-03-05 12:27:56 PM
I only started playing TF2 at the end of Dec '11.

I just passed 204 hrs played last night... and I'm loving every single hour!
 
2012-03-05 12:30:37 PM
Anyone with a Total War passion/addiction knows it can take an hour just to hit the 'end turn' button.
 
2012-03-05 12:31:36 PM
For the WoW players that have played months and years. How much of that did you actually play the game?

/Tried Wow once
//Fell asleep
 
2012-03-05 12:35:59 PM
Jesus this guy sucks at video games. Dark Souls was hard. I died many, many times. I still didn't spend anywhere near 100 hours completing it. I think my final save file was in the 50s. And saying things like the game only rewards you for randomly walking around, randomly trying everything on everything instead of using logic shows me exactly why it took this tool 100 hours to finish.

100 hours is the midway point of an Elder Scrolls game? Get a life. Don't go around talking to every NPC, lifting every stone, and farking every chicken in the world and then complain that the game is a pointless, vapid time sink. You are more than welcome to simply jump from plot point to plot point and treat the game like an interactive movie if you so choose.
 
2012-03-05 12:36:37 PM
vermicious k'nid: I only started playing TF2 at the end of Dec '11.

I just passed 204 hrs played last night... and I'm loving every single hour!


I'm looking for a few items if you want to swap. Also, I play mostly on the No Heros servers. Always a good game and the CP Paradise has a great mix of maps.

/really want the Moon Man set.
//EIP
 
2012-03-05 12:37:05 PM
Got over 160 hours on the clock for Xenoblade Chronicles, single playthrough, still didn't do absolutely everything. I left the machine on a lot while I was doing other things, but I'd estimate that at least 140 of those hours were actually playing. The game is just fantastic. I've played other games over 100 hours if you count multiple playthroughs, but I believe that's the only non-online game I've played more than 100 hours in a single playthrough.
 
2012-03-05 12:42:02 PM
I know someone (NOT ME) who has over 2000 hours on TF2.
 
2012-03-05 12:42:23 PM
depends on the game duh

some games i can't stand after 10 hours much less 100

others i can play for years, it's not scientific
 
2012-03-05 12:42:46 PM
Some of you guys have a gaming problem. NTTAWWT.

I've been playing EQ for YEARS and only have approx. 1920 hours. I might have a 1000 hours each in Total Annihilation, Street Fighter series and Halo series. And it took years to get that high.



Teenwolf: I felt this way, too, until I played in a couple tournaments and was quickly disabused of this notion.

Oh yeah, tournaments can really humble someone who thinks they are a bad-ass. I was unbeatable in Street Fighter in my corner of the world. Friends would bring over friends of friends to challenge me. I went to a tournament a got schooled like a pretty princess. Not fun at all...heh.
 
2012-03-05 12:43:25 PM
Honest Bender: And I only joined the companions *SPOILER* So I could become a werewolf.

Does this mean you played with the Wiki or forums open next to you? Otherwise, how would you know that's how to become a werewolf?

If so, that might explain the speed of your playtime. I don't know my hour count, but it's the only game I've played since release day. Just this weekend I started feeling "near the end" and started using the Wiki to tie up some loose strings. A couple of Barenziah stones (still can't find two!), a few shouts (all in dungeons I had been at, but missed the word wall, except for Shalidor's Maze - I had totally missed that with everything else in Labyrinthian), etc, etc.

I destroyed the Dark Brotherhood and refused a few Daedric Artifacts for RP reasons. Someday I'll roll a new character that's more evil and pick those up.

As for Galudor's Amulet? What amulet is better? The only reason I'm not wearing it now is that I have the Amulet of Mara on, seeing who is available for marriage.
 
2012-03-05 12:44:20 PM
Dark Souls was awesome and easily deserved all the hours I put into the game. I beat it before they put the patch in to make it easier. I wish they had left the difficulty the same but fixed the blocking attack bug for spear and rapier users. I really wanted to stick to my +15 Ricard's Rapier, but eventually I had to give up.
 
2012-03-05 12:44:41 PM
My historic time wasters are TFC and CS 1.3. I cannot even fathom the amount of time I have played either... 1000s of hours in each. Can you guess when I went to college? There just has not been a game that has pulled me in and at the same time my lifestyle afforded me the ability to just waste that much time. I think the last game to get 100 hours out of me was Fallout 3 but I just walked away from it for about 3 months with only 10 minutes left in the game. It lost me near the end.
 
2012-03-05 12:48:31 PM
omahatattoo: For the WoW players that have played months and years. How much of that did you actually play the game?

/Tried Wow once
//Fell asleep


The internal counter counts the time you're actually logged in on a character. I won't try and claim there weren't times when I would leave myself online and fall asleep, but you get booted after 30 mins of idle time so it shouldn't amount to that much.

It does include several hours of running in circles around Stormwind, waiting for groups, crafting 200+ bandages, etc.
 
2012-03-05 12:50:07 PM
Just wanted to get TF2ers attention, I see a few here. I have some gear to trade if anyone is interested. Will trade for items and metal.

The only things I can think of off the top of my head:
Trading Crit-A-Cola for Bonk! Atomic Punch.
Trading Backbiter's Billycock for Made Man

Those are really my only item specific swaps. Others are negotiable. EIP.
 
2012-03-05 12:51:02 PM
Honest Bender: my roommate and I entered multiple tournaments over several years


I don't believe you are Ken Hoang.
 
2012-03-05 12:51:21 PM
MoronLessOff: Just wanted to get TF2ers attention, I see a few here. I have some gear to trade if anyone is interested. Will trade for items and metal.

The only things I can think of off the top of my head:
Trading Crit-A-Cola for Bonk! Atomic Punch.
Trading Backbiter's Billycock for Made Man

Those are really my only item specific swaps. Others are negotiable. EIP.



D'oh! Attention getting image was scrubbed. Here we go:
t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-03-05 12:51:27 PM
wildstarr: Some of you guys have a gaming problem. NTTAWWT.

Pfffft. That's like when people say I have a drinking problem. If being good at it is a problem, then yeah.
 
2012-03-05 12:51:30 PM
I just hit a hundred hours in Skyrim and I'm typing tilde killall a lot now.
 
2012-03-05 12:54:34 PM
MontyBurns: I know someone (NOT ME) who has over 2000 hours on TF2.

WAT?!? When did TotalFark2 come out?
 
2012-03-05 12:59:04 PM
Dark Souls is a 10-hour game that you play over and over with each and every death. Sure, you can spend 100 hours with it, but that's like saying Super Mario Bros. is a hundred hour game (new window). There are 1 hour speed runs on Dark Souls.

Now Skyrim or Amalur? Those are long games.
 
2012-03-05 01:04:37 PM
Honest Bender: "Increases your Health, Magicka, and Stamina by 30 points."

That's a piece of garbage.


It's the best amulet I've found so far, and is far better than anything I could make myself.

[hatersgonnahate.jpg]
 
2012-03-05 01:05:40 PM
DamnYankees: Honest Bender: Skyrim was an awesome game, don't get me wrong. And nearly 70 hours is pretty good these days. But I just don't see how I could get another 30 hours out of it. There's not even any replay value...

Maybe you just play really fast.

And no replay value? Well, I suppose that's true if you do EVERYTHING the first time around. But I would venture to say most people don't join the mage's guild and the thieves guild and the companions all in one game. You do a mage build and a thief build or whatever and play differently.


Yeah. I have the same problem as Bender - pick up every quest you see. In Amalur, I'm only about halfway through, and I'm the Archsage, Lord of the House of Ballads, allied with the Hierophant, etc., etc. And even on the highest difficulty, no one can stand against my meteor strike. Same problem in Skyrim- once you hit level 50 or so and can one-shot a named dragon, the challenge kind of disappears.
 
2012-03-05 01:06:39 PM
qorkfiend: omahatattoo: For the WoW players that have played months and years. How much of that did you actually play the game?

/Tried Wow once
//Fell asleep

The internal counter counts the time you're actually logged in on a character. I won't try and claim there weren't times when I would leave myself online and fall asleep, but you get booted after 30 mins of idle time so it shouldn't amount to that much.

It does include several hours of running in circles around Stormwind, waiting for groups, crafting 200+ bandages, etc.


I know before I quit my main char had over 40 days /played, and that was one of 5 max lvl chars i had, 3 of which I had taken into firelands raid
 
2012-03-05 01:08:01 PM
oldernell: I've got more than that in Angry Birds.

Someone should post stats from Farmville.
 
2012-03-05 01:08:33 PM
Theaetetus: Yeah. I have the same problem as Bender - pick up every quest you see. In Amalur, I'm only about halfway through, and I'm the Archsage, Lord of the House of Ballads, allied with the Hierophant, etc., etc. And even on the highest difficulty, no one can stand against my meteor strike. Same problem in Skyrim- once you hit level 50 or so and can one-shot a named dragon, the challenge kind of disappears.

You can one-shot a named dragon? How the hell?

I take your point, and I think this is one flaw in Skyrim - it needs more bifurcations, where if you choose to go down one path, it shuts off another path entirely. Like, you literally should not be allowed to be a Thane if you are in the Thieves Guild, or you are not allowed to be a Companion if you are a Mage. Stuff like that would increase replayability.
 
2012-03-05 01:08:36 PM
It's a good thing Fark doesn't record how much time you spend here, because I'm sure it's over 100 hours.
 
2012-03-05 01:09:25 PM
Nebulious: Sometimes on a Friday or a Saturday, it's nice to turn your brain off and bonk some heavies.

BRB calling your mom for this weekend.
 
2012-03-05 01:11:38 PM
cefm: Heck, a halfway committed WoW raider could put up 100 hours in a month.

Not anymore. They're down to a 5 hrs of content a week model. Laying off like 600 people to go with the 1.1M subscriber loss.


I was putting in 30 hours of raid time a week in Sunwell during TBC. Back when Blizzard made halfway decent games.
 
2012-03-05 01:13:54 PM
If there is an appropriate goal and a great atmosphere to the game, I don't worry about the hours. I just hit 55 on Final Fantasy XIII. Even though some of the characters are really irritating, and the plot is a little nonsensical, it does have a great "feel" to the game.
 
2012-03-05 01:15:16 PM
Geez, you guys. I thought I was bad with 95 hours in Fallout:NV. You guys put me to shame.
 
2012-03-05 01:16:01 PM
dragonchild: Aarontology: You could ask that about any hobby.

Not to mention 100 hours really isn't long for any hobby. Back in the day I'd practice clarinet an hour a day; I'd be up over 100 hours in less than four months, and that's a (gasp) single instrument.

That said, I really do wish games would stop logging my time. In RPGs it's right on the status screen so it's damn hard to just ignore.


But the article author believes instruments, running and old books that no one gives a shiat about anymore are valuable, while video games are not.
 
2012-03-05 01:17:24 PM
qorkfiend: qorkfiend: With almost 2 years of play time in WoW, I'm getting a kick etc.

That's over 17,000 hours. Wheee!


Pretty sure I was close to that... BEFORE Cata.

I didn't play much Cata though. Game has gone way downhill.
 
2012-03-05 01:30:05 PM
I spent about $60 for Skyrim and got over 200 hours out of it before I was done with it (and that's not counting the 100+ hours that my wife got out of it). That's about 30 cents per hour of very engaging entertainment. Compare that to a movie where, if I go to a matinee and it's a long movie, I might be able to get about 3 bucks an hour for a mere 2 hours of enjoyment, or a restaurant where I might be able to get about $15/hr.

The Slate author can get as philosophical as he likes, but I can promise him that even if I wasn't playing Skyrim, I wouldn't be reading War and Peace in lieu of it. In the meanwhile, $.30/hr is money well spent, IMO.
 
kab
2012-03-05 01:32:18 PM
Countless hours in WoW, Asheron's Call. 110 hours into Skyrim.

Encyclopedia-length games have flourished over the last decade.

Absolute bullshiat. Games have gotten shorter, if anything, so the rare exception to the 'more than 12 hours of single player' is suddenly something noteworthy. Why give gamers lengthy gameplay when you can sell it to them piecemeal after the fact via DLC?

And really, MMO's / multiplayer games shouldn't be counted on the same scale that single player ones are, as there's generally no end to them.

As far as Dark Souls, sure. It's a pretty straightforward hack/slash game, who's noteriety rests almost solely on how unforgiving it is (oh my god, no save! OH MY GOD!), hampered by a shiat control scheme made even worse by the fact that you can't even customize it.. Until they release a PC version (which isn't likely to happen),

blogs.westword.com
 
2012-03-05 01:36:06 PM
I have no idea how many hours I've spent on all the various Fire Emblem games. Far, far too many.
 
2012-03-05 01:39:26 PM
I've spent way too much time on Starcraft 2 multiplayer. I have over 1,000 wins since August 2010, and probably the same amount of losses.

Each game on average (for me) is 15 minutes, so......I've played around 500 hours of it.

/yikes
//did not want to do that math.....
 
2012-03-05 01:43:31 PM
Let's check my Steam account...

1052.1 hrs in Team Fortress 2 (note that this number is actually low because Steam didn't keep track of hours in 2007 and early 2008)
151.7 hrs in Left 4 Dead 1 (same disclaimer as above)
1322.7 hrs in Left 4 Dead 2
150.3 hrs in Borderlands
148.4 hrs in Terraria

I don't know whether or not to be proud or saddened.
 
2012-03-05 01:43:31 PM
100 hours? You mean strait? Pfft over 100 hours then, back in the old days the drelzna Jboots drop was one hell of a camp out. They of coursed nerfed it months after I got mine, pussies.

/gaming today is such a casual affair.
 
2012-03-05 01:45:26 PM
FTFA: Dark Souls takes so long to play because it refuses to tell you its basic ground rules, then kills you over and over again for failing to understand them. As a player, you proceed not by thinking through problems but by randomly trying anything and everything until something haphazard sticks

And this is one of the best-reviewed games of the year? No effing thanks.
 
2012-03-05 01:45:52 PM
Heh, I recently broke out my SNES and started playing Final Fantasy III again (Called VI now) 40 hours in and I still have lots to do before taking down Kefka
 
kab
2012-03-05 01:46:19 PM
Honest Bender: ...where? I started a brand new character recently. Got to level 50+, master of the thieve's guild, mage's guild, nightengales, dark brotherhood, companions, main quest line, all the thunes, killed enough dragons to unlock all the thunes, killed all the dragon priests, begame a thane in every stronghold, bought all the houses, and did a slew of random quests all over the place.

Now, I'm 100% sure there were still random caves to crawl through for crap loot and random quests to complete for joe blow lumber mill worker who will gladly pay me 12 cents to gather 100 wildflowers for him... but who cares about that? I managed to do everything worth doing in that game in 68 hours (according to steam).

Skyrim was an awesome game, don't get me wrong. And nearly 70 hours is pretty good these days. But I just don't see how I could get another 30 hours out of it. There's not even any replay value...


I'm by no means rushing through the game... playing on master difficulty, no fast travel, no horses unless I can hire the occasional wagon, which isn't all that often (ok, you dropped me off in Dawnstar... are you ever coming back?), so becoming burdened and having to go back to town becomes an issue, even with a companion. Currently level 36, and have spent a good amount of time collecting / reading books. One house in Whiterun, thane status in 2 other cities (well, if I buy a Riften house), and sneak is close to 100. Member of the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, companions, stormcloaks, bard college, mage guild, etc. In any case, I spend most of my time doing side quests, and last time I checked I was at 110 hours, and about 23/50 achievements. No idea how long it will take me to complete everything as far as quests.

I will agree on the replay value.... I originally wanted to make a second character focusing entirely on magic, but despite the game's enjoyment factor, I know I'll never go back to it.
 
2012-03-05 01:47:46 PM
Back when I raided WoW, the most intense guy in our guild had 99 days /played about two years into the game. That's 99 24-hour days. He would solo insane-difficulty dungeons farming mats or recipes. He was really, really good. But he spent at least 8 hours a day, every day, playing WoW. He eventually had to delete his character to stop playing. And of course two years later, he came back.
 
2012-03-05 01:48:00 PM
Rev.K: I'm approaching 200 hours in Skyrim.

pfft piker.

/500 and counting and i feel i haven't scratched the surface. good GOD that world is huge.
//shor, dibella, etc, PLEASE let the expansion packs be them opening up cyrodil and morrowind to exploration... they're already in the game, let us go there!
 
2012-03-05 01:49:20 PM
dragonchild:
That said, I really do wish games would stop logging my time. In RPGs it's right on the status screen so it's damn hard to just ignore.


I've kind of wondered about this before. Why is it that games have become ubiquitous in the timestamp and such, when it's missing from many other hobbies? Will Kindle eventually tell you that you finished The Stand in 14:05, and speedreaders will put vids up on Youtube? I'm sure Comcast et. al. track your viewing time but don't readily surface it.

Or on the flipside, how long until games stop doing this? I've never wondered how long I spent playing Bionic Commando as a kid on my NES, why do I need to know how long it took me to finish Uncharted? So people can get on GameFAQs and whine about how short every new game is?
 
2012-03-05 01:49:30 PM
kab: Absolute bullshiat. Games have gotten shorter, if anything, so the rare exception to the 'more than 12 hours of single player' is suddenly something noteworthy. Why give gamers lengthy gameplay when you can sell it to them piecemeal after the fact via DLC?

Shorter compared to when? Not the NES/SNES era. The PS1/N64 era games weren't exactly filled with long games. The PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era had some RPGs and strat-RPG games that went long, but those same genres are still just as long now. I think people who make that complaint wear some rose colored glasses, because single player action games are longer than they were in the past.
 
2012-03-05 01:52:26 PM
TheSelphie: Got over 160 hours on the clock for Xenoblade Chronicles, single playthrough, still didn't do absolutely everything. I left the machine on a lot while I was doing other things, but I'd estimate that at least 140 of those hours were actually playing. The game is just fantastic. I've played other games over 100 hours if you count multiple playthroughs, but I believe that's the only non-online game I've played more than 100 hours in a single playthrough.

I'm at around 30 hours and I just hit Prison Island (after getting the little Riki dude and getting to the high-tech city). Do you remember about how far into the game that is?
 
2012-03-05 01:53:17 PM
ryarger: Does this mean you played with the Wiki or forums open next to you? Otherwise, how would you know that's how to become a werewolf?

I look up some things but I try really hard not to abuse it. In the case of the werewolf thing, I was reading up on how werewolves work in general and accidentally read that you become one through the companions.

ryarger: As for Galudor's Amulet? What amulet is better?

Cat With Two Heads: It's the best amulet I've found so far, and is far better than anything I could make myself.

It's nowhere near as good as one you can make yourself. And just for the record, I don't like to abuse the alchemy tricks to make retard gear. If I remember off the top of my head, my amulet was +40ish % to archery and +32% magic resistance. Keep in mind that magic resistance applies to all 3 elements as well.
 
2012-03-05 01:53:56 PM
I have over 2000 hours on Company of Heroes since 2007. It's like real time chess on crack.... Too addicting...
 
2012-03-05 01:54:04 PM
Honest Bender: I look up some things but I try really hard not to abuse it. In the case of the werewolf thing, I was reading up on how werewolves work in general and accidentally read that you become one through the companions.

It's very hard not to start surfing the Wikis on these games. There's just interesting stuff there.
 
2012-03-05 01:54:10 PM
100 hours? That's cute.
 
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