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2012-03-05 11:25:33 AM  

DamnYankees: Toquinha: Magic: The Gathering - Duel of the Planeswalkers - 225 hours

what is this i dont even


I'm at a loss to explain it myself, considering that it pales in experience to the real thing. The only thing I can come up with is that because it's turn based, at least 50% of the time is spent waiting for the opponents to make up their moves. Another 15-20% goes towards searching for games and opponents. Another 5% goes towards set up and customization.

All in all, maybe about 56.25 hours in ACTUAL game play.
 
2012-03-05 11:26:51 AM  

DamnYankees: Honest Bender: Rev.K: I'm approaching 200 hours in Skyrim.

How?! There's only, like, 60 hours of game play in that game.

Really? There's way more than that, IMO.


...where? I started a brand new character recently. Got to level 50+, master of the thieve's guild, mage's guild, nightengales, dark brotherhood, companions, main quest line, all the thunes, killed enough dragons to unlock all the thunes, killed all the dragon priests, begame a thane in every stronghold, bought all the houses, and did a slew of random quests all over the place.

Now, I'm 100% sure there were still random caves to crawl through for crap loot and random quests to complete for joe blow lumber mill worker who will gladly pay me 12 cents to gather 100 wildflowers for him... but who cares about that? I managed to do everything worth doing in that game in 68 hours (according to steam).

Skyrim was an awesome game, don't get me wrong. And nearly 70 hours is pretty good these days. But I just don't see how I could get another 30 hours out of it. There's not even any replay value...
 
2012-03-05 11:27:04 AM  
I'm well over 500 hours on Killing Floor. And I think I paid $20 for the game.

Same folks went on to make Red Orchestra 2, which on the right servers features actual Russian and Germans talking, which adds significantly to the experience. =)
 
2012-03-05 11:27:08 AM  

regindyn: DamnYankees: Toquinha: Magic: The Gathering - Duel of the Planeswalkers - 225 hours

what is this i dont even

I made it through 40 minutes when it was a free download from Steam. Magic really isn't the same if you can't experience the social awkwardness in person.


I've wondered how in the hell it even works. Do you get all of the cards from a series and just try to build the most uber deck? Or do you buy e-booster packs and only get a set number each time to work with? Magic was always fun, but that was cause you had to build with what you had on hand, not a full library of e-cards.

/Miss my Sliver deck now...
 
2012-03-05 11:29:06 AM  
I'm lucky if I get 5 hours a week available for playing a game.

/old
//new baby
 
2012-03-05 11:29:24 AM  
Tell that to my Dragon Age Origins and DAO Awakening... Over all clocked time. give or take about 50 hours.... 500 hours easily on multiple play throughs. DAII is actually about 250 hours roughly. Only made it through with 2 characters until I had an "Oh Shiny" moment.

Kingdom of Alamur Reckoning has 1 character already in the triple digits in hours and the other one in at 50.

Great games deserve as many hours you want to put into them. If it gives you 100s of hours of nonstop fun.
 
2012-03-05 11:29:39 AM  

Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.


... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.
 
2012-03-05 11:29:54 AM  

Honest Bender: Skyrim was an awesome game, don't get me wrong. And nearly 70 hours is pretty good these days. But I just don't see how I could get another 30 hours out of it. There's not even any replay value...


Maybe you just play really fast.

And no replay value? Well, I suppose that's true if you do EVERYTHING the first time around. But I would venture to say most people don't join the mage's guild and the thieves guild and the companions all in one game. You do a mage build and a thief build or whatever and play differently.
 
2012-03-05 11:31:37 AM  

Honest Bender: Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.

... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.


Was gonna say I would take that challenge, then saw who you wanted to play with (Samus is my girl too). She wrecked everybody. I had that charge-up shot timed perfectly, could hit you across the map no matter what. And her throw whip just pissed people off.

/Smash Bros is one of the best fighting games ever
//They nerfed her in Brawl.
 
2012-03-05 11:33:14 AM  

Old enough to know better: Hey if a game can keep you hooked for that long, then consider yourself lucky.

I'm at around 120 hours on Minecraft. Quite an accomplishment as I usually get bored with a game after about a month.


Oh dear lord, I don't even want to think about how much time I've spent in that game.

Now that I think about it, the games that I have probably spent the most time on are ones that don't track it for you. Sim City, XCOM, Mario Kart, Starcraft, that farking water temple in Ocarina of Time.
 
2012-03-05 11:34:14 AM  

scottydoesntknow: regindyn: DamnYankees: Toquinha: Magic: The Gathering - Duel of the Planeswalkers - 225 hours

what is this i dont even

I made it through 40 minutes when it was a free download from Steam. Magic really isn't the same if you can't experience the social awkwardness in person.

I've wondered how in the hell it even works. Do you get all of the cards from a series and just try to build the most uber deck? Or do you buy e-booster packs and only get a set number each time to work with? Magic was always fun, but that was cause you had to build with what you had on hand, not a full library of e-cards.

/Miss my Sliver deck now...


For DotP2012, they give you a bunch of pre-constructed decks built around themes and specific Planeswalker characters. Green was entirely creature based, there were two mono-red decks, one mono black vampire deck, blue illusions and control (counterspells, draw spells), white equipment, green (with black) for Elves, red/black goblins and dragons, black/blue/white artifacts. You unlock more cards as you go along, but they all belong to the specific deck, but you can add and remove cards as you see fit. There's also DLC, which gives you access to more decks.

If you actually want to build your own decks from the ground up, there's Magic: the Gathering online, in which you pay real world money for virtual cards (about $3-4/pack, the same price as buying printed cards), but once you complete a set, you're able to redeem them for their printed counterparts (minus a shipping fee, printing fee, etc.).
 
2012-03-05 11:34:27 AM  

Honest Bender: Rev.K: I'm approaching 200 hours in Skyrim.

How?! There's only, like, 60 hours of game play in that game.


60 mind numbingly repetitive hours of game play.

FYI, I'm saying Skyrim sucks.
 
2012-03-05 11:35:07 AM  

scottydoesntknow: //They nerfed her in Brawl.


I think you mean melee, but yes, it was heart breaking. In brawl, I favor Rob. But I'm decent with Peach and I can still hold my own with suited samus. Zero suit samus is another favorite of mine in brawl. But rob is a murder machine. I am unstoppable with Rob.
 
2012-03-05 11:36:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: I would read this, but I'm blocking off the next 100+ non-work hours for Mass Effect 3.

/T-minus 14 hours, 25 minutes!




I took tomorrow and Wednesday off, but I have to hurry and finish my ME2 game tonight so all the flags are set the way I want.
 
2012-03-05 11:36:19 AM  
Doom and Doom 2. I still play them at least once a week. I wouldn't be surprised if I've sunk around 2000 hours into those games since 1994.
 
2012-03-05 11:37:33 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Honest Bender: Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.

... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.

Was gonna say I would take that challenge, then saw who you wanted to play with (Samus is my girl too). She wrecked everybody. I had that charge-up shot timed perfectly, could hit you across the map no matter what. And her throw whip just pissed people off.

/Smash Bros is one of the best fighting games ever
//They nerfed her in Brawl.


Jigglypuff. It wasn't my best character, but the rage generated by dying to her screech was SO satisfying.

My best character was probably Young Link. A little squishy, but had some good maneuverability.

/fear the downstab
 
2012-03-05 11:39:09 AM  
ETQW - 'bout 1930 hours

CrYpT
 
2012-03-05 11:40:37 AM  

I Like Bread: Doom and Doom 2. I still play them at least once a week. I wouldn't be surprised if I've sunk around 2000 hours into those games since 1994.


Indeed. Doom2 and Quake probably have more hours dedicated to them than any other single activity in my life
 
2012-03-05 11:43:58 AM  
FTFA: You can accomplish a lot in 100 hours. You could read War and Peace, for instance, then follow it up with Thus Spoke Zarathustra and a few starter courses in a new language.

STFU. Not everybody is able to read at your pace, article-writer guy.

/would take me a month to read War and Peace
 
2012-03-05 11:44:21 AM  

regindyn: Jigglypuff. It wasn't my best character, but the rage generated by dying to her screech was SO satisfying.

My best character was probably Young Link. A little squishy, but had some good maneuverability.

/fear the downstab


Jigglypuff was highly underrated and definitely rage enducing.

I loathed Link/Young Link because of the up/downstab and the spin. You could juggle other players like a pogostick with that downstab.
 
2012-03-05 11:47:30 AM  

MugzyBrown: I'm lucky if I get 5 hours a week available for playing a game.

/old
//new baby


Congrats on the new baby, and my sympathies for the death of your spare time. I meant to finish my second runthrough of ME2 over the weekend, but chores, taxes, oil changes, etc came first and I'm still unprepared for the launch of ME3.

As far as the headline question goes, I waste far more time than that reading and watching movies/TV. The decision on what is worthwhile to spend my time on is my own.
 
2012-03-05 11:47:57 AM  

Cubicle Jockey: scottydoesntknow: I would read this, but I'm blocking off the next 100+ non-work hours for Mass Effect 3.

/T-minus 14 hours, 25 minutes!



I took tomorrow and Wednesday off, but I have to hurry and finish my ME2 game tonight so all the flags are set the way I want.


I'm in the same boat, trying to finish out a playthrough (at least my third) of ME2 to get everything set how I want it for ME3, will pick up the game tonight, then spend tomorrow finishing off 2 before loading up 3 on wed probably
 
2012-03-05 11:48:31 AM  

DamnYankees: Maybe you just play really fast.

And no replay value? Well, I suppose that's true if you do EVERYTHING the first time around. But I would venture to say most people don't join the mage's guild and the thieves guild and the companions all in one game. You do a mage build and a thief build or whatever and play differently.


I played at what was a comfortable pace for me. YMMV of course. I played a thief build, but I had to join the mage's build to gain access to a ruin in order to finish out that 3 part amulet quest (totally not worth it, btw). The mage's guild quest ark was so short I finished it before I even realized it was over.

And I only joined the companions *SPOILER* So I could become a werewolf. I didn't really want to be a werewolf, mind you. But they never force you to transform and you gain immunity to disease (like vampirism).

And since there is no restriction on what skill/abilities/etc you can learn, why would you ever roll a new character? Want to learn magic? Go learn it. Want to be a warrior? Pick up a sword and some armor and get to it.
 
2012-03-05 11:49:36 AM  
I have well over 100 hours on TF2, and I only started playing when it went free.

The clock on Castlevania: Symphony of the Night stops at 99:59:59.
 
2012-03-05 11:49:43 AM  
If you're a succesful financial trader, yes. (new window)

/yeah, yeah, everyone who has ever worked in the financial industry is evil, blah, blah, blah
 
2012-03-05 11:52:23 AM  

MoronLessOff: The clock on Castlevania: Symphony of the Night stops at 99:59:59.


Now there's a single player game worth the time
 
2012-03-05 11:52:48 AM  

regindyn: My best character was probably Young Link. A little squishy, but had some good maneuverability.

/fear the downstab


I taught many a friend to play smash bros. One of my best friends played young link and he is quiet good with him. Definitely a solid character. Farking sword is a biatch to cancel out!
 
2012-03-05 11:52:54 AM  

Metalupis: Cubicle Jockey: scottydoesntknow: I would read this, but I'm blocking off the next 100+ non-work hours for Mass Effect 3.

/T-minus 14 hours, 25 minutes!



I took tomorrow and Wednesday off, but I have to hurry and finish my ME2 game tonight so all the flags are set the way I want.

I'm in the same boat, trying to finish out a playthrough (at least my third) of ME2 to get everything set how I want it for ME3, will pick up the game tonight, then spend tomorrow finishing off 2 before loading up 3 on wed probably


I'm in the same boat by proxy. Finished 3 playthroughs (Full para, full ren, and my optimal choices), but my girlfriend isn't finished with her run. She just finished Legion's loyalty and is about to take on the Collectors. I keep telling her I won't start ME3 until she finishes, but c'mon! There's a damn galaxy to save!

/Hopefully she'll finish it tonight
 
2012-03-05 11:55:57 AM  
Link

I'm pushing 1700 hours on Team Fortress 2 alone.
I wouldn't want to see what my non-steam games are at.

/Just a bit addicted
 
2012-03-05 12:00:47 PM  
My biggest timesinks:

StarCraft
Diablo II
Thief: The Dark Project
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

(HL2:DM and Baldur's Gate II are runners up. Currently losing time in Global Agenda)
 
2012-03-05 12:02:44 PM  

armanox: Diablo II


Oh dear god. Can't even calculate how many hours I spent on that game. Probably over 500.
 
2012-03-05 12:02:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Honest Bender: Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.

... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.

Was gonna say I would take that challenge, then saw who you wanted to play with (Samus is my girl too). She wrecked everybody. I had that charge-up shot timed perfectly, could hit you across the map no matter what. And her throw whip just pissed people off.


Very little original Smash, almost all my time was spent with Melee. Best with Sheik, but invested significant time learning about half of the roster. I really liked using Bowser and the Ice Climbers.

Funny you mention Samus; the reaction to having a fully-charged plasma ball cancelled out by a simple Sheik needle toss was always glorious.
 
2012-03-05 12:03:43 PM  
I've only put that much time into one game:
Solitaire.

Currently, I've got five hours into Burrito Bison Revenge. The kids LOVE this game.
 
2012-03-05 12:03:55 PM  
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3: 110 hours played

Started in December.

:(
 
2012-03-05 12:06:39 PM  
Is it worth spending 100 hours of your life reading storys on the internet? Not if this is the level of journalism i can expect to read.
 
2012-03-05 12:08:33 PM  
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/20/disgaea-3-absence-of-detention-1 0 -million-hours-played/

Disgaea fans logged 10 million hours on Disgaea 3 in the first 2 months after the vita Release.

All hail Disgaea the Ultimate timesink.
 
2012-03-05 12:09:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Honest Bender: Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.

... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.

Was gonna say I would take that challenge, then saw who you wanted to play with (Samus is my girl too). She wrecked everybody. I had that charge-up shot timed perfectly, could hit you across the map no matter what. And her throw whip just pissed people off.

/Smash Bros is one of the best fighting games ever
//They nerfed her in Brawl.


It seems like the one universal with people who played a lot of Smash Brothers with their close group of friends is that everyone thinks they're amazing at the game. I felt this way, too, until I played in a couple tournaments and was quickly disabused of this notion.

Though the fun thing about having played excessively before even seeing tournament level play is getting good at characters that are not top tier, so people who only play in tournaments never see them. You won't win, but you'll surprise a lot of people when you put up a good fight with, say, Ness.
 
2012-03-05 12:09:22 PM  

DamnYankees: armanox: Diablo II

Oh dear god. Can't even calculate how many hours I spent on that game. Probably over 500.


yup, was the main game I played through most of high school, along with Unreal Tournament
 
2012-03-05 12:10:17 PM  
Counting MMOs...
WoW over 5 years of playing at a minimum of 50 hours a week... I would say about 13000 hours minimum.

Just started playing Star Trek Online and have already clocked about 60 hours in a week. Something about exploring the Alpha quadrant is to fun.

Aeon was about 100 hours over a month.

Battlefield 1942 has to be in the 10000s easily.
Battlefield 2 also in the 10000s with no problems.

Guild Wars is high up there too. Not as high as WoW but I would wager about 2000-5000 hours over a few years.
 
2012-03-05 12:10:54 PM  

Honest Bender: 3 part amulet quest (totally not worth it, btw)


Gauldar's? It ups the big 3 stats by 30 points each. I lost a follower in that final battle and it was still worth it.

Man, I don't get people who power through Skyrim. I'm at over 100 hours and have only completed main & thieves guild quests. I just started exploring Blackreach, haven't reached level 40.
 
2012-03-05 12:11:00 PM  

yves0010: WoW over 5 years of playing at a minimum of 50 hours a week


Was this your actual job? How is this possible?
 
2012-03-05 12:11:46 PM  

Teenwolf: scottydoesntknow: Honest Bender: Misplaced yat: I don't even want to contemplate the sheer number of hours my roommates and I logged just playing Smash Bros. It would probably make this author vomit.

... Did I room with you in college? Because my friends and I used to play, like, 6-8 hours of Smash. Bros. nearly every day for 3 years.

I will challenge and beat anyone at any version of that game.

/Samus on smash bros.

Was gonna say I would take that challenge, then saw who you wanted to play with (Samus is my girl too). She wrecked everybody. I had that charge-up shot timed perfectly, could hit you across the map no matter what. And her throw whip just pissed people off.

/Smash Bros is one of the best fighting games ever
//They nerfed her in Brawl.

It seems like the one universal with people who played a lot of Smash Brothers with their close group of friends is that everyone thinks they're amazing at the game. I felt this way, too, until I played in a couple tournaments and was quickly disabused of this notion.

Though the fun thing about having played excessively before even seeing tournament level play is getting good at characters that are not top tier, so people who only play in tournaments never see them. You won't win, but you'll surprise a lot of people when you put up a good fight with, say, Ness.


Who didn't miss being top dog at the local arcade back in the day? Facing down an endless horde of people putting their quarters on the glass to signify their challenge?
 
2012-03-05 12:15:43 PM  

MoronLessOff: I have well over 100 hours on TF2, and I only started playing when it went free.

The clock on Castlevania: Symphony of the Night stops at 99:59:59.


You miserable little pile of secrets.
 
2012-03-05 12:18:03 PM  

Cat With Two Heads: Honest Bender: 3 part amulet quest (totally not worth it, btw)

Gauldar's? It ups the big 3 stats by 30 points each. I lost a follower in that final battle and it was still worth it.

Man, I don't get people who power through Skyrim. I'm at over 100 hours and have only completed main & thieves guild quests. I just started exploring Blackreach, haven't reached level 40.


I'm at 45 hours with just Theives Guild, some side quests, and half the main story. I set it down to finish up other games first so I could spend more time in Skyrim, I can't imagine 60 hours would be enough.
 
2012-03-05 12:18:14 PM  
Diablo II I probably had around 10,000 hours. But in my defense I ran a bot while I was at school doing Pindleskin runs.

Wake up, turn on D2 and load up bot. Come home 9 hours later and find some sweet loot.
 
2012-03-05 12:23:25 PM  

Cat With Two Heads: Gauldar's? It ups the big 3 stats by 30 points each. I lost a follower in that final battle and it was still worth it.


"Increases your Health, Magicka, and Stamina by 30 points."

That's a piece of garbage.

Teenwolf: It seems like the one universal with people who played a lot of Smash Brothers with their close group of friends is that everyone thinks they're amazing at the game. I felt this way, too, until I played in a couple tournaments and was quickly disabused of this notion.

Though the fun thing about having played excessively before even seeing tournament level play is getting good at characters that are not top tier, so people who only play in tournaments never see them. You won't win, but you'll surprise a lot of people when you put up a good fight with, say, Ness.


Back in the Original Smash Bros. days, my roommate and I entered multiple tournaments over several years. We spanked the competition every time. They always came down to him and me in the end.

Once you play enough, it's trivial to play well with any of the characters. I could give you a fight for your life with yoshi or jigglypuff.
 
2012-03-05 12:23:58 PM  
I don't mind the "learn by dying" mode, if loading doesn't take too long. Load, die, reset the environment, and then die again.

Deus Ex I just gave up on last night. I'm to the point where I spend more time waiting to sneak up behind someone, followed by loading, than actually accomplishing anything. I don't have enough enhancements to do what I need to do, and no way to get them. I've pilfered almost every space I can find to buy credits, to the point that when it said find someone's apartment, I already found it and just had to walk near it.

And this from someone who spent well over 200 hours in Thief: The Dark Project sneaking around and waiting for things to happen. Thief was more entertaining because there were things to find and investigate.

And oddly enough, I enjoyed playing Bionic Commando, rage quitting nightly, and then re-playing once I finished. Now it's endless fun. I have no problem with any of this, when it's well done. Fallout 3 I spent a million hours trying to find everything, and re-played it to find more.


As long as I'm ranting, the one problem I have in these games is that if I were a real person in that world, I would have much more information, background, and awareness. Pushing the wrong button grenades your character instead of holstering your pistol, that's a problem. Especially when the controls don't match most other games. Not being able to look that extra inch to see if someone is there, that's a problem. Being two inches too far away from a wall so you can't hide behind it, wasting a button press, and getting shotgunned to death is a problem. Not knowing how the environment works and having to learn by dying is what sucks.

All of these things are preventable by having more introductory levels, maybe clearly labeled as optional and achievement free so you can skip on if you want. Top notch games integrate this very well. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is a very short game, but it screwed up one minor point. I played through without trying any of the challenges, because they seemed like needless distraction. But the whole point is to practice new skills and get better. Having played through and exited the game to do the challenges as they appear, it still feels mis-ordered because you have to unlock the challenge by proving basic competence in that skill. Learn by dying, exit the game, then practice more. Nice idea, poorly done. Especially when things like stringing saber attacks and deflecting missiles are basically timing issues (Dance Dance Revolution style, Dragon's Lair style).

As a casual gamer, the only way for me to really "get" a game is start it on easy/child/babypants mode, and replay on normal mode. That doubles play time, because while the replay goes faster I also do more.
 
2012-03-05 12:26:29 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I think you get more 'worth' out of it with a stand-alone game like Skyrim or Diablo 2 than you do with an MMO like WoW. Games like WoW are built to lock you into a level-grind so you will continue paying monthly fees for a simulated sense of accomplishment. Getting 100 hours out of a single $50 purchase seems like a pretty good deal by comparison.

A season of a regular TV show costs about $50 when it first comes out - it has about 8.5 hours of footage (~23 episodes of 22 minutes each). So to get 100 hours of enjoyment out of it I'd have to watch it roughly 12 times. So 100 hours of Skyrim is about as worth it as buying a season of a TV show on DVD that I like enough to watch a dozen times. Plus its more interactive.


Wow quests, and star wars even moreso, have every bit as much story in them as skyrim.

I don't play mmos these days because you rarely get to play for half an hour to an hour and feel like you did anything.
 
2012-03-05 12:26:38 PM  
I'm pretty close to 100 hours logged in Dark Souls at the moment.
 
2012-03-05 12:27:35 PM  
Time wasted:

4. Fallout 3
3. Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
2. Europa Universalis 3
1. Sports Interactive's Football Manager series
 
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