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		If you can write an entire piece on what Apple "really" needs to do and not explain at all why they need to do it, then they probably don't "really" need to do it (informationweek.com)		47
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Dj Orange Threat		2012-03-05 11:28:30 AM

keeps redirecting me to information week mobile edition where there is no article.

physt		2012-03-05 11:29:36 AM

Interesting reading if only to see just how clueless someone can be.

Rev. Creflo Baller		2012-03-05 11:31:44 AM

You didn't miss much. It's terrible and linking to it amounts to "this milk is spoiled, smell it!"

naveline		2012-03-05 11:33:01 AM

physt: Interesting reading if only to see just how clueless someone can be.

You have a very broad definition of "interesting."

Friskya		2012-03-05 11:33:14 AM

Dj Orange Threat: keeps redirecting me to information week mobile edition where there is no article.

Farking from a phone isn't for the weak of heart.

Friskya		2012-03-05 11:35:35 AM

Dj Orange Threat: keeps redirecting me to information week mobile edition where there is no article.

Here ya go...

What iPad 3 Really Needs: Revised OS

Apple's iOS is starting to get a little long in the tooth. There, I said it. The overall look and feel of the operating system has not changed since its 2007 debut. Sure, Apple has piled in plenty of new features, but the core of the operating system is the same as it was five years ago. It needs a refresh. I'm not saying iOS is ugly or anything, but it's starting to look a little old.

Apple is expected to announce a new version of iOS when it debuts the iPad 3 next week at its event scheduled in San Francisco. That update is iOS 5.1. It is not a major update, and is believed to only add a few minor changes to the way the camera is accessed from the lock screen and support for Japanese in Siri.

Apple might (might!) provide a preview of iOS 6 at the event. It has, in the past, provided a first glimpse at future versions of iOS months in advance. The iPad 3 launch would be a good opportunity for Apple to do that.

What would I like Apple to change? Well, I'm no design guru, but I am sure Apple has enough creative juices to turn out a more visually appealing operating system. I'd like to see a sharper-looking operating system, with fewer curves and more corners. Not Windows 8-style corners and blocks, but something that has cleaner lines to it.

The operating system could use some more features, but that will always be true of any platform. Things that iOS lacks that other platforms capitalize on? Widgets, the ability to control files/folders, re-sizable home-screen elements, control over the number and placement of home-screen panels, and so on.

Apple's competitors have not only added features to their platforms, but have made visual upgrades as well. Look at Android, for example. The change in the operating system's appearance between Android 2.x/3.x and Android 4.0 is incredible. Everything about the OS was redesigned and it looks much, much better now. Windows Phone is too young to require a refresh, but even Research In Motion has altered the appearance of BlackBerry 7 when you compare it to Blackberry 5.

Frankly speaking, I don't expect Apple to change anything about iOS's appearance in the near future, but it will have to eventually. What will be most interesting is to see how--or if--Apple brings Mac OS X Mountain Lion features to iOS, rather than bringing features from iOS to Mountain Lion. Now that Microsoft has aligned the look of its PC, tablet, and smartphone platforms, it would behoove Apple to do the same.

JW		2012-03-05 11:37:56 AM

Article summarized:

"I hope iPad 3 includes the following

1) Less rounded curves on icons
2) Android home screen features including widgets

I justify this by pointing to Android and showing the big change from 2 to 4. Therefore iOS can do the same."

Now you don't need to read the article.

armanox		2012-03-05 11:52:06 AM

We don't need change for the sake of change.

Swarley		2012-03-05 11:58:10 AM

I'm not an Apple user, but didn't iOS pioneer the whole widget thing? And I know you can control different home screens, at least by using that rotating cube user switcher. And isn't the whole purpose of an OS to control files and folders and interface with the hardware? I find all of this guy's criticisms a little... suspect. I get the feeling his Apple experience is a little less than mine, and mine amounts to clicking around some stuff at the Best Buy display.

rocinante721		2012-03-05 12:04:08 PM

SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

_{Thank you}

Friskya		2012-03-05 12:08:26 PM

rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

I don't think that was mentioned in TFA.

VonEvilstein		2012-03-05 12:15:46 PM

The short version:

"I want it to look different and have more stuff."

ballistic123		2012-03-05 12:19:22 PM

rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

This!

Safari shiats the bed 4-5 times a day for me. I have an iPad 1, but still. I find it impossible to think that anyone would consider this acceptable.

Also, and this may be obvious to everyone but Apple, but AUTOCORRECT IS BROKEN. There are entire blogs dedicated to this, yet everyone seems to just accept it and laugh it off. It can be fixed in any number of ways, from showing possible options, to allowing the option to just autoinsert punctuation and not change the words (since some punctuation, stupidly, has been put on a second page of the keyboard. Actually, they could always fix the keyboard as well.)

t3knomanser		2012-03-05 12:23:44 PM

ballistic123: It can be fixed in any number of ways, from showing possible options

It does this, although not in the most elegant way. Cancel autocorrect and hold on the mispelled word, and you get a list of options.

What kills me, and this is more for the iPhone than the iPad, is how hard it is to hit the spacebar. I don't know what it is about how I type, but so much of what I type on iOS devices lookslikethis. It's the single biggest target on the screen, yet I can't hit it to save my life when I'm actually typing. I assume I'm impacting on the side.

Saborlas		2012-03-05 12:26:54 PM

"Apple doing what it doesn't really need to do" is Apple's biz model. If it weren't for hipsters with more money than they know what to do with, Apple would have gone bankrupt by now.

/how do you know someone's an Apple customer?
//just wait, they'll tell you... they always find a way to force it into an unrelated conversation...

Dj Orange Threat		2012-03-05 12:29:50 PM

Friskya: Dj Orange Threat: keeps redirecting me to information week mobile edition where there is no article.

Farking from a phone isn't for the weak of heart.

I wasn't on my phone :(. Thanks for helping a liter out!

solokumba		2012-03-05 12:34:22 PM

Saborlas: If it weren't for hipsters with more money than they know what to do with

i'm so glad to be in this category.
sure beats being in the tool with no money category

Bullseyed		2012-03-05 12:41:21 PM

Swarley: I'm not an Apple user, but didn't iOS pioneer the whole widget thing? And I know you can control different home screens, at least by using that rotating cube user switcher. And isn't the whole purpose of an OS to control files and folders and interface with the hardware? I find all of this guy's criticisms a little... suspect. I get the feeling his Apple experience is a little less than mine, and mine amounts to clicking around some stuff at the Best Buy display.

Apple didn't pioneer anything. Except for trying to trademark "app" as short for "Apple program" instead of "application".

He also mentions how Apple doesn't allow folder access, but there is little chance Apple with change that. iOS is for idiots who cannot handle root file access. Android is for grown ups and people with above average IQs.

Bullseyed		2012-03-05 12:42:08 PM

rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

Apple products just work! (tm)

Bullseyed		2012-03-05 12:49:59 PM

solokumba: Saborlas: If it weren't for hipsters with more money than they know what to do with

i'm so glad to be in this category.
sure beats being in the tool with no money category

By hipster with more money than they know what to do with he means works at Starbucks for minimum wage while living at mom's house so they don't have to pay rent and utilities.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost		2012-03-05 12:54:29 PM

rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

I'm not too sure how often Safari crashes in iOS, but I have browser crashes from time to time with various flavors of Android.

machoprogrammer		2012-03-05 01:14:05 PM

rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

But Apple products never crash! They not only never crash and "just work", but they also are 100% immune to viruses, spyware and bad applications. That is what the fanbois tell me, at least.

solokumba		2012-03-05 01:20:44 PM

Bullseyed: solokumba: Saborlas: If it weren't for hipsters with more money than they know what to do with

i'm so glad to be in this category.
sure beats being in the tool with no money category

By hipster with more money than they know what to do with he means works at Starbucks for minimum wage while living at mom's house so they don't have to pay rent and utilities.

then he should have said a person that works at Starbucks for minimum wage while living at mom's house so they don't have to pay rent and utilities

so... what do i mean when I say tool with no money?

oh wait, i think you answered that too.

/hates starbucks
//has mucho expenditure income

t3knomanser		2012-03-05 02:04:06 PM

machoprogrammer: That is what the fanbois tell me, at least.

No, that's what you think the "fanbois" say, and by "fanboi", you of course mean, "anyone who owns an Apple product". You might also be thinking of Fark trolls.

Millennium		2012-03-05 02:12:23 PM

What Apple really needs to do is remember that making a machine easy to use does not mean crippling what it can do. They understood this for a long time -they were pioneers in the school of thought, once- and why they forgot, I don't claim to know. But forget they did, and that needs to be corrected.

bemis23		2012-03-05 02:13:52 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

I'm not too sure how often Safari crashes in iOS, but I have browser crashes from time to time with various flavors of Android.

So I

bemis23		2012-03-05 02:14:48 PM

bemis23: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

I'm not too sure how often Safari crashes in iOS, but I have browser crashes from time to time with various flavors of Android.

So I

Comment eaten. "So I love my EVO running CM7, but the only browser I like is Opera Mini and it crashes constantly. Really pisses me off.

poot_rootbeer		2012-03-05 02:31:21 PM

Bullseyed: iOS is for idiots who cannot handle root file access. Android is for idiots who think they can handle root file access.

zez		2012-03-05 02:52:06 PM

bemis23: Comment eaten. "So I love my EVO running CM7, but the only browser I like is Opera Mini and it crashes constantly. Really pisses me off.

Have you tried Dolphin?

DontMakeMeComeBackThere		2012-03-05 03:00:26 PM

Dear article writer,

When you have a company with $80 billion in the bank, no debt, and a stock price of well over $500 a share, we'll listen to your opinion.

Yours,
Apple, and Steve Jobs ghost

neilbradley		2012-03-05 03:34:48 PM

subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

t3knomanser		2012-03-05 03:44:38 PM

neilbradley: subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

It was sarcasm.

t3knomanser		2012-03-05 03:45:18 PM

t3knomanser: neilbradley: subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

It was sarcasm.

Not subby, I just understand the English language and how to read.

clovis69		2012-03-05 04:07:19 PM

iOS needs one thing. A decent management tool for backups, restores and application deployment.

clovis69		2012-03-05 04:08:52 PM

ballistic123: Safari shiats the bed 4-5 times a day for me. I have an iPad 1, but still. I find it impossible to think that anyone would consider this acceptable.

What do you do that crashed Safari on an iPad 1 or 2? I manage 40+ iPads, I get Safari to poop itself maybe once a month and never get a call about Safari being a problem from any of our really vocal users.

neilbradley		2012-03-05 04:09:19 PM

t3knomanser: t3knomanser: neilbradley: subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

It was sarcasm.

Not subby, I just understand the English language and how to read.

Except it wasn't. It was emphasis. How is putting the word "really" in quotes (where emphasis makes sense) sarcasm? The whole statement is sarcasm, but the word "really" isn't.

LikeTheSearchEngine		2012-03-05 04:51:07 PM

neilbradley: t3knomanser: t3knomanser: neilbradley: subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

It was sarcasm.

Not subby, I just understand the English language and how to read.

Except it wasn't. It was emphasis. How is putting the word "really" in quotes (where emphasis makes sense) sarcasm? The whole statement is sarcasm, but the word "really" isn't.

Emphasis or sarcasm:
Guy 1: Apple really needs to update the iOS!
Guy 2: "Really?" Do they "really" need to?

Emphasis or sarcasm?

neilbradley		2012-03-05 04:55:24 PM

LikeTheSearchEngine: neilbradley: t3knomanser: t3knomanser: neilbradley: subby, STOP USING QUOTES FOR EMPHASIS! They indicate sarcasm!

It was sarcasm.

Not subby, I just understand the English language and how to read.

Except it wasn't. It was emphasis. How is putting the word "really" in quotes (where emphasis makes sense) sarcasm? The whole statement is sarcasm, but the word "really" isn't.

Emphasis or sarcasm:
Guy 1: Apple really needs to update the iOS!
Guy 2: "Really?" Do they "really" need to?

Emphasis or sarcasm?

Emphasis, obviously.

LikeTheSearchEngine		2012-03-05 05:13:17 PM

neilbradley: Emphasis, obviously.

No, see, it could be either, but since the quotes are there, it is sarcasm!

machoprogrammer		2012-03-05 05:45:35 PM

t3knomanser: machoprogrammer: That is what the fanbois tell me, at least.

No, that's what you think the "fanbois" say, and by "fanboi", you of course mean, "anyone who owns an Apple product". You might also be thinking of Fark trolls.

No, I have heard Apple fanbois actually say that. Hell, read a Fark Mac vs PC thread.

illegal.tender		2012-03-05 06:54:03 PM

machoprogrammer: rocinante721: SAFARI THAT STOPS CRASHING !!!

Thank you

But Apple products never crash! They not only never crash and "just work", but they also are 100% immune to viruses, spyware and bad applications. That is what the fanbois tell me, at least.

[citation needed]

I have never seen such claims made. I will, however, make the following claims:

1) No one has ever claimed Apple products never crash.
2) There has never been an "in the wild" virus for OS X
3) If by "spyware" you mean keyloggers, network activity monitors viz. Wireshark, etc., those are general purpose programs which can be installed on any computer -- OS X, Windows, Linux, etc. -- which you have sufficient access to. For iOS I am not aware of any such programs making it on to the app store.
4) No one outside of your imagination has claimed there are no "bad applications" for OS X or iOS. Ever.

t3knomanser		2012-03-05 07:12:46 PM

machoprogrammer: Hell, read a Fark Mac vs PC thread.

I have. I only see PC people really investing into those flamewars though, erecting strawmen and beating the stuffing out of them.

neilbradley: Emphasis, obviously.

No, it's clearly sarcasm. Apple "really" needs to do X. Apple "really" needs to put Zombie Steve Jobs in charge and let him feast on fanboi brains.

Oakenshield		2012-03-05 07:24:26 PM

A truthful headline on Fark. Jesus. The end times really are upon us.

Epicanis		2012-03-06 12:23:43 AM

Just add (or at least ALLOW) support for WebM and/or Ogg Vorbis media.
Beyond that, none of the other features iOS lacks really affects me.

/Mainly because there's no way I'm likely to ever be a major Apple customer anyway
//Would be nice if I didn't have to worry about license fees for permission to let Apple users play homebrewed media I might post

magus007		2012-03-06 01:38:25 AM

We don't need change for the sake of change?

I agree. So why do you fanboys queue up for the same product every year claiming that it is substantially different and a cure for cancer? Anyone who could spot the difference between the iPhone4 and the iPhone4S was delusional. The iPad 2 and the orginal iPad were label changes. Apple keeps serving up the same winning formula and dumb nuts spend a fortune for it.

ballistic123		2012-03-06 10:33:44 AM

clovis69: ballistic123: Safari shiats the bed 4-5 times a day for me. I have an iPad 1, but still. I find it impossible to think that anyone would consider this acceptable.

What do you do that crashed Safari on an iPad 1 or 2? I manage 40+ iPads, I get Safari to poop itself maybe once a month and never get a call about Safari being a problem from any of our really vocal users.

Load anything with video that doesn't redirect to the Youtube app. It's clearly a memory allocation issue, despite all the unfortunate tricks Safari uses to combat them.

/Ever tried to use Google Reader in tabbed mode in Safari? Very frustrating.