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(Mother Nature Network)   Donald Trump learns that before building a mega golf course, it's probably best to check the proposed offshore winds   (mnn.com) divider line 45
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2012-03-05 08:34:36 AM  
At the time, Trump vowed to block the $327 million renewable energy project supported by the European Commission and the Scottish government using "any legal means" in fear that the turbines would compromise his views.

Awww... He sounds just like Ted Kennedy. How precious.
 
2012-03-05 09:43:58 AM  
Renewable energy will destroy Scotland and a swanky golf resort will save it?

It must be nice having so much wealth to protect you from your own stupidity.
 
2012-03-05 10:01:18 AM  
Renowned for his levelheadedness, ability to compromise and ecological concern, Donald Trump vows to halt construction on his golf development unless the Scottish government axes a proposed wind farm.

I will stop and appreciate the good sarcasm.
 
2012-03-05 10:05:06 AM  
Aren't there enough golf courses in Scotland?
 
2012-03-05 11:19:03 AM  
Are you suggesting that Trump has the mental capacity to LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES, subby?
 
2012-03-05 11:20:17 AM  
Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.
 
2012-03-05 11:23:02 AM  
Why do people give this guy money to invest?
 
2012-03-05 11:24:10 AM  

SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.


You sound poor and fat without any golf clubs.
 
2012-03-05 11:26:46 AM  
I don't really understand why this supposedly "destroys the views". I think giant windmills are pretty cool looking. I remember driving through some state that had a ton of them, maybe Indiana, and the kids were awestruck at all the massive windmills.

I'm kinda surprised too that Scotland doesn't already have enough golf resorts. I guess there can never be enough as long as there's some empty land to raze.
 
2012-03-05 11:29:08 AM  
well it is a fact that Trump hates anything wind related

www.rumproast.com
 
2012-03-05 11:30:31 AM  

SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.


This.

But I also farking hate playing golf.

I've given it an honest try, but found it to be just about the least fun way I could ever imagine spending a weekend afternoon.
 
2012-03-05 11:40:43 AM  

WhackingDay: I don't really understand why this supposedly "destroys the views". I think giant windmills are pretty cool looking. I remember driving through some state that had a ton of them, maybe Indiana, and the kids were awestruck at all the massive windmills.

I'm kinda surprised too that Scotland doesn't already have enough golf resorts. I guess there can never be enough as long as there's some empty land to raze.


Can't help but think this as well. Giant windmills look pretty impressive and I have only seen relatively small ones on land.
 
2012-03-05 11:47:54 AM  
As Rodney Dangerfiel'ds character in Caddyshack said, "Golf courses and cemeteries, biggest waste of land there is". fark golf.

If this doesn't pan out, Trump can just declare bankruptcy like he did the five other times.
 
2012-03-05 11:48:23 AM  

SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.


To be entirely fair, most (not all) of the golfcourses in my area are built in semi-swampy floodplains, so they turn a malarial swamp into something other than a malarial swamp.

/And yes, I know we don't have malaria in the US anymore, but give me my hyperbole.
//Mostly because if we did have malarial swamps, the golf course I worked at would have been one of them
 
2012-03-05 11:57:45 AM  

meyerkev: SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.

To be entirely fair, most (not all) of the golfcourses in my area are built in semi-swampy floodplains, so they turn a malarial swamp into something other than a malarial swamp.

/And yes, I know we don't have malaria in the US anymore, but give me my hyperbole.
//Mostly because if we did have malarial swamps, the golf course I worked at would have been one of them


Which actually is a very bad thing as wetlands such as swamps, tidepools, etc. are some of the most threateneed, and fragile, ecosystems. They also serve important erosion prevention purposes in certain geographic locales.

/we can, have, and still do spray for mosquitos.
 
2012-03-05 11:58:28 AM  
Has anyone calculated the efficiency of harnessing Trump's hyperventilating as a means of generating energy? I'll withhold judgement on backing a wind farm over a pompous wind bag until I've seen the maths.
 
2012-03-05 12:30:02 PM  

Von_Ruff: Has anyone calculated the efficiency of harnessing Trump's hyperventilating as a means of generating energy? I'll withhold judgement on backing a wind farm over a pompous wind bag until I've seen the maths.


Why do you think Scotland chose that exact spot for the wind farm? With Trump's bloviating it'll probably be the only wind farm in the whole world not to need massive government subsidies or price supports to be "profitable."
 
2012-03-05 12:34:59 PM  
Donald Trump making a spectacularly bad business decision? What hogwash!

Why, it's about as likely as Rush Limbaugh slandering a woman by calling her a prostitute and then losing at least 7 sponsors from his show because of it.
 
2012-03-05 12:49:40 PM  
SuburbanCowboy


Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.

Yeah, that was the case in 1970. My dad was a course superintendent for 40 or so years from the 1960's to the late 90's. Indeed back in the day golf courses were toxic as it gets, mercury based fungicides, 2-4D, harsh chemical fertilizers etc. Now it's organic fertilizers, very few chemicals and using optimizing growing conditions to prevent weeds and the like. Golf courses are less toxic than your lawn as you are allowed to use products long banned on golf courses. Look at it as a park, why do you hate parks?
What there are is too many golf courses. 17,000 in North America for a dwindling population of players, they are almost getting impossible to sustain without the real estate subsidizing the operations.

Of course real estate will always increase in value so there is no problem.....:D
 
2012-03-05 12:52:44 PM  

JimmyFartpants: SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.

This.

But I also farking hate playing golf.

I've given it an honest try, but found it to be just about the least fun way I could ever imagine spending a weekend afternoon.


CSB time

I used to live in Las Vegas. I tried going golfing twice, months apart, while I lived there because so much business is done on the course. It rained both times. I then went to an outdoor driving range to get the motions down. It rained the five times I did that. I decided that I wasn't meant to golf.*

/*Or I'm a rain god
 
2012-03-05 12:58:59 PM  
Donald Trump vows to halt construction on his golf development unless the Scottish government axes a proposed wind farm.

Something, something, briar patch?
 
2012-03-05 01:39:27 PM  

Von_Ruff: Has anyone calculated the efficiency of harnessing Trump's hyperventilating as a means of generating energy?


Yes. But it was found economically unfeasible to scrub out the noxious fumes and carcinogenic liquids. More trouble than it's worth. The same conclusion was found when studying Rush Limbaugh's flatulence and John Boehner's tears.
 
Juc
2012-03-05 01:56:22 PM  

WhackingDay: I don't really understand why this supposedly "destroys the views". I think giant windmills are pretty cool looking. I remember driving through some state that had a ton of them, maybe Indiana, and the kids were awestruck at all the massive windmills.


I think the same thing, wind farms look pretty awesome.
 
2012-03-05 02:24:53 PM  
Not really sure why Scotland couldn't find some less annoying, more cooperative, less perpetually-broke-investor-ripoff-artist-liar to complete the planned development.
 
2012-03-05 03:02:33 PM  
At least all those windmills will keep them cool.
 
2012-03-05 03:09:33 PM  

m1ke: At least all those windmills will keep them cool.


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2012-03-05 03:33:34 PM  
Just show The Donald to The Door, and tell him not to let it hit him in the arse on the way out.

Seriously, the idea that this mealy-mouthed bastard can somehow override the energy and ecological needs of an entire region because he doesn't want windmills cluttering up his view is farcical. Kick him to the curb, tell him the windmill farm is approved, and move on. He's a schmuck.
 
2012-03-05 03:34:18 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.


You know what a golf course is? The waste of a perfectly good rifle range.
 
2012-03-05 04:13:17 PM  

New Age Redneck: SuburbanCowboy


Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.

Yeah, that was the case in 1970. My dad was a course superintendent for 40 or so years from the 1960's to the late 90's. Indeed back in the day golf courses were toxic as it gets, mercury based fungicides, 2-4D, harsh chemical fertilizers etc. Now it's organic fertilizers, very few chemicals and using optimizing growing conditions to prevent weeds and the like. Golf courses are less toxic than your lawn as you are allowed to use products long banned on golf courses. Look at it as a park, why do you hate parks?
What there are is too many golf courses. 17,000 in North America for a dwindling population of players, they are almost getting impossible to sustain without the real estate subsidizing the operations.

Of course real estate will always increase in value so there is no problem.....:D


Probably depends on jurisdiction, but around here (Ontario) golf courses are exempt from the chemical pesticide ban. They are regulated, but a private lawn essentially has an outright ban.
 
2012-03-05 04:30:18 PM  

cefm: Not really sure why Scotland couldn't find some less annoying, more cooperative, less perpetually-broke-investor-ripoff-artist-liar to complete the planned development.


Exactly. Let Trump pull his "Galt" and give up on his project. Then let someone else come in and complete the development. For bonus points, make sure it's someone Trump hates (Branson, Cuban, or even O'Donnell)
 
2012-03-05 04:37:48 PM  

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blogs.courant.com
Golf is a good walk spoiled.
and that fellow Trump is an asshat.
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2012-03-05 05:01:48 PM  
Aren't these ones so far offshore you'll never see them?
 
2012-03-05 05:02:36 PM  
Nevermind, these ones are only a few km off the coastline.
 
2012-03-05 05:38:56 PM  
Trump is such a blowhard!
 
2012-03-05 06:21:06 PM  

natazha: Donald Trump vows to halt construction on his golf development unless the Scottish government axes a proposed wind farm.

Something, something, briar patch?


Winner: MVP for thread 3977005.
 
2012-03-05 06:21:43 PM  

blahpers: natazha: Donald Trump vows to halt construction on his golf development unless the Scottish government axes a proposed wind farm.

Something, something, briar patch?

Winner: MVP for thread 3977005.


And thread 6977005. It's two-for-one day for winning threads.
 
2012-03-05 07:05:50 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Why do people give this guy money to invest?


I don't know, but it looks like he's on track to lose a bunch of other people's money.

Again.
 
2012-03-05 08:13:29 PM  
After Breitbart I have renewed hope when I see these farking morons in the news.
 
2012-03-05 09:06:57 PM  
If wind turbines pumped oil, every golfer would want some of those freedom towers near the course. As it is, being forced to look at wind turbines is just a big 'fark you' from the hippies.
 
2012-03-05 09:36:20 PM  

JimmyFartpants: SuburbanCowboy: Is golf the most environmentally destructive sport on the planet? I would imagine motorsports are pretty bad, but Golf takes a large mass of land and turns it into grass which has to be constantly mowed, edged, watered, and sprayed with fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides so a bunch of rich people can hit a ball and chase it with a cart.

This.

But I also farking hate playing golf.



I enjoy golf from time to time, but I still have to agree with the original statement.
Maybe I'll develop "Enviro-Golf" courses. They'll be all natural, and even the fairways and greens are in the rough, if you can find them.
 
2012-03-05 09:46:00 PM  
Greatest golf course in history. It's the biggest, it's the best, it's a golf course God himself would build. Scotland weeps with joy at the prospect of me, Donald Trump, choosing to build a golf course in their homeland. It's going to be a bigger deal than St. Andrews.

And Derek Jeter's gonna be there...
 
2012-03-05 11:22:08 PM  
the self important wacko has deprived his children of a personal identity. I believe the man would eat his young if it added years or youth
 
2012-03-06 12:40:04 AM  

Chunky Pumpkinhead: I believe the man would eat his young if it added years or youth


Solipsism shouldn't be a super power.
 
2012-03-06 10:11:40 AM  
Don't worry, the environmentalists will eventually decide the turbines endanger geese and they'll get with Trump to quash it.
 
2012-03-06 11:15:49 PM  

Dear Jerk: If wind turbines pumped oil, every golfer would want some of those freedom towers near the course. As it is, being forced to look at wind turbines is just a big 'fark you' from the hippies.


Absolutely true. Trump was on CNBC the other day saying the government should allow the oil companies to drill everywhere. Oil rigs spilling on public beaches or killing the fish on the grounds your family has been working for generations to put food on the table is OK with him, but a few wind turbines spoiling his scenic view of the bay is unacceptable. What a jackass.
 
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