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(Vancouver Sun)   Human life traced back to beginning as a worm. Man was made in the image of his noodly appendage   (vancouversun.com) divider line 207
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2012-03-05 10:31:06 AM
Very cool article, Subby, and the headline made me smile.

/in before the idiots creationists
 
2012-03-05 11:27:52 AM
In before someone takes offense to this.
 
2012-03-05 11:33:35 AM
The fossil record is sketchy on our ancestors as soft tissue tends to preserve imperfectly in all but ideal conditions, like those of the shale.

In its heyday, the average Pikaia would have grown to the length of a human thumb. It was a flat creature, with a head the size of a period. Two tentacles sprung from the front.

"Those are enigmatic," Caron said. "Perhaps they were used for feeding, but their role is not very clear.


Darwin produced embarrassingly little concrete evidence to back up some of his most important claims. This includes the change of one species into another in succeeding geological strata, or the production of new structures and taxonomic types by natural selection. ~ Ernst Mayr

One might suppose that Darwin, like his modern intellectual descendants, saw in the fossil record a confirmation of his theory -- the literal documentation of life's evolution from the Cambrian to the present day. In fact, the two chapters devoted to geology in The Origin of Species are anything but celebratory. On the contrary, they constitute a carefully worded apology in which Darwin argues that evolution by natural selection is correct despite an evident lack of support from fossils. ~ Andrew Knoll

Darwin invoked his standard argument to resolve this uncomfortable problem: the fossil record is so imperfect that we do not have evidence for most events of life's history. But even Darwin acknowledged that his favorite ploy was wearing a bit thin in this case. His argument could easily account for a missing stage in a single linage, but could the agencies of imperfection really obliterate absolutely all evidence for positively every creature during most of life's history? Darwin admitted: "The case as present must remain inexplicable; and may be truly urged as a valid argument against the views here entertained." (1859, p.308)

Darwin has been vindicated by a rich Precambrian record, all discovered in the past thirty years. Yet the peculiar character of this evidence has not matched Darwin's prediction of a continuous rise in complexity toward Cambrian life, and the problem of the Cambrian explosion has remained as stubborn as ever -- if not more so, since our confusion now rests on knowledge, rather than ignorance about the nature of Precambrian life. ~ Stephen Jay Gould

The intervals of time that separate fossils are so huge that we cannot say anything definite about their possible connection through ancestry and descent. ~ Henry Gee

Fossils may tell us many things, but one thing they can never disclose is whether they were ancestors of anything else. ~ Colin Patterson
 
2012-03-05 11:36:09 AM
In b4 Bev... nevermind
 
2012-03-05 11:37:49 AM
Bevets: Derp

Well that didn't take long. Thanks for the misleading, out of context quotes. You've completely convinced me to ignore the millions of cases of evidence for evolution in favour of your particular brand of mythology.
 
2012-03-05 11:43:45 AM
Bevets, do you ever have an original thought that isn't a quote? It really looks like you protest too much, like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone,
 
2012-03-05 11:48:20 AM
Stop feeding him, people.

Just stop it.
 
2012-03-05 11:48:39 AM
Bad news, everybody. I accidentally went back in time and stepped on that thing.
 
2012-03-05 11:49:11 AM
So, let me get this straight..you found some fish fossil, and because it had a spine, you believe we all sprung from it? Wow. Good luck with that piece of "study". Although, people believe that there is some sky wizard hovering over us making a list of things we do, say, and think, and will cast us into a fiery pit if we don't do what he says. So..you might get a few.
 
2012-03-05 11:49:14 AM
Bevets, I encourage you to look up a little something called Nylonaise. Google it. Anyway, to save you some time, I'll explain. It's a little bacterium in a drainage pond that was found. A drainage pond to a nylon factory. Interesting thing, these bacterium evolved to eat a byproduct of nylon manufacture. A byproduct that does not exist in nature. And this new species and the bacterium it evolved from are found in the same pond. The DNA to both was sequenced, and the mutation in the DNA that allowed it such a neat trick was discovered.

Evolution is scientific fact. The universe does not alter itself to accommodate yours or anyone else's whims. Evolution doesn't become wrong if you wish it were hard enough. The universe is definitive; There are right answers out there. Your religion has failed to find those answers. And where religion fails, science succeeds. Over and over again. I'll note you use a tool produced thanks to advances to science to post, rather than prayer which does nothing.
 
2012-03-05 11:50:40 AM
HailRobonia: Bad news, everybody. I accidentally went back in time and stepped on that thing.

Damn you! I am now typing this with no arms!
 
2012-03-05 11:50:58 AM
Sacrilege!
 
2012-03-05 11:51:04 AM
Cpl.D: Bevets, I encourage you to look up a little something called Nylonaise.

Nylonaise? Isn't that the condiment made out of panty hose?
 
2012-03-05 11:51:18 AM
At least he's consistent. I clicked the link expecting the evolution / tinfoil hat / brainwave, or at least a compendium of nonsensical quotes, it is nice to see expectations fulfilled so consistently.
 
2012-03-05 11:51:52 AM
Forgive me, Bevets. I am a worm.

www.belch.com
 
2012-03-05 11:53:13 AM
Cpl.D: Evolution is scientific fact. The universe does not alter itself to accommodate yours or anyone else's whims. Evolution doesn't become wrong if you wish it were hard enough. The universe is definitive; There are right answers out there. Your religion has failed to find those answers. And where religion fails, science succeeds. Over and over again. I'll note you use a tool produced thanks to advances to science to post, rather than prayer which does nothing.

You might as well talk to a brick wall, for all the good it'll do in trying to change Bevets's mind. Just saying :)
 
2012-03-05 11:54:11 AM
"The Mind Worms are the natural defenses of the living Planet--the white blood cells, if you will. In a world in which unassimilated thought represents danger, the Mind Worm seeks out concentrations of sentient mental energy and destroys them, ruthlessly and efficiently.

Commissioner Pravin Lal, "Mind Worm, Mind Worm"
 
2012-03-05 11:55:05 AM
HailRobonia: Bad news, everybody. I accidentally went back in time and stepped on that thing.

hirestandards.files.wordpress.com

/I can't be the only one who read it in his voice (the wording is very, very close)
//link is hot
 
2012-03-05 11:55:42 AM
pictures.mastermarf.com
 
2012-03-05 11:55:58 AM
Sounds to me as though this is more a matter of the origin of the phylum chordata -of which humanity is a part- than of humanity itself. That's far more indirect than Subby (or, for that matter, TFA) makes it out to be: this is not the famous "missing link."

I always wonder why creationists get into such a tizzy about this. The Bible shows the creation story from a God-centric perspective: he reaches over and hits the Spacetime button, then the Planet button, then the Land button, and so on. But the Bible never goes into the ground-level perspective: what a person on the scene would actually have seen as all of this was going on. Is it not possible that science fills in that gap?
 
2012-03-05 11:56:45 AM
The universe is a harsh taskmaster. You struggle from the primordial muck only to have an asteroid wipe everything out 300 million years later. Then it happens again. And again. And again...
 
2012-03-05 11:58:10 AM
And not just ANY worm! They're pretty sure his name was, "Eddie."
 
2012-03-05 11:58:33 AM
Jake Havechek: The universe is a harsh taskmaster. You struggle from the primordial muck only to have an asteroid wipe everything out 300 million years later. Then it happens again. And again. And again...

So... you are saying this has all happened before and will all happen again?

HE'S A FRAKKIN' TOASTER EVERYONE! RUN!!
 
2012-03-05 11:59:15 AM
Hey guys:

Bevets is on ignore. Every time you quote him, I have to put up with his BS again. Thank a-farking-lot.


/Don't feed the trolls
 
2012-03-05 12:00:43 PM
I was a worm before I was a man
I was a creature before I could stand
I will remember before I forget

/Slipknot approved
 
2012-03-05 12:01:56 PM
lyndsayj: You might as well talk to a brick wall, for all the good it'll do in trying to change Bevets's mind. Just saying :)

Oh, I'm familiar with Bevets. If nothing else, he's a handy indicator of what levels of cognitive dissonance the super-religious community has. That he uses arguments that would only work to someone already ignorant of science, critical thinking, and reality in general, just shows us how far said community has regressed. It's like watching something evolution in reverse.
 
2012-03-05 12:02:29 PM
Do they contain fragments of the God-Emperor's memory?
 
2012-03-05 12:04:49 PM
Arkanaut: Do they contain fragments of the God-Emperor's memory?

*rage thrash splat*

Looks like we need another Duncan Idaho....
 
2012-03-05 12:05:56 PM
May Parmesan be upon Him...
i1.kym-cdn.com
Ramen.
 
2012-03-05 12:07:24 PM
I love seeing the red # 4 when I open a thread
 
2012-03-05 12:09:06 PM
BurnShrike: Bevets: Derp

Well that didn't take long. Thanks for the misleading, out of context quotes. You've completely convinced me to ignore the millions of cases of evidence for evolution in favour of your particular brand of mythology.


He just has an auto-troll script that auto-posts his crackpot shiat. I'm sorry, but the level of Derp from him makes me cringe, and i'm a gods-fearing Pagan!
 
2012-03-05 12:09:27 PM
I see someone has restarted the Quote-Bot again.
Thanks a lot...
 
2012-03-05 12:10:04 PM
I would just like to point out a pet peeve of mine, evolution dosen't go backwards, it's not a linear thing, it simply adapts to the conditions 'it's" presented with.
 
2012-03-05 12:11:14 PM
Bevets:

Your copypasta demonstrates the inevitable and universal presence of his noodly appendage.
All Pastafarians, be they baptized by the spirit, herbs, oil, or Parmesan, are one.
Welcome, brother.
 
2012-03-05 12:11:23 PM
Suck it creationists
 
2012-03-05 12:14:23 PM
This worm was on Noah's ark. And I mean on it like stuck to the bottom of it.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it no matter what some elitist "know it all" Satan worshiping scientist says.
 
2012-03-05 12:14:40 PM
While I totally believe in evolution (and God, yes they can coexist), I'm sorry Atheists, I have to give it to the bible this time...

Job 25

Bildad

1 Then Bildad the Shuhite replied:
2 "Dominion and awe belong to God;
he establishes order in the heights of heaven.
3 Can his forces be numbered?
On whom does his light not rise?
4 How then can a mortal be righteous before God?
How can one born of woman be pure?
5 If even the moon is not bright
and the stars are not pure in his eyes,
6 how much less a mortal, who is but a maggot-
a human being, who is only a worm!
"
 
2012-03-05 12:14:41 PM
Would like a word with this

fc04.deviantart.net
 
2012-03-05 12:16:28 PM
Arkanaut: Do they contain fragments of the God-Emperor's memory?

How will you meet your end? As no more than a secret society?
 
2012-03-05 12:17:01 PM
If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?
 
2012-03-05 12:17:36 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
'Ello
 
2012-03-05 12:19:07 PM
It's really depressing that in the year 2012 so many adults still believe in ancient fairy tales.

Sheldon: "Why are you crying?"

Penny: "Because I'm stupid."

Sheldon: "Well, that's no reason to cry. People cry when they are sad.
For instance, I cry because other people are stupid, and that makes me sad."
 
2012-03-05 12:19:24 PM
bevets /maximum trolling - thread /FUUUUUUU
 
2012-03-05 12:20:02 PM
Cyno01: If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?

I ask myself that every time lower life forms show up here on Fark Cyno01... Every time. And I still don't have an answer for it.
 
2012-03-05 12:21:34 PM
Cyno01: If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?

I am 97.2% sure that you're trolling, but just in case...

www.asiahealthcareblog.com
 
2012-03-05 12:23:11 PM
Cyno01: If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?

No, it doesn't. You're just an ignorant tool who substitutes glib talking-points for actual science.
 
2012-03-05 12:25:22 PM
Millennium: I always wonder why creationists get into such a tizzy about this. The Bible shows the creation story from a God-centric perspective: he reaches over and hits the Spacetime button, then the Planet button, then the Land button, and so on. But the Bible never goes into the ground-level perspective: what a person on the scene would actually have seen as all of this was going on. Is it not possible that science fills in that gap?

Creationists get into a tizzy about evolution for two main reasons. First, because evolution challenges the Biblical story as it's written. Second, and perhaps more importantly, because evolution eliminates the greatest argument for a god: the need for a designer.

You're right that some people have tried to reconcile their religion with evolution, but let's be honest about what they're really doing. These people have decided they can't ignore the fact of evolution, but they want to hold on to whatever religion they identify with. This causes, of course, cognitive dissonance. And, they go through mental gymnastics to relieve that dissonance by claiming that the Bible is just metaphor or shouldn't be taken literally or something along those lines.

I find it dishonest...but, it's really not my business what other people choose to believe.
 
2012-03-05 12:27:47 PM
Cyno01: If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?

Is this meant to be ironic?
 
2012-03-05 12:28:16 PM
Cyno01: If thats the case, why are theyre still worms? If evolution is real, then surely humans are the pinnacle of it, if thats the case, then it begs the question, why are their lower life forms left at all besides the ones we consider delicious?

What happens is global warming happens in epochal cyclical events and causes a reversal of magnetic fields but that's okay because Jupiter's magnetic field extends trillions of miles and stuff and we piggy back on it and once in awhile there are these asteroids that go WHOOSH right past and everything on the planet goes OH FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU and either it trails off and it gets back to normal or theres this giant kabam and that zone south of the barrens is all lush and verdant and has cats in it but then the sith show up and yell RAAR all at the same time and everything falls down and flails around by which point some priest has run in waving a J.C. Penny catalog with all the bookmarks in the womens underwear section shouting THIS IS PRON BAN IT and then, raspberry jelly.
 
2012-03-05 12:32:21 PM
StaleCoffee: raspberry jelly.

There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry!
 
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