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(C|Net)   The iPad mini rumors are back, but this time they're confirmed (Actual confirmation not included. Void where prohibited by law.)   (news.cnet.com) divider line 76
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2012-03-03 04:49:45 PM
Well, no one ever said an Apple rumor had to make sense.
 
2012-03-03 05:53:18 PM
So...an iPhone?
 
2012-03-03 06:01:55 PM
Preferable to a MaxiPad
 
2012-03-03 08:07:01 PM

DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?


Or an Ipod Touch.
 
2012-03-03 08:15:15 PM

SilentStrider: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Or an Ipod Touch.


Yeah, what the hell?
 
2012-03-03 08:27:04 PM

WorldCitizen: SilentStrider: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Or an Ipod Touch.

Yeah, what the hell?


As long as it's shiny.
 
2012-03-03 09:37:32 PM

DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?


Done in 2.
 
2012-03-03 09:54:26 PM

DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?


Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?
 
2012-03-03 09:58:52 PM

Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?


Because Apple says so. If they want to change the label machine at the end of the iPod Touch assembly line to label 25% of them as iPad 3 so they can sell them to hipsters for 50 buck more a pop, then they can.
 
2012-03-03 10:02:41 PM
Cnet sucks.
 
2012-03-03 10:03:04 PM
[looks at article]

[sees DigiTimes]

[calls bullshiat]

Even if this was true - there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet. None. Zero. If Apple would think of releasing one - sell its stock now.
 
2012-03-03 10:03:35 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?

Because Apple says so. If they want to change the label machine at the end of the iPod Touch assembly line to label 25% of them as iPad 3 so they can sell them to hipsters for 50 buck more a pop, then they can.


This

also I bet the mini retails for $299 and the ipad2 drops to $349. Hipsters will buy the smaller mini anyhow.
 
2012-03-03 10:05:56 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Because Apple says so. If they want to change the label machine at the end of the iPod Touch assembly line to label 25% of them as iPad 3 so they can sell them to hipsters for 50 buck more a pop, then they can.


Which is complete bullshiat. Apple has released products that were complete shiat (see cube) and people didn't buy them (for obvious reasons). When Apple releases a dud - it will not sell outside of a very extreme segment of their user base - not tens of millions.
 
2012-03-03 10:07:02 PM
nb4 fanbois justifying the need to own a mini iPad AND iPod touch.


/but it comes in white!
 
2012-03-03 10:11:58 PM

Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?


iPad - 9.7 inch screen

new iPad - 7.2 inch screen

iPhone - 3.5 inch screen
 
2012-03-03 10:12:14 PM
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-03-03 10:21:38 PM
Meh. Call me when they release the Maxi iPad.
 
2012-03-03 10:32:23 PM

bravian: [looks at article]

[sees DigiTimes]

[calls bullshiat]

Even if this was true - there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet. None. Zero. If Apple would think of releasing one - sell its stock now.


That statement is retarded. I keep my 7" Android tablet in my Jacket pocket at all times. Great for flights, between meetings, etc, approximately the size of a large paperback, a tons lighter than an iPad. I can see if you prefer the iPad to everything else (and I have seen it first hand, extensively) but to say there is no value in a 7" tablet is intellectually dishonest.
 
2012-03-03 10:33:02 PM

bravian: there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet.


well, you don't need a bag to carry it around.

I got a Blackberry Playbook for free at a conference, and while it's still a Playbook, the ability to carry it in an interior suit pocket or a cargo pocket on my pants is pretty damn handy. If I'm bringing my IPad 2 with me that means I'm bringing the computer bag.

Personally, I'd love a 7" iPad. Hell, if I was female, a 7" tablet is getting down to purse size.
 
2012-03-03 10:35:31 PM

bravian: [looks at article]

[sees DigiTimes]

[calls bullshiat]

Even if this was true - there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet. None. Zero. If Apple would think of releasing one - sell its stock now.


As someone reading this thread from a Kindle Fire, I am getting a kick out of your reply.
 
2012-03-03 10:39:06 PM

inkblot: Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?

iPad - 9.7 inch screen

new iPad - 7.2 inch screen

iPhone - 3.5 inch screen


So it's not as useful as either.
 
2012-03-03 10:40:45 PM
Meh. I'm holding out for the iPad Nano.
 
2012-03-03 10:41:22 PM
How the HELL can you people equate a 7.85 inch tablet with a 4.5 inch ipod? An iPod that does not fit in your pocket is NOT an iPod.
 
2012-03-03 10:50:17 PM

improvius: [media.tumblr.com image 500x313]


"Shut up and take my money!" - What an actual Apple worshiper would be likely to say. I laughed because it's true.

Oh yeah, and done in 2 for sure on this thread with the addition of your image.
 
2012-03-03 10:52:01 PM

Barakku: How the HELL can you people equate a 7.85 inch tablet with a 4.5 inch ipod? An iPod that does not fit in your pocket is NOT an iPod.


You sound concerned
 
2012-03-03 10:53:46 PM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-03-03 10:55:43 PM

bravian: Even if this was true - there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet. None. Zero.


Tell that to Amazon.
 
2012-03-03 10:56:58 PM

Lsherm: bravian: there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet.

well, you don't need a bag to carry it around.

I got a Blackberry Playbook for free at a conference, and while it's still a Playbook, the ability to carry it in an interior suit pocket or a cargo pocket on my pants is pretty damn handy. If I'm bringing my IPad 2 with me that means I'm bringing the computer bag.

Personally, I'd love a 7" iPad. Hell, if I was female, a 7" tablet is getting down to purse size.


i've got a nook color, which i find way easier to hold and carry around than the ipad i have...and never use. work gave it to me and i let the kids use it, but i find it uncomfortably large for most things.

the nook, a 7" tablet, is easier for me...but i still dont carry it around or really use it. i have a 4.3" phone and love the thing way more than a tablet...its huge for a phone, but very convenient.
 
2012-03-03 10:57:49 PM

Hollie Maea: inkblot: Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?

iPad - 9.7 inch screen

new iPad - 7.2 inch screen

iPhone - 3.5 inch screen

So it's not as useful as either.


What's a "full-featured" pad useful for anyway? The Kindle Fire is at the upper end of a completely portable device. The 9.7" iPad isn't any more portable than a notebook computer.
 
2012-03-03 10:58:21 PM
I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.
 
2012-03-03 11:00:00 PM

jackmalice: What's a "full-featured" pad useful for anyway? The Kindle Fire is at the upper end of a completely portable device. The 9.7" iPad isn't any more portable than a notebook computer.


That's kind of a strange statement. The iPad weighs very little, and will fit into anything ever designed to carry a book or paper. It's fairly portable if you ask me, even at 9.7"

There's a lot more to portability than just length times width.
 
2012-03-03 11:02:18 PM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


I thought it wasn't the size but how you use it.
 
2012-03-03 11:15:46 PM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


If 10" is too much, use more lube. If smaller than 5" doesn't satisfy, try two.
 
2012-03-03 11:16:49 PM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


This.
 
2012-03-03 11:19:46 PM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


Well, thickness matters too. Too thick and you'll start to ache after a while, but too thin and you can barely tell it's there.
 
2012-03-03 11:21:51 PM
Apple is not releasing a second line of iPads, any more than they're going to release a second line of iPhones with some difference in form factor. For their portable devices, Apple's model has been to differentiate their products by having the most absurdly simple product line with very few options. It's probably a big part of their sales, actually. Human beings tend to get overwhelmed when presented with too many choices; it makes them think and people hate thinking.

Anyway, each 7" tablet Apple sells is one less 11" tablet that they could have sold. Apple isn't going to cannibalize their own products.
 
2012-03-03 11:26:13 PM

t3knomanser: Apple is not releasing a second line of iPads, any more than they're going to release a second line of iPhones with some difference in form factor. For their portable devices, Apple's model has been to differentiate their products by having the most absurdly simple product line with very few options. It's probably a big part of their sales, actually. Human beings tend to get overwhelmed when presented with too many choices; it makes them think and people hate thinking.

Anyway, each 7" tablet Apple sells is one less 11" tablet that they could have sold. Apple isn't going to cannibalize their own products.


What you're describing is a marketing philosophy that left the company with Jobs and came back with him. Another guy is running the place now. We have to see what he's going to do before we predict Apple's actions now or it's not based on anything.
 
2012-03-03 11:27:41 PM
You can have any size iPad from Apple that you want, as long as it's a 10 inch model.
 
2012-03-03 11:35:11 PM

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: Another guy is running the place now.


Hand picked by Steve Jobs. When Jobs left the first time, he was forced out and the company immediately tried to do everything he refused to, and they basically died. When he returned, he brought them from the brink to being so profitable they've thrown off the S&P 500. I think that for the next generation of executives, at least, they're going to do things the Steve Jobs way. Also, anything being released in the next few years had to be on the road-map while Jobs was still around, even though his involvement was probably more limited.
 
2012-03-03 11:50:12 PM
So it's a Kindle Fire.
 
2012-03-04 12:08:13 AM
DamnYankees : So...an iPhone?

No, that's a micro.

/works for SD cards, micro, mini, regular.

/a television sized ipad would correspond to a Compact Flash card
 
2012-03-04 12:24:18 AM

LasersHurt: jackmalice: What's a "full-featured" pad useful for anyway? The Kindle Fire is at the upper end of a completely portable device. The 9.7" iPad isn't any more portable than a notebook computer.

That's kind of a strange statement. The iPad weighs very little, and will fit into anything ever designed to carry a book or paper. It's fairly portable if you ask me, even at 9.7"

There's a lot more to portability than just length times width.



I carry my 10" Asus Transformer tablet everywhere I go. It's pretty close to the same size and weight as an iPad. I use it at work, and I usually like to have it with me in general. After carrying it for close to a year now I can tell you that I would really like it to have been a slightly smaller tablet. 7" or so would have probably been perfect. It is portable, yes, but that's mainly a function of how useful it is to me. If I wasn't carrying a tablet I'd have been carrying a laptop.

I'd still be MUCH happier to be carrying around a 7" tablet instead. Far more easily portable. I've got an inside pocket on my winter jacket that I wear to work that a 7" tablet probably could have just fit into. My 10" tablet I have to have in my hand the entire time I'm walking around while working, and after a few hours a full sized tablet does get a little annoying.
 
2012-03-04 12:28:14 AM

t3knomanser: Anyway, each 7" tablet Apple sells is one less 11" tablet that they could have sold. Apple isn't going to cannibalize their own products.


that's what I said about the ipod touch (will canabalize iphone sales), and the original ipad (tween device -- too big to fit in pockets, not powerful enough to replace a laptop).

this is why i am not running apple.
 
2012-03-04 12:46:02 AM
And here is Zombie Jobs whining about the 7 inch tablet market

iDiot (new window)
 
2012-03-04 12:48:02 AM
the idea of a smaller iPad confounds some Apple observers, particularly when no one less than Steve Jobs dissed the idea..

Yeah, that what sucks about being dead. Suddenly your executive decisions don't hold a lot of weight.
 
2012-03-04 12:55:24 AM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


Nah, your mom says that too.
 
2012-03-04 01:16:37 AM

rustypouch: I can't be the only one who finds 7" just about right. 10" is too much, and smaller than 5" just doesn't satisfy.


I'm like you. I find the 7" perfect. At 5", the experience completely changes, it's more like using a phone than a tablet. But at 7", you have the functionality of a tablet, which is as consumption device. A 10" could possibly be better productivity-wise (bigger screen means more area to interact with), but people don't use tablets for productivity. At 7", you have a whole level of mobility that you didn't with a 10". At 7", it's like carrying a soft-cover book. I take it with me everywhere. I don't need a case to carry it, i hold it like i do a book. I toss it on my front seat like i would a book. Carry it to my desk like i do a book. Toss it ontop of the envelopes or kleenex box.

It just becomes a much more mobile device, almost the mobility of a smartphone, but the functionality of a tablet.
 
2012-03-04 02:31:11 AM

LasersHurt: That's kind of a strange statement. The iPad weighs very little, and will fit into anything ever designed to carry a book or paper. It's fairly portable if you ask me, even at 9.7"

There's a lot more to portability than just length times width.


I suppose, but if I have to carry a special carrying case for something, its really no more portable than a laptop. I'll give it battery life, of course. Weight means nothing, and if I'm carrying a case around, I'm carrying a case around, be it the soft briefcase I throw my laptop in or whatever specialized case people throw their ipads in.

Other than that I've got my smartphone.

I suppose there will always be an argument for what constitutes EXACTLY the right size, with a couple inches difference at the margin suiting one persons life a little better than something else, but then I still fall back to price and function and end up with my laptop/smartphone combo as the best.

If I had a purse, I could definitely see weight and size playing a much bigger role though.
 
2012-03-04 02:48:05 AM

bravian: Even if this was true - there is no value to a 7" general purpose tablet. None. Zero.


A 7" tablet with a 1280x800 (or better) IPS screen and a reasonably capable operating system would be a dream device in my opinion. That would be the approximate size and weight of an oversize paperback, but with enough pixels to manage decent PDF/CBR/web page viewing.

As an ipad2 owner, I feel it's overweight for its form factor and has a pretty underwhelming (low res; it's certainly bright enough) screen. I might feel differently if it shed 150 or 200 grams and I'd be willing to trade surface area for that.

I don't know what ipad owners do with their devices now. I don't feel that it offers a particularly compelling web, e-reader or media viewing experience compared to other devices I own. Hell, the current ipad hardware can't even manage stereo sound without the addition of external speakers of some sort.

Unfortunately, Apple's longstanding view seems to be that one size fits all, which is one of the reasons I've been so nonplussed about having an ipad and would appreciate an effort to move to a device of intermediate size.
 
2012-03-04 03:54:43 AM

Hollie Maea: DamnYankees: So...an iPhone?

Right, except you can't call people with it.

/Seriously though, how is this not an iPod touch?


Because it's gonna be called an ipad mini!!!!! TAKE MY MONEY NOW APPLE.
 
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