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2012-03-03 11:59:00 AM
In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids. The fluoride in the water and toothpaste isn't enough?
 
2012-03-03 01:09:30 PM
Walker: In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids. The fluoride in the water and toothpaste isn't enough?

Where I live we don't have a lot of fluoride in the water and kids toothpaste doesn't have it either, so the dentist slathers it on at the check-ups. I had no idea there were pills, and thought you weren't supposed to take it internally anyway.
 
2012-03-03 01:32:40 PM
Fluoride pills?
 
2012-03-03 01:35:22 PM
I thought this was going to be a story of a dentist getting busted for feeling up teenage girls who were under sedation. I'm so farking disappointed right now.
 
2012-03-03 01:36:36 PM
In before the "But but but flouride is toxic, it is an evil conspiracy pushed by some corporation with a hidden agenda, and it is more harmful than good" posts
 
2012-03-03 01:38:44 PM
Walker: In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids. The fluoride in the water and toothpaste isn't enough?

If you chew it up and spit it out, rinsing well, it should be fine and stay where needed. Also, these pills are probably low-dose just in case.
 
2012-03-03 01:38:53 PM
Wasn't there a study that showed a correlation between fluoride consumption and decreased IQ in children? And you want to prescribe them more fluoride?
 
2012-03-03 01:41:22 PM
The article I read-- said that none of the kids had actually taken any of the medicine-still confused about that.
 
2012-03-03 01:41:28 PM
Walker: In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids. The fluoride in the water and toothpaste isn't enough?

My entire school took them as kids- I think many of us had well water ( I did), and so the school gave us flouride.

I don't remember spiting out the pill, it was small and tasted sweet and you had to crush and chew it.

/rural central PA btw.
 
2012-03-03 01:48:29 PM
Grew up in an area where the well water was naturally fluoridated significantly above the proscribed limits. Going to be interesting to see if it did anything to me.
 
2012-03-03 01:54:19 PM
Walker: In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids.

That's bad.
 
2012-03-03 01:56:26 PM
Peekoo: Fluoride pills?

Goddamn commies.

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
 
2012-03-03 01:57:58 PM
Honest Bender: Wasn't there a study that showed a correlation between fluoride consumption and decreased IQ in children?

There's reams of scientific proof sodium fluoride is very bad for the brain. Even as a tooth cleaner it's questionable, because you'll get fluorosis, which rots your teeth.

It's something i don't even argue with people about anymore. I see it as an intelligence test, and i'm not helping them.

But i will share this, because it's something new i recently stumbled upon regarding the subject. Feel free to attack it and insult me, rest assured i take pleasure in the knowledge you're chugging sodium fluoride.
 
2012-03-03 02:02:28 PM
Rx pills have identifier letters and numbers on them.

If only there was a place with a series of tubes one could go to verify that the pills you are given by a pharmacist are the ones your doctor prescribed. Oh, wait...


/ Checks EVERY Rx given to make sure pill, capsule, etc. is what it's supposed to be.
// Also checks quantity. Pharmacists don't always count properly.
 
2012-03-03 02:05:30 PM
Conclusion: cancer meds don't do anything.
 
2012-03-03 02:07:43 PM
I work for CVS Caremark, so getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2012-03-03 02:10:58 PM
J. Frank Parnell: There's reams of scientific proof sodium fluoride is very bad for the brain. Even as a tooth cleaner it's questionable, because you'll get fluorosis, which rots your teeth.

And dihydrogen monoxide is just small amounts kills and it's found everywhere. There are tons of supporting studies.
 
2012-03-03 02:11:28 PM
Children with inexplicable desire to suck toothpaste, tube?
 
2012-03-03 02:13:07 PM
THC∂9 > H20
 
2012-03-03 02:14:35 PM
Horsebolt McStabledoor: I work for CVS Caremark, so getting a kick out of these replies...

I'm sorry. so did I. Once.

/fark that company.
 
2012-03-03 02:16:06 PM
J. Frank Parnell: Honest Bender: Wasn't there a study that showed a correlation between fluoride consumption and decreased IQ in children?

There's reams of scientific proof sodium fluoride is very bad for the brain. Even as a tooth cleaner it's questionable, because you'll get fluorosis, which rots your teeth.

It's something i don't even argue with people about anymore. I see it as an intelligence test, and i'm not helping them.

But i will share this, because it's something new i recently stumbled upon regarding the subject. Feel free to attack it and insult me, rest assured i take pleasure in the knowledge you're chugging sodium fluoride.


Fluoride is not used as a tooth cleaner, it is used to strengthen the enamel. The fluoride is incorporated into the tooth structure by changing the hydroxylapatite ion to a fluorapatite ion which is more resistant to decay and acid errosion.
 
2012-03-03 02:16:14 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

It's a communist conspiracy to destroy our precious bodily fluids.
 
2012-03-03 02:21:44 PM
Archimedes' Principal: Rx pills have identifier letters and numbers on them.

If only there was a place with a series of tubes one could go to verify that the pills you are given by a pharmacist are the ones your doctor prescribed. Oh, wait...


/ Checks EVERY Rx given to make sure pill, capsule, etc. is what it's supposed to be.
// Also checks quantity. Pharmacists don't always count properly.


At the non-CVS pharmacy where I work, the pharmacy tech who puts it in the bottle (who may or may not know how to count) has to scan the stock bottle when they fill the prescription. Even if it's the same medication but a different manufacturer (600mg gabpentin, but Teva instead of Mylan), the scale rejects the bottle. The pharmacist scans the prescription, and a window comes up with the drug description, manufacturer, and a clear-as-day photo of the tablet/capsule/etc. It looks like CVS could update their workflow process...

/the pamphlet with the prescription even has the shape, color, and description of it
 
2012-03-03 02:24:10 PM
J. Frank Parnell: Honest Bender: Wasn't there a study that showed a correlation between fluoride consumption and decreased IQ in children?

There's reams of scientific proof sodium fluoride is very bad for the brain. Even as a tooth cleaner it's questionable, because you'll get fluorosis, which rots your teeth.

It's something i don't even argue with people about anymore. I see it as an intelligence test, and i'm not helping them.

But i will share this, because it's something new i recently stumbled upon regarding the subject. Feel free to attack it and insult me, rest assured i take pleasure in the knowledge you're chugging sodium fluoride.


For those who have genetically great enamel, great, buck the man, it won't really make a difference anyway. A simple scraping with baking soda or even water will probably fix you up and your dentist will thumbzup you for another year... as long as you don't tell him you won't use chemically treated toothpaste.

For the majority who have shiatty enamel, like me, there's pretty much no choice. The option is give up anything with simple or less-complex carbs - including beer, wine, and most liquors - or make do with fluoride. There's a lot of evidence that fluoride as a paste has enormous benefits to most people, and some benefits to most people in the water supply. There's a lot of evidence that there's a lot of dentists, parents, and policy-makers aggressively pushing the stance that it can do no harm and that one size fits all, and while every tap fluoridation comes with the caveat that kids under 5 shouldn't drink the water, I've never met a parent who was informed of that in a fluoridated area. (Where I live, the county is fluoridated and the city itself is un-, so I meet quite a few. I also meet idiots in my city who post fliers drumming up outrage over the city's non-existent fluoridation.)

My history includes controls - there were years when I'd brush maybe once a month, as a youngster, and cavities always shot way up. (I've had a lot of dental work done.) When I'd brush regularly, no such problem, but much of the damage has already been done. Call me when they can regrow teeth in a lab, or right in your mouth, and we'll revisit the need for fluoride.
 
2012-03-03 02:26:35 PM
You shurr got a purty mouth...

www.shrani.si
 
2012-03-03 02:29:29 PM
Also, I've lived with 10-of-10 tooth pain for weeks at a time, and I would rather die of a neurological disorder than an infected nerve, given the choice. Fortunately, my family has a history of mild mental illness but zero history of dementia, so I should be OK there.
 
2012-03-03 02:34:45 PM
katrina_666: Fluoride is not used as a tooth cleaner, it is used to strengthen the enamel. The fluoride is incorporated into the tooth structure by changing the hydroxylapatite ion to a fluorapatite ion which is more resistant to decay and acid errosion.

That doesn't really jive with dental fluorosis. Even at levels below what's considered 'safe' by the EPA, peoples teeth are being destroyed by it.

There's warnings on toothpaste saying not to ingest it. All the science is done, and it's an established fact that sodium fluoride is bad for us, but the dumbest and most gullible of our species are always the last to know.
 
2012-03-03 02:41:49 PM
J. Frank Parnell: katrina_666: Fluoride is not used as a tooth cleaner, it is used to strengthen the enamel. The fluoride is incorporated into the tooth structure by changing the hydroxylapatite ion to a fluorapatite ion which is more resistant to decay and acid errosion.

That doesn't really jive with dental fluorosis. Even at levels below what's considered 'safe' by the EPA, peoples teeth are being destroyed by it.

There's warnings on toothpaste saying not to ingest it. All the science is done, and it's an established fact that sodium fluoride is bad for us, but the dumbest and most gullible of our species are always the last to know.


Dental fluorosis is caused by an overabundance of fluoride. Anything can be a poison it just depends on the dosage. Toothpaste has a warning because of the amount of fluoride it contains.
 
2012-03-03 02:45:14 PM
J. Frank Parnell: All the science is done, and it's an established fact that sodium fluoride is bad for us, but the dumbest and most gullible of our species are always the last to know.

As opposed to those who irrationally focus on a substance is minute quantity that in this case has a better outcome than not having any all the while ingesting other "things that are bad for us" at exponentially larger quantities.

Extra point for alcohol or tobacco use.
 
2012-03-03 02:58:06 PM
J. Frank Parnell: There's warnings on toothpaste saying not to ingest it. All the science is done, and it's an established fact that sodium fluoride is bad for us, but the dumbest and most gullible of our species are always the last to know.

Only the dumbest and most gullible will think this is profound.

/big farking DUH.
 
2012-03-03 03:33:00 PM
Walker: In other news there are fluoride pills being prescribed for kids. The fluoride in the water and toothpaste isn't enough?

Toothpaste says call poison control if swallowed.

Doesn't fluoride work only when applied to the tooth?

Last time I knew fluoride pills were on the market,
was when they were used to kill peoples overactive thyroids...
they stopped because it caused undesirable cancers afterwards in some victims.

As a hypothyroid, I am not allowed near any type of fluoride.

If i were an evil mastermind, I would make all the people hypothyroid,
so they can't think straight.

...and that's what it looks like to me.
 
2012-03-03 03:57:04 PM
Wait, wait: last week Tamoxifen was in desperately short supply.

Prices were skyrocketing, the FDA was investigating, and cancer patients were being triaged for the drug.

And these clowns have enough that they can accidentally mistake it for fluoride pills ?
 
2012-03-03 04:13:26 PM
Is this a clever way of admitting to feeling someone's daughter's breasts?
 
2012-03-03 04:55:39 PM
Honest Bender: Wasn't there a study that showed a correlation between fluoride consumption and decreased IQ in children? And you want to prescribe them more fluoride?


A stupid population is a happy population.
 
2012-03-03 04:56:26 PM
Horsebolt McStabledoor: I work for CVS Caremark, so getting a kick out of these replies...

Then tell them to hire some better people! Honestly, I keep running into data entry/wrong account sorts of errors. It's enough to convince me they're either outsourcing to someone who's doing a crappy job or their internal processes just suck.

Of course, the answer could be that they've fired everyone who knew what they were doing, in an effort to "maximize shareholder value"...
 
2012-03-03 06:02:46 PM
Seeing if this thread is still alive, I have a question for any farkers who have had braces recently enough to remember them...

I got mine three weeks ago and while eating some solid foods is tolerable (soft chicken, soft breads i.e. sandwiches, etc etc) is it normal for my teeth to still be sore/hurt while eating? They don't eat when I'm not chewing anything. I see shiat online mentioning discomfort for days afterward... but it's been three weeks.
 
2012-03-03 06:05:01 PM
they don't HURT when I'm not chewing anything...
 
2012-03-03 06:57:36 PM
Tamoxifluoride: the new wonder drug for senility in pharmacists.
 
2012-03-03 07:25:08 PM
Still not clear how my kid's teeth could have breast cancer in the first place. But I'm glad they don't.
 
2012-03-03 07:51:14 PM
Farty McPooPants: Still not clear how my kid's teeth could have breast cancer in the first place. But I'm glad they don't.

Technically, once metastasis occurs, any type of cancer can grow anywhere in your body. Which is why cancer is so awful.
 
2012-03-03 08:36:12 PM
WienerButt: Seeing if this thread is still alive, I have a question for any farkers who have had braces recently enough to remember them...

I got mine three weeks ago and while eating some solid foods is tolerable (soft chicken, soft breads i.e. sandwiches, etc etc) is it normal for my teeth to still be sore/hurt while eating? They don't eat when I'm not chewing anything. I see shiat online mentioning discomfort for days afterward... but it's been three weeks.


Three weeks, good heavens no. Three days certainly. Three weeks? How do you eat?

I'm just guessing that you need 'spacers'. When I had mine, they had a false start, and I had to come back again later for a second try, after the spacers did their thing spreading the teeth out a bit more.
 
2012-03-03 08:43:22 PM
ka1axy: Of course, the answer could be that they've fired everyone who knew what they were doing, in an effort to "maximize shareholder value"...

They offered me a 3% pay increase. I showed the guy their current cash available which had risen by $1.5 billion in the past year. I told him to go f*ck himself and found a job that paid 40% more.
 
2012-03-03 09:17:17 PM
NewportBarGuy: ka1axy: Of course, the answer could be that they've fired everyone who knew what they were doing, in an effort to "maximize shareholder value"...

They offered me a 3% pay increase. I showed the guy their current cash available which had risen by $1.5 billion in the past year. I told him to go f*ck himself and found a job that paid 40% more.


Sadly, I kinda figured that was the case. I have noticed over the years that the folks behind the prescription counter in the local CVS:
1. change (too) frequently
2. have decreased in number
3. look very rushed and hassled
 
2012-03-04 12:05:56 AM
Archimedes' Principal:

If only there was a place with a series of tubes one could go to verify that the pills you are given by a pharmacist are the ones your doctor prescribed. Oh, wait...


/ Checks EVERY Rx given to make sure pill, capsule, etc. is what it's supposed to be.
// Also checks quantity. Pharmacists don't always count properly.



This.

Seriously, how hard is it to take 3.2 seconds to review the description of the med on the enclosed pamphlet and pop open to the bottle to verify that the description perfectly describes the contents inside the bottle?

\literacy for the win
 
2012-03-04 12:11:14 AM
WienerButt: Seeing if this thread is still alive, I have a question for any farkers who have had braces recently enough to remember them...

I got mine three weeks ago and while eating some solid foods is tolerable (soft chicken, soft breads i.e. sandwiches, etc etc) is it normal for my teeth to still be sore/hurt while eating? They don't eat when I'm not chewing anything. I see shiat online mentioning discomfort for days afterward... but it's been three weeks.


Yes, it's normal.

I had braces for 3.5 years. Yup, your teeth will hurt, especially right after an "adjustment." Way back in the day (1990s), we got adjustments once a month. And for a full week following an adjustment, my mouth would hurt like hell.
 
2012-03-05 04:25:01 PM
WienerButt: Seeing if this thread is still alive, I have a question for any farkers who have had braces recently enough to remember them...

I got mine three weeks ago and while eating some solid foods is tolerable (soft chicken, soft breads i.e. sandwiches, etc etc) is it normal for my teeth to still be sore/hurt while eating? They don't eat when I'm not chewing anything. I see shiat online mentioning discomfort for days afterward... but it's been three weeks.


I got my braces removed in December after two years. My teeth hurt for two years solid. They hurt all the time. After adjustments, I had difficulty sleeping sometimes. I guess that's what happens when you get braces at 29 and your teeth are comfortable where they're at.

The worst pain is the first three months or so. After that it started to settle to a manageable level, and I could eat most things, even corn on the cob and steak.

Despite the pain, I am immensely pleased. I'd do it again. I love having movie star teeth.
 
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