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(CBC)   Toronto Maple Leafs fire head coach Ron Wilson. GM Brian "Truculence" Burke digs deep in the shallow pool of Anaheim Ducks cast-offs to name Randy Carlyle as his replacement   (cbc.ca) divider line 48
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2012-03-03 07:42:11 AM  
is Ballard available?
 
2012-03-03 08:51:40 AM  
Am I the only one who has noticed that when things go well for the Leafs it is because of Burke's genius but when things go bad it it because of Ron Wilson?
 
2012-03-03 08:58:15 AM  
Good luck with all that, Leafs.
 
2012-03-03 09:13:58 AM  
Anybody know what Teddy Nolan is doing these days?
 
2012-03-03 09:20:53 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: Anybody know what Teddy Nolan is doing these days?


Bunch of the lads at beer league last night were wondering the same thing. Apparently (citation needed) Nolan has been blackballed from the NHL for something...... But what?

\1967
\\once more before I'm gone would be nice
 
2012-03-03 09:32:22 AM  
...and none of them are Mike Babcock.
 
2012-03-03 09:37:20 AM  
How does this solve their goaltending problems and their porous defence? Well, this should appease the true blue fans, until the next loss.

Apparently Nick Beverley and Tom Watt were unavailable.
 
2012-03-03 09:49:30 AM  
I'm glad to see this. The Burke/Carlyle combo brought the Ducks the Cup back in '07. They also turned a laughingstock soft as a marshmallow team into one of the hardest hitting grittier teams in the league (nobody played like that at the time & the Ducks just steamrolled everyone that year. Thankfully the rest of the league took note & good physical hockey is returning). Granted they had incredible assets to work with, but the team at the top had to make it work.

Now Toronto winning the Cup anytime soon is not likely to happen. I wouldn't be too surprised though if they actually managed to make the playoffs next year....
 
2012-03-03 09:56:07 AM  

cnocnanrionnag: Apparently (citation needed) Nolan has been blackballed from the NHL for something...... But what?


He's always been a bit of a loose cannon, not shy about how he feels that race has played a factor in how he's been treated, and has managed to get a few GMs fired along the way.

But he is an awesome coach that always found a way to make chicken soup from chicken shiat. He deserves a better fate than to be coaching the Latvian national team.
 
2012-03-03 10:33:47 AM  
i40.tinypic.com

/snert
 
2012-03-03 11:26:07 AM  
Surprised it took Carlyle this lng to land somewhere. As for Wilson, the writing had been on the wall a long time. Conventional wisdom was that his latest contract extension wasn't about job security, it was about Burke doing his friend a solid and giving him some financial security well past the point he'd be fired.
 
2012-03-03 11:29:59 AM  

Recoil Therapy: I'm glad to see this. The Burke/Carlyle combo brought the Ducks the Cup back in '07. They also turned a laughingstock soft as a marshmallow team into one of the hardest hitting grittier teams in the league (nobody played like that at the time & the Ducks just steamrolled everyone that year. Thankfully the rest of the league took note & good physical hockey is returning). Granted they had incredible assets to work with, but the team at the top had to make it work.

Now Toronto winning the Cup anytime soon is not likely to happen. I wouldn't be too surprised though if they actually managed to make the playoffs next year....


It's not like Anaheim invented/brought back some new style of play in 2007. Ottawa and Anaheim had very similar games that year; both teams steamrolled their conference with a very effective forecheck and physical play. Anaheim out-muscled Ottawa because they were better at it; their forecheck wore down Ottawa's defensemen and made them less aggressive, and the Ducks defensemen/defensive forwards made life hell for Ottawa's top line. They got beat (quite thoroughly) at their own game.

Now, I have a lot of respect for Carlyle as a coach, but he will not have two future Hall of Famers on his blueline, nor will he have anyone up front with the skill set of Sellane, Getzlaf or Perry. I suspect it will just be more of the same kind of performance as Wilson produced. Wilson may be a sarcastic arse-biscuit, but Carlyle is a mean son-of-a-biatch. I see no reason to believe that Toronto has been struggling for lack of a coach who would tell the players how much they suck.
 
2012-03-03 11:30:44 AM  
I was really unsure about the possibility of Carlyle, especially with his history with Lupal, but nearly the first thing out his mouth at the press conference this morning was that he had been wrong about Lupal.
Classy move. Let's see what he can do.
 
2012-03-03 11:32:43 AM  

unyon: He deserves a better fate than to be coaching the Latvian national team.



Hey now...

/Latvian
 
2012-03-03 11:45:39 AM  

fatalvenom: unyon: He deserves a better fate than to be coaching the Latvian national team.


Hey now...

/Latvian


Not intended to be a slight against Latvians, but still fair to say that Latvia ain't exactly a hockey powerhouse. BTW- my entire family of 8 bought Latvian jerseys and were de-facto Latvians for the World Junior Championships around New Years here in Calgary.

I think we were giving them better coaching from the stands than they were getting from the bench, though.

/iesim Latvija!
 
2012-03-03 11:47:49 AM  

unyon: Not intended to be a slight against Latvians, but still fair to say that Latvia ain't exactly a hockey powerhouse. BTW- my entire family of 8 bought Latvian jerseys and were de-facto Latvians for the World Junior Championships around New Years here in Calgary.

I think we were giving them better coaching from the stands than they were getting from the bench, though.

/iesim Latvija!



Sweet.

Yeah, Latvia isn't exactly Sweden or anything, that's for sure.
 
2012-03-03 11:51:55 AM  

unyon: Not intended to be a slight against Latvians, but still fair to say that Latvia ain't exactly a hockey powerhouse.


That's relative. Sure, they're not one of the Big 7 (if that's still applicable), but they're in the top 12. That may seem low, considering so few countries have a national team that is anything more than a handful of enthusiasts, but by that measurement alone Latvia is doing pretty good. They're established. And compared to Vietnam, a powerhouse.
 
2012-03-03 12:23:20 PM  
Worst kept secret in hockey for the past two months.
 
2012-03-03 12:33:03 PM  
That's the spirit! Wilson was too soft. Carlyle will abuse, humiliate and swear his new team to the Cup (especially if they're young)! You just watch!
 
2012-03-03 12:35:50 PM  

Primus: That's the spirit! Wilson was too soft. Carlyle will abuse, humiliate and swear his new team to the Cup (especially if they're young)! You just watch!


hehe
All about the ratings for 24-7 next year?!?
 
2012-03-03 12:55:19 PM  

sno man: Primus: That's the spirit! Wilson was too soft. Carlyle will abuse, humiliate and swear his new team to the Cup (especially if they're young)! You just watch!

hehe
All about the ratings for 24-7 next year?!?


I never even thought about that! Thanks, I'm off to write a letter to HBO!
 
2012-03-03 01:00:02 PM  

swahnhennessy: unyon: Not intended to be a slight against Latvians, but still fair to say that Latvia ain't exactly a hockey powerhouse.

That's relative. Sure, they're not one of the Big 7 (if that's still applicable), but they're in the top 12. That may seem low, considering so few countries have a national team that is anything more than a handful of enthusiasts, but by that measurement alone Latvia is doing pretty good. They're established. And compared to Vietnam, a powerhouse.


Sure they are. But let's not go dragging non-hockey playing countries into the equation. Latvia at least has ice, which is a prerequisite.

They're currently ranked 12th or 13th worldwide, having slid there over the last half decade or so- considering that they've typically been somewhere in the 8-9-10 ranking, they're not doing particularly well, even by Latvian standards.
 
2012-03-03 01:08:52 PM  
Something's not right here. Pierre LeBrun even put them up a notch in this weeks power rankings, so they were obviously improving. I will investigate further.
 
2012-03-03 01:12:16 PM  
Toronto now has Anaheim's coach, GM and goalie coach, and they had the goalie last year. Now all they need to do is trade Lupul for Pronger and they'll be all set.
 
2012-03-03 01:46:44 PM  
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-03-03 01:53:53 PM  
Was at the Ottawa/Chicago game last night and they announced it on the big screen. Crowd cheered louder than they did when Emery's Ottawa stats were put up to honour him.

Ah well, guess we will see how the Toronto Maple Ducks fair in the future.
 
2012-03-03 02:06:20 PM  

DenisBergkamp: Ah well, guess we will see how the Toronto Maple Ducks fair in the future.


When the Leafs went out and got Buffalo cast-offs Clarke MacArthur and Tim Connolly, I thought they were trying to build the Toronto Former-Sabres.
 
2012-03-03 02:22:31 PM  
*sigh*

Well, *I* wanted Dallas Eakins.

Mantour: [images.cheezburger.com image 492x482]


Uh, those two players aren't playing for the Leafs.
 
2012-03-03 02:36:57 PM  

Doran: Well, *I* wanted Dallas Eakins.


Makes two of us. Eakins is a fine coach who has done very well with the Marlies.
 
2012-03-03 02:53:07 PM  

unyon: Sure they are. But let's not go dragging non-hockey playing countries into the equation. Latvia at least has ice, which is a prerequisite.


I should have used UAE or New Zealand as an example.
 
2012-03-03 02:59:50 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Doran: Well, *I* wanted Dallas Eakins.

Makes two of us. Eakins is a fine coach who has done very well with the Marlies.


Count me as three, but I didn't want him called up before the end of the year, let him have his AHL playoff first.
 
2012-03-03 03:09:06 PM  

Mantour: [images.cheezburger.com image 492x482]


I'm pretty sure those guys are New York Rangers... probably between 1937 and 1941
 
2012-03-03 03:28:07 PM  

sno man: GavinTheAlmighty: Doran: Well, *I* wanted Dallas Eakins.

Makes two of us. Eakins is a fine coach who has done very well with the Marlies.

Count me as three, but I didn't want him called up before the end of the year, let him have his AHL playoff first.


Fourthed. Eakins has been outstanding with the Marlies, frankly I'm shocked he didn't get poached earlier this year.
 
2012-03-03 03:34:38 PM  

sno man: I'm pretty sure those guys are New York Rangers... probably between 1937 and 1941


Hal Brown and Alan Kuntz of the feared Brown Kuntz line.
 
2012-03-03 03:45:29 PM  

Recoil Therapy: I'm glad to see this. The Burke/Carlyle combo brought the Ducks the Cup back in '07. They also turned a laughingstock soft as a marshmallow team into one of the hardest hitting grittier teams in the league (nobody played like that at the time & the Ducks just steamrolled everyone that year. Thankfully the rest of the league took note & good physical hockey is returning). Granted they had incredible assets to work with, but the team at the top had to make it work.

Now Toronto winning the Cup anytime soon is not likely to happen. I wouldn't be too surprised though if they actually managed to make the playoffs next year....


Wasn't that mainly with a team that Bryan Murray created?
 
2012-03-03 03:53:38 PM  

swahnhennessy: Hal Brown and Alan Kuntz


k...
Having actually looked it up now. if it's those two guys and it sure looks like it is, it can only be from the 1945-46 season.
 
2012-03-03 04:11:55 PM  

kmfjd: Recoil Therapy: I'm glad to see this. The Burke/Carlyle combo brought the Ducks the Cup back in '07. They also turned a laughingstock soft as a marshmallow team into one of the hardest hitting grittier teams in the league (nobody played like that at the time & the Ducks just steamrolled everyone that year. Thankfully the rest of the league took note & good physical hockey is returning). Granted they had incredible assets to work with, but the team at the top had to make it work.

Now Toronto winning the Cup anytime soon is not likely to happen. I wouldn't be too surprised though if they actually managed to make the playoffs next year....

Wasn't that mainly with a team that Bryan Murray created?


Yes and no. Guys like Perry and Getzlaf were Murrays, but Burke brought in Pronger, Neidermeyer and Beauchemin to solidify the blue line. IMO neither one gets full credit.
 
2012-03-03 05:05:17 PM  

DenisBergkamp: Ah well, guess we will see how the Toronto Maple Ducks fair in the future.


Mmmm....maple duck....
 
2012-03-03 05:57:17 PM  
Might be looking up for the Leafs, but they will never go anywhere with the fraud Phaneuf as their supposed captain.

You know there's a problem when even your fellow players think you're the most overrated played in the league.
 
2012-03-03 08:05:10 PM  
Wow Don is fired up tonight.
 
2012-03-03 08:30:47 PM  

DenisBergkamp: Wow Don is fired up tonight.


I think he's pissed he doesn't have Wilson to biatch about.
 
2012-03-03 10:23:31 PM  
LOLongo!
 
2012-03-03 10:32:20 PM  
Here's to you Columbus, for poppin' that 20 win cherry. It's ok, some teams are just late bloomers.
 
2012-03-04 12:48:29 AM  

Tryfan: Might be looking up for the Leafs, but they will never go anywhere with the fraud Phaneuf as their supposed captain.

You know there's a problem when even your fellow players think you're the most overrated played in the league.


Really? You're bringing up that up? Really?
 
2012-03-04 01:46:56 AM  

AKTurkey: Here's to you Columbus, for poppin' that 20 win cherry. It's ok, some teams are just late bloomers.


It wouldn't have happened if the damn calendar didn't have to change months!

/Yotes were pathetic tonight.
 
2012-03-04 04:36:52 PM  

swahnhennessy: Surprised it took Carlyle this lng to land somewhere. As for Wilson, the writing had been on the wall a long time. Conventional wisdom was that his latest contract extension wasn't about job security, it was about Burke doing his friend a solid and giving him some financial security well past the point he'd be fired.


I KNEW that extension would end up being bullshiat. Wilson even said he deserved some 'danger pay'.

fark him.
 
2012-03-05 11:42:35 AM  
As a Torontonian and a Leaf fan I am fine with Wilson being terminated. But not happy because Burke needs to go as well. He didn't improve defence or the team's goaltending. Bringing the Duck's former staff and/or players to Toronto is a weak move. They were successful many years ago. There is no guarantee that Carlyle or any other former Duck's employee will help Toronto win the cup.
If Burke doesn't improve the team in the off-season then he MUST be fired.
 
2012-03-05 01:48:50 PM  
Was Mike Keenan not available?
 
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