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(Haaretz)   "Netanyahu is expected to publicly harden his line against Iran during a meeting with Barack Obama." ( •_•)⌐■-■ Well, that might stiffen into into a.... (⌐■_■) sticky situation   (haaretz.com) divider line 443
    More: Interesting, obama, Iran, Thomas E. Donilon, Shimon Peres, Martin Dempsey, AIPAC, Vice President Joe Biden, national security adviser  
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2012-03-02 08:39:50 PM
Haven't seen the Horatio ASCII before.. heh
 
2012-03-02 08:45:36 PM
You forgot the YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
 
2012-03-02 08:56:44 PM

crypticsatellite: You forgot the YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH


This. -2 points.
 
2012-03-02 09:01:14 PM
Once upon a time, another US President expressed his extreme displeasure at the idea of nuclear weapons being developed in the Middle East, demanding inspections and assurances that no such weapons would be built.

images.travelpod.com

Unfortunately, his efforts were not successful.
 
2012-03-02 09:06:17 PM
i.imgur.com
Click Me
 
2012-03-02 09:11:44 PM
impressive headline.
 
2012-03-02 09:20:21 PM
I still think an Israeli attack on Iran is unlikely because the risk/reward doesn't seem to balance out.

I don't have access to the latest satellite and other forms of intelligence on the Iranian nuke program, but I find it hard to believe that the parts that would set the Iranian weapons program back for years are out in the open and easily targeted by aircraft. Too much time has passed in the life of the program and Iran has probably done a lot to protect the program from a flight of bombers coming over one night.

So why attack with planes with conventional bombs? Why stir up that hornet's nest for potentially very little gain or accomplishing your real goal? I don't think the Israeli leadership cares about sending symbolic messages on this issue. I know the US doesn't. So it leaves me wondering what they are really going to be talking about in this meeting. I don't think it is a one night bombing run. I think it is something else altogether.
 
2012-03-02 09:40:41 PM
I like the headline.
 
2012-03-02 09:42:32 PM
HOTY candidate?
 
2012-03-02 09:47:43 PM
Oh subby, ( •_•)⌐■-■ I see...(⌐■_■) what you did there.

crypticsatellite: YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

 
2012-03-02 09:52:59 PM

crypticsatellite: You forgot the YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH


Just for this headline, they need to make the comment count read (YEAHHHHH)
 
2012-03-02 11:07:11 PM
I want this to be greenlit just for the ASCII.
 
2012-03-02 11:29:06 PM
Allow me to +1 ...
 
2012-03-02 11:31:32 PM
Downvote for the lack of YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
 
2012-03-02 11:45:41 PM

GAT_00: Downvote for the lack of YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH


They can fix that in post-processing with some CGI and lens flare if this goes green...
 
2012-03-03 12:26:40 AM
If you enhance the horribly blurry, almost unusable footage of the headline, the pixels magically become a crystal clear image that says "YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
 
2012-03-03 12:49:29 AM

Party Boy: [i.imgur.com image 391x207]
Click Me


I don't know what I was expecting, but that made me laugh.
 
2012-03-03 12:55:17 AM

MeinRS6: I still think an Israeli attack on Iran is unlikely because the risk/reward doesn't seem to balance out.

I don't have access to the latest satellite and other forms of intelligence on the Iranian nuke program, but I find it hard to believe that the parts that would set the Iranian weapons program back for years are out in the open and easily targeted by aircraft. Too much time has passed in the life of the program and Iran has probably done a lot to protect the program from a flight of bombers coming over one night.

So why attack with planes with conventional bombs? Why stir up that hornet's nest for potentially very little gain or accomplishing your real goal? I don't think the Israeli leadership cares about sending symbolic messages on this issue. I know the US doesn't. So it leaves me wondering what they are really going to be talking about in this meeting. I don't think it is a one night bombing run. I think it is something else altogether.


I have not agreed with anything of yours I have read; except maybe this. What else could be the motivation for an Israeli attack on Iran if not to cripple or severely hamper Irans nuclear ambitions? Distraction? Expense? I tend to think Israel's motivation isnt so obvious as reported.
 
2012-03-03 01:01:33 AM
What I like is how Netenyahu is 'demanding' Obama take a firm stand. Now, I know the USA has lost some stature from its heyday, but how does that ugly short little man demand anything?
 
2012-03-03 01:04:22 AM
southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com

Approves
 
2012-03-03 01:13:16 AM
With the depth of the program, I think Israel will be asking for meaningful help from the US military. Maybe in the form of hundreds of cruise missiles and maybe dozens of B-2 strikes.

This pic is from google, so take it for what it is, but imagine all of the stuff that doesn't make it to google images.
i.imgur.com

It makes almost no sense to me for Israel to fly a bunch of F-15s or other assets over Iran in an attempt to change things. They simply cannot put enough ordinance on target in the time they would have to make any real difference. And what they can accomplish with teams on the ground is limited and highly dangerous.

Maybe I'm all wrong and the Iranians have left everything meaningful in the program out in the open like total fools. Maybe they haven't built in redundancy of any sort because they figured no one would really come at them. But again, that strikes me as unlikely.
 
2012-03-03 01:45:42 AM

FirstNationalBastard: If you enhance the horribly blurry, almost unusable footage of the headline, the pixels magically become a crystal clear image that says "YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"


Enhance.
Enhance.
Enhance.
Enhance.
 
2012-03-03 01:55:09 AM
Impressive subby.
 
2012-03-03 01:59:12 AM
remember the last time the arab countries attacked israel?

and they still complain about they lines that were drawn then.
 
2012-03-03 01:59:18 AM
In B4 DreidelMeinTats.
 
2012-03-03 02:00:13 AM

MeinRS6: I still think an Israeli attack on Iran is unlikely because the risk/reward doesn't seem to balance out.

I don't have access to the latest satellite and other forms of intelligence on the Iranian nuke program, but I find it hard to believe that the parts that would set the Iranian weapons program back for years are out in the open and easily targeted by aircraft. Too much time has passed in the life of the program and Iran has probably done a lot to protect the program from a flight of bombers coming over one night.

So why attack with planes with conventional bombs? Why stir up that hornet's nest for potentially very little gain or accomplishing your real goal? I don't think the Israeli leadership cares about sending symbolic messages on this issue. I know the US doesn't. So it leaves me wondering what they are really going to be talking about in this meeting. I don't think it is a one night bombing run. I think it is something else altogether.


Hm. Must be Sabbath in Israel.
 
2012-03-03 02:01:43 AM
A +3 headline: 1 for content, 2 for technical proficiency. Truly inspired.
 
2012-03-03 02:02:07 AM

Fista-Phobia: In B4 DreidelMeinTats.


www.dack.com
 
2012-03-03 02:04:12 AM
+1 for inconspicuous usage of the word "stiffen"
 
2012-03-03 02:04:57 AM

MadSkillz: What I like is how Netenyahu is 'demanding' Obama take a firm stand. Now, I know the USA has lost some stature from its heyday, but how does that ugly short little man demand anything?


I think Netenyahu is going to be disappointed. He met with Harper today and Harper's public statement afterward was that Canada hopes to see a peaceful resolution to the Iran situation but recognizes Israel's right to defend itself. That position is considerably softer than anything the Canadian government has said in the past few months, so I have to assume that Harper was told that if Canada went all in it would be without US backup. Link (new window)
 
2012-03-03 02:06:35 AM
The ASCII Horatio is excellent. This must be continued. A+++++++ headline, would read again
 
2012-03-03 02:06:53 AM
Impressive headline, subby. I've never seen a Horatio Caine in ASCII form.
 
2012-03-03 02:08:00 AM

elvisaintdead: Oh subby, ( •_•)⌐■-■ I see...(⌐■_■) what you did there.
crypticsatellite: YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH


I have to clip this to Evernote.

File under odd emoticons.

/:€ Jamie

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Table flip
 
2012-03-03 02:10:52 AM

Fista-Phobia: I'm an idiot. I like to pretend things and I lie all the time.


Yes. That is all very true.
 
2012-03-03 02:14:09 AM
Fight your own goddamn war.
 
2012-03-03 02:16:23 AM
Subby? That made me laugh.
DNRTFA... just wanted to say thank you.


/i guffawed.
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2012-03-03 02:16:25 AM
I doubt the US would support this, even covertly. It would only let the mullahs play the persecution card.
 
2012-03-03 02:16:47 AM
The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades?
 
2012-03-03 02:16:51 AM
If we're going down this road, can Israel just nuke Natanz, please? We can all stop living a lie and get down to the global thermopocalypse that all the conservative religious nuts want to jerk off to.

It'll be like The Day After or Threads up in this biatch.
 
2012-03-03 02:17:52 AM

MeinRS6: I don't have access to the latest satellite and other forms of intelligence on the Iranian nuke program


Tragedy.
 
2012-03-03 02:19:56 AM

MeinRS6: Fista-Phobia: I'm an idiot. I like to pretend things and I lie all the time.

Yes. That is all very true.


Oh, Tats. You so silly!
 
2012-03-03 02:21:04 AM
Israel can not, Can Not significantly delay Iran's nuclear program with air power. They just don't have the capability. What we're witnessing now is bluster designed to bring Iran to the negotiating table, nothing more.

Iran's facilities are buried too deep and Israel doesn't have nearly enough aircraft. It would take the U.S. military weeks, WEEKS to put a serious dent in Iran's program. Unlike Israel, we have airbases just a handful of miles from Iran and carriers wherever we want them.

The air power Israel could bring to bear on Iran is probably less than 5% of the power the US could bring to bear, and it would take the U.S. WEEKS of constant bombing to dent Iran's nuclear ambitions. Israel wouldn't have weeks. Israel would have to fly over Islamic nations in order to hit Iran, and even if those Islamic nations quietly condoned the initial attack, their populace would start tearing down the palace walls if that nation's leader allowed Israeli overflights for more than a day or two.

Israel does have nukes, but were Israel were to nuke Iran, I doubt it would slow down Iran's nuclear program more than a year. If Iran were nuked, nearly ever nation on the planet would suspend all trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. Israel's economy would crumble and Iran's mountain covered facilities would probably survive. Iran would then invest everything - e v e r y t h i n g in building a bomb, then delivering it.

Then there's Israel's population. They are wholly AGAINST an attack on Iran unless the US supports it. Since an attack would send oil prices to 10 or 20 dollars per gallon or higher, guess what, Obama doesn't support it.

Bebe may be a nut case, but he wants to stay in power. Threatening the "special relationship" with the US is the third-rail of Israeli politics. If Bebe goes it alone, not only will he utterly fail at delaying an Iranian bomb, he'll probably end up signing his own walking papers. He's a politician, he's not going to do it. Continued terror attacks against Iranian scientists? Yes. Air campaign? no.
 
2012-03-03 02:29:36 AM
Here's where Obama tells Israel to deal with it.
 
2012-03-03 02:32:42 AM

generallyso: Fight your own goddamn war.


You'd be the guy running away if a couple of guys jumped your buddy at the bar, wouldn't you?
 
2012-03-03 02:32:59 AM

dudemanbro: Here's where Obama tells Israel to deal with it.


+1 Funny
 
2012-03-03 02:36:39 AM

generallyso: Fight your own goddamn war.


QFT.

For a country unwilling to sign the NPT, and unwilling to admit that they even have nuclear weapons, never mind let anyone inspect them, Israel is damned concerned about a country that has signed the NPT, played along with the IAEA, and have largely been given a clean bill. One could almost suspect that Israel is hoping to use Iran's old troubles with the IAEA as a pretext to lure the United States into a shooting war with Iran.

If Israel is that worried about Iran, then let Israel take overt action - enough of this "blowing up civilians" shiat. Declare war, start the campaign, and may the toughest country win. We've just gone through a decade of unnecessary war in the Middle East, and I think we'd all be happier if we didn't send more of our folks in harm's way because of manufactured pretext.

Besides, if Iran bombs Israel with a nuclear weapon, then we'd have our pretext. If Israel bombs Iran with a nuclear weapon, well, we'd have a pretext there, too. Blowing up Israel because they thought a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran was a bright idea would add a hilarious edge of irony to the whole debacle.
 
2012-03-03 02:37:07 AM

9beers: generallyso: Fight your own goddamn war.

You'd be the guy running away if a couple of guys jumped your buddy at the bar, wouldn't you?


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-03-03 02:37:39 AM

MeinRS6: So why attack with planes with conventional bombs? Why stir up that hornet's nest for potentially very little gain or accomplishing your real goal? I don't think the Israeli leadership cares about sending symbolic messages on this issue. I know the US doesn't. So it leaves me wondering what they are really going to be talking about in this meeting. I don't think it is a one night bombing run. I think it is something else altogether.


They're not going to talk about anything. It's just show.

Bebe has to come here to convince the Israeli populace that he hasn't destroyed Israel's "Special Relationship" with the US. US Presidents have to meet the Israeli PM every so often. If Obama and Bebe say three words to each other, I'll be surprised.

Bebe is bluffing, he knows Israel can't stop Iran's nuclear program, he'd like to goad Obama into doing it, but Bebe's completely farked that up.

Bebe's has burned his bridges so thoroughly with Obama that he's lucky the prez will even meet him. Bebe has broken one of the very big rules of multi-national diplomacy, he's gotten directly involved in the domestic politics of another nation. Bebe is so intrenched with US republicans that he's really hurt his nation's influence on the US government.

Bebe's coming over here in order to keep his job, Obama will show up for the photo op, then probably spurn Bebe in some way that won't be publicly obvious, but will put Bebe in his place - the doghouse.
 
2012-03-03 02:41:19 AM

9beers: generallyso: Fight your own goddamn war.

You'd be the guy running away if a couple of guys jumped your buddy at the bar, wouldn't you?


If my "buddy" was an asshole that kept poking the biggest guys in the bar, and then screaming "you can't touch me, because that guy over there will kick your ass!", well, "running away" wouldn't be necessary. I'd hand the asshole over to those guys and say, "I'm sick of his shiat and I just came in here for a drink - have fun."

That's not a "buddy." That's just an asshole using you.
 
2012-03-03 02:43:12 AM
fark Benjamin Netanyahu. fark him right in the ass with a bear dick.
 
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