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(NFL)   You know how your contract negotiations aren't going well? When you break a 25-year passing record and the GM says you're "very good" not "great"   (nfl.com) divider line 242
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2012-03-02 01:41:01 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]


Yes, go to Minnesota...where veteran QBs go to die. Great plan.
 
2012-03-02 01:41:55 PM  

Di Atribe: Dr.Knockboots: He's a stud passer in a VERY pass-fiendly league these days...he's not great.

OK so what would make him great?


Being on the cover of Frosted Flakes.
 
2012-03-02 01:44:55 PM  

JohnnyBravo: If Brees doesn't deserve top money? Who the f*ck does? He done everything expected of an elite QB and more.


Yeah, in any other year in NFL history, he's the NFL MVP last year.
 
2012-03-02 01:45:16 PM  

mikaloyd: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

Aww HELL NO


One down, one to go.
 
2012-03-02 01:45:36 PM  

Di Atribe: Dr.Knockboots: He's a stud passer in a VERY pass-fiendly league these days...he's not great.

OK so what would make him great?


Being Dan Marino!
 
2012-03-02 01:47:55 PM  
Well, I can't blame Loomis, he must've suffered from prolonged exposure to the week long coverage that pissed all over Drew getting said record.

In all seriousness, though, did Mickey specifically correct the person's calling Drew "great" to "well, he's very good," or is this media nonsense where Mickey used "very good" in responding and they're exploding for no reason? I'd like to see a transcript or a video of this comment, something like that.

They'll sign Brees and franchise Nicks.

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: and has been consistantly "very-good" (if not great) statistically for the past 5 years or so


Since 2006, he's been the top QB in the league in all major statistical categories. It's not like they report that very often, so I can't blame you.
 
2012-03-02 01:51:12 PM  

lennavan: So slap the franchise tag on him and be done with it. Enough with the B.S.


They want to franchise Nicks. It is likely the only way to keep both players.
 
2012-03-02 01:55:30 PM  

Incog_Neeto: If the Saints don't want him we'll take him, just saying

/9ers fan
// I'm sure we aren't the only team that would


....yeah. Gotta agree with you there. As much as I was excited to see Alex Smith turn into an actual quarterback and leader this year, there's still a problem with consistency and conversions. Most of the success from 2011 came from the Niner's defense holding down the opponents and giving Alex and the offense a couple hundred chances to score every game.

1 for 13 on 3rd downs in the championship game and we *still* almost won it? Imagine what would have happened with the @50% rate Brees put up last year.
 
2012-03-02 01:55:50 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]


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2012-03-02 02:00:38 PM  

VvonderJesus: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

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Manning "1"?
 
2012-03-02 02:01:35 PM  

VvonderJesus: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

[lp.imageg.net image 500x500]


At least give Peyton his father's old #8 jersey in your fantasy world. It's what the Saints would do if he were ever on the roster.
 
2012-03-02 02:04:51 PM  

VvonderJesus: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

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lmao

The giggling... I can't stop the giggling
 
2012-03-02 02:13:20 PM  

Treygreen13: VvonderJesus: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

[lp.imageg.net image 500x500]

Manning "1"?


You questiong the number or the joke?
 
2012-03-02 02:17:58 PM  

Amurica...Fark Ya!: Boiler the f(ck up!

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Oh, sure! Just 'cos Curtis Painter went there...
 
2012-03-02 02:19:28 PM  
Hey if this somehow causes a rift that leads to him under performing this coming season and maybe leaving the team after that then so be it.

/Falcon fan
 
2012-03-02 02:29:04 PM  

fatalvenom: Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

/no really, he is a nice guy. WTF?


My sister-in-law has a story about Drew Brees being a real dick while trying to make her give him free games on the midway at Busch Gardens in Tampa after he played in the Outback Bowl. She refuses to acknowledge all other signs that he is a decent human being.
 
2012-03-02 02:36:03 PM  
He's too short.
 
2012-03-02 02:40:46 PM  
I hope Brees gets his $23 million because either Nicks or Colston would look great on the 49ers.
 
2012-03-02 02:53:51 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Treygreen13: VvonderJesus: Jim from Saint Paul: [i14.photobucket.com image 500x500]

[lp.imageg.net image 500x500]

Manning "1"?

You questiong the number or the joke?


The #
 
2012-03-02 03:04:41 PM  

SkylineRecords: Screw that. Your city flooded, and your star QB of the former "Ain'ts", won the Super Bowl the same year, and has been greatly consistent over the past 5 seasons. Give the man what he wants, or your fans will start wearing paper bags on their heads again.


Um, your timeline might be a bit off there sparky. That's how it will play out in some nostalgic screenplay 30 years from now though, so maybe your just a time traveler, in which case, rock on man!
 
2012-03-02 03:07:26 PM  
Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?
 
2012-03-02 03:09:49 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?


What?!
 
2012-03-02 03:10:02 PM  
As a Giants fan I can honestly say the only team I feared in this years playoffs were the Saints. Drew Brees absolutely kills the Giants. He is the only QB they have no answer for. Thank God the 49'ers offense came alive in the last 3 minutes of that playoff game and thank God for the awful Saints defense. When the 49'ers won I celebrated as if the Giants had won. Anyone who thinks Drew Brees is only "pretty good" has no idea what they are talking about
 
2012-03-02 03:11:52 PM  

Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!


Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)
 
2012-03-02 03:12:41 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)


dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.
 
2012-03-02 03:14:00 PM  

Di Atribe: Dr.Knockboots: He's a stud passer in a VERY pass-fiendly league these days...he's not great.

OK so what would make him great?


Doing it for years.
 
2012-03-02 03:14:53 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.


Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them
 
2012-03-02 03:17:03 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them


Well that's certainly... interesting.

So much for all that goodwill the Saints had developed over the past few years. If it's true... wow. Big story.
 
2012-03-02 03:17:36 PM  
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2012-03-02 03:19:40 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them


Yikes...yeah, someone's gonna be meeting with the commish soon. Especially if this was indeed funded by the players as the article is suggesting...all this emphasis on safety, I could easily see those involved getting big fines, suspensions. Heck, guys like Harrison get fined for hits that occur during the game..no premeditation, pooling of funds, etc. That shiat is just dirty.
 
2012-03-02 03:19:43 PM  
Bounty on star players to injure them?

images.cbssports.com

YA THINK?!
 
2012-03-02 03:24:11 PM  

Treygreen13: So much for all that goodwill the Saints had developed over the past few years. If it's true... wow. Big story.


Yes. Suddenly Brees making outrageous demands kind of makes sense. One year under the franchise tag, then he hits the after burners out of there while the franchise is burned to the ground by the league.

/well not burned to the ground, but hit hard
 
2012-03-02 03:24:32 PM  
Directly from ESPN headlines:

Between 22 and 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints, as well as at least one assistant coach, maintained a "bounty" program funded primarily by players in violation of NFL rules during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the NFL announced Friday.

The investigation by the league's security department determined that an improper "pay for performance" program included "bounty" payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game.

The findings, corroborated by multiple independent sources, have been presented to commissioner Roger Goodell, who will determine the appropriate discipline.

"It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated," Goodell said.

"We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it."


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7638603/new-orleans-saints-defense- h ad-bounty-program-nfl-says
 
2012-03-02 03:26:13 PM  
I have an idea. Lets pay a QB such an insane amount of money (that he's demanding) so that we break all of our cap space, and are thus unable to keep any of the talent around him, thus making him mediocre at best for the foreseeable future until draft picks mature and flourish. And by then, Brees will be old enough to retire.

Or, since he's already cleared 100 million lifetime, and since he's a white guy, won't blow it all on bling and an entourage....he could just be happy with say, oh...10-15 mil a year instead of 18-20? Pfft, I know, I know...he's got a family to feed.

And this from someone 2800 miles away. The Saints ain't the Yankees...there is a cap for a reason. And Brees can cripple it with 1 contract.

But hey, at least he's a great guy, in it for the team, etc. etc., blah blah...I smell bullshiat.
 
2012-03-02 03:26:36 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them


Heck...Look at Favre during that Championship game against the Saints...LOTS of late hits, lots of low hits. Even back then I remember thinking "man, if I didn't know better I'd say they were trying to take him out". sure enough..they very likely were.



link 1 (new window)

link 2 (new window)

"What I hate to see are late hits or attempts to hurt anybody. I don't think there's a place for that in the game." (new window)

/fwiw, Favre never complained, he said "it's football". his coach complained
 
2012-03-02 03:28:48 PM  
Meanwhile......

Here in Tampa Bay Josh "Jesus I am so lost out here" Freeman asks the coach "What color uniform do I throw to ?? "

2-14 with the first overall pick in 2013.... somebody had to say it.
 
2012-03-02 03:34:10 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them

Heck...Look at Favre during that Championship game against the Saints...LOTS of late hits, lots of low hits. Even back then I remember thinking "man, if I didn't know better I'd say they were trying to take him out". sure enough..they very likely were.



link 1 (new window)

link 2 (new window)

"What I hate to see are late hits or attempts to hurt anybody. I don't think there's a place for that in the game." (new window)

/fwiw, Favre never complained, he said "it's football". his coach complained


You have more links. I have better speed.

Jim from Saint Paul: Bounty on star players to injure them?

[images.cbssports.com image 275x435]

YA THINK?!

 
2012-03-02 03:36:40 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them

Heck...Look at Favre during that Championship game against the Saints...LOTS of late hits, lots of low hits. Even back then I remember thinking "man, if I didn't know better I'd say they were trying to take him out". sure enough..they very likely were.



link 1 (new window)

link 2 (new window)

"What I hate to see are late hits or attempts to hurt anybody. I don't think there's a place for that in the game." (new window)

/fwiw, Favre never complained, he said "it's football". his coach complained


Hard to have much sympathy for the Vikings after they put on that late-hit extravaganza in the previous game.
 
2012-03-02 03:38:26 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Bounty on star players to injure them?

[images.cbssports.com image 275x435]

YA THINK?!


As a non-Vikings fan, I echo this statement. The Saints went to that game with the intention of hurting Favre and winning through late hits. They succeeded, but it was still dirty as hell. I wonder how hard they get hit with fines/draft pick loss.
 
2012-03-02 03:40:09 PM  

H31N0US: Directly from ESPN headlines:

Between 22 and 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints, as well as at least one assistant coach, maintained a "bounty" program funded primarily by players in violation of NFL rules during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the NFL announced Friday.

The investigation by the league's security department determined that an improper "pay for performance" program included "bounty" payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game.

The findings, corroborated by multiple independent sources, have been presented to commissioner Roger Goodell, who will determine the appropriate discipline.

"It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated," Goodell said.

"We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7638603/new-orleans-saints-defense- h ad-bounty-program-nfl-says


That's pretty disappointing to think about. As a Vikings fan, I harbored some "deliberate late hits" feelings, but you never really want it confirmed.
 
2012-03-02 03:41:08 PM  

Treygreen13: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: ihatedumbpeople: Lost Thought 00: Treygreen13: Lost Thought 00: Why would he want to play for a team that's about to have all their draft picks stripped and their entire defense suspended?

What?!

Adam Schefter just broke a story about the NFL discovering a long-term bounty program aimed at deliberately injuring opposing players, including star QBs, that Gregg Williams ran down in NO. Goodell is still reviewing punishment, but it expected to be "very severe".

I just took that and ran with it :)

dude...i totally thought you were FoS until I saw the headline on NFL Network...holy hell.

Sean Payton and Loomis both apparently had direct knowledge and made no effort to stop the program either. So you can expect Goodell to go apeshiat on them

Heck...Look at Favre during that Championship game against the Saints...LOTS of late hits, lots of low hits. Even back then I remember thinking "man, if I didn't know better I'd say they were trying to take him out". sure enough..they very likely were.



link 1 (new window)

link 2 (new window)

"What I hate to see are late hits or attempts to hurt anybody. I don't think there's a place for that in the game." (new window)

/fwiw, Favre never complained, he said "it's football". his coach complained

Hard to have much sympathy for the Vikings after they put on that late-hit extravaganza in the previous game.


I don't remember hearing this from a Cowboy fan before.

Any place I can see some of these hits?
 
2012-03-02 03:44:18 PM  
I submitted an espn link to this story.

To Total Farkers; which headline is mine should be blatenetly obvious.
 
2012-03-02 03:51:03 PM  
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Damn, the 'skins are still awful

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2012-03-02 03:53:49 PM  
The timing of all of this effectively turns it into a giant middle finger from Gregg Williams on his way out of town, to boot. Lovely.
 
2012-03-02 03:56:14 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I don't remember hearing this from a Cowboy fan before.

Any place I can see some of these hits?


There really isn't a lot of video of that game I can find. The late hits weren't something that were really a factor in the final score, and things got well out of hand when the Cows LT went down in the 2nd. Tony had zero time. They were a terrifying pass rush, but they were still doing the "knock him down every chance you get" thing.

Was just further proof that a strong pass rush is critical. It was probably the Cowboys best year but if you get to the QB there's not much you can do.
 
2012-03-02 03:57:25 PM  
I go out for my daily walk and I come back to this? What the shiat?
 
2012-03-02 03:59:50 PM  

robsul82: I go out for my daily walk and I come back to this? What the shiat?


This is me REALLY hoping my obviously biased headline gets greened in the sports tab.
 
2012-03-02 04:01:09 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: robsul82: I go out for my daily walk and I come back to this? What the shiat?

This is me REALLY hoping my obviously biased headline gets greened in the sports tab.


An asterisk? Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.

In other news, it's apparently steamingpile Christmas today, lol.
 
2012-03-02 04:02:15 PM  

Misplaced yat: The timing of all of this effectively turns it into a giant middle finger from Gregg Williams on his way out of town, to boot. Lovely.


Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.
 
2012-03-02 04:05:17 PM  
Just turned on ESPN, looking at the sidebar ticker...NOW I see what it takes for the Saints to get a little media coverage, lol.
 
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